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Seek and You Shall Find....

  1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
    schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago

    If you're lost and actually want to find out if there is a God, like Jesus, then this video is for you: The Case for Faith by Lee Strobel. My latest hub is about that.

    But if you're just here to make fun or try and convince yourself over and over there is no God, go ahead but,

    This is to point out, IF you are agnostic or confused, this is a highly recommended video or the book, I've never seen it put like this before, oh and read my hub, there's lots of good quotes from the movie smile

    1. Jesus was a hippy profile image60
      Jesus was a hippyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Just in case anyone is interested in why Lee Strobels book "The case for faith" would be more aptly titled "The case against faith" you can visit full refutations of his claims here.

      http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ … robel.html

      1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        not surprised

        1. Jesus was a hippy profile image60
          Jesus was a hippyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          If you're not surprised that Lee Strobels arguments have been refuted already then maybe you already knew they were weak, easily refuted arguements.

          1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
            schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            no, I'm just not surprised you have an argument against them lol

    2. Beelzedad profile image60
      Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Here's the thing schoolgirlforreal. You offer a video in which Strobel claims a god exists. You obviously did not put the video up for critique based on your own words and did it as a statement of faith; preaching.

      And, when some refutations of Strobel are presented, you don't even bother to read them and just dismiss them out of hand.

      But, what you failed to understand because you didn't read the refutations is that Strobel is being dishonest in his approach to argue his case. As well, fallacies are pointed out in his logic, not just in his claims of a god existing, but also the reasoning he uses to justify the belief. In other words, it's not so much his argument is being criticized for the existence of a god, but more to do with how he got to that conclusion.

      You say you have found the truth and others are ignorant because they have not done so, ignoring the fact that the truth based on Strobel is just as disingenuous and dishonest as your posting of the argument and follow up remarks. smile

      1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        smile

        1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
          schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I just don't want to argue.

          1. Beelzedad profile image60
            Beelzedadposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            Then, you should have never wrote the following words in your OP because they accomplish little more than invite argument. smile

    3. profile image69
      paarsurreyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      Jesus was not a god or son of god; he was Son of Man/woman called Mary:

      [36] But of that day and hour no one knoweth, not the angels of heaven, but the Father alone. [37] And as in the days of Noe, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. [38] For as in the days before the flood, they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, even till that day in which Noe entered into the ark, [39] And they knew not till the flood came, and took them all away; so also shall the coming of the Son of man be. [40] Then two shall be in the field: one shall be taken, and one shall be left.

      http://www.drbo.org/x/d?b=drb&bk=47 … &f=s#x

  2. Cagsil profile image59
    Cagsilposted 6 years ago

    Seek and You Shall Find That You Go Blind. lol lol lol

  3. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
    schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago

    funny stuff
    not! lol

  4. Stevennix2001 profile image84
    Stevennix2001posted 6 years ago

    In order for one to seek and find out something means that one would have to accept that they may or may not always like what they find. After all, not everyone is always willing to embrace the truth for whatever it may be.

    1. Cagsil profile image59
      Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      People constantly don't accept answers to questions, so they dress up whatever they believe as a truth.

      Proving once and for all, ignorance is blissful. lol lol

      1. Stevennix2001 profile image84
        Stevennix2001posted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Yep, you got that right, as I don't think I could've said it better.

    2. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
      schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

      yeah but it's ignorant to not know the truth for not only will the truth set you free you won't wind up somewhere unprepared!

      1. Jesus was a hippy profile image60
        Jesus was a hippyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        Are you hinting at Pascals wager? I dont think I need to refute that one surely?

        As for you expecting me to have a refutation for Lee Strobel, all I can say is this. If an argument is irrefutable, then noone can refute it. Evidently, Lee Strobels arguments hold less water then a colander.

        1. Cagsil profile image59
          Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          And, has just as many holes as a colander. lol

        2. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
          schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

          pascal? ?? no.
          there's always too sides just like on and off, light and dark, god and the devil, heaven and hell
          one cannot exist without the other!!!

          1. Jesus was a hippy profile image60
            Jesus was a hippyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            God and the devil are a myth. Heaven and hell are also myths, and dark is not the opposite of light. It is what results when you have a lack of light.

            1. Cagsil profile image59
              Cagsilposted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I couldn't have said it better myself. lol lol

              1. aka-dj profile image79
                aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Great post!
                God IS LIGHT, and all those without God, are ...what did you just say?

                It seems your own intelligence is working against you.
                Oh well. I'm glad to be ignorant, delusional and altogether mad.

                1. Jesus was a hippy profile image60
                  Jesus was a hippyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                  God can be whatever you want him to be. He's your belief afterall.

                  1. aka-dj profile image79
                    aka-djposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                    It's IN THE BOOK.
                    Give me that much respect, please.
                    If it were just my opinion, you would be correct!

                    1. Jesus was a hippy profile image60
                      Jesus was a hippyposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                      I know its in the book, but I'm not making the mistake of assuming that people believe everything thats in the book.

                      You and I both know that people pick and choose what they want to beleive is real and what they want to believe is a metaphor or a story to illustrate something.

        3. Stevennix2001 profile image84
          Stevennix2001posted 6 years ago in reply to this

          I don't disagree. I think to not want to know the truth is naive and ignorant of anyone.  However, all I'm saying is that sometimes the truth may not always be what we want to hear.  That's all I was getting at.  After all, there's a reason why some people ask, "What's worse?  A beautiful lie that draws a smile?  Or an ugly truth that draws a tear?"  Quoting the classic "Miracle on 34th Street" film.

          1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
            schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            hmm well, I found out the truth and it's wonderful! smile

            1. Stevennix2001 profile image84
              Stevennix2001posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              Well then you're definitely one of the lucky few then. wink  By the way, did you ever get my response on the "Stallone not directing the next expendables film" post?

              1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
                schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                no! I'll check now

          2. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
            schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

            So you're definitely not seeking...how sad!

            1. Stevennix2001 profile image84
              Stevennix2001posted 6 years ago in reply to this

              I never said that.  I was just stating an opinion that's all, and a philosophy that I highly believe in.  Plus, I was speaking merely in generalities when I said that, as not everyone is always willing to see the truth for what it is.  That's why I said in order to seek the truth, then one must be willing to accept it may not always be what we want to hear or believe. 

              However, if we're speaking specifically in regards to the truth about religion, then to answer your question, yes I'm looking for answers on that.  Probably more so than I let most people know.  However, I know in the end, the only person who can discover the answer is myself, so I don't expect anyone to provide the answers for me, as somethings are best explored alone.  If that makes sense.

              1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
                schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

                Yes, I understand, sorry for misinterperting you.

    3. Stevennix2001 profile image84
      Stevennix2001posted 6 years ago

      Well for what it's worth Schoolgirl, I think what you're doing by telling people about your new hub is a great idea; especially for those that are confused about their own beliefs.  Therefore, I hope you'll receive some many positive responses for it. smile

      1. schoolgirlforreal profile image75
        schoolgirlforrealposted 6 years ago in reply to this

        thankyou steven.
        you're always a good egg, that's why I've always liked you smile [as a person of course]
        I always felt you were curious....I hope it helps too, I'm not usually into advising people but the subject speaks for itself.
        As for your personal beliefs, yes it's up to you, and thankyou for commenting. smile

     
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