Crazy as it sounds, I can't help but wonder if there is any significance to the fact that Mohammed came around with the idea of islam 600 years after Christ. This is not to imply that I think there is validity to the notion that Mohammed was a prophet of God (to believe that would mean he couldn't lie, which would mean that I was denying the resurrection of Christ; since he claimed Jesus was merely a prophet) Still, numbers have meaning and it seems odd that mohammed's death occurred so close to 600 years after Christ was risen. I guess my question is, does anyone know the significance of numbers, as they might have been seen by the ancients; where it might shed some otherworldly perspective on the timing of the rise of Islam.
why bother?..christ or mohammed , in end what matters is faith on what they said for those who believe in either of them or both...for those who dont it doesnot matter ...
I think that numbers of years are of the greatest of importance if we are concerned with prophesy.
Why else would these references of "Times, half times, etc have been included through out these prophesy?
What people must understand is that IF we use these prophetic time =s X number of earth years, we must always use these comparisons in all prophetic messages. Not just some of them.
For instance 1260 days in prophesy would always equal 1260 of our years. Not just sometimes.
But I disagree with that equation.
I believe that 1260 prophetic days are equal to approx 1650 of our years.
Either way? this 42 months that prophesy says that this beast as described in Rev. 13 (False religion) was given would have to be either 1260 of our years OR 1650 years as I suggest,
When you consider the implications of that; you will know why this concept of a prophetic day equals X # of years has been obscured for the past 1600 plus years.
I do not know how to accurately answer that. I do know, that Christ and Muhammad taught views that are diametrically opposed to each other though. Unfortunately, many lump the two together as if the same. The facts show where the truth is, and that is in their actual teachings.
actually untrue, as I just had lunch with the pair, burgers and onions, less that was a coincidence there names are identical? :
Christ and Mohammed
They both were sent by Allah- the Creator God as Messengers and Prophets to guide the people towards His path; in this sense they were brothers in their spirits. Jesus or Christ was sent for guidance of the Jews. Muhammad was a Messenger Prophet for the whole world.
I Thank God Always For His Son and Our Savior Jesus Christ.
I Thank Christ Always for All That He has Said and Done, for the sake of ole Foolish Man!
God on numerous of times (Lots of Numbers) told man, that He's Not Happy with them, and to Listen and Obey Him. Man chose Not to, So one Last Effort on God's part was to send His Only Begotten Son, into this Loss and Dying world, for mans sake!
God nor Christ on any occasion (zero times) made reference to Mohammad.
hmmmm Wonder Why?
Thank You Lord for blessing Man, with the power to choose(free moral agent)
Thank You Lord For Sending Your Son into this Loss and Dying World.
I pray this day, that all will choose God/Christ and What He has said and done, and become Wise, rather than follow a False Prophet, and thus be Foolish! And spend an eternity in torment and damnation, away from God and Christ!
I am so grateful, that Heaven Wont be too Crowded!
it depends of which heaven you are talking about...there are four different versions of them with 4 different criterias to get in...and it covers 4 billion + and that is crowded enough...
yes, i'm sure u r correct, in what u share here, however; The Lord our God, and Savior Jesus Christ, only mentiones One! (His)! I pray all will be Wise, and Follow What They Say, v. Ole Foolish Man sayings. And again, Wow, 4 billion Loss; huh? hmmm thank you Lord, that Your Heaven wont have any of them in it, and thus will have plenty of room, for those that choose to be wise, and Follow Him, and What He Says! thanks for sharing pisean; much appreciated, u taught me something this day!
Greateful that heaven won't be too crowded ???? Hey Matty,, as a Christian myself It hurts me to hear you say this,,, Christ called us to love,, not be sarcastic,, or whatever you intended with these comments.
Please read Luke Ch 18: 11-14. Bind these words to your heart. Take care and God bless
thank you much for your "Selected" scriptures, much appreicated, and too, your misunderstanding of the Truth I chose to share, according to Just Him!
For I thank Him daily, knowing Heaven Wont Be Crowded as He so had saith!
Thanks again hdt498.
I want to encourage all, to take a moment out, to gain, in knowledge and wisdom, pertaining to all thee above thoughts/comments, by reviewing this.
Hope This Helps!
The trail doesn't begin, nor does it end with Jesus and Muhammad, who was actually walkin' around 400 A.D. Another fact is that he was becoming enlightened halfway to the Crusades, Rome was crumbling, and a legend was born called "Arthur". There are more cross corellations here.
After reading your egotistical, selfish, and deluded prior posts, I think it would be wise to disregard anymore of your regurge about your pathetic, psychotic, and unjust God.
ps. This is MADNESS!
Did I say something which isn't historically accurate. Don't be an idiot.
This reply was not meant for you.
And I really don't like your tone.
matt6v33posted 2 days ago
I am so grateful, that Heaven Wont be too Crowded!
Composer responds: I have been trying for over 50 years to find a single genuine story book jesus believer but alas the tally remains at zero!
Meanwhile the claim of ' heaven going for all believers ' is spurious according to the bible story book, however I would be interested to examine upon what story book basis ' heaven going for all believers ' is allegedly legitimately based?
Tell you what, here's my story book evidence refuting ' heaven going for all story book jesus believers ' -
The story book unambiguously teaches heaven going for all genuine believers is none sense.
The heaven, [even] the heavens, [are] the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men. (Psalm 115:16) KJV story book
Story book rewards are to be given to by story book christ at his alleged story book return. "And, behold, I come quickly, and MY REWARD IS WITH ME, to give every man according as his work shall be" (Rev. 22:12) story book. Alleged rewards and inheritance are reserved in story book heaven. They come down out of story book heaven with story book christ at his return.
For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth. (Psalm 37: 9) KJV story book
But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace. (Psalm 37:11) KJV story book
For [such as be] blessed of him shall inherit the earth; and [they that be] cursed of him shall be cut off. (Psalm 37:22) KJV story book
The righteous shall inherit the land, and dwell therein for ever. (Psalm 37:29) KJV story book
Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done in earth, as [it is] in heaven. (Matthew 6: 10) KJV story book
And hast made us unto our God kings and priests : and we shall reign on the earth. (Rev. 5:10) KJV story book
Your alleged legitimate evidence contradicting that please?
I'm not sure if I understand the significance of 600 years. The years of Christ's birth and death are highly speculative. Heck, there isn't even definitive proof that he ever existed. We do have fairly conclusive evidence that Muhammad existed, but most of the details of his life are also speculative, including the exact years of his birth and death. The different calendars that have been popularized in the years since have only added to the confusion.
uhhh. According to Josephus, the first century historian in the employ of the Roman Empire, one Jesus from the area of Nazareth, in Palestine, did, indeed, exist. Further., Herod existed, Pontius Pilate existed, and Joseph Of Arimathea is recorded in other Roman records as a mining minister in the employ of the empire. Whaddaya want? His birth certificate? Maybe Hawaiis got it. Did you check there?
That is entirely not true. Josephus was not even born, hence he was clearly unable to confirm anything about an alleged Christ.
Josephus was aware of the fall out that was occurring after the crucifixion of Christ. Josephus was born a short 3 to 9 years after the crucifixion. He saw what was going on while he was growing up.
That is like saying; "You weren’t born until a couple of years after the Civil war started, so, (from a prospective 2000 years later), what do you know about it? Nothing ."
Now you know that Josephus' birthdate and date of death are not known. Stop misrepresenting the truth.
What have you to say about Herod, Pontius and Arimathea?
They all have hard evidence from a variety of sources that show their existence.
Say what about Christ?
If I refuse to recognize the freckles on Howdy Doodys face, does that mean that they didn't exist?.
No, it just means you refuse to accept reality.
I was actualy talking about you.
When any evidence that Jesus existed is presented to you; You simply refuse to accept reality the same way I refuse to accept the fact that Howdy Doody had freckles.
Do you see the freckles?
So, you believe they existed, but Jesus didn't? Real strong case there. Wouldn't bounce over to the D.A.'s office just yet. Other historical figures also say he lived. Are they all lying just to give you something to fixate on? Maybe it's a big CONSPIRACY. Give it up.
Jerami is saying YOU are denying the freckles. Just go sit in your darkness. Quietly...maybe we'll be able to deny you are there!
What evidence, Jerami? Where is it? Many other historical figures have evidence to support their existence, Christ does not. Sorry.
You have seen the freckles! Yet you reject the evidence, falsly accusing lack of validity.
There isn't enough PROOF in this whole wide world to prove that which YOU do not want to believe.
Where is the evidence for your Christ, Jerami?
I have seen Many, Many good answers to your questions, but you just don't get it.
If you want to catch the ball you gotta raise at least one hand up in an attemtp to catch it.
Otherwise they just keep flying past over your head.
That is so you would be blessed. "Blessed are those who have not seen, and yet, believed." Beware of Greeks bearing gifts, but never look a gift horse in the mouth.
Druid Dudeposted 2 days ago in reply to this
uhhh. According to Josephus, the first century historian in the employ of the Roman Empire, one Jesus from the area of Nazareth, in Palestine, did, indeed, exist. . . . .
Composer responds: - Josephus was not a contemporary historian. He was born in the year 37 C.E., several years after Jesus' alleged death. There is no way he could have known about Jesus from his own personal experience. At best, he could have recorded the activities of the new cult of Christianity, and what they said about their crucified leader. So, even if Josephus wrote about Jesus, it is not a credible source.
I don't know that I would place any importance on the year of anything to do with Muhammed, however I do feel that Islam has utmost importance in regards to christian prophecy.
If you study islamic and christian eschatology (end times prophecies), you will notice a glaring connection. They are not similar, but are mirror opposites in regards to the characters involved. Compare the Islamic 'good guys' (e.g. the Madhi and Isa) and their actions with Christian 'bad guys' (e.g. the Antichrist and False Prophet) and you will see they are the same.
Don't worry about the dates of Islamic events past. Worry about the predictions of Islamic events to come.
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