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   Elisah1957posted 13 years ago

   Every man is born with the imprint of G-d manifested in the very fabric of their being. Even the demons know the existence of G-d. (James 2: 19-20). Concerning the act of labeling, there are several groups who can befall within a category, not only those termed (Atheists). One group being the (Prostitutes), those whom use G-d innocent by His name to gain fame, honor, prestige and wealth to achieve self-gratification. G-d speaks of them here: (1 Timothy 6:5) and (2 Timothy 3: 13). The (Judgmental Socialist) being the High Holidays, Sunday or Sabbath appearers; Those merely wanting to be seen as righteous to the public in order to cover their own crimes. The law followers of the underground, secretly trying to buy their way into G-d Grace. They are those of this scripture: (Matthew 25:37-46).  And there are the (Believers), those not seeking nothing in return but offer to G-d in secret their loyalty by actions; The rejects of society. They are mentioned here: (Matthew 6: 1-4). And than, there are the (Jokers) messengers of satan. They pretend to listen in all earnest but use the word of G-d as a batting ram between those seeking G-d. Similar to those G-d speak about to Ezekiel. They are sourced here: (Ezekiel 33: 30-33).
   
   I do not believe in Athesitism nor does the atheist. What has happened is the absence of truth, non-revealed of those whom say L-rd, L-rd, these; Those who say I'm a man of G-d but in action portray  G-d often as to offend another or judge with criticism. The behavior causing one to believe from such hurtful actions the G-d they serve being one and the same of those whom do or say evil. Therefore, the pursuit of anger ensues and one is termed Atheistist (One who wrestles with G-d). Similar in the struggle (but not of the same motive) that accured with (Jacob) whom after He wrestled with G-d, name later became (Israel). (Genesis 32: 22-32).
   
   I myself, claim accused as once being (one whom wrestled with G-d). My mother was an individual with very biblical strongholds. Being Orthodox Jew was a religious rite.; But behind the synagogue she was a very harsh, abusive individual, not only her hands but her tongue could have brought down the Roman Empire. Those of her peers viewed her as the author of saints. She prospered and life went on. In turn, my anger against G-d and/or belief in Him fueled. A personal situation that I was born with only ignited her fury against me; For I was gifted with what the world term as (The Sight). I was able to see and hear evil spirits and angelic messengers of G-d and discern future accurances. My mother considered me a demon incarnate. My anger being why was I born this way and than abused.
   
   During my college years my anger was so consumed that I had decided to end my life. I once went to a busy area of the city and sat on a bench, deciding which building to jump from. A spirit in the form of a man approached me, this spirit was different, unlike the others. I felt it in my spirit. He said to me �Don't do it, you have already gained entrance into paradise�! Well, as is evident I did not commit suicide. But my question of G-d still existed. After my graduation from college, the existence of G-d was confirmed with affirmation of His Glory. I was physically attacked by a serial killer whom left me for dead. I was rescued but at one point termed clinically dead for (5) minutes.
   
   When I regained conscience â��I saw hellâ��!  was my first words to the medical staff. I also shared with them that dying was painless. Yes, the initial attack was frightening to the senses but I only felt the first blow; The other blows were as though the assailant was hitting against air. During death, I witnessed strange things and a peaceful moment. My whole spiritual life changed and G-d became very personal in my life.  My L-rd Yeshua answers and reveals many things to me. And I'm giving much understanding. The Holy Spirit is a blessed asset from G-d. The go in-between, giving one information about G-d and the Son. G-d has shown to me wonderful things and I have seen things to occur which are very disturbing. I'm now able to discern the difference between spirits of good and evil, but they are very clever and often I must obtain confirmation. I was blessed with G-d Grace for I returned but there are many that are not giving that chance.
   
   Each is created and giving a gift of G-d choosing, for He creates one to be as He desires, just as He did King Cyrus of Persia. (Isaiah 44:28) and (Chapter 45).
   
   Many arguments and confusion arise from wrongful theological misinterpretations and not having the knowledge of scripture to understand how to live. The reason for the bible is explained in (2 Timothy 3: 16-17) �The whole bible was given to us by inspiration from G-d and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives; It straightens us out and helps us to do what is right. It is G-d way of making us well prepared at every point, fully equipped to do good to everyone�.
   
   Therefore the events written in the bible are not merely stories but instructions to teach one how to live and the consequences of all behavior. And offering the understanding of whom the one said as �Our G-d and L-rd�.
   Our G-d in scripture reveals when said (Hosea 4:6...) â��My people are destroyed because they don't know meâ��. Those responsible will be severely punished by G-d.   
   
   
   We all know the (Ten Commandments), they are written in our hearts. Our L-rd Yeshua gave us two simple words (Love and Faith) He stressed it! (Love and Faith). My friends, Believe, they cover all the commandments and the only ((Simple)) two things giving one assured salvation.                   LOVE and FAITH
   
   Hell is real! The souls of many are there as today and descend continuously.
   
      Many are saying â��how does this apply to meâ��! But through the power of G-d â��Great things happenâ��.
   
   Shalom

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      Dave Mathewsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      To the atheist life is mind over matter, they mind nothing and nothing in life matters.

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         Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         And to the religionist - ignorance is a virtue and violence is all they want.
         
         No wonder they cause so many wars.

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            Dave Mathewsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I am far from ignorant and I want not violence. I seek peace and harmony amongst all of my brothers and sisters.

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               Mark Knowlesposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               No - if you did - you would not have said what you said.
               
               No wonder your religion causes so many wars.

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         Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         This statement is so far from the truth of the matter, but shows how much you lack any understanding of people and their actions.

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         frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         You post holier than thou verbiage - "I am far from ignorant and I want not violence. I seek peace and harmony amongst all of my brothers and sisters" - and yet post something as offensive as that and think it's ok?
         
         Seriously - I'm disgusted and massively offended.

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      Beelzedadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Seems like religion has had an incredibly bad effect on your life and in essence destroyed your family. I won't comment on what it has done to your mental state as you've made that fairly obvious here:
      
      "I was able to see and hear evil spirits and angelic messengers of G-d "

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      Davidsonofjesieposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Why do you write G-D instead of GOD

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         china manposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         That will be out of respect for his god, people who respect their god, whether it is real or not, frequently have more respect for people.
         
         If you don't understsand what he has written you can always ask him to put into christian words for you, quite short and simple sentences is the best thing to ask for.

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         Elisah1957posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I'm Ethiopian, Messiah Jew, if not understood, I'm a Jew whom believe Yeshua to be the Messiah, the Son of G-d and the way I title the word of G-d and L-rd is done by Jews for their purpose, which is to allow G-d our respect. In other words, keeping ourselves informed that He is so worthy that even His written title should be made aware by us that we are not worthy, to do so in full print, for G-d is not common, for there being none like our G-d and there being none like our L-rd but being deserving of up-most respect, for remember our L-rd Yeshua even explains in Matthew 19: 16-17 and Mark 10:17-18 that no one should not speak of anyone as Good, for only G-d is termed Good. This has been the Jewish way for thousands of years.
         
         Shalom

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   pennyofheavenposted 13 years ago

   So in your opinion those who are evil have this imprint of God in them too? If that is what you are saying then I do agree. The imprint is in all things even those in their own self created hell dimensions.

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      Elisah1957posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hello Penny,
      
      There are many with whom have not had the G-d giving blessing of seeing His, G-d manifestation within the imprint of another; such as the beautiful experience of it being shown from the life of a newborn. I'm not referring to the unfortunate accurance of the absence of this experience by way of an individual becoming pregnant and there being the absence of care; The event only being something that happened from lack of restraint or misuse of protection. Therefore, the life kneaded within becoming absent by man of existence, allowing one to lose sight of G-d manifestation in all His Glory but instead viewing only a burden of reprieve.
      
      I'm referring to a couple or single parent whom throughout the pregnancy share in the growth of the child, watching the belly swell, feeling the heart beat of human life, “G-d gift”, the movements, the anticipation. Yes, all these things; G-d giving miracles, “His life”. No man cannot perform this, for man cannot even make “dirt”.
      
      Then, we come to the birth and the child arrive. Has one ever smelled their infant first breath, something yet, untouched by the filth presented from the evil presence of this world. A beautiful smell, the smell of innocence, perfection “The smell of G-d”. No, man cannot produce this, if so, there would be a lack of children for the fee involved would halt the manufacturing of such; G-d His Gift is one free of charge. There is then the stare and content from the face of the infant; The child has no care of whether their new home is a shack, mansion or the dwelling of the streets. The stare is one of serenity and peace, clinging only to the comfort of the love, loved by. This is the manifestation of G-d inner being in person. Man cannot create nor produce this evidence of G-d life like awareness.   For man has shown through all existence that his most greatest talent is being one of melancholy and strife.
      
      G-d is Awesome for His wonders never cease!!!

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         Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Anyone who has to answer to any external authority, never grows up.

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            pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I agree.

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            Elisah1957posted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Hello Cagsil,
            
            A slave is one with no growth, definition title or status; One depending on the joy, livelihood and mega existence by another. One of robotic performance of  his master. We can allow ourselves to become slaves to anything that will rob us of our self-control. But one has a choice! This discussion reminds me of a statement from any years ago, when was stated to me “What is the choice of being, when only one's choice is to serve”. This was said by the thoughts of low maturity. Literally! The individual being (10) years old. Although, the reasoning, I offer to day was one of a different maturity annotated from yesterday,; The meaning is the same. Being of youth is one of the most rewarding times of an individual life. For there is the logic, questions and visions that shower the mind. I refer to this period as the time of the “Inventors”. Many of those favored of G-d from ancient were young. Mary, the earthy mother of Our L-rd Yeshua was (15) years old. The disciples, most of them, if were her today would not qualify by age for a drivers license.
            
            The disciples, served G-d for His purpose and they were not slaves but free men; G-d gave to them the gift of wisdom, and they were made great for their loyalty and “grew” into greatness “A slave is not giving an opportunity to be made great” his growth is stifled. King Solomon was great. G-d gave to him the gift of wisdom, because he asked of it. And his kingdom was one of “growth” from G-d glory. Now, one can serve the other “The Adversary” (satan).The only other choice. Believe, one than is a slave, for there is no offer of wisdom. The servitude is one of “tic for tac”. Yes, you may, achieve fame, honor and prestige but it will be short lived. G-d in-turn only ask of one to love and  respect others and in faith believe in Him; This is all G-d require. If one cannot allow these gifts to another, well, this man is sadly a man of ill- rebuke.
            
            Many exaggerate G-d purpose for man but the law has been canceled. Therefore, this confuse others to believe the yoke G-d place around one neck is heavy. A burden. For G-d children are not slaves. The wisdom, understanding and knowledge giving of His glory to one “creates growth”. Why do you think there are the many Jews that are successful. G-d children “grow”. The growth comes from G-d gift of wisdom and G-d will give it to all whom ask; All those belonging to Him. Therefore, allowing one to freely at their own choice to welcome success “Growth”. Yes, each is giving a different task at different levels but is a free man. And all gain success! A man who sprouts in peace, strength and endurance. One grows with G-d, for as is said: (James 4:2-3) “You want what you don't have, so you kill to get it. You long for what others have, and can't afford it, so you start a fight to take it away from them. And yet the reason you don't have what you want is that you don't ask G-d for it. And even when you do ask you don't get it because your whole aim is wrong—You want only what will give “you” pleasure”.
            
            The (10) year old mentioned earlier, is now a “Medical Surgeon”, one whom serves  for  the growth of others. He do not reason now of being a slave but has “grown” from the word of G-d. So, Yes, with G-d one grows but as a free man.
            
            For those whom are young, G-d gave the manuscript being “The book of Proverbs”. It serves as a great purpose in the formulation of growth. I have been in the company of such, who contribute this book giving of G-d to their success.
            
            Shalom

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         pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yes and it is the conditioning of man that conceals the God within.

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   Paragliderposted 13 years ago

   So how do you feel about judgmental socialist atheist prostitutes who like telling jokes? I only ask because I met one the other day and she seemed ok.

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      aguasilverposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Nice humour!
      
      I rather wish people would not put hubs in the forums.... especially when they don't actually have any hubs themselves.

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      She has the God print.

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         Julie2posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         LMFAO!

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      ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      lol

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   habeeposted 13 years ago

   What is "atheistism"?

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      frogdroppingposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      A new and improved way of spelling atheism. Dictionary 101 - the HP religion forum

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         Julie2posted 13 years agoin reply to this

         good one!

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   Bill Manningposted 13 years ago

   What a great, uplifting story. I'm sure your filled with lots of happiness and love now. Enjoy your life and have a good one!

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      Elisah1957posted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Hello Bill,
      
      I'm retired, although many of my former colleagues do not understand the notion. With my life, I cannot complain for throughout my adult life G-d has giving to me much joy and many blessings. Through my work; I have had the opportunity to do extensive travel, sharing with the thoughts of many. My four children are healthy and gifted with success; They were an asset to my life. I adored them and learned much from them. I was blessed to be able to  share their younger years without strife. And now I'm gifted with the ability to full-time share in my knowledge of G-d with others.
      
      I'm Blessed
      
      Shalom

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   just_curiousposted 13 years ago

   As a Christian, I find this offensive. As someone new to Hub Pages, I am beginning to gain insight as to why some professed atheists can be so militant in their posts.  I hope you gain some insight into the message of the scriptures.

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      luvpassionposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Share your insight please...most of us know why the atheist hubbers write the way they do, but I'm interested in your view.
      
      Teri

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         just_curiousposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I think some have very valid, well thought out reasons for finding religion off base. and I think when they see see some posts by Christians as coming of as holier than thou it irritates them. Which might make them less than cordial in later conversations.  I don't rightly know. I'll be honest, I've become stumped since I posted that comment. I could very possibly be wrong.

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   TahoeDocposted 13 years ago

   Hell is real! The souls of many are there as today and descend continuously
   
   Like Mark Twain said "Heaven for the climate, hell for the company." Bring it on- I'd rather listen to Einstein and Sagan and the likes than this carp for eternity.

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      pennyofheavenposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      What did he mean by that?

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         TahoeDocposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Hi Penny and sorry...What did who mean? the OP who said "Hell is real!, etc" or Mark Twain?
         
         I realize I forgot to give the OP credit for the first quote and that my post might be confusing.
         
         The OP, well, I can't begin to imagine what he meant by anything except posting to try to start an inflammatory discussion.
         
         Mark Twain...I don't know him either, although I would LOVE to have a chat and a whiskey with him. I can guess based on the well known fact that Twain was not a fan of organized religion. It seems he may have been a deist or believed in a God but not the bible or other practices of Christianity. I think (and it's just a guess) his quote is a joke about the discomfort of supposed flames and torture, but more lively people you might encounter in hell. If it's true that only "saved" Christians can go to heaven, then a lot of famous and potentially interesting people may be in hell, while some pretty terrible people (like pedophile preists) will end up in heaven. He also said "It ain't those parts of the Bible that I can't understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand."  I feel a hub coming on...

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            aguasilverposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            I think you can be assured that paedophile priests will NOT be present in Heaven, from what I understand it's not a club to join at will, but one to be invited to, and if you are a paedophile priest, it's pretty obvious you are not entitled to any invitation.
            
            On the other hand....
            
            
            
            May be your idea of fun!

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               Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               So are you suggesting by that graphic that a bunch of normal fun-loving kids are to be equated with Hitler and such like monsters?

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                  maven101posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Never thought I would find you participating in these inane arguments that seem to pop up like Clinton's Bimbo Eruptions...Although, I do appreciate your levity...Larry

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                     Paragliderposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Just a quiet day at work, Larry!

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                  aguasilverposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Not at all, just suggesting that IF hell exists, it would obviously be reserved for those who chose, or by virtue of their behaviour when alive, were not able to be in Heaven (if that exists) and as such, it is more than likely that a few folk who chose NOT to be with God would by default end up spending eternity with people who (by their behaviour when alive) had demonstrated that they also would not be suitable to be with God.
                  
                  And that 'party' may look like this image....
                  
                  Now as all this is hypothetical in secularists eyes, and as most folk on the forums insist God does not exist, I cannot see what harm examining the hypothetical situations that MAY exist, if Hell did or does exist, could cause....
                  
                  After all, we all KNOW that hell is just a fabrication of the Church don't we..... we do KNOW that don't we?
                  
                  So no harm done then!

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               TahoeDocposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               It was a joke, based on someone else's joke, because the OP was so nasty and offensive that I didn't think the response warranted much more than a joke.
               
               Having said that, no that isn't my idea of fun, but I can joke about it because I have no fear of it actually occuring. None. Doesn't bother me.
               
               But, if one did want to debate who would go to heaven or hell - which I really don't because it's pointless, then we would first have to solve the age-old biblical contradiction of the path to salvation. This basic tenet of Christianity cannot be agreed upon by Christian scholars or apologists over the centuries. Faith or works or both?
               
               And while Christian scholars cannot figure this out, I'm absolutely sure that someone - actually several people - here on the forums will have the absolute truth about this issue and will therefore be able to decide where each of the people in the photo will "go" after their death.
               
               If a priest truly believes in Christ, makes the mistake of raping a boy or two, repents because his bishop told him to pray some more...then heaven, right? I guess it depends on which "brand" of Christianity you believe is correct. Catholics, up to and including the Pope, believe this is the truth.

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               Daniel Carterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               This little poster doesn't depict hell at all. It is an expression of life as we know it on earth. And if earth life is hell, then it is.
               
               However, heaven and hell are more likely a state of mind rather than a destination. I've lived in both many times in this life, and I'm beginning to see how heaven is a state of mind regardless of this life or any possible after life.
               
               As for atheists and believers, I include both in my life and feel all the better about having them in my life. Some I like, some not so much. But in the end, I'm in control of how I feel about anything or anyone, religious or not. If I'm not in control, then I life at every whim that comes along. I have no intention of living that way.

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                  Julie2posted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  You are right when you stated, "heaven and hell are more likely a state of mind rather than a destination." I always thought this was hell because of things I've gone thru in my life.

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                     ceciliabeltranposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     they are all metaphors available for us to decode at our own time and readiness

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   Elisah1957posted 13 years ago

   The subject related to “Atheists” was inspired by the Holy Spirit it's purpose being to illustrate the interpretation of Criticizism and the dangers related to judgment.For G-d said “Hypocrite! take the board out of one own eye...(Matthew 7:5). G-d did not say a splinter but a piece of lumber.  The character groups mentioned, such being: “The Judgmental Socialist”, “The Prostitutes”, “The Jokers” and “Atheists are real actual character groups, not in terms adopted by society but in the spiritual nature. Many may fall within these categories. But the narrative was to annotate that only G-d knows the secrets within the heart and motives of man. Sourced  from (Matthew 7:1) “Don't criticize, and then you won't be criticized”. The danger of criticism and judging can cause one wrestling with G-d to lose their salvation and in turn the one doing the judging being in the sight of G-d doomed as a murderer one being held accountable for that lost(death). For Our L-rd Yeshua says: “Unless you turn to G-d from your sins and become as little children, you will never get into the Kingdom of Heaven. Therefore anyone who humbles himself as this little child is the greatest in the Kingdom of Heaven. And any of you who welcomes a child like this because you are mine, is welcoming me and caring for me. But if any of you causes one of these little ones who trust in me to lose his faith, it would be better for you to have a rock tied to your neck and be thrown into the sea”. (Matthew 18: 2-6 ); And Our L-rd Yeshua gives an account of such behavior against G-d children, when said from the passage in (Matthew 18: 10-11) “Beware that you don't look down upon a single one of these little children. For I tell you that in heaven their angles have constant access to my Father. And I the Messiah, came to save the lost”.
     “If your eye is pure, there will be sunshine in your soul. But if your eye is clouded with evil thoughts and desires, you are in deep spiritual darkness. And oh, how deep that darkness can be”! (Matthew 6:22-23).
   
   Shalom

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      Cagsilposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      

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