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  1. OpinionDuck profile image60
    OpinionDuckposted 6 years ago

    Something to think about before you try to make sense of this subject
    What do we really know about Heaven?

    ...Where is it?

    .....Who or what is there?

    .........What will I do if I get there?

    ............Will I remember my earthly life?

    ..................What will I look like as a spirit?

    ........................Will I continue as myself or as another entity?

    1. Beelzedad profile image61
      Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      It's all just felder garb. smile

    2. kess profile image60
      kessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      All your questions have answers, except if you expect them to be defined by the things you see, feel, smell, hear etc you would always go astray because you would then be limiting their reality.



      Heaven is a place not limited to by specific location cause it is every where and even nowhere.

      Heaven is that place which contain every imaginable thing.

      You would have to do absolutely nothing to get there, cause you are already there but have not yet realized it.

      There would be no need to remember anything in heaven cause all things are already with you.

      As a Spirit you can look exactly as you desire to be.

      You need not change your identity, instead you would just be absolutely sure of your present Identity.


      This is the unlimited nature of Heaven, one need just to realize it. And when this realization comes you can then say the kingdom of heaven  is come oln earth and it's in you and with you.

      All one need is truth and when Truth comes you would realize that you were already engulf in it within and without.

      1. OpinionDuck profile image60
        OpinionDuckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Sorry, but these aren't the answers to the questions.

        These answers don't have any connection to anything here.

        There are many people here that don't have to do anything.
        If you can imagine it then it isn't heaven.
        People on earth morn their dead, but there is no need as there is no connection to them in Heaven according to your answer.
        As a spirit you would be nothing.

        This is as vague and ambiguous as Genesis.

        In any case thanks for your answers.

        1. kess profile image60
          kessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          No fuss... there are those who would understand even  without so many worlds.....

          1. OpinionDuck profile image60
            OpinionDuckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            You are right about that, but I am not one of them.

            Thanks again,

            1. couturepopcafe profile image61
              couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Disregarding the word 'heaven', as it tends to have a religious connotation, the concept is akin to the old saying, "Who feels it knows it."  This is the nature of being.  Kess answers all the questions.  Where - within you, here.  What - anything you can imagine.  Who is there - anyone you can imagine.  Remembering - spirit remembers all that it desires to remember.  Spirit - purity, the absence of affliction as manifested in ignorance, egoism, attachment, aversion, and the desire to cling to life. 

              The cause of the avoidable (affliction) is the superimposition of the external world onto the unseen world.  Spirit is pure consciousness.  But though it is pure, it sees through the mind and is identified by ego as being only in the mind.  The very existence of the seen is for the sake of the seer.  It is for the distinct recognition of the objective world as well as for the recognition of the distinct nature of the seer.  The seer must dissassociate from the seen.  This is known as discrimination.  It is a means of obtaining spiritual liberation.

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        Home Girlposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What truth?

        1. kess profile image60
          kessposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Truth is known by the knower alone...

          and Truth is the only proof of itself

    3. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Enough to know that the word "Heaven" is a metaphor Jesus used in his parable teachings.
      Earth.
      Presently, 6.6 Billion humans.
      This is irrelevant, because your actions are always your actions.
      This can only be answered with conjecture based on myth. Once your dead, have complete loss of consciousness, you're done.
      Another question that can only be answered with conjecture based on myth. There is no proof a spirit or soul actually exists. "Spirit" and "Soul" should only be used when describing someone's actions. Nothing more.
      Another question for conjecture based on myth. Complete loss of consciousness means there is no awareness of existence. To say consciousness is elevated to a higher realm after death is conjecture, unproven myth.

    4. OpinionDuck profile image60
      OpinionDuckposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I read generalization and thoughts but I don't see any answers to these questions.

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      paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Your questions are irrelevant to the true concept of heaven and hell.

      Heaven is to achieve the purpose of life set for the human beings by the Creator-God; and hell is not to achieve it.

      Please correct your concept.

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        Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Read a Bible.
        It will tell you all that we're given to know about this.

        1. couturepopcafe profile image61
          couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Brenda - Actually, with respect, the way I understand the teachings, we are to attain all, everything, even the knowledge which is God, the center, the eye.  The metaphor 'heaven' is the convergence of all knowledge separated from desire, purity of mind, the knowledge of why and how of existence confirmed in non-possessiveness, santification and the removal of impurities, communion with Lord in the form most admired.

      2. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        The first several questions posed have one answer: LOOK AROUND. The last question has a surprise answer. If you would like to read that answer, email me. Peace smile

        1. pennyofheaven profile image81
          pennyofheavenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Very nice!

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago

      If heaven is everywhere why bother to be good? Go and kill and rob everybody you meet?  or even better - don't do anything, just live in a cardboad under the bridge and wait for heavenly manna! http://serve.mysmiley.net/angel/angel09.gif

      1. Druid Dude profile image60
        Druid Dudeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Then what could have been the purpose? You have missed a vital clue.

    7. profile image68
      paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

      Heaven is to achieve the purpose of life set for the human beings by the Creator-God; and hell is not to achieve it.

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago

      Are you saying that by personal conviction or God just told you that?

    9. profile image68
      paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

      It is mentioned in Quran.

      You may get it even from the first chapter of Quran consisting of seven short verses.

      1. Greek One profile image77
        Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        what verse lists the part about the multiple virgins we get?

        1. Hotplate profile image59
          Hotplateposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I think that part was left out of my copy, because I've searched long and hard for that one.

          1. Greek One profile image77
            Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            i thought i found it once.. but it turns out picked up a copy of Penthouse letters instead

            1. brotheryochanan profile image60
              brotheryochananposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              that's quran.

              according to the bible we become like the angels and are not given in marriage.. that doesn't mean we just don't marry. When talking about flesh, male and female that part doesn't exist. We have no need of a single partner. We have no need of public toilets; as we are in spiritual bodies we neither eat nor sleep nor procreate nor function as our fleshly bodies did.

              1. Greek One profile image77
                Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                so the reward for getting to Heaven is losing my penis???

                I'm a Christian, but that's really going to hurt our marketing plan and sales pitch when going up Islam's virgin incentive

            2. pisean282311 profile image59
              pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              @greekone lol

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago

      Thanks, but I prefer science books now.

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        paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You mentioned of God; and God is not a subject of science; science deals only in things physical and the Creator-God is only attributive.

        Nevermind

        1. pisean282311 profile image59
          pisean282311posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          every subject comes under jurisdiction of science ...

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago

      That God is not subject of science I strongly suspected.

    12. AEvans profile image71
      AEvansposted 6 years ago

      Read the book "Embraced by the light". It will clearly explain it. When mom passed this past August I actually felt and seen her spirit move from her body. Heaven is a beautiful place I have had the opportunity to see it myself. I can't explain it but I know it is there. "Embraced by the light" reassured me that what my experience that happened when I was young was a blessing to see. smile

      FYI: mom's spirit was clear I can't explain it, but if you get a bottle of bubbles and look through them it will look like your spirit which is clear.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image61
        couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Awesome.

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago

      That's why so many people like beer and champagne - a lot of spirit in it. Well, I always knew that spiritual life is not for me. I'll stick to my carrot juice.

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      logic,commonsenseposted 6 years ago

      I'm with you Greek!
      If there are no hummers in heaven, I'm not sure I wanna go.  Talkin about the truck! smile

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago

      I think I should apologize for my comment before AEvans. To lose one's parent is a tragedy. And joking there was a bad taste. I wasn't thinking, sorry.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image61
        couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Awesome.

    16. profile image68
      paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

      Heaven is to achieve the purpose of life set for the human beings by the Creator-God; and hell is not to achieve it.

    17. melpor profile image90
      melporposted 6 years ago

      I think we need to ask ourselves these questions:

      If there is a Heaven, if you die at 90 are you going to be a 90 year old man there?

      Are you going to live forever without aging or are you going to remain a 90 year old man or do you revert to your younger self?

      Heaven must be a place full of people from the last 250,000 years?

      Will we know our family or will our memories be erased?

      If there is Heaven why has anyone come back to tell about it?

      If there is a Heaven with eternal life why would you want to live for ever, life will get pretty boring eventually would you think so?

      If there is a Heaven you would see your entire family tree if Heaven is what people believe it is. Think about?

      If there is a Heaven how would you get there? Your body is in the ground decomposing and your consciousness ceased to exist after you die. You only have consciousness when you are alive.

      I can go on and on with this. I am coming to the conclusion Heaven is just a  mythical place started by cultures thousands of years ago because people tried to explain what happen to them once they die.

      1. pennyofheaven profile image81
        pennyofheavenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Why do we have to ask all those questions when now is all we have to work with?

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      paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

      Heaven is to achieve the purpose of life set for the human beings by the Creator-God; and hell is not to achieve it.

      [89:28] And thou, O soul at peace!
      [89:29] Return to thy Lord well pleased with Him and He well pleased with thee.
      [89:30] So enter thou among My chosen servants,
      [89:31] And enter thou My Garden*.

      http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/sh … p;verse=28
      * Heaven

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      Home Girlposted 6 years ago

      Some people never learn...http://www.easyfreesmileys.com/smileys/free-sad-smileys-471.gif

     
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