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Who created the universe, the God or the Buddha?

  1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
    Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago

    Buddhism and Christianity are two of major religions. They both have great and wise scriptures, which teach our earthly people many lessons. However, there has only been one universe, who created it?

    I am not quite sure that I can ask this question, but I am always curious how religious people would answer it.(I believe in science, by the way.)

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      paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I think Jesus and Buddha did not create this universe. It is the Creator-God Allah YHWH who created the universe and Jesus and Buddha.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Just remind me please, who made god again? lol lol lol

        1. OutWest profile image60
          OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Maybe if you understood who He was you wouldn't have to ask that.

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            jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Oh! Please enlighten us, who or what is it? I've never seen or heard from this fellow. All i got is some inconsistent, irrational and contradictory books,with outrageous morals and ethics, purported to be inspired by god.

          2. Evolution Guy profile image61
            Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Maybe if you understood a god is a logical impossibility you would stop saying things like this. wink

            1. OutWest profile image60
              OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              This world is made up of more than just the logical.

              1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                No. It is not. Reality is logical. It makes sense. Your garbage is just that - garbage. You must be very angry that logic proves your god is impossible.

                1. OutWest profile image60
                  OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I think it depends on your form of logic.  I think it is quite logical to believe our universe and life was a creation and not that it "majikally" appeared from no where.  And it doesn't bother me in the least if there is no "proof" because I love God and it would not matter if I was the last person on earth who did.  He has done so much for me so what you believe doesn't matter to me.   The fact that you call it garbage and all that only shows who is the angry one.  I'm sorry you are so mad at this "being that doesn't exist.  I can only imagine how angry you would be if He did". lol

                  1. getitrite profile image80
                    getitriteposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    In other words, you are gleefully pursuing a life into the abyss of delusion.



                    Apparently, nothing matters accept your religious fix. 

                     

                    If a being like the psychopathic God in the bible existed, you would want IT destroyed, immediatedly.  Because of indoctrination, you just can't see how unbearable this being would be.  What you would need is salvation from this God.

                  2. Evolution Guy profile image61
                    Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    You clearly do not understand the rules of logic. I am not angry. "Garbage" is an appropriate word. Nonsense? Less angry?

                    I am not angry at this Invisible, Illogical, Impossible Super Being. I just told you that your belief in it is nonsensical.

                    If you understood the rules of logic, you would realize that this god is not possible.

                    I don't believe the Universe came from nothing. That is what you believe. You just believe it took an impossible god to make it. lol

                2. Lets Learn profile image76
                  Lets Learnposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  If you are truly as logical as you think you would not make it illogical. A logical person truly cannot accept both. You cannot say there is God, because logically a God is not there. You cannot say God is not there, because logically Science (including evolution) never proved there is not God. You have to understand that most of so called scientific  evidences for the creation of the universe are theories...just theories. A theory is never an evidence.

          3. earnestshub profile image88
            earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Well I don't believe in him anymore, and apparently he won't tell me, so you tell me. smile

            1. OutWest profile image60
              OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I think it is something we all have to discover on our own.  I think He may have always existed.  God is so complex for our human minds that we all have to see Him slightly differently because we will never be able to know Him exactly.  A being who can create this vast universe and life is unfathomable to us.  I'm sorry to hear you lost your faith.

              1. earnestshub profile image88
                earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Don't be sorry, I am much better off without it in every way. smile

                I don't find the god concept in any way difficult to understand these days, I understand the psychology behind the belief. smile

                1. OutWest profile image60
                  OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  It's more than a psychology for me, it's a feeling as well as a belief.  I was agnostic for most of my life.  And I not only understand all the "arguements" but said them myself too.   Of course I feel much different about it all now.   Kind of how once you have a kid you feel different about so many things too.  Maybe not the best analagy. smile

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                paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I appreciate your point.

                1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                  Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  It is not really much of a point is it? It doesn't actually make any sense to say this Invisible Super Being is unfathomable and then start claiming to understand what it wants you to do. wink His Invisible Super Being is going to burn you for all eternity. wink

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                    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I think it is one's wrong perception. The Creator-God has set a system; one who does not follow it has to suffer for ones own wrongs, not that one has been forced to suffering.

                    One who jumps from a multi-storey building will die of one's own doing; one has not been forced to jump by the Creator-God Allah YHWH.

              3. Hui (蕙) profile image58
                Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                He is so complex, because he created lots and lots of cruel, bloody and ugly things on this planet alongside he "created the vast universe and life". Do you think he is a good father or not? Don't you think he is watching his loved children getting into bloody fight with a big sweet smile or maybe laugh on his "kind" face from the harmonious Heaven.

                1. OutWest profile image60
                  OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  What cruel things?  And no I do not think He is happy to see us humans fight and wage war.  We (I) try to understand Him as best I can, but I know there are things that I wont be able to.  Maybe it is faith and trust after that, knowing that a being capable of creating this enormous universe and life is doing things for a purpose.

              4. Hui (蕙) profile image58
                Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I was asking Outwest just now.

        2. lone77star profile image90
          lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Earnest, that's a powerful question ("Just remind me please, who made god again?"), but it's a bit non sequitur. Let me explain.

          You can ask a drawing, "who drew you?" Fat chance getting an answer, but as a rhetorical question perhaps said to oneself, it makes a certain amount of sense. To ask the artist, "who drew you?" would make far less sense, because the drawing is "effect" and the artist is "cause." One is the end-product of the act of "drawing" and the other is the source.

          Similarly, asking who or what created God is nonsense, because God is source not end-product; He is cause, not effect.

          And thanks for asking such a powerful question. I hadn't looked at this from quite that perspective, before. Your question helped. smile

          1. Evolution Guy profile image61
            Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            "He" is also an uncaused cause. And we both know that is not possible without some powerful Juju. Which is the point Earnest made and you ignored. I wonder why.....? lol

            1. lone77star profile image90
              lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Very funny, E.G. Thanks for the laugh. And laughter is such good medicine. lol

              1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Your beliefs certainly are funny, I will give you that. wink

                Uncaused cause huh? lol

        3. sarovai profile image59
          sarovaiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          smile smile smile smile smile

        4. MelissaBarrett profile image60
          MelissaBarrettposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Just popping in to say that it is quite possible, scientifically, to accept a reason without knowing the cause of the reason.  Theories do it all the time.

          So the "who made God" argument, while interesting, doesn't necessarily eliminate the "God made the universe" argument. They are two independent questions.

          With that I still neither know nor care.

          *pops out*

          1. lone77star profile image90
            lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Thanks for popping in, Melissa. An interesting point!

    2. kess profile image61
      kessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The universe is not created it just is.....

      There are "other" Universe but they are neither separate nor distinct from the One.....So they all are ONE.

      Creation is that which in within the Universe..

      Maybe you should be seeking the cause of its existence.

    3. andycool profile image70
      andycoolposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Buddha (aka Siddhartha, Gautama) was originally a Hindu human being. He was the son of King Suddhodana. People should know how Buddhism originated and then seek the answer to the original question posted here. Let me help you.

      Buddha's name became famous all over India and Suddhodana, his father, sent word to him saying: "I am growing old and wish to see my son before I die. Others have had the benefit of his doctrine, but not his father nor his relatives." And the messenger said: "O world-honored Tathagata, thy father looks for thy coming as the lily longs for the rising of the sun."

      The Blessed One consented to the request of his father and set out on his journey to Kapilavatthu. Soon the tidings spread in the native country of the Buddha: "Prince Siddhartha, who wandered forth from home into homelessness to obtain enlightenment, having attained his purpose, is coming back."

      Suddhodana went out with his relatives and ministers to meet the prince. When the king saw Siddhartha, his son, he was struck with his beauty and dignity, and he rejoiced in his heart, but his mouth found no words to utter. This, indeed, was his son; these were the features of Siddhartha. How near was the great samana to his heart, and yet what a distance lay between them! That noble muni was no longer Siddhartha, his son; he was the Buddha, the Blessed One, the Holy One, Lord of truth, and teacher of mankind. Suddhodana the king, considering the religious dignity of his son, descended from his chariot and after saluting his son said: "It is now seven years since I have seen thee. How I have longed for this moment!"

      Then the Sakyamuni took a seat opposite his father, and the king gazed eagerly at his son. He longed to call him by his name, but he dared not. "Siddhartha," he exclaimed silently in his heart, "Siddhartha, come back to thine aged father and be his son again!" But seeing the determination of his son, he suppressed his sentiments, and, desolation overcame him. Thus the king sat face to face with his son, rejoicing in his sadness and sad in his rejoicing. Well might he be proud of his son, but his pride broke down at the idea that his great son would never be his heir.

      "I would offer thee my kingdom," said, the king, "but if I did, thou wouldst account it but as ashes."

      And the Buddha said: "I know that the king's heart is full of love and that for his son's sake he feels deep grief. But let the ties of love that bind him to the son whom he lost embrace with equal kindness all his fellow-beings, and he will receive in his place a greater one than Siddhartha; he will receive the Buddha, the teacher of truth, the preacher of righteousness, and the peace of Nirvana will enter into his heart."

      Suddhodana trembled with joy when he heard the melodious words of his son, the Buddha, and clasping his hands, exclaimed with tears in his eyes: "Wonderful in this change! The overwhelming sorrow has passed away. At first my sorrowing heart was heavy, but now I reap the fruit of thy great renunciation. It was right that, moved by thy mighty sympathy, thou shouldst reject the pleasures of royal power and achieve thy noble purpose in religious devotion. Now that thou hast found the path, thou canst preach the law of immortality to all the world that yearns for deliverance." The king returned to the palace, while the Buddha remained in the grove before the city.


      Buddhism originated from Hinduism and became popular since common people are more comfortable in the "made easy" form of religion.

      According to Hinduism God created the universe.*

      *The aforesaid statement is not my personal opinion.

      1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
        Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Right, you reminded me of something I knew. The Buddha was originally a prince of Kapilavastu, which is in nowadays Nipel. His earthly name was Qiaodamo Shida (no definite record about his birth and death year), and married his cousin, Yasodhara, who later became Bhikhuni. They had a son, Rahula, who lived in Gayā city, one of the four Saint places of the Buddha.

        The prince, Qiaodamo Shida, became the Buddha called Sakyamuni under the tree of linden at his age of 35. He has ( I think it should be present tense here because all gods should never die) Elysian Fields, Saha lands, and the most severe Ultimate Bliss-Pure Land. Believe me, it is not controversial that the Buddha controls everything, including reincarnation.

        And for my knowledge, the Buddhism and the Christanity are not compatible. Do you ever hear that a real Buddhist is also a loyal Christian? Then, I am wondering who can control whom, the Buddha and the God? Do not say they are good friends having dinner and conversations together in a world beyond.

        1. andycool profile image70
          andycoolposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Qiaodamo Shida... do you mean Gautama Buddha? There was no Qiaodamo Shida ever in India! smile

          1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
            Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Qiaodamo Shida was the name of the prince, who became Gautama Buddha. So, you do not know this. tongue

            1. Lets Learn profile image76
              Lets Learnposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Qiaodamo Shida was not Buddhas name. There was no Qiaodamo Shida  during Buddha's time. That name originated  later when Buddhism spread outside India.

              1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
                Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                English is after all my second language. I made mistake. The prince's name was not Oiaodamo but siddhartha goutama. He became the Buddha, whose name Sakyamuni. Sorry for this to andycool. smile

          2. Hui (蕙) profile image58
            Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I also forgot to tell you that Gautama Buddha has a buddha name, Sakyamuni.

            1. Lets Learn profile image76
              Lets Learnposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Sakyamuni is a sanskrit word. Muni means rishi or sage in sanskrit. Sakya may have something to do Sankhya philosophy, which is part of yoga.

      2. Lets Learn profile image76
        Lets Learnposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Same about Christ. Jesus originated from Judaism. He became popular because common people are more comfortable in the "made easy" form of religion. This is true with all religion. Who seeks God? Nobody. All those who seek God, they seek something else. People say "I love Jesus". Did Jesus ever ask anyone to love him? He said LOVE THY NEIGHBORS which means love others first. Everybody loves Jesus, why? because it so so easy. Loving Jesus or Buddha or Krishna..it is very easy because they not alive here. Who cant love dead people? The problem is you cannot love someone who is sitting right next to you. That is why Jesus said LOVE THY NEIGHBORS.

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          ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I think you have got a point.

          It is the people who carved god from Buddh, Jesus and Krishna; they were not; in my opinion. None of them created anything; everything remained the same as before their birth; each one of them.

        2. brotheryochanan profile image60
          brotheryochananposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          John 14:21   He that hath my commandments, and keeps them, he it is that loves me: and he that loves me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.

            John 15:10   If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.

          John 14:15   If ye love me, keep my commandments.

      3. a1flowers profile image61
        a1flowersposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yes.. budha religion originated from India.  The one who created God is God himself and they created Universe also. Now it up to you how do you believe in God.
        Its just a trust and your own believe...  Like there is air everywhere but you need to switch on fan to make air feel. Similarly you need to go to temple or churches or Budha to make that feel..

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          jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Oh my gosh! Got any idea what your saying? Do you not even understand what creation is?
          How can anything self-create? Or are you just arguing for arguments sake?

    4. tom hellert profile image60
      tom hellertposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Who says science cannot be correct as well as the religeons. Creation stories sound alot like the big bang to me- god created the universe in 6 days- how long is gods day?
      s for some details there are many differences but I feel they are somewhat compatable- the teachings of Jesus and Buddha. Both peaceful wise men both talk about the afterlife and how to reach a happier world.
      other similarities
      Meditation is a quiet form of prayer.
      The body is a temple that needs to be kept up.
      Spiritual community is important.
      Karma- its good to be good - do unto others as you would do unto the Lord-
      Buddha says enlightenment can happen at anytime- Christianity- all you have to do is believe ask for forgivness and be saved..I could go on but - I shall end it here...
      TH

    5. chamilj profile image61
      chamiljposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I can say only this. Diffidently Buddha not created the Universe because he was a man born in India 2600 year ago.

    6. livelonger profile image89
      livelongerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The only real answer is: we don't know. No one can explain how something can come from nothing. Our current scientific knowledge isn't enough to explain this.

      Of course many of us have our beliefs and opinions, but they are just that.

    7. Lets Learn profile image76
      Lets Learnposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Why cant Jesus and Buddha be the same? They both came for similar purpose!
      Jesus came to correct disorientation in Judaism, rather than focusing on truth and love, Judaism at that time was involved in ritualism. Same was true with Hinduism, caste and animal sacrifice was rampant. Followers of both these great religions began to deviate from the true purpose..Buddha came to remind people in the Indian subcontinent to keep away from rituals and focus on the real path.  Jesus also had a similar role. This will go forever. Even Krishna said whenever there is a need God will keep on coming in multiple forms. They are all the same. Those who are genuine will find the truth in all. If one is struck with stories, then there is no end.

      1. brotheryochanan profile image60
        brotheryochananposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        because jesus points directly to God and we cannot forget the cross or resurrection, which makes jesus living and not dead.

    8. jacharless profile image81
      jacharlessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      In actuality, Buddhism is 5th on the list of major theologies, with a thorough belief in a 'no god' concept. Unlike atheism that protests against the Judaic or Christian beliefs as a 'non god' concept, Buddhism considers every one god, an by many perspectives borders/resembles pantheism.

      The proverbs of Judaism and Buddhism tend to line up well on many points.

      Now, here is the real interest, at least to me. "there has only been one universe..." This is a very odd question of consideration. Should you really believe according to the religion of science, than the very idea of just one universe only is understandable. But, to broaden your thinking, who said, according to the Judaic (and now Christian), that Creator only made one universe? In addition, if you read the Judaic correctly, the text tells you that the one who made this universe did so by his words. Now, that would mean this universe is merely a breath of his mouth. How many breaths do you take. How many words do you speak. How many universes and realities do you create? Now look at the massiveness of this present observed universe and ask that question again. It cannot be answered by reason, by science -ever. If fact no 'religion' can answer it, ever, even with a blip of text describing certain events regarding the formation of it...
      A Rant: The problem with science is its limited thinking and blatant lack of understanding/logic. Science can only believe what it can observe. Talk about contradiction. Science is perhaps the most contradicting application of humanism ever formed by man. By admission, 95% of the present universe cannot be observed, yet science believes in it and calls it many names. Seems science has many gods too, like Hindi beliefs. The second issue is science using the fundamentals of Theos to bind technology to that observation, whereby forcing humanity to nod in agreement and worse, postulate base on very limited understanding even of the observed, and the massacred --err-- dissected relics of human, animal and plant, in a very feeble minded attempt to explain what does not require explanation. Why do you need to know if another exists? Science claims you will never live to see it, ever! Science says after 250,000 years of human existence, we are not even a single step closer to understanding this universe.

      To put it softly, science is very much like Buddhism, very defiant of Judaism and has nothing to do with Christianity. A good place to begin is to read Fritjof Capra's Tao of Physics. In it, he proves beyond belief, that science is Eastern Mysticism -with the addition of mechanics.


      Science has no heart, only metallic and graphite 'evidence' of a world it can never understand using those mechanisms. It is a religion and no religion is of any good. No religion has a pure heart. Not one.

      James

      1. aguasilver profile image86
        aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        But the breath that creates must be determined to do so before being drawn, random breaths will not create universes.

        1. jacharless profile image81
          jacharlessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hello John!
          Hope all is well with you.

          I am inclined to agree, nothing is random, even if reason says nothing is randomness. Every ohm-amp, alef-tov is precisely and rhythmic. Interesting enough are  how meditation exercises and breathing are emphatic with many Eastern philosophies and match the electrical/circuit models within the  mechanics of science.

          James

          1. aguasilver profile image86
            aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Hi James, I am delighted to report that all is fine with me, glad to see you back again!

            I think all we can honestly state is that we perceive very little about the true nature of things, and that the more we understand, the less we project our understanding as knowledge.

            There seems to be a tipping point on 'enlightenment' where upon with a sudden rush clarity floods into our being and we understand that we are just a speck in the pathway of understanding.

            That understanding may be greater than we could ever have envisaged reaching, but it shows us clearly that we are imbeciles in the overall nature of things.

    9. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Well, it's nice to see a variety of gods to choose from for a change even though the choice is limited. Still, can't seem to decide.

      Can we see their resumes and sat scores? What have those gods done recently?

      If you didn't believe in science, would you still ask the same question?

    10. Jerami profile image79
      Jeramiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Who ever did it ;      I want to be on that team.

       
          He hasn't personally told me what his name is,   so I wouldn't wnt to bet my life on it.   


           But who ever did do it ?      That is my man,  or vice versa I hope.

      1. Evolution Guy profile image61
        Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You appear to be very scared.




        Wot will happn iffn u dun choosed the rongun?


                           Izzit gon burn ya fer ternity?

    11. shazwellyn profile image84
      shazwellynposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      two of the same thing, amongst a trillion others smile

    12. Obscure_Treasures profile image60
      Obscure_Treasuresposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Scientists believe that the universe and all the matter in it, including that which makes up the planets, was created in the big bang. Scientists still observe planets and other matter moving away from what was considered the source of the bang. Space and time was created with the bang too.

      Whether your questions are science questions or theological ones depends on your point of view. Many people believe that the big bang isn't a plausible theory so they believe God created the universe, planets, time and space.

      Who made God?

      Many Christians believe that God always existed. He is eternal. So there is no time at which he came into existence or was born. He has always existed and always will. So no creating is needed. No one created God.

      If you believe in evolution and God, then God created the conditions for a micro-organism and later a frog-like thing to crawl out of the ocean. All life, including trees, algae, bees, etc. are related by common ancestry.

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        ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        By definition the Creator God is on its own; not created by anyone else.So, it is not a valid question to ask " who  created God?".

        I agree with you that He is Eternal.

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          jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          So when it is said matter is eternal, isn't it just as invalid, to ask, who created matter?

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            ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            It is not; time and space is His creation.

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              jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              What is this time and space you claim to be created?

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                ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Matter needs time and space to exist.

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                  jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  My question is "what is time and space"?

                  1. A Troubled Man profile image60
                    A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    The distance between your eyeballs and a clock.

    13. Dave Mathews profile image61
      Dave Mathewsposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      The way I see it, God is God but who is to say that God did not ask Buddah to be a spiritual guide for those who would listen and follow. All humans are God`s children regardless of what ``ISM`` one might belong to.

      1. Jerami profile image79
        Jeramiposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        I like the sound of that!

  2. jstfishinman profile image78
    jstfishinmanposted 5 years ago

    Buddha, never claimed diety, but claimed to be a teacher to help others reach Nirvana.
    Christ on the other hand claimed diety when He said " I Am that I Am". He also claimed diety many other times.
    According to John 1:1 The Word ( Jesus ) was with God and the Word was God.

    1. Richieb799 profile image61
      Richieb799posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I always thought this, however on my recent trip to Thailand I witnessed that my Thai girlfriend seems to regard Buddha in a similar way, she call him god who watches over and they also say prayers(she said she ask for foreign husband)

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        lol Did you marry her? smile

      2. Greg Sage profile image61
        Greg Sageposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Much as many faiths do to saints, prophets, and so on.

        I've always found Catholicism odd it this regard... for a tradition born of Mosaic roots, it seems actually more polytheistic in it's focus than Hinduism once you get to the core of each.

        Having friends in each faith and having seen and participated in both, the parallels are actually quite striking although neither side would admit to it.

        No, Buddha quite definitely never claimed to BE God, or to have created anything.  His life is fairly well documented.

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          paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Jesus also created nothing; the universe remained the same as before him.

        2. Lets Learn profile image76
          Lets Learnposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hinduism is not polytheistic. There is only one God according to Hinduism. But that God exists in multiple forms and can be accessed through multiple forms

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      kimberlyslyricsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      big_smile

    3. mischeviousme profile image59
      mischeviousmeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Buddha is a state of consciousness and exists within everone. Buddha in sanskrit means awake or awakened.

  3. hubzer profile image60
    hubzerposted 5 years ago

    From  Research: God did speak world into existence.

    1. wilderness profile image96
      wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If I might be so bold, what was your research?  You obviously weren't there to record the event and the only other way I can conceive of to reach that result is to read the words written thousands of years ago by some else that also wasn't there and provides us with no other evidence than his word that it happened that way.

      1. brotheryochanan profile image60
        brotheryochananposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Good enough for me

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    jomineposted 5 years ago

    Why do you think the world is created any way?
    If you go back in time will all the atoms in the world suddenly cease to exist(especially, considering the fact there is nothing called time in the universe)?

    1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
      Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      It is not me thinking the world is created. It is religions thinking that way. Every religion has their own biggest hero who created everything, which is so confused.

  5. MelissaBarrett profile image60
    MelissaBarrettposted 5 years ago

    Over the years I've developed a very strong view point on the issue:  Don't know, Don't care.  I don't need to know who build a house to live in it.

    1. quicksand profile image85
      quicksandposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You are doing very well! smile

  6. optimus grimlock profile image60
    optimus grimlockposted 5 years ago

    maybe it was a team effort

  7. optimus grimlock profile image60
    optimus grimlockposted 5 years ago

    according the m.i.b movies some slug type creatures created the universe so maybe they created god.

  8. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    To OutWest:

    I suggest to you that the belief precedes the feeling. smile

  9. Paul Wingert profile image79
    Paul Wingertposted 5 years ago

    God and Buddah is like an apple and an orange. Siddhārtha Gautama was an Eastern Indian spiritual teacher. God is a figment of ancient man's imagination to help explain their sourroundings when they didn't know any better. Who or what created the universe? A couple of things called gravity and physics. No need for a creator.

    1. lone77star profile image90
      lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      And where did gravity come from? Or the effects and laws of physics?

      For that matter, where did matter come from, or energy, or time, or even space? Each of these created constructs had a source. I agree that gravity likely came before the coalescence of matter, but there is a whole lot there that had a source, and guys like Hawking aren't talking about it. They're only stopping halfway.

      I suppose one could build a house and say, "No need for a builder." I suppose it's entirely possible that such things could accidentally fall into place. (... not!) wink

      1. brotheryochanan profile image60
        brotheryochananposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Romans 1:20   For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

  10. lone77star profile image90
    lone77starposted 5 years ago

    Hui, from all I've studied of Buddhism (and I'm no expert), I have never heard of Buddha "creating the universe."

    I'm glad you believe in science. So do I. I've studied science my entire life. Graduated with a major in mathematics in the top 10% of my high school class in Montgomery County, Maryland (3rd highest scholastically rated school district in USA at the time). Then graduated summa cum laude in computer science. Astronomy is perhaps my favorite science (including astrophysics and planetology), but I've also held a great fondness for geology, physics, chemistry, and several others.

    From my understanding (and I've studied with a few Tibetan Buddhist monks in Los Angeles), Gautama Siddhartha, who is frequently referred to as "the Buddha" is really only one of many. He was a spiritual teacher who had thrown off the shackles of "samsara" (the suffering of this world). He was an "Enlightened One," what might be comparable in Christianity to someone born again (one with "everlasting life").

    This state of existence is a return to one's spiritual nature, separate from the physical body.

    Buddhism talks of the "non-self" which is the end product of one's meditation. This is the "self" which exists after getting rid of ego -- the center of selfishness.

    This spiritual "self" is a source of creation. This is what in the Judeo-Christian world might be called a "child of God" -- made in the image of God (Genesis 1:26).

    And what is God? No one really knows for certain. Beyond the beginning of this universe, perhaps, there is a source which set everything in motion. I say "perhaps," because the universe may not have had a "beginning" in the sense of time. But outside of space-time, there is a source, and things like space, time, energy, matter, gravity, electromagnetism, strong and weak nuclear binding forces, and the like all originate from this source.

    From my own experience with creational mechanics (causing "miracles"), I suspect that God may be the aggregate combination of all the children of God.

    If this were true, then not only did Gautama Siddhartha create the universe, but you and I did, too. Perhaps one day we will remember.

    But the quest for such knowledge and memory requires humility -- the same brand of restraint a good scientist uses in researching their part of that creation.

    Buddhism and Christianity are two of major religions. They both have great and wise scriptures, which teach our earthly people many lessons. However, there has only been one universe, who created it?

    I am not quite sure that I can ask this question, but I am always curious how religious people would answer it.(I believe in science, by the way.)

    1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
      Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      So, you mean everything is from the source beyond. Then, why did "the aggregate combination", the God, our Father in Heaven, create lots and lots of cruel and ugly things on this planet? Please do not say that the father watches his loved children getting into bloody fight from the Heaven and with a big sweet smile on face!

      I once carefully observed those so-called christians making donation in church. They act selfish and funny. What is Christinianity?

      You are right on "the Buddha did not create the universe". I made a mistake, and you can see my answer to andycool above. But still the Buddha, Sakyamuni, can control everything living in the land of Saha, and the God can also control everything. Are they good friends in a spiritual world?

      We all have material body, all need material things to live, which is the firstmost thing in the material universe. Then we have spiritual life and spiritual joy, and have conversations in material virtual space, like Hubpages. tongue

      1. lone77star profile image90
        lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this


        Hui, some important questions you've asked. I will attempt to answer them from my current, imperfect understanding. Perhaps they will elicit some degree of progress toward enlightenment.

        Things and events are "cruel" and "ugly" from who's viewpoint? From that of mortal human? And who actually did the creation of "evil" things? Could it instead be the product of ego? Ego is that pseudo-self which thrives on being right and being seen as good or powerful by others. But ego is also responsible for the suicide perpetrator stepping off a bridge and falling to their death. Ego is responsible for the public donations of Christians so that others will feel admiration for them. Ego is responsible for the acts of rage when someone else disagrees with their viewpoint.

        Each of these "evil" things may serve some larger purpose for which we cannot even guess. From the perspective of that larger purpose, such things would not be evil, but would serve that more perfect purpose. This is only a speculation, but it is also a statement of humility and not knowing.

        In the Judeo-Christian Bible, there is the story of Noah and the Flood. Was it a literal, real event and worldwide inundation? We don't know for sure. Certainly it did not happen at the date found from a literal reading of Genesis -- 2348 BC. Too much was happening in human history at that time! My own research finds the date to be 27,970 BC, calculated from Genesis. If God indeed destroyed all life on Earth, could it have been for the purpose of rescuing his children (not the bodies, but the spiritual children)? Such apparent cruelty would then prove to be a blessing, for the bodies are inconsequential and the real children are the ones being rescued.

        Concerning ego, there is an old story about a monk and a samurai. The warrior asks the monk to describe heaven and hell. The monk then berates the warrior, calling him lazy and worthless. The samurai warrior raises his sword in rage to strike down the impudent, old man. The monk merely looks up, points and says, "That is hell." Stunned into humility, the warrior lowers his sword and bows his head. The monk nods and tells the warrior, "And that is heaven."

        For me, what the monk was talking about was the difference between ego and egolessness or humility. Ego is a sense of entitlement and separateness. Ego claims things for itself to the exclusion of others. Egolessness allows spiritual awakening. This includes humility, confidence, responsibility and love.

        That some so-called Christians act selfish and "funny" is not news to me. I've seen it all too often. Any Christian who is living for ego is not following Christ. I struggle with this myself. I know better, but the habit is hard to break. One day, I hope to win over that worst of habits.

        There is one Asian-American hubber who became an atheist partly because his "Christian" father regularly beat him as a child. Were the beatings "Christian" or merely the legacy of an Asian patriarchal upbringing? Based on the teachings of the founder of Christianity, I'd opt for the latter.

        As for Gautama Siddhartha Sakyamuni walking with God, I'm not surprised. Even though Buddhism does not profess to believing in God, the state of Enlightenment or Nirvana could be said to be equivalent to that of the Judeo-Christian "walking with God" or "being one with God." When Gautama made his breakthrough under the Bodhi tree he may have done the same thing that Yehoshua of Nazareth asked of his followers -- love one another and give up the false self (master of this world).

        1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
          Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The surmon without the foundation of material facts is just imagination and excuse. A real Christian never has "the Buddha" or any other gods in mind, and a real Buddhist never thinks of "the Jesus", which is called "belief".

          A real Christian will firmly answer "the God created the universe", and so will a real Buddhist. However, in this forum, all so-called Christians (obviously not Buddhists) have compromised answers. SAD!!! lol lol lol

          1. lone77star profile image90
            lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Interesting "opinion." Your use of "material facts" tells me a great deal. Your judgement of others also tells me something troubling.

            Is your interpretation of the ancient wisdom equivalent to that of Buddha or Yehoshua or even God? Mine certainly isn't. In the realm of spirit, it takes humility to be able to see beyond the literal writing to what is true. There is no adequate language for the realm of creation or even the miracle in which I participated on Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles, 1977 (Anatomy of a Miracle).

            Who are you to say who is a "real" Christian or "real" Buddhist? Asking questions is one thing, but making bold statements based on your limited interpretation is quite something else. I still have ego, and perhaps for that reason I am not yet a "real" anything -- a Pinocchio hoping to be real.

            And if Truth is Truth, no matter who has seen it, then couldn't Gautama Siddhartha Sakyamuni and Yehoshua of Nazareth have been talking about the same thing, but from different perspectives and through the lenses of different cultural biases? The audience in India 2500 years ago was quite different from that in the Levant 2000 years ago.

            1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
              Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              To be clearly, I did not make any "bold statement". I just stated some facts, maybe sarcasticly a little bit big_smile. I do not believe in Buddha, either. Please do not understand words narrowly.

              In my question, "the Buddha and the God" are just represents of all gods in humans' stories. I tried to give information that gods are logical impossibilities. But, that does not mean that having "belief" is wrong. Still, a real Christian only believes in God; a real Buddhaist only knows Buddha. How can be "on the fence"? If so, it is logical impossibility.

              All scientific discoveries of Newton are side products in the process that he had served for the God. He was actually a real theologist, and a loyal disciple of the God. He had been drunk with the perfect of the universe that the God created. When he saw comets flying about, he petitioned God to clean them out.

              There are many natural phenomena that humans have not understood yet, but I won't turn to any one god for an explaination, because I believe in science evidenced on material facts. I believe in highly developed pre-historic civilizations and alien intelligence, but no gods beyond at all. They are all spiritual products, symbols that science has not fully developed to explain all natural phenomena.

              Ego is somehow dangerous, by the way. It would close your mind.

    2. Lets Learn profile image76
      Lets Learnposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      There is an important thing Buddha and many other eastern masters said. YOU ARE WHAT YOU THINK YOU ARE. I think all answers end there.

      1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
        Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You are right. Buddha's words are wisdom. However, humans need to move on.

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    I think by definition God is the being who has never been created by any person or given birth by any person; He is on His own.

    Buddha and Jesus were born so they were not god.

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    ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

    I think the Creator God created the Universe; Buddha was not a god.

    1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
      Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You should talk this to a Buddhist, who will answer you. hmm

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        ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I though you are a Buddhist; any this is what I believe.

        1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
          Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Unfortunately, I am not. I clearly claimed that I believe in science, which means that I am an antheist. tongue

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            ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Well believing in science does not mean that one should have no religion.

            One could believe in a religion and science at one time; they don't have any contradiction, necessarily.

            1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
              Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              What does "believe in" mean?

              I believe in science, and also read bible stories, cite those stories in articles, go to church to pray. However, "like" is here absolutely not "believe in", which is a principle, because it is the science not religions to promote human progress.

              By contrast, in different historic periods, religions greatly impeded and even percecuted human development. "Is the Earth the center of the universe?" Therefore, those meaningful words are good teaching in spirit and behavior, but the story is just a story not fact worth to believe in.

              1. lone77star profile image90
                lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Didn't science impede human progress with the invention of all manner of weapons of war? I think it did.

                Didn't religion promote human progress with the teachings of Yehoshua and Gautama Sakyamuni? Forgiveness, for instance, may seem quite counterintuitive, but it benefits everyone in a blood feud when used properly.

                Could it be you've been pointing at the wrong culprit?

                Could it be that the real enemy is ego and not some group or ideology?

                The selfishness of the inventors of weapons of destruction is quite similar to that of the wagers of "holy" war and inquisition.

                Could it be that ego is the source of samsara and also is the "self" which needs to die before one may gain everlasting life?

                I was married to a Buddhist for 12 years, studied with Rinpoche Gyaltsen and meditated many hours on the 12 perfections. I learned a great deal there. I see no contradiction between Buddhism and Christianity. I see no contradiction between science and spirituality, either.

                One key thing that I've learned this lifetime (and hopefully a lesson I'll take with me to the next) is that humility is key to learning anything. I wouldn't have survived in calculus class without it. It also didn't hurt that I had the 1910 best seller, "Calculus Made Easy," by Sylvanus P. Thompson. Love that book!

                The problem with most religious folk is that they follow ego. And could it be that ego is the same monster behind all wars. When they say that their interpretation is the only way to interpret, or that their religion is the only way to Nirvana/Enlightenment/Heaven/Everlasting Life, then they are showing their ego... not their faith.

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                ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                There could be people who claim to be religious but on a little perusal one finds they are not representitives of religion; so whatever they say or do has nothing to do with religion. Such persons could be irreligious in the guise of a religious one.

                Like one could speak of science or eulogize it while one does not in fact represent science.

                The real representitives of religion are the messengers prophets of the Creator-God who received Word of revelation from Him; none of them opposed science.

                I think there is no  contradiction in science and religion.

                1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                  Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  That is becoz u r reilgious innit?

                  1. Richieb799 profile image61
                    Richieb799posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Religion isn't the main cause of wars, it is men who pretend to be spiritual to gain the public's support and in fact it is material possessions they are fighting over.

            2. Evolution Guy profile image61
              Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Really? Science is pretty clear. No god is necessary. None. wink

              1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
                Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I like the peaceful atmosphere in church. Just like.
                In current major peaceful world, some religious scriptures may on some level hold people together. Am I right? yikes

                1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                  Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  So do I. Was it worth the hundreds of thousands of murders to build most of them? You tell me.  wink

                  1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
                    Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Of course not. sad

                  2. brotheryochanan profile image60
                    brotheryochananposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Is destroying a planet reason enough to build society?

              2. lone77star profile image90
                lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Very funny, E.G. I agree. No God is necessary so long as you follow ego. And could it be that ego is the source of all war?

                1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                  Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  No - no god is necessary. Period. Sorry you don't understand science - oh well. sad Your ego says you know something I don't know, perhaps? lol
                  LOLOLOL That you think your nonsense is not ego-driven. lol

                  How little you know yourself. Always the cause of wars - lack of internal understanding.

                  1. aguasilver profile image86
                    aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    So nothing wrong with your ego then!

                    http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_oPviYWGaQ84/SZ4yVxz6sKI/AAAAAAAADuo/I9pCYJ0-mHE/s400/inflated-ego-mug_LRG.JPG

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                ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                This is no subject of science; so science should not discuss it. It does not come in the purview of science, in my opinion.

            3. Hui (蕙) profile image58
              Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I have to make this clearly clear. I do not have any religion in mind. All those scriptures are stories made up by human with material bodies consisted of cells and particles. big_smile

              1. lone77star profile image90
                lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Hui, do you speak from omniscience?

                Do you know for certain that spirit was not involved in the inspiration of any religious wisdom?

                The aims of both Buddhism and Christianity point to a non-physical self (or "non-self") -- beyond ego and all those cells and particles.

                Hui, have you ever experienced being outside of your physical body? I have (1971). There may have been other times, but only once did I have the ability to see clearly everything around me without the aid of Homo sapiens eyeballs. In those moments, I was not a material body consisting of cells and particles. In those moments, I was the true self, the awakening of which is the aim of all great religions.

                The Judeo-Christian Bible talks of this in numerous places. It talks of man being created twice -- Genesis 1:26 (spirit) and Genesis 2:7 (flesh), and even Genesis 6:3, where it says that man is "also" flesh. The word "also" is key, here. It means that man is something else besides flesh (cells,... electrons, protons, neutrons with their electromagnetic plus strong and weak nuclear binding forces).

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                  jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  If you have studied medical science, at least neurology, you wouldn't wonder about out of body experience. At the minimum, let it be known that, there are even drugs that can cause this effect. There is no mystery there, only a matter me perception. Stimulate different areas of brain, you can get any experience you want, including oneness with the universe.

                  1. earnestshub profile image88
                    earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    This is totally true. If one takes MDMA for example the fear of death diminishes and the self is experienced as empathetic and confident.

                    LSD causes more than an out of body experience, it can even result in a no body at all experience! Colours can be smelled, solid objects melt, smells can be seem, sounds become colours, colours become sounds.

                    These differences in experience are all caused by small changes in the chemicals that cross the BBB.

                    I have personally even seen a religious believer who took MDMA who appears to be permanent cued of his religiosity, (9 years now so far.)
                    He described it as losing the fear he did not realise he had until it lifted 20 minutes after ingestion.

                    All experiences are the product of synapses firing, including the process that creates religious belief in the mind.

                    With a galvanic probe applied, a human can lose psychosis altogether.

                  2. lone77star profile image90
                    lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Jomine / Earnest,

                    No drugs involved. No trauma-induced hallucination. No surgery in progress. Merely a conversation with a spiritual counselor.

                    And a friend of my father's did one better. Not only did he see without his body, but related details like titles of books on a filing cabinet. Even though he had never been in that room and the door was closed to that room, he could see the details that clearly.

                    Nope! I don't think any drug could do that.

                    Sorry! wink

                    And I don't think a drug is going to give someone the ability to walk on water or to part a sea of cars on Wilshire Boulevard, Los Angeles. Hmmm-m-m... Nope. Don't think so.

                2. Hui (蕙) profile image58
                  Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Lone, I may not quite understand your spiritual experience, and all your talking about spirit beyond that can create things. If did that experience make you obsessed with Genesis, which I think of as just interesting story made up by somebody? Were you trying to say that people without material bodies are still alive in space. If so, the universe would be both horrible and ridiculous.

                  No omniscience at all. Scientific knowledge is from the understanding of the great nature. The universe is endless, so the understanding will only be endlessly developed, but never be ended. Only God could be omniscience, because it is just an immagination. Anything can be omniscience in immagination!

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    Emile Rposted 5 years ago

    I don't like your options, so I choose neither. I prefer to think that if there is a God, he is the universe. We're simply tiny disconnected pieces of the consciousness that permeates all things.

  14. mega1 profile image79
    mega1posted 5 years ago

    As my meager mind understands it - there is no answer to this question, and there is no need for an answer.  The gods man has created include "God" and "Buddha"  - who embody philosophies that mankind feels are necessary to live well.  As for the creation - Buddhism teaches that it all is and always has been - accept that and get on with your life (in a nutshell)  Christianity and other creator-based religions teach that there is this creator who made everything - as for who made the creator, they're not saying - except that maybe he always has been there - which brings us to the Buddhist philosophy of "is-ness" 

    I always feel that people who like to defend and discuss and argue about their religious beliefs have some hole inside they're trying to fill with "righteousness"  - I believe in doing my best to get beyond that - allow things to be and accept the world in all its weird beauty.  People who have to have an answer for everything are boring, to me.

    1. OutWest profile image60
      OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I agree with you about the fact that no one knows.  That is why it's a belief and anyone claiming absolute truth is plain wrong.

  15. Bill Yovino profile image91
    Bill Yovinoposted 5 years ago

    Rapper Biggie Bang

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    Binaya.Ghimireposted 5 years ago

    I'm Hindu and I think, neither God nor the Buddha but Brahma  created the universe( ha-ha-ha)

    1. Lets Learn profile image76
      Lets Learnposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Why cant all these names be one? I dont understand why people should go on fighting over names

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        ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Due to different languages people have different names for the same Creator God; it is from the attributes of Him that we recognize Him.

        1. Evolution Guy profile image61
          Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          What attributes are these exactly? I understood that your Invisible Super Being existed outside our ability to comprehend it.

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            ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            The Creator God created me from nothing; Creating from nothing is one of His attributes.

            1. Evolution Guy profile image61
              Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              No - it is not. You obviously do not know the meaning of the word "attribute." I suggest you go buy yourself a decent dictionary.

              Your parents created you from a sperm and an egg. Do you know any biology?

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                ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I get one of the the meaning "distinguished character; reputation".

                Man existed even before the "biology" was known; the parents are responsible for our birth; they don't create us.

                1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                  Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  You described an activity - not an attribute.  Saying "god dunnit with majik therefore goddunit with majik is the attribute that proves god dunnit," does not make any sense at all. This is circular reasoning and basically meaningless nonsense.

                  Biology has existed since life began. Whether we know about it is moot. The way life operates and reproduces does not change because we don't know about it. Man only evolved some 200,000 years ago and became self aware some 30-35,000 years ago.

                  Of course your parents created you. Take one of them away and you would not exist.

                  How do you know there was a time when nothing existed?

              2. OutWest profile image60
                OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Are you for real EG?  Your parents "created" you.  Now that is funny. big_smile

            2. earnestshub profile image88
              earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I'm a twin.... do I get two gods? smile

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    deejeenoposted 5 years ago

    actually its WHAT created the universe  ? and that super force is believed to be God !

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    wongomowaleposted 5 years ago

    Buddhist don’t actually consider Buddha to be the creator.

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Buddha never claimed to be the Creator of the Universe; he never wrote anything like such himself.

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    RockerGingerposted 5 years ago

    God. Buddha was a man who meditated under a tree for 9 years and found enlightenment.

    1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
      Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If you learn Buddha scripture, you would know Buddha can control everything. So can God. Then, how does it work?

  20. AEvans profile image70
    AEvansposted 5 years ago

    God created the heavens and the earth for us who do believe. But there are so many theories, it appears to be to complex to figure out. smile

    1. Evolution Guy profile image61
      Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Not really. Just because you are not capable of grasping the theories - that does not mean they are too complex to figure out. It means something else entirely. wink

      Stick with "god dunnit," that is nice and easy to figure out. lol

      Still have not had a clear answer as to how you guys reached the conclusion that at some point in time there was nothing. Perhaps - as you have figured that out - you could explain it to me?

      1. OutWest profile image60
        OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        There is no explaining to someone who doesn't want to listen.

        1. Evolution Guy profile image61
          Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I love to listen. I have listened. You speak nonsense. Utter nonsense. 

          Tell me how you reached the conclusion that there was a time when nothing existed.

          1. OutWest profile image60
            OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            You don't listen because I've never said that.  No one can know the beginning of time.  We all theorize.  And how did you logically determaine there is no God when there is no way of proving He doesn't exist?  From a logical point of view it is 100% possible that He does.

            1. Evolution Guy profile image61
              Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              For it to have been created, there must have been a time when it did not exist. See how using the word "beginning" means something. Before the beginning - it could not have been there, or it would not have had a beginning. See how you are the one making the assumption? See how you are talking nonsense? i.e. not making any sense.

              How did you come to this conclusion  exactly? lol

              Logically a god is not possible. Even your majik book agrees this Invisible Super Being of yours exists outside of logic and reason. You are the one making the claims. The burden of proof is yours. You need to prove logically how a god is possible.

              Go! lol

              1. OutWest profile image60
                OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                So if it had a beginning before God created it what is wrong with that.  And your logic makes no sense.  Plus I don't care to proove anything.  I only say what I feel.  I don't care what you believe or to convince you my beliefs.  And you say logically a God is not possible but we all know logically many things are possible that we would not think are logical.  I think you choose not to even consider it's possible.  Somehow even the possibility bothers you.  Your logic is certainly not logical. lol

                1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                  Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  LOLO Course u dont innit. U int got no sponsibiloiyty wot proob u sez.

                  Of course you don't care. Why would you? You are a Kristian.

                  This is why your religion is responsible for so many wars.

                  You.

                  Sorry you are incapable of understanding logic. This may have some bearing on your religious beliefs. lol

                  1. OutWest profile image60
                    OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I really think you like to revert to the propagana talk when someone presents a valid point and you cannot answer.  I am not religious...and I've said that to you already.  And your war comment is getting old too. lol  I think you are very threatened and cannot hold an open discussion.  Your brand of logic is a one of a kind. lol  Enjoy it my friend because I think it's a convenience way to keep your heart closed and mouth open. big_smile

                2. Evolution Guy profile image61
                  Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I did not ask you to prove anything.

                  You at least now admit that you are making the assumption that there was a point where nothing existed. Or you seem to be admitting it, but your English is atrocious, so it is rather difficult to understand what you said. All I asked was how you reached this conclusion.

                  How did you reach this conclusion?

                  Because your entire belief system hinges on this. This is using logic. wink

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              ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I agree with you and appreciate your viewpoint.

    2. Hui (蕙) profile image58
      Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      AEvans, do you mean God is easily figured out. That's because he is just a character in a story. wink Legendary stories are always figured out most easily.

  21. Jerami profile image79
    Jeramiposted 5 years ago

    GONE   ...    good  night Yawl

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    RAM KRIPAL KATIYAposted 5 years ago

    The thousands of planets,air,fire and water are the forming parts of the universe.The universe is a self created power.The one part of this power governs the human being.This part.which governs the

      human being appeared on our planet in different faces at different places as he felt priority need where to appear.This part power is called GOD.Here is a burning question arises that why we call it part of the power,it is so that till date livinghood is seen only on our planet i.e.earth.Sometime this power is seen as a IsaMasih,sometime as mohd.pagamber,sometime as LordBuddha,&so many as LordRam,LordKrishna etc.                                                                                 The power which commands the universe is universalpower i.e.NATURE.The violation of natures law is a unavoidable punishmentThus we have to follow natures law & path shown by God to make our life healthy and smooth .

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    ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

    The Universe existed before the birth of Buddha so Buddha did not create it. The Universe is the creation of the Creator God.

  24. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    Fred.

    The guy who created everything was Fred Flintstone wasn't it?

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    ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

    Buddha did not create anything; he was himself created.

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      It is as wrong as saying Jesus or Krishna  created the Universes; they never created the Universe; they themslves were created by the Creator God.

      1. earnestshub profile image88
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        and the god was created by the other god before it who created the other god who.....

  26. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    Sorry about my last post, it was Barney Rubble. smile

  27. Jerami profile image79
    Jeramiposted 5 years ago

    Evolution Guy wrote
      How do you know there was a time when nothing existed?


       me ..    can't stay long but wanted to ask ..
      How do you know that time hasn't been traveling in more than one direction ever sense its beginning ?

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    ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

    Jesus did not get resurrected and ascended to skies; he did not die on the Cross; that makes him a truthful existing person; otherwise he become mythical and myths don't exist.

    Buddha, Krishna and Jesus; none of  them created the Universe; it existed before them created by the Creator God.

    1. brotheryochanan profile image60
      brotheryochananposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      how does jesus dying as the atoning sacrifice for the sins of the world make him a myth? Was he supposed to live forever or just appear to get older and die in a grave like all the other people before him.
      the death of jesus and his resurrection is what sets the Son apart from everybody else who has ever lived and clearly defines his deity.
      Hebrews 2:14   For as much then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death.

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        ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Neithe Jesus died on the Cross; nor he atoned anybody else's sins.

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    ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

    Buddha, Jesus and Krishna; none of them created the universe. It is the creation of ONE-true Ceartor God.

    1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
      Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Where is the ONE-true Creator God from? All the gods have strong power, can do anything that they want, then who is whose supervisor?

      1. A Troubled Man profile image60
        A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The supervisor was packaged out in the last reorganization due to cutbacks and now all the gods report directly to me.

        1. Hui (蕙) profile image58
          Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          cool

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        ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The Universe exhibits the same natural laws in every part of it; so there are not many gods; there is only ONE true Creator God.

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          jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          So you have been to all the parts of the universe to verify?

        2. Hui (蕙) profile image58
          Hui (蕙)posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          We know, but where is the ONE true Creator God from? That is the most important and most meaningful puzzle that you religious experts are responsible for solving. ibneahmad smile

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            ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I am no expert; I am open for discussion.

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              jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              When was you ever open to discussion?

  30. earnestshub profile image88
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    It was me, the one true god wot dunnit.

    It's all in my new book wot I wrote as positive proof.

    I left out 14 chapters I wrote where I didn't agree with myself, and replaced it with lots of other goddunnits though as even more proof.
    So, throw away your old goddunnit book and buy mine instead with the newer fresher god. smile

  31. Hui (蕙) profile image58
    Hui (蕙)posted 4 years ago

    Hi, friends, we have another half year past. At the time of Chinese Lunar New Year of Dragon, Please permit me to make a little summary with some questions. Meantime, wish you all and all your families a happy and prosperous new year, or a dragon year, if you'd like to say.

         Sometimes, I pray on Buddha, but just a pure move for a peaceful mind and a moment. Hornestly, I never believe in any gods and any supernatural power, which are simply imagined stories by people thousands of years ago. The current humans were so weak facing up to the wild nature that they turned to supernatural power behind and beyond to explain those mysterious and horrible phenomena, based on which the theory of destiny was born. Their imaginations and tales were handed down from generations to generations, were contantly complemented and perfected, and finally became fixed and clear doctrines to be followed by people who had already developed to some extent but still in a weak state, such as people in middle age. This is "religion".
         
         Because different people live in different parts of the Earth, they have developed their respect religions, and have their own origins and ancestors and the biggest heros. Are all kinds of religions compatible?

         With time, humans become stronger and stronger. They overcome and rebuild the nature by their wisdom and strength, and of course they get punished by the nature due to excess exploitation and use. With the growth of selves, humans become more and more fearless to the nature, and many phenomena that used to be mysterious and horrible become clear without any surprise. Therefore, the essential position of religions in societies or in the whole world had been denied, while religious believes have become folk activities. Although most ordinary publics keep their religious believes, humans cannot obtain any development and progress based on those doctrines. Undoubtedly, many religious doctrines are insightful and enlightful, but it is because they are from the intelligence of our ancestors. Why do we have to deny the wisdom of our human ancestors themselves but turn to those so-called gods that don't actually exist for protection? If people today still stick to those supernatural power, they would be so so stupid because they are living in a condition that is a million times better than that in which their ancestors lived, but they have not got any change and growth in thinking way compared with their ancestors. Sorry about this!

         Indeed, there still exist many unexplainable phenomena on Earth, but I prefer to believe in highly developed pre-historic civilizations (the Earth is already 5 billion years old, but only has 5 thousand years human history, and only about 2 thousand years with written words. Can we rule out that possiblity that one or more civilizations used to show up and then disappeared due to some material reasons, such as earthquake, or just moved to another plannet?). I also believe in allien intelligence. Why not? After all, the universe is considered limitless?

         To be clear and fair, I don't refute that other people believe in gods. I just spoke out my own real ideas, but I want to remind people that it is ourselves, humans, who create and decide our lives, and pinning our hope on gods that only reside in minds of humans is just wasting time.

         Good luck for a new year! big_smile

  32. cprice75 profile image83
    cprice75posted 4 years ago

    The Buddha was a man, Siddhartha Gautama, whom the Buddhists believe reached enlightenment.  As initially a man, I would find it hard to believe that Buddhists think he created the world.  I don't claim to be an expert on Buddhism, however.

  33. DzyMsLizzy profile image92
    DzyMsLizzyposted 4 years ago

    Regardless of your belief system or lack thereof, the name given to the  "creator of the universe" are but differing names for the same concept.  There is also confusion between the concept of a master creator of the universe, and highly spiritual people who actually existed here on Earth. 
    The question, as it is phrased, is more akin to asking, "Who created the universe, god or Mother Theresa?"  It's apples and oranges.

  34. Jerami profile image79
    Jeramiposted 4 years ago

    There is but one creator, who ever or whatever this creator is;  and 1000's of   mis-(?)conceptions ,  as to this creator's place  in  his/its creation.

       No matter who we are; No matter what we believe the creator to be, We know very little of that which is outside of our understanding.

      We can only attempt to describe that which we have seen and how it affects us. I think all religions are doing that.?   In fact; ....
      All groups of people, (and small families)  are doing that.

  35. Greek One profile image79
    Greek Oneposted 4 years ago

    Chairman Mao created the universe through an executive order.

    After which, he turned himself into a cat, and renamed himself Chairman Meow

    http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100611133012/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/e/e8/Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg/250px-Mao_Zedong_portrait.jpg

    1. DzyMsLizzy profile image92
      DzyMsLizzyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Hey there, Greek One--

      ROFLMAO!!  Good one!

 
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