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Religion is a delusion while relativity is hallucination.

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    jomineposted 5 years ago

    A delusion  is defined to be a belief that is held despite evidence to the contrary.
    When people say something exist despite evidence of the contrary, it is delusion.

    Hallucinations are defined as perceptions in a conscious and awake state in the absence of external stimuli which have qualities of real perception.
    So when relativist say space exist and time is a dimension, is it delusion or hallucination?
    smile

    1. Beelzedad profile image61
      Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Neither. smile

    2. psycheskinner profile image81
      psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Your question makes no sense whatsoever and your stated assumptions are factually incorrect.

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        jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Don't just make a claim. Explain.

    3. DoubleScorpion profile image87
      DoubleScorpionposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      So you are saying that Christians are delusional...

    4. Onusonus profile image87
      Onusonusposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      There is no evidence contrary to religion, hence faith is not delusional.

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      Apostle Jackposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Some art not suppose to go any further than they are in life and knowledge.
      We make choices in life that send us in different directions.Some was not meant to believe,so it is as it should be.

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    kessposted 5 years ago

    Delusion stems from the way of thinking which find its origin in the desires  of an individual.....

    And it is an impossibility for a man to go against his own desire, for they are the sum total of himself.

    Thus A delusion is created by each person unto his ownself, thus each will provides for himself what so ever evidence he requires to satisfy his delusion...

    This evidence He already accept as Truth otherwise he of his ownself will not be able believe it.....And this justification of Truth is further stregthened by his affiliation with all those who have subscribed to the same way of thinking....for they all have the same desires...

    When a man truly desires TRUTH, he then will of necessity change his way of thinking.......And in finding Truth one inherits all things.

    Halucination have their origin in misplaced reality....just as a dream.

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      Disturbiaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      OK, so "time is a demension" is it a delusion or hallucination?

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        kessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        delusion and halucinations are both brothers and both false they are sons of the same father...

        So time is neither one nor the other but actually a composition of both the yes and the no answer to the question..

        1. Disturbia profile image60
          Disturbiaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Delusiona, halucinations... it's time for a reality check.

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    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    [When people say something exist despite evidence of the contrary, it is delusion.]

    Delusion is only one possible explanation.  Almost every post you make contains this mistake no matter how often it is corrected. Just because all dogs are four legged, does not mean all four legged animals are dog.  Just because delusion are assertions against evidence, does not mean all assertions against evidence are delusions. Your inability to learn to avoid this repeated error is one reason I sometimes don't bother responding substantively.

    [So when relativist say space exist and time is a dimension, is it delusion or hallucination?]

    First how is space and time not supported by evidence.  I am currently sitting in space and moving through time.  Evidence seems to support the existence of both.

    Happy?

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      jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      "delusion are assertions against evidence, does not mean all assertions against evidence are delusions."
      Say that to those who wrote ICD-10!

      "how is space and time not supported by evidence"
      You sit in space like you sit in a chair? You occupy space, not sit in!
      Space is the human conceptualization of "nothing". Nothing don't exist, only 'some'thing can exist. Space is negatively predicated, it is absence of everything.
      Is time a tunnel for you to move through?
      Time is a concept to describe the two positions of an object, in case of humans it is sun, the reference object!

      1. mecheil profile image60
        mecheilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        just what do you mean by evidence, then?

      2. Beelzedad profile image61
        Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What, yet another thread on this? lol

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          jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Be like paarsurrey!

          1. Beelzedad profile image61
            Beelzedadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Oh, I see, it is something you are trying to emulate based on another members actions of trolling here. Gotcha! smile

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              jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Thats what ur doing beel, tellin everybody to 'understand', just like paarsurrey, without any explanation.

  4. psycheskinner profile image81
    psycheskinnerposted 5 years ago

    ["delusion are assertions against evidence, does not mean all assertions against evidence are delusions."
    Say that to those who wrote ICD-10!]

    It is a basic logical syllogism as understood by most people over the age of reason.

    ["how is space and time not supported by evidence"
    You sit in space like you sit in a chair? You occupy space, not sit in!]

    Sitting in is a form of occupying


    [Space is the human conceptualization of "nothing". Nothing don't exist, only 'some'thing can exist. Space is negatively predicated, it is absence of everything.]

    Bollocks, space is any area bounded by height, width and depth.

    [Is time a tunnel for you to move through?]

    I don't understand what you mean

    [Time is a concept to describe the two positions of an object, in case of humans it is sun, the reference object!]

    Time is the orderly change of objects within space under continuous observation.

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      jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      "Bollocks, space is any area bounded by height, width and depth."
      Whenever you describe, in terms of length, width and height, you are describing something - an object. These are called "dimensions" and is used to represent the orientation of an object. It is mutually perpendicular. Space is not an object, it is absence of all objects. Hence space is not bounded by anything. It has no boundaries.

      "[Is time a tunnel for you to move through?]
      I don't understand what you mean"
      Neither do I! How can anybody move through time?

      "Time is the orderly change of objects within space under continuous observation."
      You are just elaborating. Space has no reference point. Location is in reference to another object. Whether you observe or not objects move. So it is ultimately two locations of an object, irrespective of whether it is orderly or not.(incidentally order is just another human concept). so how are you going to move through the continuous change?

  5. Jo_Goldsmith11 profile image60
    Jo_Goldsmith11posted 5 years ago

    You have your right to your opinion.

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    L.K.kiruiposted 5 years ago

    You know, jomine, the problem is unhealthy mixing of poetry with physics resulting in psychics. Only poets move through time, leave in space, fall in love etc. Physicists move only through pipes, leave in houses and fall on the tables. It is very strict!

 
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