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Inter-faith dialogue; everybody chooses Truth freely

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    Canada is a multi-cultural society; it will be appropriate to have inter-faith dialogues to help everybody find Truth wherever one finds it. Only Truth could galvanize the society to unite for peace.

    Inter-faith dialogue should be held in every locality; it is my desire; it is my passion.

    1. Mark Knowles profile image61
      Mark Knowlesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Except for the evil atheists who cannot reason and have no morals or purpose in life? lol

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        paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        They would be welcome to speak so that they are well-exposed.

        Every religion or non-religion to participate in it; local city counsellers to be the moderators; not a debate but a symposium to help find the Truth.

        1. Mark Knowles profile image61
          Mark Knowlesposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          But the Truth is that there is no god. Science has proven we do not need one and gravity built the structures we see without a Creator.

          Please attempt to use a little bit of reason before repeating nonsense. Thank you.

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            paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            The atheists could speak about their weird concepts in the interfaith dialogue.

        2. earnestshub profile image87
          earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Do you want to see one by Lawrence Krauss? There are dozens of them. lol
          Want to see the debates with Stephen Fry? Go to the BBC.

          You don't really want to know anything other than what you believe, do you? lol

      2. Daniel Carter profile image91
        Daniel Carterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Including athiests is possible, perhaps. I believe that's called a "no faith in interfaith" dialog.

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          paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Including atheists is essential, in my opion; only if they have selfconfidence and they are sure that they are on Truth.

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      paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Atheists should join in the efforts for holding inter-faith dialogue in every locality; to help everyone get to the Truth.

    3. Cagsil profile image61
      Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      And, how do you suppose the openness of those who choose ignorance over learning truth? hmm

      Life doesn't require any knowledge of any god to be understood.
      Life doesn't require any knowledge of any god to be lived.

      Therefore, no god required. wink

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        paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        If the atheists organize the sposium; they could choose the topics suggeted by you "Life doesn't require any knowledge of any god to be understood" or "Life doesn't require any knowledge of any god to be lived".

        Other speakers could disagree with it.

        1. Cagsil profile image61
          Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, they could disagree with it. But, it would make it any less of truth. wink

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            paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I don't get you. Please elaborate.

            1. Cagsil profile image61
              Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              What do I need to elaborate on. There wasn't anything in my statement and/or previous posts that wasn't easy to understand. smile

              Just read the words and accept it. Not difficult.

              Life doesn't require any knowledge of a god to be understood.
              Life doesn't require any knowledge of a god to be lived.

              Therefore, no god required.

              Not difficult. wink

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          paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this
    4. Greek One profile image79
      Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Paar!  You're Canadian too!?!?

      Do you go to the Ahmadiyya mosque in Etobicoke?  I might have run into you at the nearby Home Depot

      1. Greek One profile image79
        Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        are we going out drinking or what??

        1. Jesus was a hippy profile image61
          Jesus was a hippyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The only things I know about Canada are from south park and the buffalo air documentary.

          I must think you are all square jawed wannabe ace pilots smile

          1. Greek One profile image79
            Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            that's about it

    5. Beelzedad profile image61
      Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, and I can tell you first hand some major Canadian cities are a religious and ethnic melting pot, with all kinds of fundamental zealots pushing and fighting their religions and cultures onto society and each other. Racism runs rampant here. Very sad.

      1. Greek One profile image79
        Greek Oneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        maybe in the west.. you guys are nuts out there

        1. Beelzedad profile image61
          Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You got that right. smile

    6. getitrite profile image81
      getitriteposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      So everyone could pick and choose the "TRUTH" that they want?  This would be fruitless.



      Not if everyone can just pick his own "TRUTH" --  That would start at zero and end at zero.

    7. IanRichardson profile image61
      IanRichardsonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      We are all divine beings because we (as well as every other object and process in our observable Universe) were created by, and are part of God. The surest way for all of us to know God is to pull together everything that all of us know and understand of Him. I am looking forward to a world where the knowledge we all have is compared and cross referenced so that we all move closer to the truth. It is one of God's (or the Universe's) rules that we evolve. History shows us that we have evolved spiritually as well as physically. My knowledge of God has grown by studying several past and present religions, holistic healing, meditation, prayer, yoga, physics, chemistry, biology, cosmology, quantum physics, ceremonial magick, folklore, superstition, music and art. I would not say that I have all of the answers, but I know for certain that I understand God way better than I did when I was confirmed into the Church of England as a teenager with only The Bible and prayer/faith as a reference. I am still not able to understand how anyone is able to say that their religion/belief/faith/non-belief is better or closer to the truth than someone elses, when they are looking at God from only one viewpoint.

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        paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You have a right to believe in Christianity; out of your free will.

        I understand.

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    zampanoposted 5 years ago

    When you have faith, you don't seek truth.
    Faith is the substitute. Why seek when every belief is asserted ?

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    just_curiousposted 5 years ago

    Sounds like a plan paar. As long as you keep it north of the border, it's OK by me.

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      paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I think it is good for every country in the West; people have a right to know and have Truth.

      So, the borders don't matter; I can't say it should remain in the North only; it could go to East and South.

      I think it is the moral responsibilty of the atheists to hold such symposiums; where everybody speeks freely for Truth.

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        just_curiousposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I tell you what. You guys in Canada go ahead first. Start in, lets say, British Columbia. Give it a couple of years and, if you're all having fun  then do it all over your country. We'll watch, and if it looks like fun, we'll give it a shot: maybe.

        You should probably start out by going door to door, because this thing probably won't take off on its own. Knock loud and hard. Do not take no for an answer. Make those atheists talk to you. Just keep talking until they're on board with this. I'm very curious to see it get off the ground. big_smile

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          paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          •    Well it should be for Truth, not for fun.
          •    Just give one bell; no knocking on the door; it is not customary in the West.
          •    Just to deliver a flyer; consisting on Truth that one believes in, if the occupant comes out and takes it, happily.
          •    If the occupant indulges in a conversation, happily; then one could discuss.
          •    Else, say sorry and go to the next door.
          •    If the occupant does not come for any reason; just leave the flyer with the door.

          I think it will serve the cause of Truth; you may try it.

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            just_curiousposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Well, ok. I think you'd get more reaction knocking though. Especially with the atheists. Just a piece of helpful advice.

          2. Beelzedad profile image61
            Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Actually, it is only a self-serving gesture to support your belief that you must evangelize your religion in order to make sure you have good standing with your god. This will include denouncing and attacking other religions and non-believers while extolling the virtues of Islam, and having to take up arms when you believe others are threatening you or Islam when in fact they are simply upset by your lack of respect, contradictory behavior and false pretenses. smile

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              paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              It is for this that I say it is moral duty of atheists to organize inter-faith dialogues in every locality of the West; rules could be worked out and fears eliminated amicably.

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                just_curiousposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Paar. I have to ask, because the curiosity is honestly killing me. How serious are you when you push ideas like this? 100%? Or is this a joke.

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                  paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  According to the Ahmadiyya understanding of Islam, interfaith dialogues are an integral part of developing inter-religious peace and the establishment of peace. The Ahmadiyya Muslim Community has been organising interfaith events locally and nationally in various parts of the world in order to develop a better atmosphere of love and understanding between faiths. Various speakers are invited to deliver a talk on how peace can be established from their own or religious perspectives.[21]

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interfaith_dialog

                  I am , as I think, on the Truth; yet I always have to seek the Truth; that is a part of my faith and belief. Inter-faith dialogue does facilitate one to find where the truth lies.

                  The Atheists do claim here that they are in majority in the USA, Canada and other parts of the West. They are, therefore, better poised to organize inter-faith dialogues where religions and non-religions could speak.

                  It will serve the cause of humanity.

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                    just_curiousposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Well, it sounds like a noble cause, to some extent. But it sounds like an initiative by your religion. And should only be for those interested. Why are you trying to argue that atheists should spearhead the effort in your country. You have to realize the suggestion will rile them up.

                  2. Beelzedad profile image61
                    Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Propagandist: A person who disseminates messages calculated to assist some cause. smile

              2. Beelzedad profile image61
                Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Your demand that atheists should organize inter-faith dialogues is yet another self-serving gesture to support your belief... etc.

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                  paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I think it should embolden the atheists; they will be organizing the interfaith dialogue so they should fear in the least.

                  May be they fear that they will be exposed.

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                    just_curiousposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    That's kind of mean paar. You realize every belief, no matter how inane, would be more welcome at such a gathering than an atheist.

                    What happens when an atheist says 'hey, I've got a great idea. Lets all get together and talk about god.'

                    They'd be eaten alive. And you know it. What kind of peaceful philosophy is that? You're just picking, for the fun of it now.

                  2. Beelzedad profile image61
                    Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Again, your demands for others to do what you want them to do is a self-serving gesture to make you look good in the eyes of your god. It is what YOU want, and not what others want.



                    You mean, like how we are exposing the Islamic propagandist here? smile

  4. Greek One profile image79
    Greek Oneposted 5 years ago

    I'm still waiting for Paar to tel me what part of Canada he is in so we can discuss inter-faith issues over whiskey and some halal steaks

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    Since the Atheists who claim to be in majority in the West would be organizing the interfaith-dialogue; the rules would be made equitable to everybody.

    If the rules satisfy the Ahmadiyya  representitives; they would participate as a speaker , else we will listen to others.

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      paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this
      1. earnestshub profile image87
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Show me where atheists claim this. lol

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          paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The extinction of religion?

          Study finds religion on path to extinction in the West
          By Tim O'Brien
          http://www.themuse.ca/articles/45561

          Do you think the atheists are in minority?

          1. earnestshub profile image87
            earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No I don't think they are in a minority, I know they are a tiny minority.
            So does the rest of the world. You seem to be alone on this one.

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    Nevermind

    A minority or even a tiny minority has a role to play in a democratic environment.

    The Atheists are a respectful people; they may prepare a locality for an inter-faith dialogue; especially the affluent ones; if their is a will there is a way. And of course out of their own free will and no compulsion.

 
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