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The F.... word in Church

  1. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 6 years ago

    I was sent an email with this.
    I thought it might be worth sharing here.
    let's hear what you all think.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8fV7ONAxM

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      Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      That's not even right.
      That preacher may think he's doing the right thing, but the conclusion he brought the message to will cause needless confusion and manipulation.
      It would be different if "the f word" originally meant "forgive" and he was trying to kinda re-claim it, but it didn't, and he can't.
      I think he's another "f word"------a fool.  It's obvious that God didn't give him that message to preach.   I'm disappointed at the things preachers will do and say to attract attention, instead of preaching the awesome Gospel that needs no embellishment.

      1. Daniel Carter profile image92
        Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        So I take it by your position that he's not preaching the word, and therefore banned from the Kingdom of God?

        Maybe this preacher's "F word" could be applicable in your feelings toward him?

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          Brenda Durhamposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          It's not my place to ban him from the Kingdom of God!  .....The video ends before the final conclusion.....are we to assume he didn't explain himself better later in the sermon?  I suppose so!   
          If I were in that congregation, though, I'd probably take him aside after the service and admonish him.  Whether he listened or not would be his decision.  I think he should retract what he said the next time he preaches, or else step down from the ministry.  The type of thing he's put out there is nonsense, and shouldn't be allowed to continue.  Perhaps he will ask God for forgiveness, and I sure hope he doesn't just ask God for "the f word"....

          1. Daniel Carter profile image92
            Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Couldn't help but chuckle about that visual Brenda...

            The preacher says

            Please God, "F word" me.

            1. Eaglekiwi profile image73
              Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Think God is much bigger than trends ,no doubt hes seen it all.

              But who are we to judge that God wont use this (his style) for good.

              I am reminded of the scripture.

              "He who is not with me is against me,"
              Matthew 12:30. Luke 11:23

              (The disciples couldnt wait to tell Jesus ,how others were preaching his laws...)

              The above scripture was Jesus 's reply

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        paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I agree with you that the preacher should not have gone so low.

      3. Eaglekiwi profile image73
        Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        I wouldnt go as far as to say its wrong ,but I do agree the Preacher does seem to have joined the 'Hollywood' style of 'Getting the crowds attention' and making it hip. I would safely assume hes trying to usher in the word of God on a level some may identify with more easily.

        Some people are sensitive to Church heavy traditions and holier than thou preaching (which in my opinion can be just as nauseating).

        His message was a good one smile

    2. the pink umbrella profile image72
      the pink umbrellaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      absolutely loved that. in fact, im not a christian, but now whenever someone pisses me off im going to say "forgive you" instead of F u. That way i dont have to walk around all pissed.

      1. the pink umbrella profile image72
        the pink umbrellaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        now, im going to go forgive my man....excuse me.

      2. aka-dj profile image79
        aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Wow.
        That's awesome.
        Good for you. It would be nice if everyone had that attitude!
        How different the world would be if we all just forgave each other, no matter what.
        smile

        1. Woman Of Courage profile image60
          Woman Of Courageposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          Agreed. smile

          1. aka-dj profile image79
            aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Isn't it interesting that no atheists have entered this thread. Maybe it's been flying under their radar.
            I know one thing, they think they are never wrong, never make mistakes nor do they hurt anyone, so, they are the last to admit forgiveness is a  necessity for them. big_smile

            1. pay2cEM profile image89
              pay2cEMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Hi, pot. I'm kettle. You're black.

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                Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Don't Hub Angry, EM. just sayin`.

                DJ has a point. And he is not so aloof.
                But you know this already...
                Ironing err irony is such a tedious task...

                Hammer & Paint, Knit-Pick One, Pearl Too.
                James.

                1. pay2cEM profile image89
                  pay2cEMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  I didn't mean to sound angry (I wasn't). I just think it's funny that the main thing that irritates both sides the most about the other is the one thing they both have in common.

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                    Twenty One Daysposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    absolutely correct.

            2. Woman Of Courage profile image60
              Woman Of Courageposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              dj, Yes it's interesting. I agree with your reply 100%. This thread is about forgiveness. Maybe that's why no atheist have entered this thread.

    3. footballgraveyard profile image59
      footballgraveyardposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      I think the best f- word is football. That is Engllish football, so in the US it would be the s- word and in Italy the c--. Now this is getting confusing.

      Let's just ban the alphabet and look at picures. But not all kinds of pictures though. Only the f---pictures if the f is football.

  2. Eaglekiwi profile image73
    Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago

    F u Dj smile


    New spin on 'hood jargin' roll

    1. the pink umbrella profile image72
      the pink umbrellaposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      get hip to the jive eagle....get hip to the jive. lol

  3. SomewayOuttaHere profile image60
    SomewayOuttaHereposted 6 years ago

    ...ha ha ha....FU exes!....i just sent by text to Bob! and John, George, Bubba, Dick, Harry, and finally...the Big Guy!

  4. Daniel Carter profile image92
    Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago

    It's good to be F'ed, according to this guy.

  5. DrMikeFitzpatrick profile image60
    DrMikeFitzpatrickposted 6 years ago

    when you watched the movie "Braveheart" you were introduced to the right of "Prima Noctra" (first night) where the Enlish Lords bedded the new Scottish brides before their new husbands did.

    Fornicating
    Under
    Consent of the
    King

    the "f" word is actually an anacronym. a lot of fuss over a misundertood etymology of language. funny as well. Dr. Mike

    1. dingdondingdon profile image60
      dingdondingdonposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      That's actually an urban myth, the word is not an acronym at all.

      1. Daniel Carter profile image92
        Daniel Carterposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yeah, there is another myth about the acronym being

        For
        Unlawful
        Carnal
        Knowledge

        But apparently some are bypassing what this new "F" word is and not watching the video.

        It will be much more difficult to make up an acronym for that "F" word. Probably won't be very popular either.

      2. superwags profile image81
        superwagsposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        My understanding is that it comes from German "ficken" or "fokken" in dutch.

        I hope there's noone on here from theose respective countries to take offence! You're right, the fornication under consent of the king is a myth.

    2. Eaglekiwi profile image73
      Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Are you speaking of the word 'Forgive'?

    3. pay2cEM profile image89
      pay2cEMposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      That's an old wives' tale. Persistent, but completely false. (Other versions have it coming from "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" ie: premarital sex, which foricators were allegdly forced to wear around their neck like the Scarlet Letter.) The actual etymology comes from the Scandinavian word FOKKEN, which meant to thrust [in a sexual manner].

  6. optimus grimlock profile image61
    optimus grimlockposted 6 years ago

    f yo mama and yo family to lol

    1. Eaglekiwi profile image73
      Eaglekiwiposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Thankyou Optimus

      Same back at ya f.u to overflowing smile

  7. optimus grimlock profile image61
    optimus grimlockposted 6 years ago

    he's trying to change the perception of people and as a society we need that from time to time. Theres nothing wrong with what he did, the f word means forgive. Close your eyes and open your mind it'll set in!!!

  8. workingmomwm profile image86
    workingmomwmposted 6 years ago

    Wow. That's really interesting. Definitely a good message, but it seems like he kind of lost it there at the end in all the excitement.

  9. DrMikeFitzpatrick profile image60
    DrMikeFitzpatrickposted 6 years ago

    you may enjoy Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers "The Power of Myth". Both eye-opening and fascinating how long we all go back in history and what "urban legends" are ruling todays society. Proven, Jesus was not born on Dec 25th. Easter-same. Santa Claus. So much more most take for granted as "truth". Do you know what was going on right before in our world and worship before JC? If you can pry your mind open you may enjoy David:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M35gsedKjMM takes about 3 minutes to start-great history info. Dr. Mike

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    just_curiousposted 6 years ago

    Actually, thats a pretty good video. I've heard of ministers  in the inner cities defending the use of the other f word by the teenagers in their churches. Said it is just a word everyone uses these days. It was sad, to think anyone believed that people had a need to speak so coarsely. Maybe this guy can start a trend and change some of the street language.

  11. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 6 years ago

    Thanks everyone for your input.
    I notice a couple of comments criticising the message.
    I can understand both perspective, but, it's a good sermon in so much as it draws the hearer in. I know it's not suitable to everyone, but similar to NT days, they used common colloquialisms to speak to the (common) people.
    Let's just say, No-one missed the point!
    If this is the only way some would listen to a godly message and hear "forgiveness" taught, great.

    Looks like I finally found a thread not derailed by atheists.
    (ssshhhh, I better not speak too loud, or too soon.) lol lol lol

  12. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 6 years ago

    F... You Mark! smile

    1. vector7 profile image61
      vector7posted 6 years ago in reply to this

      lol

  13. ReMarkaBlogs profile image59
    ReMarkaBlogsposted 6 years ago

    Yes it's good to be F'ed, in the way our preacher clearly explains, because it's good to be forgiven.How is that so difficult to understand?

    I doubt God gave two hoots about it, why so threatened, good people?

    And it's clear that he defined what the F word should be "forgive". God, please F me, F him etc (forgive).

    I agree he is 'pushing the envelope'a bit here, but he is stressing the need for forgiveness, folks.
    It's not surprising that the non churched think christians are so asinine- many of us are. I have been, and undoubtedly, will behave like an ass many more times before I die. (remember-that's a bible word).

    Sheesh! Talk about ignoring the camels but freaking out about the gnats. But to some christians, it just comes gnatsurally.

  14. Disappearinghead profile image88
    Disappearingheadposted 6 years ago

    The Church should just get a sense of perspective a sense of humour, and grow up, rather than getting hysterical that what a preacher said might be associated with a 'bad' word.

    The f-word, the s**t word and others are simply words that in Anglo Saxon times 1000 years ago were part of the vernacular as 'sex' and 'dung' are today. It's only the subsequent chattering classes who wishing to distance themselves from the great unwashed, began to condition polite society not to use these words. They are not offensive words unless one chooses to be offended.

    I've a new offensive word, it's called 'teapot'. From now on 'teapot' is a foul and evil rude word. Now let's sit back and see what happens in the next 200 years.

  15. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 6 years ago

    I wish you would not swear at me.
    Don't you know how OFFENSIVE the word "teapot" is to me.
    I ought to have you banned from the forums for this! big_smile

    1. Disappearinghead profile image88
      Disappearingheadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      smile

  16. aka-dj profile image79
    aka-djposted 6 years ago

    We know what it means, but that's not the point, is it?

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    brotheryochananposted 6 years ago

    I wouldn't want to judge him but i found it offensive to my spirit to the point i didn't listen to the whole thing.

    I used to swear, then i found God and the f word just disappeared. Now it stings a bit to hear it.

    unecessary
    I would leave, and not seek to come back

 
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