Is it true about the atheists agnostics skeptics? • There is no requirement of any minimum level of intelligence or any IQ level for becoming an atheist. All ignorant people are eligible to become atheists agnostics skeptics etc, if they are not one already. • Atheists agnostics hide behind science and the scientists. • Atheists agnostics eulogize scienctists. • Science has never supported the stance of atheists.
Paar. What is up with all of these threads poking at the atheists? I know everyone is argumentative over religion, and the atheists use logic and reason to discuss it. It can be maddening to discuss belief when clobbered with reality. But, this is not a peaceful thread, by any means.
Perhaps, it would help me understand you if you defined how the word peaceful was added to the label you use as a'peaceful Ahmadiyya Muslim'. I grow more confused daily.
Why do we continue to give this person the platform he so desperately craves ?
This is Attention Seeking of the Worst Kind and it is high time we started to ignore his pig ignorant Raving.
If he ever had a point to make it has been lost a long time ago, perhaps if we band together and not rise to the crass insults and do not respond in any way, shape or form like a Fart in an elevator He will eventually go away !!
Well said, and may I say your humility reminded me of Incredibly wretched Clark Bent, assistant spittoon cleaner in the daily Planet, crawling from spittoon to spittoon who was, as we all now know, Superdooper man!
The Islamic propagandist is unable to hold their positions in light of scientific fact and any explanations offered by those who understand those facts and must equate the use of science to that of hiding behind it as if were fabrications and lies to be exposed.
The truthful religion accepts all the facts of science; it is a part of it. The misconception of the atheists is that they think whatever they wrongly undersatand is also science. Atheists are people of doubt; no doubt.
Is it true about the atheists agnostics skeptics? • There is no requirement of any minimum level of intelligence or any IQ level for becoming an atheist. All ignorant people are eligible to become atheists agnostics skeptics etc, if they are not one already.
Above applies more to religion than to atheist and agnoist...only requirement of religion is shut down your brain and believe in some ancestors who wrote some book...very few believers actually question what is written...doesnot need much IQ to follow ancestor writings..does it?
• Atheists agnostics hide behind science and the scientists.
Most scientist are agnostics...few are atheist and few are religion followers...agnostic/atheist doesnot need to hide behind anything because unlike religion they are not defending or selling anything...insecure thoughts like religious one need support and need hiding..so when ever you see someone rushing for ancestor book to quote..bingo..that is where hiding is practically seen... • Atheists agnostics eulogize scienctists
It is duty of every human being and nothing wrong in it..it is better to praise science than praise unproven entity... • Science has never supported the stance of atheists.
True...science has still to prove that god doesnot exist..though its finding puts in doubt majority of religion but that doesnot mean god has been proven to be non existing entity...religion was always man made thing and so would vanish in future...but i doubt science can ever proven god to be non existent...
Atheists- People of Doubt have contradictions in them; that is the reason they are as many denominations as their numbers; no source for Truth and no Code of Life to follow. They never attained a majority and still they are only an insignificant "tiny minority" .
No. It's individuality. Look at religion. Sure, people band together in cliques, but what they believe deviates from individual to individual. Just because you are muslim doesn't mean you agree with all muslims. Simply because you label yourself ahmadiyya doesn't mean you agree with all ahmadiyya muslims. You slapped on a label. It didn't make you a clone.
Atheism is, in my opinion, simply honestly accepting the obvious answer to the question.
As to a code for life. Its a foolish question. Everyone has an individual code for life. It is arrived at through life experience. Through observation and personal reflection. Being religious doesn't give anyone a leg up on morality. It's a hindrance and a danger. You can't turn over responsibility for your actions to the words in a book and claim a personal code for life.
Science is not intended to support the religion/atheist argument. It's purpose is to objectively seek the truth about the universe. The appliance of that truth by engineers enables us to live like kings.
I like their reasons part and that they are supposed to be rational; but their incessant attacks on religion- every religion, with ridicule and derision instead of with reasons and knowledge has convinced me that they are very shallow in their thinking.
I support both science and religion and believe these are complementary, not contradictory.
If they improve as a group; you may see a change in me
Careful what you say ernest. You might read through the forums before you suggest that 'methinks thou doth protest too much' applies to all situations. It's those who profess no belief that post with the most vehemence and frequency on this site. Would it then be correct to assume atheists and non believers suffer confusion and misgivings?
Being conscious and making statements about what we believe is one thing, being indoctrinated in to believing a pile of psychotic bronze aged myths then living your life by them and forcing those you control to do the same is another. I don't see why this should be considered morally tolerable. I don't want my children anywhere near this hate filled crud, bit there is nothing I can do about that, it is all around them. I don't teach my kids to be "atheists" I just don't let others indoctrinate them in to their stuff either. They are free to choose whatever belief system they like. I am confident that no sane human could ever believe in religion without fear and induction.
I have made a conscious decision to oppose those who would try to control others by imposing this sick junk on them.
I argue with workshop manuals too if they are misleading, and when I do I have to support it with hard proof.
I think you have surmised that we don't see eye to eye on the indoctrination argument. You appear to view most believers as if they are all pentecostal or fundamental baptists.
Although I agree with some of your arguments, on some levels, I think that lumping all of those that believe into one pile shows a lack knowledge on the subject of modern Christianity and spirituality at large.
I do not, nor have I ever, bought into this indoctrination argument for the average modern Christian. Spirituality is a product of more than just the Bible. If you talk to anyone other than the religious zealots you will find an 'a la carte' approach to the subject of God because, quite frankly, if spirituality doesn't make you feel good about yourself and others, there isn't much reason to think about it. No one, but the literalists, believe the crap that you find so offensive.
Only the zealots are hell bent on filling hell. By all means, fight the zealots. Religion is a bane on society when it seeks to impose its beliefs on others. But Christians who have studied the Bible and have come to intelligent and thoughtful philosophies through that study and being open to other sources are not a threat, deluded or indoctrinated.
I hope you realize that neither theism or atheism is the logical default position. The answers they offer are too simplistic. Religion, with any luck, will either change or die. But people will always have questions that have no simple answers and the majority of people will keep asking because we know, intuitively, that they are important questions. And we know it is not unreasonable or irrational to ask them.
Read the stats and be honest. The non believers are not the ones starting endless threads flogging there beliefs are they? No they are responding to claims of truth and honesty that are neither truthful nor honest. it's a matter of morals.
Not being hog tied by any system of belief, and knowing the difference between fantasy and reality allows those you abuse as atheists to live very fulfilling lives. A non believer can change every single day, as they are open to the whole world, not stuck in some sub-belief stolen from other bronze aged books of myth and compiled to suit a neurotic megalomaniac.
I always try to be honest. If we're talking about a certain muslim propagandist, I agree; but I'm not sure responding is the answer to that one. I've been wondering if everyone shouldn't just ignore his questions entirely. Maybe he'd stop.
Everything else? I disagree. But there's no solution. The fundamentalists can't be reasoned with at times. I guess everyone is defending what they think the truth is.
It's just that everyone is so passionately opinionated. I wonder why it's so hard to find a meeting of the minds on this site.
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