With discoveries at a sub-atomic physics level showing correlation with the views of some Spiritualists who identify the reality as an eternal energy flow and our genetic codes seemingly mapped out, are we simply part of a greater life programme with delusions of self-autonomy?
Jef: Your question is: "Is our path already decided for us?" Then you follow up with a comment. I just asked what caused you to ask this question and what would the purpose be in the "path" being decided for us? I can't say it more simply. Thanks. Qwark
Qwark apologies the comment was not directed at you personally. I was trying to get some rational out of Beelzedad. I do not mean to use this forum to promote my hub however, I have written a piece called 'Programmed for life' in which I expand on my thoughts.
There is a saying that you cannot change your genes, but you can change the expression of your genes. I think we had something to do with what we are now. In fact, this earth has been set to support life but mankind has altered it to become a grave yard. But I see some light in our future. I foresee some enlightenment coming in.
Well this is in the context that intelligence is tangible. I have read book recently called the Tao of Physics that demonstrates the spiritual thinkings on reality and its similarity to modern sub-atomic physics. I am not sure if I am breaking rules here but I have elaborated my thinking in my hub "Programmed for life". This may bring you more into line with my views.
Oh I see. I haven't read the Tao of Physics. I have read one that does kinda the same where they relate the Tao Te Ching and what it advocates to things of physics. Yet even then there was no hint that we came about by intelligent design. Will read your hub. Sounds intriguing.
Life really isn't predetermined for us because we've been given free will but our path is predictable that's why it's so easy to say where we're headed. Just like watching one's own child heading down the wrong path, they can't see it but those who understand what road that child is on knows where they will wind up.
If we are all driven by interrelated forces and created in a modular form genetically then it would seem that we are pretty much part of the whole programme. It may be on a spiritual level that we can opt for a number of paths set out in front of us. I believe that our ultimate spiritual path is that which frees us from the chaos and merges us into the reality. This is the path where we succumb to life's energy flow and find such a balance that we simply become integral to it. We may then be re-manifested in some other part of life to start the journey over, maybe on a higher dimensional level.
It may even be the case that our next dimensional level is dictated by the wisdom we have gathered in our current existence i.e. we could even be demoted so to speak, the heaven and hell scenario you could say.
The word says: "There are two paths you can go by, and in the long run there's still time to change the road you're on." ( from "Stairway To Heaven" by Led Zeppelin) There is the path you have chosen by free will, and there is the path that leads to your true destiny, which is not of your will, but of your spiritual path. The material path, or the spiritual path, and NO ONE can serve two masters. Have a nice new year!
My views are derived from the sub-atomic world of physics which shows a complex interrelated web of energy in which we are all integral. This view is shared by spiritualists who have encountered the same reality through meditative conditioning of the mind. In both cases, a simultaneous process of creation and annihilation takes place continually which is not distinguishable as either the point of life or death. It would appear that our existence and perceptions are completely integrated with the this energy. What we sense, see, think and know is completely dependant on the observers interrelationship with this energy.
OUR collective points exactly Beel. You are like a ticket holder at a standup comedy act, and the only one who doesn't get the punchlines! Frankly, I think it was a PERFECT plan! Oh, and he's right about that energy thing. What do you think I've been trying to tell you. Just trying to keep you from stubbing your toe walking in the darkness the way you do. Luv Ya Beel. Coffee's on. Can you smell it?
We can build a car and drive in whichever direction we wish. However, there is a limit to its speed and if we drove it off a cliff, it would not fly. If we crashed it at 100kph we would at the very least suffer injury. There are paths we can choose but we cannot exceed what is possible. Ultimately, we cannot choose to be born and inevitably we cannot defy death.
Huh? Point, counterpoint, match point. You think we are clueless. You are the one who has only 1/2 of the whole. Long as you are satisfied with half. We'll give the half you don't want to someone else.
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