I recently downloaded The Message Bible to my ipod and have foun it to be a unique translation of Gods Word. It really breaks it down int plain everyday lingo. I think it a very useful tool for anyone new to the faith and for anyone wanting another way of learning the word. Yet, I still like the poetic flow of the earlier bibles. I like any Bible that stays with the truth.
God Bless You All, this holiday season and everyday throughout the upcoming year.
You presume to know Truth because of the scripture, yet cannot know it without it?
Can you see a fallacy in such thinking?
Kess - with respect, he likely meant truth as in original text. I think that books are often helpful as learning tools. I could eventually figure out how to wire a house, but would get into some big trouble along the way to getting it right. The Christian Bible is a great guidebook to living, whether a Believer or not, whether one takes all the lessons to heart or not.
I guess you also cannot see the fallacy in that line of thought?
Truth can and should only be compared with itself and therefore the Only comparison is Me myself, right where it begins and where it ends.
When you begin to believe Truth is in writings, when and how will you ever end comparing one with the next.
Actually, if I understood Kess correctly?
He was actually correct in what he said. The Truth is in everything, and the bible does in fact exist as something real in our reality, regardless of what you believe.
The Truth- The bible must be incorporated as a piece of the Truth to be discerned- such as the fact it is poorly written, has many different conflicting messages, however, does have some unique qualities as well. Those qualities go unnoticed by most, because many look at the bible as a divine inspiration, which is false even by it's own writing.
It's irony I guess.
Troy, I think the message bible is an excellent tool. What a blessing! The truth in God's holy word shall set us free. Have a Merry Christmas and Happy and Prosperous New year.
Any version of the bible can be misinterpreted, but the message bible is really for the new believer to get a grasp. I don't mind it, but it can cause conflict with some people. I know people who won't read anything but the old King James for fear of incorrect interpretation.
I'm not keen on the Message, not because of some theological objections, I just think it reads very poorly. The goal was to make it read in natural English, but I don't find it natural at all - it's like every sentence has to be an idiom or something. Nobody really writes or talks like that! It seems very forced and stilted, I honestly find it painful to read. I understand the purpose, just don't like the execution of it.
At last we see what you are up to !! You are a god stuff merchant !! I thought self promotion was against the rules ｉｎ ｔｈｅ ｔｈｒｅａｄｓ？
I don't see the need for that china man. I can't see any 'God stuff' for sale on Troy C's hubs, so unless he wrote the message bible I don't see your point. I thought being offensive was against the rules also?
Do you get a different internet to me then? Because his hubs are covered in ads for "God stuff."
Quibble quibble quibble. We all have google ads. China man's accusation incinuated more than this. I mean, I have God Hubs, and I am sure they are full of God goodle ads. Mmmmm funny that you also have hubs on christianity. Maybe you are a closet God Stuff merchant.
After reading China man's comment, I looked expecting to find a hub with an Amazon link to purchase a message bible.
Now back off and leave a good man be.
Quibble? Oh - you mean point out that there are indeed ads for God stuff? What difference does it make if they are google ads or Amazon ads? They are still ads for God stuff.
I have said nothing to the "good man" who causes constant fights and arguments on the "battlefield for the lord"
All I did was point out that you were wrong.
And yes - I own a number of Christian websites that sell religious rubbish - why not take advantage of such a gullible market? They certainly don't listen when I tell them it is all wrong and you cannot buy eternal life - they think they can, and nothing I say is going to stop them thinking that.
Mark - I had to let out a little chuckle when I read that you own sites which sell Christian stuff.
I didn't realise you had that kind of site - I have about four tonnes of real cross splinters and 28 little finger bones of saint manyfingers - would you like to make me an offer ?
There is nothing in my post that is offensive, certainly nothing as offensive as religious spam.
There is certainly nothing wrong in pointing it out when people show their true reasons for banging that bible drum - making jesus and god a commodity is one of the things that has made christianity reviled down the ages.
Definately a valid complaint china man, many people do make Jesus and God a commodity. It is truely appalling how some use faith for financial gain and I have to agree there.
Even the bibe itself warns that there are false teachers with "unhealthy interest in controversies and quarrels about words that result in envy, strife, malicious talk, evil suspicions and constant friction between people of corrupt mind, who have been robbed of the truth and who think that godlinessis a means to financial gain ."
We can not always assume an improper motive however, so perhaps this is not the forum thread for your dispute. Start a new forum thread, I bet you will get a kickass response.....
I think this is the right thread to point out that this is spamming of religious material and the spammer is in it for personal gain - and so should be ignored in these threads.
The OP is pretty much word for word the spamming emails that get through to my junk mail box - for viagra, various sexual mating sites, buy-a-bride and offers of millions of dollars free from Nigeria.
Despite my opposition to religious dogma and the outrageous garbage that comes from the born-again flat earth brigade - I have respect for most religions at base, and I can understand how some people might seek guidance from an outside source to live their life in meaningful and peaceful ways. Snake oil salesmen are counter to any useful discussion and simply mislead the gullible and vulnerable sheeple who read their 'stuff'.
I understand what you are saying. May I respectfully suggest that your assessment on this particular occassion is perhaps askew, maybe as evidenced by your obvious bias in the last paragraph. I am happy to be proved wrong, can always accept it if I am. Also happy to agree to disagree.
To the original question: The Message reminds me somewhat of the Living Bible. Both are paraphrases, and a lot of people like them - and that's okay with me as long as they remember that they are not exactly translations.
I only have the New Testament portion of The Message and occasionally I enjoy reading it, but I don't really want it as my steady diet for reading the Bible. I enjoy reading several different versions.
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