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Christmas is not about Santa Claus

  1. ViralWhisper profile image57
    ViralWhisperposted 6 years ago

    As adults, we have an obligation to start teaching our children the very essence and real spirit of Christmas. I know that as a kid, most of us were conditioned to believe that Christmas is all about Santa Claus and material gifts. It is the birth of Jesus Christ that must be truly remembered and celebrated on Christmas day and by no means it don't need to be overshadowed by Santa Claus or any material gifts in this world. Let us not forget to remind ourselves and our children that Santa Claus is just only a symbol for Christmas and it is indeed Jesus Christ (and all the great things He has done for mankind) who is the true central figure of what Christmas is all about.

    1. Dave Mathews profile image60
      Dave Mathewsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I understand what you are saying and I believe that Christmas is not about Santa Claus,  But Christmas is about Giving, the kind of selfless giving God did and does for everyone of His children.

      1. ViralWhisper profile image57
        ViralWhisperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        You're right on target DM. May God bless you for your wisdom.

      2. pennyofheaven profile image79
        pennyofheavenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yes indeed I do agree!

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Or it could be about the Winter Solstice. lol

          1. pennyofheaven profile image79
            pennyofheavenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Yes that will work for me too!

            1. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Of course it does!

    2. MonaVieAileen profile image39
      MonaVieAileenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I totally agree with you and I, myself don't want to teach my children about Santa Claus and It bothers me when other people talk to my children about it,.. so I kindly ask them not to do it,..especially family members...They disagree with me and say that I'm taking my children's dreams away by not instructing them to believe in santa claus... I am a Christian... no denomination so I'm very passionate about this issue.

      1. Flightkeeper profile image72
        Flightkeeperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Mona, I can understand your concern about not letting secular symbols such as Santa Claus muddle up the importance of Christmas and the story of the Nativity to your children.  However, you have a lot of influence in teaching them about the meaning of Christmas and teach your children that the birth of Christ is the reason for Christmas and how His birth has influenced many, such as Santa Claus to celebrate by expressing generosity and good will.

        I know that there are some churches who really frown on the Santa Claus figure.  In fact one of my friends had a pastor, who when he was little used to caution the kids by saying that the name Santa if you reconfigured the letters turns out to be "Satan" and scared the kids.  We laughed over it now.  But I think it's a shame for a child not to be part of the Santa Claus spirit, it teaches the children good virtues such as kindness, good will to fellow men, etc.  A reinforcement of what His birth means to Christians.

        1. couturepopcafe profile image61
          couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Teaching children to give, especially if they make something, is a noble enterprise.

    3. profile image0
      Jake Gene Barnesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Christmas:

      The word Christmas originated as a compound meaning "Christ's Mass". It is derived from the Middle English Christemasse and Old English Cristes masse, a phrase first recorded in 1038. "Cristes" is from Greek Christos and "masse" is from Latin missa (the holy mass).

      The date of December 25th is not known to be the actual birthday of Jesus however, it is likely that it was chosen because it was the winter solstice on the ancient Roman calender, and the date of several various winter festivals

      1. pennyofheaven profile image79
        pennyofheavenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yes. Apparently he was born 11 September 3 BC. I read a very compelling hub this afternoon. Made sense to me.

      2. renegadetory profile image93
        renegadetoryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        It's nice to see that other people out there know that Jesus' date of birth is not mentioned in the Bible and was most likely in the fall.  Also, the 3 wise men did not visit baby Jesus in the manger.  He was already a bit older and living in a house with Mary and Joseph...

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      C.J. Wrightposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Santa Clause is WATCHING YOU!

    5. reb4822 profile image55
      reb4822posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I agree whith what you say about Santa Clause,Jesus is what it is all about. We should be giveing to Jesus,not each other gifts. The Wise Men gave to Jesus gifts not each other,so the gift should be the life Jesus saved on the Cross,and this is all who believe him to be the Son of God. We should give of ourselfs,but not just at this time of year to our Lord and Saviour but every day that we are blissed with.

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      Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Christmas has nothing to do with Y`shua --even though they use Him as the "insert birthday savior here" and get all woohoo, warm and fuzzy.

      A host of pagan rituals have been indoctrinated by christians --also a pagan title, including most of the Hanukkah festivity ingredients. Now, millions of good religious folk celebrate a single birthday as the biggest pagan day ever, next to "easter".

      Just look in any church or behind any pulpit and tell me if you don't see a christmas tree -symbolic of a Terebinth tree, a poisonous flower arrangement, holly wreath, mistletoe -a sexual stimulant like catnip, etc etc.

      Then grandiose via lavish gift giving and sentimental moments... It is also the highest suicide, heart attack ratio day of the calendar year.

  2. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    For some it is.

  3. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

    And for some it isn't.

    (I love Santa, and presents).

  4. Daniel Carter profile image91
    Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago

    I guess most Christians believe Jesus wants them to go into debt for Christmas or they wouldn't be doing it...at least that's my thought.

    I think the truth is we love Christmas because it's a spectacle of music, gifts, love, and sharing. We naturally want to go all out for it. The problem is getting carried away with all the "things" that don't really matter much.

    Whether you believe in Jesus or not, most people love Christmas because it's a time of giving and love. If you focus on that, you should be able to retain a bit of sanity.

    1. ViralWhisper profile image57
      ViralWhisperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You have absolutely a great point DC regarding giving and love as pertains to Christmas.

      1. couturepopcafe profile image61
        couturepopcafeposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I think it's very interesting that even many people who don't believe in Jesus as the Christ and who don't really get involved at Christmas find themselves depressed at Christmas time.  It's inexplicable.  They feel something sad so there must be something to all this love and giving.  As a collective consciousness, to bad it only happens once a year.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Love and giving? Oh - you mean spending? Perhaps educating yourself might help - you can start by looking into vitamin D production.

          There must be something to all this spending and going into debt? Of course there is. lol

          1. Greek One profile image77
            Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            what are you getting me for Christmas, Mark?

            1. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Still waiting on the $15, so nothing until that is cleared up. wink

              1. Greek One profile image77
                Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                I know the Euro is going through some tough times right now.... but I had no idea that inflation on your side of the pond is increasing 10 percent a day

                1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                  Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  When I get the $18, we can talk. big_smile

                  1. Greek One profile image77
                    Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    If I had $18, i wouldn't need your help!

  5. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    I don't go crazy with spending money at Christmas. For me it is just a time to concentrate on peaceful things. And the Santa tradition is a nice one for kids, as long as you also show them the joy of giving.

    1. Nick Malizia profile image59
      Nick Maliziaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Sounds good. Peace and relaxation are better than one hundred anxiety-inducing toys.

  6. Nick Malizia profile image59
    Nick Maliziaposted 6 years ago

    I think it's more about teaching children the value of family, sharing (humanity), and getting SOME good food, gifts, and entertainment (not to the point of excessive greed and gluttony, just enough to keep us warm through the coldest season.)

    As an adult, Santa does seem like an embodiment of excess and over-corporatization. A child doesn't see it in the same way (hopefully), to them Santa is something like an angel spirit and in many families is associated with the mother and father who plays his role.

    I think there are many progressive ideas in Christianity as there are in similar beliefs like Buddhism, but I don't think anyone should tell another what/how to worship unless they are physically harming someone. Just as I think it's petty and cruel to attack Christians on this holiday, I defend the rights of other beliefs.

    Whatever your background, I wish you all a great holiday. Keep your family strong and close.

    1. ViralWhisper profile image57
      ViralWhisperposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I  believe that Christmas is open to anybody whether one believes in it or not. I also don't judge anyone based on their religious practices and beliefs. Judgement will come only from God whether one has a God or not.

      1. Mark Knowles profile image60
        Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        No - you have judged. That is what you are all about. Judging. lol

        1. Greek One profile image77
          Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I think Mark is going to Hell and I'm not afraid of saying it..

          I based that not on my Christian beliefs, but on karma's vicious and ever present vengeance.  To date he has refused to mentor me in the ways of SEO, and as such I am stuck in a state of poverty

          1. Nick Malizia profile image59
            Nick Maliziaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            That was hilarious!

          2. Mark Knowles profile image60
            Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            I am still waiting for the $12 you owe me. Then we can begin. wink

            1. Greek One profile image77
              Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I thought you were going to set up some links to some of my Hubs from some of you websites in a gesture of Heathen / Faithful fellowship??

              1. Mark Knowles profile image60
                Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                $13 now. sad

      2. Nick Malizia profile image59
        Nick Maliziaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Agreed

        1. Mark Knowles profile image60
          Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          lol Christmas is about Judgment. lol

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            exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            it is judging when you say
            "You are judging"

            1. Cagsil profile image60
              Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Mark is assessing the observed action. Actions can be judged. wink

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                exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                it is one thing to observe something that may be wrong, and another to start talking about it, some Christians do judge just like others but you can not judge all by the actions of some, that is wrong, All non-believers do not worship satan, but some do, so is it ok to judge all non-believers as satan worshipers?

            2. Mark Knowles profile image60
              Mark Knowlesposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Did I say that? lol Coal or present? No Judgment here. lol

          2. Castlepaloma profile image24
            Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Greek
            I think Mark is going to Hell and I'm not afraid of saying it...

            You’re only proving Mark’s point about judging

            Mark Knowles 
            Christmas is about Judgment.

            Judgment is only part of Christmas since my Mother is an atheist too.
            Wait a few year until judgment Day comes, then you can  tell them, “I told you so” , like many other times before.  Then they will ignore you Mark and they will go on their merry way

            1. Greek One profile image77
              Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I never said Mark didnt have valid points..  just that he is a very, very bad man

              1. Castlepaloma profile image24
                Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                If you can't tame Mark, how will you tame Satan?

                Mark is like Dinosaur bones, here to test your faith.

              2. frogdropping profile image84
                frogdroppingposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Greek I can see your point. Never was a Yoda type so woefully under-serving of his aspiring young (you are kinda young right?) apprentice as MK. I warrant you'd be making hundreds, maybe thousands of $$$s had he taken you calmly under his wing. *sighs*

                All that lost revenue. Are you going to take him to task about all that he owes you? I mean ... it's going to be his fault when you have a Bob Cratchett Christmas. No Santa Clause. Timmy to the workhouse.

                Sheesh hmm

                1. Greek One profile image77
                  Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I can;t be mad at Mark.. he was named after a disciple, after all...

                  but his failure to impart his wisdom onto me is just further proof that non-believers such as Mark simply do not have the same compassionate qualities of giving and sharing that we of faith do.

                  .. and Castle, I seek not to tame Mark or Satan... but will gladly use and SEO tips either would like to impart.

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image24
                    Castlepalomaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    There is Beauty in any beast or in Satan.  I personally have compassionate for both opposite ends of the poles, its all nature.

                    The best thing about Christmas is the get together of friends and family no matter how delusional they may be, in fact what family is functional these days? Serve up the piping hot wild beast ,

                  2. frogdropping profile image84
                    frogdroppingposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    I think Mark was named after someone a bit more closely related. Or maybe it's because he made his mark from the moment he drew breath. A nice appropriate name eh?

                    You have faith? In?

                    As for satan, he's not overly keen on the internet. I hear he likes to be more personal, insidious. Messes with minds and all that. Or didn't you realise? You're more likely to learn NLP than SEO if you ask him for help.

                    And as for the OP - yes it is. I have asked Santa for some Pandora jewelry. I expect it there, on the 25th. And when it arrives I will duly take a photograph and display it on the forum as proof of his existence.

      3. reb4822 profile image55
        reb4822posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Amen to that,but there is one draw back, when we tell our children about Santa Claus we teach them how to lie,just as it is with Easter we lie about the Easter Bunny. I became a lier at an early age due to the lie that was told to me. When our children grow up this is what makes it easy for them to lie to us because we first lie to them.I believe a lot of the liers ended up in Washington D.C. cause now they lie to the Country.

        1. Mark Ewbie profile image83
          Mark Ewbieposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Hey friend.  Don't start on the Easter Bunny.

  7. Cagsil profile image60
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Christmas is about whatever each person makes it about. End of story.

    1. reb4822 profile image55
      reb4822posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      If not for the Birth of Christ there would be no Christmas for people to lie to about Santa Claus.This would really be a whatever because without Jesus there would be no story to tell truth or the lie of Santa Claus.

  8. Greek One profile image77
    Greek Oneposted 6 years ago

    Santa Claus sounds awfully like Satan's Cause...

    I'm just sayin'...

    1. Nick Malizia profile image59
      Nick Maliziaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Contemporary Santa is similar to Mammon, and the media certainly didn't help the reputation of Saint Nicholas who more than likely did not have elf or brownie familiars.

      XD

    2. reb4822 profile image55
      reb4822posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Keep on saying it, because the more people know that Satan did start this lie that has to do with a man in a red suit,Satan is pictured to be red,mmmm no horn on him but the horns ride with his flying deer.Time to end this lie about Santa which might end lieing , wishful thinking

      1. Greek One profile image77
        Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        EXACTLY!!!

        (although I'm not altogether sure what you mean)

      2. pennyofheaven profile image79
        pennyofheavenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        What lie was that? That Christmas had nothing to do with Christ? That Jesus wasn't born on that day?

        Or that Santa represents the symbol of giving based on a Norse fella? That the Christmas tree represents the symbol of renewal and hope in the winter solstice.

        Christmas no matter its origins, is a chance to teach our children the value of giving and sharing. To teach our children the value of loving. I do not see this as a bad thing.

  9. GavNugent profile image83
    GavNugentposted 6 years ago

    For me its not about Santa or Jesus or anything like that. I don't follow organised religion. We decorate our house in an understated, traditional kind of way, no flashing lights hanging from the house etc. We buy each other presents. We have all grown out of the Santa age, but growing up, it was always the family time that I cherished the most. Christmas dinner with the family, hanging out with my brother all day, having a beer with my Dad - stuff like that.

  10. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

    However the date of what we now call Christmas celebrates the autumn feast to consume the last of the fresh food and fattened beasts before winter.

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      paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Jesus and Mary did not celebrate Christmas.

      1. Ron Montgomery profile image60
        Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Great point.  Were they Zoroastrians?

      2. profile image65
        logic,commonsenseposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Probably because there weren't any food banks to get a Christmas ham.

        1. Greek One profile image77
          Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          that's true.. but I am pretty sure that when the 3 wise men to celebrate what was in fact the first christmas, it was a part of sorts

        2. profile image59
          exorterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          the first of the food banks started in the Old Testament

      3. Beelzedad profile image58
        Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Would you be celebrating Christmas when one of your wives was about to give birth?

        Maybe I'm asking the wrong person... smile

  11. Uninvited Writer profile image82
    Uninvited Writerposted 6 years ago

    I just want to know what paarsurrey is smoking...

    1. Milla Mahno profile image56
      Milla Mahnoposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      You mean they did? How do you know?

    2. Ron Montgomery profile image60
      Ron Montgomeryposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Frankinsense

  12. gamergirl profile image59
    gamergirlposted 6 years ago

    Christmas happens to be about two things:

    Earning Money

    and

    The cyclic death and rebirth/birth of dozens of sun dieties, the most recent of which is Jesus.  Hurray for recurring God-themes in history!

    I still like the first purpose for christmas more, and wish I earned more. ;-)

  13. thisisoli profile image58
    thisisoliposted 6 years ago

    I think it's safe to say that Christmas stopped being about Christ a long time ago.

    1. pennyofheaven profile image79
      pennyofheavenposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Yes agree.

      I rather like that the Christmas tree for the Winter Solstice represented the promise of renewal in the spring. Since our Christmas period is in the summer it wouldn't apply to us. But its fun anyway.

  14. psycheskinner profile image79
    psycheskinnerposted 6 years ago

    ...and that it started being about Christ an even longer time ago.

    1. thisisoli profile image58
      thisisoliposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      and before that it wasn't even about Christ. :p

  15. gamergirl profile image59
    gamergirlposted 6 years ago

    There are reasons other than "not believing in Jesus" for mood changes during the winter months.  Do some research on the topic without religious bias and you'll find some great answers.

  16. Eaglekiwi profile image73
    Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago

    ..But for the whole of  the Southern Hemisphere it is not Winter.


    Christ is the Jesus in Christmas ,but hey I like the big red fat guy smile

    1. Greek One profile image77
      Greek Oneposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      thank you.. but I'm not THAT red

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image73
        Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        (ssshh..)

        Dont tell everyone

        1. Eaglekiwi profile image73
          Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          and Welcome to Walmart ,by the way ~~>big_smile

  17. profile image69
    paarsurreyposted 6 years ago

    Jesus and Mary did not celebrate Christmas; they also did not believe in Santa Claus.

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image73
      Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Saint Nick..was not even born yet and definately not in the middle east!

      but Jesus knows all about Santa -oh yes he does smile

  18. Time4Travel profile image60
    Time4Travelposted 6 years ago

    I wrote a hub on the commercialization of Christmas:
    http://hubpages.com/hub/SavingChristmas

  19. gamergirl profile image59
    gamergirlposted 6 years ago

    Y'know.. I think it's kinda funny to see a hub decrying the commercialization of christmas with ads and amazon capsules and everything all over it.  Funny in a.. "What the hell?" kind of way.  sad

  20. xboxps3wow profile image61
    xboxps3wowposted 6 years ago

    most people don't care about the 'real' christmas and just enjoy the time spent together with family

 
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