That's not even right. That preacher may think he's doing the right thing, but the conclusion he brought the message to will cause needless confusion and manipulation. It would be different if "the f word" originally meant "forgive" and he was trying to kinda re-claim it, but it didn't, and he can't. I think he's another "f word"------a fool. It's obvious that God didn't give him that message to preach. I'm disappointed at the things preachers will do and say to attract attention, instead of preaching the awesome Gospel that needs no embellishment.
It's not my place to ban him from the Kingdom of God! .....The video ends before the final conclusion.....are we to assume he didn't explain himself better later in the sermon? I suppose so! If I were in that congregation, though, I'd probably take him aside after the service and admonish him. Whether he listened or not would be his decision. I think he should retract what he said the next time he preaches, or else step down from the ministry. The type of thing he's put out there is nonsense, and shouldn't be allowed to continue. Perhaps he will ask God for forgiveness, and I sure hope he doesn't just ask God for "the f word"....
I wouldnt go as far as to say its wrong ,but I do agree the Preacher does seem to have joined the 'Hollywood' style of 'Getting the crowds attention' and making it hip. I would safely assume hes trying to usher in the word of God on a level some may identify with more easily.
Some people are sensitive to Church heavy traditions and holier than thou preaching (which in my opinion can be just as nauseating).
Isn't it interesting that no atheists have entered this thread. Maybe it's been flying under their radar. I know one thing, they think they are never wrong, never make mistakes nor do they hurt anyone, so, they are the last to admit forgiveness is a necessity for them.
That's an old wives' tale. Persistent, but completely false. (Other versions have it coming from "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" ie: premarital sex, which foricators were allegdly forced to wear around their neck like the Scarlet Letter.) The actual etymology comes from the Scandinavian word FOKKEN, which meant to thrust [in a sexual manner].
he's trying to change the perception of people and as a society we need that from time to time. Theres nothing wrong with what he did, the f word means forgive. Close your eyes and open your mind it'll set in!!!
you may enjoy Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers "The Power of Myth". Both eye-opening and fascinating how long we all go back in history and what "urban legends" are ruling todays society. Proven, Jesus was not born on Dec 25th. Easter-same. Santa Claus. So much more most take for granted as "truth". Do you know what was going on right before in our world and worship before JC? If you can pry your mind open you may enjoy David:
Actually, thats a pretty good video. I've heard of ministers in the inner cities defending the use of the other f word by the teenagers in their churches. Said it is just a word everyone uses these days. It was sad, to think anyone believed that people had a need to speak so coarsely. Maybe this guy can start a trend and change some of the street language.
Thanks everyone for your input. I notice a couple of comments criticising the message. I can understand both perspective, but, it's a good sermon in so much as it draws the hearer in. I know it's not suitable to everyone, but similar to NT days, they used common colloquialisms to speak to the (common) people. Let's just say, No-one missed the point! If this is the only way some would listen to a godly message and hear "forgiveness" taught, great.
Looks like I finally found a thread not derailed by atheists. (ssshhhh, I better not speak too loud, or too soon.)
Yes it's good to be F'ed, in the way our preacher clearly explains, because it's good to be forgiven.How is that so difficult to understand?
I doubt God gave two hoots about it, why so threatened, good people?
And it's clear that he defined what the F word should be "forgive". God, please F me, F him etc (forgive).
I agree he is 'pushing the envelope'a bit here, but he is stressing the need for forgiveness, folks. It's not surprising that the non churched think christians are so asinine- many of us are. I have been, and undoubtedly, will behave like an ass many more times before I die. (remember-that's a bible word).
Sheesh! Talk about ignoring the camels but freaking out about the gnats. But to some christians, it just comes gnatsurally.
The Church should just get a sense of perspective a sense of humour, and grow up, rather than getting hysterical that what a preacher said might be associated with a 'bad' word.
The f-word, the s**t word and others are simply words that in Anglo Saxon times 1000 years ago were part of the vernacular as 'sex' and 'dung' are today. It's only the subsequent chattering classes who wishing to distance themselves from the great unwashed, began to condition polite society not to use these words. They are not offensive words unless one chooses to be offended.
I've a new offensive word, it's called 'teapot'. From now on 'teapot' is a foul and evil rude word. Now let's sit back and see what happens in the next 200 years.
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