If American Idol Voted Allah #1, Would That Make It True?

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   AKA Winstonposted 13 years ago

   Why really makes your beliefs true and another's false?

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      Quilligrapherposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      My beliefs can be either true or false. I can't be sure because all beliefs are personal convictions that rely for their existence on faith, trust, confidence, creed, doctrine, opinion, expectation, or judgment. One of my beliefs is that my beliefs are generally helpful concepts until I treat them as indisputable facts.

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Perception.

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      Sally's Troveposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Nothing (nobody) voted #1 on American Idol would make him/her/it true. It's all media and entertainment hype.
      
      So if Allah were voted #1 there, that would bring him even less credibility.
      
      He'd just be a media star, a fad, here today, gone tomorrow.

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      AEvansposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Knowledge. Although we should not discredit a person's beliefs knowledge is the key to understanding.

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   aka-djposted 13 years ago

   You have a strange way of describing it.
   
   Truth is TRUTH. Even if NO-ONE believes it.
   
   Jesus said of Himself, "I AM truth..."
   
   Your believing it, or denying it makes NO difference to the TRUTH, of His claim.
   
   If another claims truth to be them, or their interpretation, we'll have to wait till "the dust settles, and the lsat one standing will be declared the winner"...so to speak!

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Who are you addressing your post to?

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         aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Sorry.
         
         I was addressing the OP!

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            pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Oh ok thanks

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      pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      jesus is not first person to say I am truth...many before him said that and even after him said that...
      
      
      coming to truth.....yes .truth is truth...no matter how many prophets, god man or those who claim themselves to be god , come and go...it doesnot change the truth...so believing in god or christ or rama or krishna or buddha or moses doesnot change the truth...and what truth is no body knows...those who believe in christ...consider christ as god is truth ...those who believe in allah..consider allah as truth and so on...ultimately what we say as truth is mere our conclusion...it might be truth or it might not be truth...

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         aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You are one who will "have to wait till the dust settles..."
         
         Jesus will remain seated on the Throne of Heaven. He is the only One who was raised from the dead to authenticate His divinity. But now, that's a matter of faith, isn't it?

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            pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            ofcourse...mere faith ...no proof and that is with every religious figure...so guess it is human nature...nothing wrong in that as long as one doesnot try to impose that believes on others...

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            getitriteposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Yeah, faith based on nothing but hearsay.  If that is all that is required for TRUTH, then The Flying Spaghetti Monster is absolute truth.  He is the only ONE sitting on the heavenly throne, because it says so in the book of Pasta.

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            AKA Winstonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Saying "it's a matter of faith" is the same thing as saying "it's a matter of opinion".

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         AKA Winstonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         (truth is truth....and what truth is no body knows)
         
         If you don't know what truth is, how can you know it is a reality?

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            pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            No absolutely truth. Just ever changing perception of what is.

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               AKA Winstonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               If truth changes due to perception, then truth is subjective (dependent upon an observer).  That makes it opinion only.
               
               Wouldn't it then be rather terrifying to discount the opinion of those 2,192,202 call-in votes for Allah over your 147 in attendence last Sunday at the Pentecostal local?

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                  pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Yes indeed it does make it opinion only.
                  
                  Why terrifying in your opinion? I am not sure what you are asking?

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                     AKA Winstonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     If truth is opinion, it seems reasonable that those who agree what that truth is by a large majority should be followed - hence, if your were a Christian Pentecostal with say 4 million followers worldwide and there were 4 billion Muslims worldwide, you would be laying some long odds that your opinion of truth was right.
                     
                     After all, that is pretty much how we determine truth is trials - by opinion.

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                        pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        Ever changing perception of "what is".  "what is" is referring to the true nature of our existence. Our true nature cannot be experienced by anyone but oneself. It can be described but cannot be given by one to another.  Truth or rather awareness of what is, is not dependent on other people. It is a subjective experience.
                        
                        If people choose to follow another that is their choice. There are many ways to revealing our true nature. One way is not better than another. It all comes down to choice. Follow or do not follow. Makes no difference if revelation of what we are comes to the fore.

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            pisean282311posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            @AKA Winston who said i know the reality or for that matter any one knows it?...what our brain seems to be convinced about becomes truth for us...that is why there are so many books said to be divine ...so many religious heads called as god sent ,or god themselves...now one can't simply say x book is right and y book is wrong...one may surely say x book is right according to me and y book is wrong according to me...according to is important out here...generalizing them for every one is not truth but claiming one's conclusion of what is truth...

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      AKA Winstonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      So what you are saying is that until we find out in the hereafter that every belief held by man before that time is nothing but personal opinion - is that it?   Truth is Truth but no one will know the Truth until after they die - so until then noone knows what to believe because - again - it is all nothing but opinion.  Right?
      
      In that case, what is the basis for chosing which opinion to follow?  Is it based on charisma of the leader?  Threats?  Family background?  Genetics?
      
      If you cannot know if what you chose is right until after you are dead, then what made you choose the religious beliefs you hold?  And do you acknowledge that your beliefs, then, are nothing but opinion and may be completely false?
      
      Thanks

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