The F.... word in Church

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   aka-djposted 13 years ago

   I was sent an email with this.
   I thought it might be worth sharing here.
   let's hear what you all think.
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8fV7ONAxM

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      Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That's not even right.
      That preacher may think he's doing the right thing, but the conclusion he brought the message to will cause needless confusion and manipulation.
      It would be different if "the f word" originally meant "forgive" and he was trying to kinda re-claim it, but it didn't, and he can't.
      I think he's another "f word"------a fool.  It's obvious that God didn't give him that message to preach.   I'm disappointed at the things preachers will do and say to attract attention, instead of preaching the awesome Gospel that needs no embellishment.

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         Daniel Carterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         So I take it by your position that he's not preaching the word, and therefore banned from the Kingdom of God?
         
         Maybe this preacher's "F word" could be applicable in your feelings toward him?

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            Brenda Durhamposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            It's not my place to ban him from the Kingdom of God!  .....The video ends before the final conclusion.....are we to assume he didn't explain himself better later in the sermon?  I suppose so!   
            If I were in that congregation, though, I'd probably take him aside after the service and admonish him.  Whether he listened or not would be his decision.  I think he should retract what he said the next time he preaches, or else step down from the ministry.  The type of thing he's put out there is nonsense, and shouldn't be allowed to continue.  Perhaps he will ask God for forgiveness, and I sure hope he doesn't just ask God for "the f word"....

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               Daniel Carterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Couldn't help but chuckle about that visual Brenda...
               
               The preacher says
               
               Please God, "F word" me.

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                  Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Think God is much bigger than trends ,no doubt hes seen it all.
                  
                  But who are we to judge that God wont use this (his style) for good.
                  
                  I am reminded of the scripture.
                  
                  "He who is not with me is against me,"
                  Matthew 12:30. Luke 11:23
                  
                  (The disciples couldnt wait to tell Jesus ,how others were preaching his laws...)
                  
                  The above scripture was Jesus 's reply

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         paarsurreyposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I agree with you that the preacher should not have gone so low.

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         Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         I wouldnt go as far as to say its wrong ,but I do agree the Preacher does seem to have joined the 'Hollywood' style of 'Getting the crowds attention' and making it hip. I would safely assume hes trying to usher in the word of God on a level some may identify with more easily.
         
         Some people are sensitive to Church heavy traditions and holier than thou preaching (which in my opinion can be just as nauseating).
         
         His message was a good one

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      the pink umbrellaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      absolutely loved that. in fact, im not a christian, but now whenever someone pisses me off im going to say "forgive you" instead of F u. That way i dont have to walk around all pissed.

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         the pink umbrellaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         now, im going to go forgive my man....excuse me.

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         aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Wow.
         That's awesome.
         Good for you. It would be nice if everyone had that attitude!
         How different the world would be if we all just forgave each other, no matter what.
         

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            Woman Of Courageposted 13 years agoin reply to this

            Agreed.

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               aka-djposted 13 years agoin reply to this

               Isn't it interesting that no atheists have entered this thread. Maybe it's been flying under their radar.
               I know one thing, they think they are never wrong, never make mistakes nor do they hurt anyone, so, they are the last to admit forgiveness is a  necessity for them.

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                  pay2cEMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  Hi, pot. I'm kettle. You're black.

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                     Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                     Don't Hub Angry, EM. just sayin`.
                     
                     DJ has a point. And he is not so aloof.
                     But you know this already...
                     Ironing err irony is such a tedious task...
                     
                     Hammer & Paint, Knit-Pick One, Pearl Too.
                     James.

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                        pay2cEMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                        I didn't mean to sound angry (I wasn't). I just think it's funny that the main thing that irritates both sides the most about the other is the one thing they both have in common.

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                           Twenty One Daysposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                           absolutely correct.

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                  Woman Of Courageposted 13 years agoin reply to this

                  dj, Yes it's interesting. I agree with your reply 100%. This thread is about forgiveness. Maybe that's why no atheist have entered this thread.

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      footballgraveyardposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think the best f- word is football. That is Engllish football, so in the US it would be the s- word and in Italy the c--. Now this is getting confusing.
      
      Let's just ban the alphabet and look at picures. But not all kinds of pictures though. Only the f---pictures if the f is football.

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   Eaglekiwiposted 13 years ago

   F u Dj
   
   
   New spin on 'hood jargin'

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      the pink umbrellaposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      get hip to the jive eagle....get hip to the jive. lol

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   SomewayOuttaHereposted 13 years ago

   ...ha ha ha....FU exes!....i just sent by text to Bob! and John, George, Bubba, Dick, Harry, and finally...the Big Guy!

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   Daniel Carterposted 13 years ago

   It's good to be F'ed, according to this guy.

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   DrMikeFitzpatrickposted 13 years ago

   when you watched the movie "Braveheart" you were introduced to the right of "Prima Noctra" (first night) where the Enlish Lords bedded the new Scottish brides before their new husbands did.
   
   Fornicating
   Under
   Consent of the
   King
   
   the "f" word is actually an anacronym. a lot of fuss over a misundertood etymology of language. funny as well. Dr. Mike

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      dingdondingdonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That's actually an urban myth, the word is not an acronym at all.

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         Daniel Carterposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         Yeah, there is another myth about the acronym being
         
         For
         Unlawful
         Carnal
         Knowledge
         
         But apparently some are bypassing what this new "F" word is and not watching the video.
         
         It will be much more difficult to make up an acronym for that "F" word. Probably won't be very popular either.

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         superwagsposted 13 years agoin reply to this

         My understanding is that it comes from German "ficken" or "fokken" in dutch.
         
         I hope there's noone on here from theose respective countries to take offence! You're right, the fornication under consent of the king is a myth.

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      Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Are you speaking of the word 'Forgive'?

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      pay2cEMposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      That's an old wives' tale. Persistent, but completely false. (Other versions have it coming from "For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge" ie: premarital sex, which foricators were allegdly forced to wear around their neck like the Scarlet Letter.) The actual etymology comes from the Scandinavian word FOKKEN, which meant to thrust [in a sexual manner].

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   f yo mama and yo family to lol

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      Eaglekiwiposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Thankyou Optimus
      
      Same back at ya f.u to overflowing

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   optimus grimlockposted 13 years ago

   he's trying to change the perception of people and as a society we need that from time to time. Theres nothing wrong with what he did, the f word means forgive. Close your eyes and open your mind it'll set in!!!

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   workingmomwmposted 13 years ago

   Wow. That's really interesting. Definitely a good message, but it seems like he kind of lost it there at the end in all the excitement.

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   DrMikeFitzpatrickposted 13 years ago

   you may enjoy Joseph Campbell and Bill Moyers "The Power of Myth". Both eye-opening and fascinating how long we all go back in history and what "urban legends" are ruling todays society. Proven, Jesus was not born on Dec 25th. Easter-same. Santa Claus. So much more most take for granted as "truth". Do you know what was going on right before in our world and worship before JC? If you can pry your mind open you may enjoy David:
   
   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M35gsedKjMM takes about 3 minutes to start-great history info. Dr. Mike

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    just_curiousposted 13 years ago

    Actually, thats a pretty good video. I've heard of ministers  in the inner cities defending the use of the other f word by the teenagers in their churches. Said it is just a word everyone uses these days. It was sad, to think anyone believed that people had a need to speak so coarsely. Maybe this guy can start a trend and change some of the street language.

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    aka-djposted 13 years ago

    Thanks everyone for your input.
    I notice a couple of comments criticising the message.
    I can understand both perspective, but, it's a good sermon in so much as it draws the hearer in. I know it's not suitable to everyone, but similar to NT days, they used common colloquialisms to speak to the (common) people.
    Let's just say, No-one missed the point!
    If this is the only way some would listen to a godly message and hear "forgiveness" taught, great.
    
    Looks like I finally found a thread not derailed by atheists.
    (ssshhhh, I better not speak too loud, or too soon.)

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    aka-djposted 13 years ago

    F... You Mark!

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       vector7posted 13 years agoin reply to this

       

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    ReMarkaBlogsposted 13 years ago

    Yes it's good to be F'ed, in the way our preacher clearly explains, because it's good to be forgiven.How is that so difficult to understand?
    
    I doubt God gave two hoots about it, why so threatened, good people?
    
    And it's clear that he defined what the F word should be "forgive". God, please F me, F him etc (forgive).
    
    I agree he is 'pushing the envelope'a bit here, but he is stressing the need for forgiveness, folks.
    It's not surprising that the non churched think christians are so asinine- many of us are. I have been, and undoubtedly, will behave like an ass many more times before I die. (remember-that's a bible word).
    
    Sheesh! Talk about ignoring the camels but freaking out about the gnats. But to some christians, it just comes gnatsurally.

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    Disappearingheadposted 13 years ago

    The Church should just get a sense of perspective a sense of humour, and grow up, rather than getting hysterical that what a preacher said might be associated with a 'bad' word.
    
    The f-word, the s**t word and others are simply words that in Anglo Saxon times 1000 years ago were part of the vernacular as 'sex' and 'dung' are today. It's only the subsequent chattering classes who wishing to distance themselves from the great unwashed, began to condition polite society not to use these words. They are not offensive words unless one chooses to be offended.
    
    I've a new offensive word, it's called 'teapot'. From now on 'teapot' is a foul and evil rude word. Now let's sit back and see what happens in the next 200 years.

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    aka-djposted 13 years ago

    I wish you would not swear at me.
    Don't you know how OFFENSIVE the word "teapot" is to me.
    I ought to have you banned from the forums for this!

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       Disappearingheadposted 13 years agoin reply to this

       

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    aka-djposted 13 years ago

    We know what it means, but that's not the point, is it?

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    brotheryochananposted 13 years ago

    I wouldn't want to judge him but i found it offensive to my spirit to the point i didn't listen to the whole thing.
    
    I used to swear, then i found God and the f word just disappeared. Now it stings a bit to hear it.
    
    unecessary
    I would leave, and not seek to come back

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