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Do you believe in God? If not What do you believe in?

  1. Smart is Good profile image77
    Smart is Goodposted 5 years ago

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    I'm not religious but I was brought up in a catholic family. I developed my own thought and points of view and I don't think I fit in religion. I just wanted you to share what your thoughts are on religion.

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      seatle67posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      There are some problems in our life but i can tell you that is just a challenge. A challenge from "GOD". God wants to know if you have strong faith on Him. If you read a bible you will know many thing about God.

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I believe in the Creator God who has no wife, no son and no daughter.

      1. OutWest profile image61
        OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        But many children. big_smile

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          ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No physical children the Creator God has; He does not need to.The offspring are only for the mortals for continuity of life; the Immortal need not.

          1. OutWest profile image61
            OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Are we not His children?

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        seatle67posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        He has a children. But His children are those who believe in Him.

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          So those who don't know about him, or aren't as educated as you and thereby don't have your religion,  all die in the fires of hell, or get torn limb from limb by a flying tooth fairy?

          Am I close? smile

    3. Shinkicker profile image91
      Shinkickerposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I suppose I'm agnostic. We just don't know do we? And never will whilst we're alive.

      1. aguasilver profile image88
        aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I think the general idea is to try and make a decision before we find out whether the decision we did not take was the wrong one!

        smile

        1. Evolution Guy profile image61
          Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Still with the fear mongering huh? I can smell the fear through my screen. sad

          1. aguasilver profile image88
            aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No fear there BB, least not from my keyboard, what would anyone have to fear?

            If there is nothing after life, then there is nothing, nothing to fear, nothing to enjoy, just nothing.

            If there is something else after this life, then there is something, something to fear, something to enjoy, but something.

            Me, I do not fear either scenario, as for anyone else, they need to decide for themselves whether the do or do not feel fear at he thought of leaving this mortal coil.

            How do you stand on the issue?

            1. aguasilver profile image88
              aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Sorry EG, I thought you were in Beezlebub another persona, my apologies Mark, it's hard to keep track!

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          Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          So, what you're saying is religion is like russian roulette? You think one is right, not sure which one. You just grab one and hope for the best?

          1. aguasilver profile image88
            aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Not quite that simple.

            What I am saying is that NOT making a decision about something so relevant is kinda dumb.

            If one decides there is no God, then ignoring the whole religion thing is the way to go, for they will not want to waste their only life arguing about something they are certain does not exist.

            Why would they?

            But for someone who is not sure that God does NOT exist.... then I suggest they make the effort to get one side of the fence or the other, that's all, no Russian roulette.

            Indeed not being sure but still pulling life's trigger with uncertainty would be more like Russian roulette!

            What I suggests, asks the unsure to examine the gun and see where the bullet may lie before putting it to their head.

            For me, I came to faith in Christ and unloaded the gun, now the gun is just a reminder of when I used to play Russian roulette with my eternity.

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              Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I suppose that's one way to look at it. The way I see it is there is no way to make an informed decision. All of the religious claim truth, but they all disagree.

              I'm not unsure. I'm completely at peace with the question. Yes, it is a question; but I assume that if there is no god it doesn't matter. If there is a God, then I am in the only place I could logically be expected to be at this moment. If there is a God and we are made in his image he could surely understand.

              The question of eternity doesn't cause me any consternation. Hell makes no sense. But if there were a God and hell was an option, would I want to spend eternity with a being that consigned people to it because he chose not to provide concrete information so humanity could make informed choices? Probably not.

              Whatever awaits one, awaits all. It's the only equitable answer.

              1. aguasilver profile image88
                aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                That's the 'Kismet' approach, 'Que sera, sera' and if you are content to wait and see, so well and good.

                The item that made me decide to investigate fully, was the statement "I am the way the light and the truth, and no man (or woman) will come to the Father except through me"

                Big statement, and not one that I could dismiss unless I could definitely dismiss it.

                The more I delved trying to establish that it was not relevant to my life, temporal or eternal, the more I realised that it was.

                I would hope that, in the end result, God would judge people in the way you hope He will, but having read the 'small print' can see some serious difficulties in assuming that.

                God (for a start) does not think as we do, He tells us that His ways are NOT our ways, He may have created us in His image, but as a proficient Photoshop user, I can tell you that I can corrupt, change any image you give me, in other words, just because we started off in His image, does not mean we are a reliable guide as to what God thinks or how He will act in things.

                God is JUST...... not FAIR.

                You and I would probably allow someone to spend eternity with us because they shared their sweets with us in the fourth grade, or stopped the bully picking on us in the changing rooms, but I suspect God is looking for something deeper to decide upon.

                God looks at our heart, at how we have lived, whether we have lived for Him, or US.

                Now you may think that unreasonable, that He demands we live for Him, not ourselves, but from Gods perspective, seeking to share His creation for eternity with His people, knowing WHO His people are is kinda important, so we get this opportunity to decide whether we want to be His people or not.

                That's what we are deciding, and if someone decides that under those constraints they do not wish to spend eternity with God, so well and good, He will oblige them.

                Now I cannot comment on where folk who reject God would spend their eternity, but it would OBVIOUSLY be somewhere that God did not frequent, after all, those folk would not want God there anyway, so imagine for yourself what that would relate to.

                For my imagining I looked at what God had created, then looked at what man had created from what God had given us as building blocks, and decided man made bad things more often than he created good ones.

                So, take one space, subtract what God created, leave behind what man has created (from Gods materials) and (for me) I could see what eternity without God could be like.

                But that was not my deciding factor, for me the deciding fact was that God is really kinda neat to be around once you get to know Him, plus He tends to deal with all those bad aspects of your life that previously one struggled with.

                I enjoy being with Him, and serving Him ,and knowing that it's only going to get better as I learn how to do His stuff more.

                1. lone77star profile image92
                  lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Awesome, John. That really wakes me up!

                  The founder of Christianity talked frequently about the place of "wailing and gnashing." As a child, I long wondered what this could mean. My "hellfire and brimstone," Southern Baptist minister grandfather did not answer this question to my satisfaction. I studied science and many other religions before I came to my present, and as yet imperfect understanding.

                  In a purely "action-reaction" world of Newtonian physics, blood feuds are a perfect example of "wailing and gnashing." The wailing of the victims of violence, and the gnashing of the teeth of the perpetrators of violence. Fear and anger. All too frequently, the wailers of yesterday become the perpetrators of tomorrow.

                  Would civilization last without a spiritual aid? Who knows? There's a very strong possibility that it wouldn't. Once such spiritual aid is withdrawn, all those left on Earth would be left to the purely physical law of action-reaction. One breakdown in the infrastructure of civilization and humanity might not be able to recover because of the "wailing and gnashing" factor. Without the transcendent actions of forgiveness and unconditional love for all, humanity would likely fall into perpetual fighting on the edge of brutal survival.

                  That's during any lifetime. Between lives, each individual soul would likely find no solace or guidance, but would be left to the nightmares of their own creation. As a sleeping immortal, such dreams would be powerful and painful. And there would remain the inability to wake up unless one is reborn into a new Homo sapiens body.

                  In a few million years, as the sun uses up more of its hydrogen and becomes more chemically rich with elements like lithium, the temperature on Earth will rise significantly. If humanity has not killed itself out long before this, the incessant rise in temperature will ultimately kill all life on Earth, making it into a lake of fire. From then on, the souls would never have a chance to wake up from their nightmares. Homo sapiens would have disappeared, and with them, all chance of the souls' own awakening.

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                  Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  It isn't a question of what will be, it is a statement of what is. We all see how the world is. The question, to me, is whether I am going to make things up, or not.

                  Almost everyone has experienced spiritual moments. But, those moments for me do not support anything as presented by religion. They are completely contrary to the concept, to be honest.

                  My point is not to trivialize your belief system. It is to say that religion attempts to trivialize the experiences of others on the topic. My non belief in your god is not a denial, it is an affirmation of what I know to be truth. When religion talks of hell it is an insult to my truth, just as you consider mine an insult to yours. The difference is mine is not presented in the form of a gentle threat if you don't agree.

                  1. aguasilver profile image88
                    aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Emile, I do not consider what you state to be a denial of MY religion, 'cos it ain't MY anything, I have no possession over it!

                    If you have found your truth, that's great, I will not attempt to challenge what you know to be true, it's exactly in the knowing the truth that we are set free, i.e. whatever you believe to be true will set you free from indecision and vagueness, both of which bind people in the lives they choose to lead.

                    As for gentle threats of hell, well if what I describe sounds like hell to someone, then so be it, for to any avowed God hater, total separation from all things associated with God should sound like heaven!

              2. lone77star profile image92
                lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                God "consign" you to hell? Emile, please! God does no such thing. You consign yourself; God is only giving you a way out.

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                  Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  In your imagination. My question is, why is your mind so dark? I would never wish that on you or any other.

                  1. aguasilver profile image88
                    aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    You get on an small plane, half way through the flight the Captain informs you that the plane will crash in a few minutes, and offers you a parachute.

                    Is this in his imagination?

                    Is his mind dark?

                    Or is he trying to offer you a safe way to get back to safety alive?

                    Perception, it's all a matter of perception, if you perceive no threat, you cannot see any threat.

                    If you were on that plane with a small child, say three years old, would they understand the danger?

                    So experience can allow others to be able to offer sound advice to those who for whatever reason, cannot recognise the danger.

                    I would say that NOT informing someone of the danger was a more despicable action... imagine, the Captain tells you 'Don't worry, there is no danger' because he is blind to the danger himself, or thinks that telling you the danger exists would be 'threatening you' into wearing a parachute.

                    Take the parachute (after all it's free) or do not accept the parachute, but please stop shooting the messengers.

      2. OutWest profile image61
        OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That is true, but some have felt Him and feel that is the evidence they needed.

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      viveksjatposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      come to india.
      easiest way to find GOd

      1. lone77star profile image92
        lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Thank you, Viveksjat. Since moving to the Philippines from USA, I've been meaning to do more traveling. Perhaps some day I will travel to that beautiful land.

      2. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yep!
        their are so many to choose from! lol

    5. mdcarroll678 profile image60
      mdcarroll678posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I kinda adhere to the Christian values of life. However, I draw on elements from Buddhism for experiential aspects. I think there is an element of truth in all thoughts/beliefs. Just have to know which one is the most correct.

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      CollBposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes I most certainly believe there is a God out there in the outer realms of the universe.

      His presence manifests Himself in all that I see around me - in the natural beauty of the earth, the people that I see daily and just life.

      However, we all believe what we believe through the influences of those we know and if a person is a non believer, that is a choice which is just as valid.

      1. Evolution Guy profile image61
        Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Does that mean beleebin nonsense is as good as being rational an ur god int burning non beleebers fer not beleebin?

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          CollBposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Hi Evolution Guy, my God is a Christian God and if you're referring to the 'nonsense' that rational beings see Christian doctrines as being, then the good, moral doctrines Jesus teaches, form a part of this 'nonsense', non believers see Christians as believing.

          Each to their own and it takes faith and a deep understanding of the existence of God to see that Christian doctrines make sense.

          1. Evolution Guy profile image61
            Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            This is why ur religion causes so many wars. Deep understanding of garbage? lol Zat so innit?

    7. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      That's ironic, I couldn't find a religion that fit my own thoughts and points of view, troubled as they are.

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      Mohammad Wasimposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I also do not believe the God which is mentioned and introduced by the world's different religions.
      It seems to me that the prophets personally have seen the God and also got massages to deliver to his believer. But ,why prophets did not say, how he looks like ?
      I asked my self. Why God gave different books to different prophets to create dispute among the believers.
      The most interesting thing is that the prophets of all existing religions have different God in different name.
      Every religions have his own philosophy and they are not ready to accept to each other. Spreading hate and war against each other.
      Do you think, the God can do such a evil things ? I am not ready to believe such a God.
      I believe a super power which is invisible. Our eyes can not see him but
      you can see his reflection on his creation.human being , animals, creatures,
      birds, sharks, delfins and other varieties of fishes under the water. How beautiful these are.
      Look a babies. How babies develop in the womb of women, animals and in eggs . Millions of human being in this world but every single face is different from other. How great Architect will be the creator or say Master. 
      We can see his reflection or mechanism in his each and every creation.
          Religions stories regarding God is like the story of " Alibaba and forty thieves " 
      My believe is on a super power and it is invisible . He do not need any thing from us. Our brain has not such a capacity to understand and to sketch his physical structure. Only to say , thank you my master is enough for our own consulation.

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I'm not sure what our brain's capacity has yet to show us, especially i=when one considers those with amazing mental powers such as the many savants currently being seen by all of us on documentaries. Our capacity may be huge.
        One capacity it is known to have is fear of death, thus religiosity is a part of the brain as well, although un-scientifically it could be called the ancient or lizard brain, still intact at the top of the spinal cord. We could even watch "god" doing his stuff with an MR, trying to douse the fear with whatever is at hand no matter how far-out-eum it is, even to the extent of believing a bunch of goat herders who were talking to people even more ignorant about the self than they were.
        Religion is fluff, it blows away at the breeze of truth or the moment any light is shone on it

        1. Jerami profile image79
          Jeramiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I'm not sure what our brain's capacity has yet to show us.



          ==== 


            Me we do not know nuttin about our mental capasity.

            If we could all role up the powers of our mental capasities up into one little ball.  I think that this would be equal to those that are poswssed by God. 

              A double minded person never gets what they are wanting cause they haven't decided yet what they wnt.

            Whenever (if it ever does) the whole population focuses upon one thing;  it will de done. cause as you say we eash have the power to say what is reality.

             Sooooo   lets  come to one mind and let it be so!


             The human mind is a powerful thing.   divided we fall.

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      FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      GOD  IS  A  CUTE  REPLACEMENT  FOR  IGNORANCE //NO KNOWLEDGE /NO FACT....I DONT HAVE  THE  INFO  HENCE ,,,ITS  ALL  GOD
      THERE  HAS  2  BE  SOMETHING  SAID  FOR  THE FACT THAT  THE  WORLDS  MOST  PROFOUND  THINKERS  OR  OUR  REALLY  PROFOUND///BRIGHT FRIENDSOR MINDS  R  ATHEIST /AGNOSTIC/HUMANIST
      THE  UNINFORMED  SUBSCRIBE  TO  ALL  THEISMS 2FILL  THE  VACUUM OF NOINFO

      1. Jerami profile image79
        Jeramiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        there is no cure for ignorance.

           We were all born with it and we will all carry it to our graves.

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          True dat! Not a bad idea spending one's life learning and knowing as much as we can though. smile

          1. Jerami profile image79
            Jeramiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            King Soloman is said to have been a smart man.

               All is vanity!

            1. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Agreed. If I continue to learn at the end of it all I know that I will know nothing..... still, but that nothing is a lot to fit in a lifetime. smile

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      FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      WHEN  UVE  OT GOTTEN  AROUND  TO  SOURCING  FACT / INFO  THEN  THE  FACILE FILLIN  IS  ..MR GOD APPARENTLY

    11. Utkarsh raj profile image76
      Utkarsh rajposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I don't think the almighty is anywhere in the domain of the religion. He is free and far more deep to understand then the religion. Every Human somewhere in his lifetime journey realizes that there is a power that is controlling everything there is something beyond perception that punishes for his/her  mistakes. God can be felt in every realm of life from Science to History. From religion to Medicines. From the Quanta to the Cosmos.

  2. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    Smart is good, depending on the definition of smart. That could be a religion in its own right.

    1. lone77star profile image92
      lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Religion is about connections to God or spiritual growth (which is basically the same thing for those religions not explicitly discussing God).

      Smart can be good so long as you don't blind yourself with your smarts. If you think you know something before you actually do, then you blind yourself. That's why scientists use restraint in their research (not all the time, but when they make progress, they do).

      But "smart" will never be a religion no matter which current definition you take of the word. You could make up a new definition, but instead wouldn't it be better to make up a new word with the unique new definition?

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        FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        KNOWLEDGE VACUUM  IS THE TRAMPOLINE  FOR GODDISM

  3. maplethorpej profile image85
    maplethorpejposted 5 years ago

    I'm agnostic, which basically means I claim that there is no way of knowing. I believe in some sort of higher power, though that may simply be consciousness itself.

    Do we go somewhere after we die? Sure, because nothingness does not exist. Do our personalities stay intact? That, I don't know.

    1. oubraham profile image60
      oubrahamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

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      1. Evolution Guy profile image61
        Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Kunt innit, Like wot Jeebus sed.

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Holy bulldust!

          Have we got another bandwidth abuser here or what?

          If anyone reads that much religious crud on a forum I'm gonna lengthen my hubs to half a million words!
          Jeeze!
          Talk about flogging religion on a forum, this one thinks he has the same coverage as the six o'clock news! lol

          1. aguasilver profile image88
            aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Worst of all Earnest, the presentation is like a brick wall of text, so there is no way anyone could possibly read what he says, even if they wanted to.

            I think context is not a word they are familiar with!

            1. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              You may recall we have a relatively new christiam contributor here who does the same thing.

              The reception from her peers was less than enthusiastic as I recall. smile

  4. Rosie2010 profile image84
    Rosie2010posted 5 years ago

    I was also brought up a catholic, baptized and confirmed, went to catholic schools from kindergarten to university.  I'm no longer a devout catholic and no longer believe in organized religion.  I don't go to church regularly, but I still do once in a while, and I still consider myself a catholic.  I believe in God, and will always believe in God.  Everyday when I wake up, I thank God for giving me another day to live.  And before I go to sleep, I thank God for a wonderful day, even if it was not so wonderful.

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      FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      CAN I  BE  FACETIOUS....
      WHEN  I  WAKE  I THANKMY  GRANDPARENTS,,  FOR  THEIR  NON  CANCER  GENES,,,AND  MY  DAD FOR INCULCATING  A  HEALTHY  LIFESTYLE  IN  HIS  OFFSPRING.....LOTS  OF  VEG  FRUIT  WATER  FISH  CHICKEN...NO DRUGS..NO  ALCOHOL;;CHOICE
      B4  I  SLEEP  I PLAN  MY TO DO FORNEXT  WORKING DAY.

  5. R.S. Hutchinson profile image85
    R.S. Hutchinsonposted 5 years ago

    My GF and I broke up because of religious differences....

    She thought she was God and I disagreed.

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol lol

      I think I may know her! lol

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    Sherlock221bposted 5 years ago

    I would consider myself an atheist, because there seems little room in our understanding of how the universe works for God to exist.  Evolution is fact, and we now have a working model of how the universe developed right back to the time of the Big Bang.  God is no longer needed as an explanation.  Also, there has never been any evidence of the existence of God, only belief, which is just not good enough for someone who needs proof.  The history of religions is also understood and it can be seen that they are all manmade, with nothing supernatural as their cause.  So I am left with no other option but to conclude that gods are only ideas within the human mind.  This allows for no ultimate purpose to life.  And the fact that the mind is a product of the body would not allow for an afterlife, because the death of the brain will mean the end of the mind it creates.  I find this realisation very depressing, nevertheless, I think it would be vanity to deny the evidence in the hope that my fears could be overcome.

    1. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Well said. smile
      When the body dies, that is the end of the god belief right there.

      No oxygenated blood to the brain... no more god. smile

      1. Jerami profile image79
        Jeramiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        If you believe there is no after  ....   or beore  ,,,


            If you believe ... This is "IT"  ... then we ain't all that and a bag of chips too.   Ssooo ... tell me again why I should be listening to you?



            No offense, just askinnn a real question.

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I know living now may not seem much to some who can't wait for the next life, but to me it's a no brainer.
          I love my life, but am not about to begin following a sad psychotic myth in the vain hope of a life after this one.

          Not for me.

          I will continue to enjoy my life for as long as it lasts. I know I will make worm food when I die, and that will contribute to the life cycle.
          While I'm here I will contribute what I can in the way of love to enhance what is here for the next generation. smile

          1. Randy Godwin profile image94
            Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Those lucky worms! smile  I plan to feed a few myself, Earnest! 

            Life is wonderful enough without bringing imaginary villains and deities into the picture.  smile

          2. aguasilver profile image88
            aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I know living for today may seem like everything to some people who cannot accept that this life is just a training ground, that we are eternal beings, a spirit and soul with a body, not just a body with a soul (and for most unenlightened spirit)but for me it is a no brainer.

            I love my life, but I'm not deceived by the enemy into thinking that this is it!

            That just a short time living is what I was created for!

            I will continue to enjoy life for as long as God sets me to be here in His power, like Earnest I will make worm food, for my body is nothing, and like him I will return to the very dust it came from, the chemicals and minerals God put me together with.

            While I am here I will continue to reach out to the lost and try to bring them to a fullness of Christ, as God tells me I am to do, but I will also respect those who do not wish to accept Christ as their master, and choose to surrender their authority to other gods or demons.

            Some of them are wonderful and beautiful people, it is not my part to judge or determine their future existence in eternity.

            My sole responsibility is to be answerable to God for my own life, and to seek to warn those who God places in my life-path, of the dangers they may face.

            Different perspectives on life are what makes it interesting, and we get to choose which one we prefer to follow.

            Life's great, but death is nothing to fear! smile

            1. lone77star profile image92
              lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Nicely said, John.

              Bodies are wonderful, but temporary vehicles. I remember a few of them.

              1. aguasilver profile image88
                aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I should start calling you Lazarus Long then! wink

                1. lone77star profile image92
                  lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I've read a lot of Heinlein, but never any of the Lazarus Long stories. Only a brief mention of him in "Number of the Beast." Next chance I get, I check him out.

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              FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              INTEREST ING PHRASE...SOME PEOPLE  WHO  CAN NOT  ACCEPT.
              ..
              RELIGIOUS  FANATICS  COME  TO  MIND.

              .WHY  SHLD  ATHINKING  INTELLIGENT  PERSON FEELHIS/HER  BELIE FIS  THE  ONLY ONE.....WE  SEETHE  WORST CASE  OF WHERE  THAT  LEADS....IN  THESE  TIMES...MY  WAY  OR  THE  HIGHWAY..SO  INVASIONS/FATWAHS/BARBARIC  EXECUTIONS UNDER  THE  GUISE  OFRELIGION

              HAVENT  WE  LEARNT  AS YET

          3. Eaglekiwi profile image75
            Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Yes back to dust we shall return,

            BUT, the soul/spirit doesn't die..
            Earnest what if when you die and find out you were wrong? wink

            Lose/Lose


            See ,the way I figure it ,if I die and find out I was wrong ,then nothing lost ,But, if God was right ,oh baby baby smile Im in Heaven!

            Win/win

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            FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

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  7. Cagsil profile image83
    Cagsilposted 5 years ago

    Not meant to offend, however, I'm sure a few might be.

    Do you believe in God? Which one? There are plenty of them, last I checked.

    However, I no longer have a formed belief on the topic. I did once.

    As for my beliefs? I only have one I care to share with the general public(outside family and friends). I believe the Boston Redsox will WIN the World Series this year. smile

  8. Smart is Good profile image77
    Smart is Goodposted 5 years ago

    I don't believe in any God, but I still respect people who do. My family still makes me go to church with them but... making me stand in a garage will not turn me into a car.
    Thanks for sharing

    1. lone77star profile image92
      lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this


      Smart, that is outrageously funny: standing in a garage to become a car! Good laugh, that.

      Driving in a car does not make you one, either. But occasionally, especially when driving for many long hours, I find that, even after leaving the car, I still feel the seat and steering wheel, and when I close my eyes that night, I see the constant flicker of the dashed yellow line down the center of the road.

      Such attachment comes from well-practiced familiarity and association.

      Most people think they are their bodies. And when some experience being outside of their physical shell, they become disoriented or confused. I wouldn't doubt that many who experience an out-of-body (OBE) event merely do not mention it to others because they themselves view the experience as crazy or unreal. It may go against their cherished worldview.

      When a surgery patient can later list for the doctors the dusty items on top of the shelves nearby, this is not from hallucination or "lucky guess." This acts as real proof of our spiritual nature.

      The most startling OBE I've experienced was crystal clear in visual clarity -- color, textures, details. It lasted only a few moments. And mine was not induced by drugs, surgery and/or trauma. My body had been wide awake, in a conversation with a spiritual counselor.

      One of my brothers experienced an OBE while in a phone conversation with his girlfriend. She had just gotten out of the shower and was trying to decide which dress to wear. My brother attempted to help her out and she freaked a little when he described the contents of her closet. She freaked because she realized that my brother could also see that she wasn't wearing anything. wink

      Just as we humans have children who look much like us, God had children who look much like Him -- non-physical, spiritual and immortal sources of creation.

  9. Jerami profile image79
    Jeramiposted 5 years ago

    Ok    everybody is gone ....    it's after midnight .... 


        later.

  10. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    I get to live on in a wonderful way after my death.

    I created children. smile

    1. aguasilver profile image88
      aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      If I taught mine right, I get to spend eternity WITH them!

  11. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    Mine may all be rotten non-believers and will rot in hell like me. sad

    1. aguasilver profile image88
      aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Or maybe I will meet yours in eternity and we can discuss what a nice old bloke you were! wink

      Bit strange, but nice anyway! smile

    2. lone77star profile image92
      lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this


      Not as punishment, Earnest, but as a matter of choice.

      When a suicide perpetrator decides to step off the roof of a 20-story building, they meet "God's vengeance" at the velocity of impact. Their "splat" is the result of God's creation (the natural laws of physical reality) plus their own misguided decision. Hell is kinda like that. sad

      You may not be able to remember such things, but the period between lives (what the Buddhists sometimes call "bardo" or "between time") is sometimes filled with great terror and disorientation. Being without your body can prove to be a real bitch.

      One Hubber described developing the ability to have lucid dreams on a regular basis, but then the dreams got carried away. Fear crept in. And in that fear-based dream reality, fearful things were created. And he couldn't easily wake up. He might think he was awake, but the dream was still going on.

      When you are without a body in the post-death bardo, there is no such thing as "waking up." No body. Nothing to wake up. Such near-perpetual terror could be likened to a lake of fire. Definitely not a comfortable position to be in.

      What is truth? I don't know. Not yet. When I'm humble enough, I find pieces of it. Will I finally be able to awaken the sleeping immortal, within (the kingdom of heaven)? I don't know. I hope so. I strive to "follow Christ," but find myself too often chasing after ego. I still have a lot to learn.

    3. jacharless profile image82
      jacharlessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Still misreading it, eh, Earnest? No worries.
      Just an FYI on the down low: death AND Hell were tossed away at the resurrection. To back it up, Johns vision defines it also, just at the mention -- twice in the same sentence-- about the first resurrection. smile

      Happy Tuesday aft`noon bud.
      James.

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Simply replying to a belief which has long standing with certain posters. smile

  12. BethanRose profile image88
    BethanRoseposted 5 years ago

    I don't believe in God in particular. I believe there may be some source of all power up there...somewhere, but I'm not religious to believe it is God. Who knows! But I do not judge those who do believe in God.

  13. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    lone, there are literally dozens of sound reasons for all sorts of phenomena we experience in our minds, but that is it, no invisible impossible mythical entity required to explain phenomena, but the origins of it are the mind itself in many cases.

    Some phenomena are difficult to explain, but one does not need to throw logic out the window and resort to myths in finding an answer to everything. We don't know everything, and I'm fine with that. smile

    1. Evolution Guy profile image61
      Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, but you are choosing to burn in hell by not believing the nonsense this one tells you. Especially as he makes it harder to read by using colored "ink." lol Is it just me - or are these guys sounding more and more desperate for people to believe them?

    2. lone77star profile image92
      lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this


      Earnest, that's great! There are plenty of possible reasons why I would see something clearly without my Homo sapiens eyes. I agree.

      A friend of my Dad's, in 1971, told a story of spiritual research in the mid-50's. He was called to an office he had never visited before. While discussing things with the researcher, he was asked to describe the contents of the neighboring room (to which the door had been closed). He did so, and even read off the titles of the books on the filing cabinet next to the door leading to the room in which his body sat.

      There are several possible explanations. It could've been a real OBE. He could've read the minds of the researcher and his assistant. He could've asked God. He could've consulted the Akashic Records (the Jungian super-consciousness). Did I leave any out?

      The simplest would seem to be that he merely got outside of his body and took a look. Could my OBE have been merely a hallucination? Perhaps, but a non-drug, non-trauma, non-surgery hallucination with such clarity of color and detail is startling even to this scientist.

      But my Dad's elder friend's experience is something else! To say that such a thing is caused by some physical process really would be throwing logic out the window.

      And to have one lane in bumper-to-bumper rush hour traffic on a six-lane boulevard in Los Angeles suddenly empty for a distance of 2 miles, all in less than 5 seconds, is beyond anyone's ability to explain by ordinary physical processes. Especially when such clearance started less than a second after your primary witness created a picture of such clearance and then dismissed (or as the Buddhists would say, "allowed") that mental image into reality.

      Okay, so I don't have video tape of this. There were over 2000 witnesses. Perhaps one day one or a few of them will come forward and corroborate it. If someone does come forward, I'll ask them the color and make of the car I was driving, if they can remember that detail. I'll keep that detail private until such time.

      In the meantime, say you believe my story, or merely suspend disbelief to discuss the merits of the incident. How would you explain it? What physical processes would've been involved? If any!

      In every city I've visited (from Madrid to Bangkok and D.C. to L.A.), an ambulance cannot clear rush hour traffic for a 2-mile stretch -- ever! And the laws in the United States say that traffic needs to move to the right -- not right and left around the center, West-bound lane.

      Thoughts?

    3. Jerami profile image79
      Jeramiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Some phenomena are difficult to explain,



      ==  -=  =-  -- ==


         Me     and cause we cain't splain it.   It Ain't real ??  !!"?

      1. Evolution Guy profile image61
        Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Odd. You don't say you cannot explain it - you claim to have an explanation. lol Majik. lol

        1. lone77star profile image92
          lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Amazing, E.G. Science has explanations for all manner of things. So, having an explanation for something is not the problem, I take it. wink

          And your explanation? Will you merely claim ignorance, bury your head in the sand and hope you never run into anything like that for yourself? That really is funny! lol

          Jerami and you would sure look funny with your butts sticking up in the air, and heads well-grounded. Funny but sad.

          1. Evolution Guy profile image61
            Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Yes - I claim ignorance instead of majik. You are lying when you say you have a majikal explanation. I am not burying me head in the sand. You are talking nonsense and I do not accept it. You have lied to yourself and are causing conflict by claiming that I am not accepting facts that are true when you are talking nonsense instead.

            1. oubraham profile image60
              oubrahamposted 5 years ago in reply to this

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              1. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                and then the three bears married little red riding hood and they all lived happily ever after.

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    zeroiceposted 5 years ago

    of course i trust in god, Allah, (ISLAM)_

  15. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    A one word answer does it for me.
    Synchronisity. smile
    Very hard to explain to the kids I know, but having experienced it myself on two occasions I understand your passion in defending your experience, I never ever mention mine for fear of being laughed off the forums.. smile

  16. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    By the way, both my experiences were after attending my psychotherapist and towards the end of my third year.

    1. aguasilver profile image88
      aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      OK, I'm open and interested Earnest, really, you see I reckon that you are such a good guy, I cannot fathom how I could be f\deprived of you for eternity!

      I need answers!

      1. aguasilver profile image88
        aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        No Bulls**t Earnest, I reckon we have spoken more these last few months than many people speak with their friends in a lifetime, I have seen you expose yourself (in a good way) and seen that you are open, considerate, honest and at times very annoying, just like the rest of us therefore!

        How on earth could you be disqualified from eternity?

        Makes no sense, yet I know we are eternal, so give me an answer!

      2. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        smile Well I do not buy any of the biblical stuff as you know, and we have had the context and psychosis argument often enough in the past.

        I have no problem with you believing you are here for all time.

        The way I see it is that when my consciousness dies it is the end of this entity, and what is left behind will be a father and grandfather's love, and the moral example I have tried to set in my business life.
        I like to think I make a difference and that matters into the future.

        1. aguasilver profile image88
          aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          OK I can see your point, I know my father lives still for me, my grandfather I never knew, died one year one week and one day before I was born, everyone told me I was the reincarnation of him, and I feel I know him from the genealogy I have carried out. like wise my great grandfather, and I see my mother in my daughter, so yes the DNA and genetic links flow forward in time, and are living reminders of those who went before, but I still feel that we are eternal, to simply have one race around the track and then dissipate is futile, and I do not see life as futile, I see it as vibrant, and I do have an enlivened spirit, and have experienced 'the other side' as my physical life has interacted with their spiritual existence.

          It (life) does not end, it may not do what any of us expect or have been taught or figured out for ourselves, but it does not end.

          In soft mode I can believe we will be positioned according to our actions, to the love we have shown, to the help we have given to the selflessness of our lives, and I hope for that, as I know too many good people who do not qualify under the Christian doctrinal stance, yet surely deserve to gain a just reward for their lives.

          Thankfully we will all find the truth in due time, and whether we are right or wrong, we will either be aware of or never know.

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I carry my grandfather's name. smile

            My grandfather on my fathers side died when Dad was 14, on my mothers side when I was 3.

            I have great respect for both of them as their history shows they were both good men.

    2. lone77star profile image92
      lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I agree with Aguasilver. I've seen your kindness and thoughtfulness at times in these forums.

      I understand your fear of being laughed off the forums, but you have my interest and respect for your experiences, too.

      Synchronicity? Is it synchronicity when a scientist has one coincidence after another proving his thesis? And some alignments outside of the laboratory are statistically improbable ... in the extreme!

      The random motion of air molecules makes a four-minute vacuum, twelve inches across, a statistical impossibility. This would prove to be far more than mere synchronicity. Even a hundredth of an inch in diameter would be a shocking anomaly and completely outside the reasonable use of "synchronicity."

      Earnest, you sometimes strike me as a reasonably intelligent guy. Did you ever take statistics in school or probability theory? I haven't, but I've read enough mathematics (plus straight "A's" in Advanced Algebra and Trigonometry, Geometry, etc). Where does synchronicity end and improbability begin? How many coincidences does it take to confound physical law?

      Take Jesus walking on water, for instance. Was it synchronicity of water molecules happening to move in the upward direction underneath Jesus' feet with each step he took? But only underneath his feet and nowhere else on the Sea of Galilee? Occam's razor would slice the heck out of that ungainly monster of an explanation. I don't think Occam's tool applies to every situation, but here it sure make sense.

      And how is it synchronicity for my father's elder friend who in an OBE could read off the titles of books not visible to his Homo sapiens eyeballs? Hmmm-m-m! He merely spouted off a string of words which happened to match those titles? Synchronicity? Puhl-eeeze!

      And my brother Larry's OBE experience freaking his girlfriend when on the phone he helped her pick out a dress to wear, pointing out the black dress, third one to the left of the green one. She freaked because she realized he could see her closet and she had just gotten out of the shower (and was not wearing a towel). wink

      Synchronicity? Earnest, I have a one word reply!

      Nope! smile

  17. andycool profile image70
    andycoolposted 5 years ago

    I believe in an EGO-less myself. I believe in transforming my EGO to self-esteem... and thereby attaining deliverance and peace of mind. I'm almost there... where I'm immune to external shocks. smile

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    Binaya.Ghimireposted 5 years ago

    We are brought up to believe in God. As a child we are inculcated that there is Someone who is above all, and we mold our psyche accordingly. Later in life, we begin to challenge our childhood notions. Some become atheist and others become strong believer.

    I don't actually believe what I was taught to believe. But I think somewhere there is supernatural power, which sometimes acts evil and sometimes it is good.

  19. agctecson1996 profile image61
    agctecson1996posted 5 years ago

    yes..THAT is true...some phenoma are very hard to explain...

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      FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      WE  HAVE  NOT  YET  ACQUIRED THE  SOLUTION  RSO  OFTEN  EXPLAINED  AWAY  BY  WHAT  CLD  SEEM ACOPOUT...ITS  GOD.....ONE  CLD TRY  FACT /RESEARCH/STUDY  ETC...GOD IS INSERTED  OFTEN  INTO  FACT VACUUMS

  20. spiritualspark3 profile image60
    spiritualspark3posted 5 years ago

    There are two energies of the supreme lord: 1. Material & 2.Spiritual.

    Anyone is serving one of the two energies, the choice is that we have a free will to choose any of these energies. Material energy (that can be touched) will get us pride, ego, lust, anger and frustration because one always wants to accumulate more and more. On the contrary spiritual energy makes us humble, blissful and gives us more knowledge to see and understand things as they are part and parcel of the lord.

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      FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      INTELLECTUAL ENERGY  IS  ITS  OWN  GOOD  APHRODISIAC..IE SATISFYING...HENCE  MORE  SO  THAN  OTHER  ENERGIES  IN  THE  MINDS  OF  SOMEPERSONS...NOT EVERYONE  BUYS  IN  TO  THE  SANTACLAUS  THEORY

  21. Jonathan Janco profile image81
    Jonathan Jancoposted 5 years ago

    I believe in the Source of all creation and all creation being of the Source

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    wongomowaleposted 5 years ago

    I don't believe in the God of the Bible, but I believe in that there is some sort of divine force above us. This is from researching and studying near death experiences.

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      FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I HAVE  HAD  THE OLD NEAR DEATH EXPERIENCE..BUT  THERE  IS  NO  LOGICAL  CONNECTION   AS  A RESULT  ,,TO BUYING  INTO  THE  DIVINITY TRAIN...I AM NON  THEIST...DRIVEN  BY  INTELLECTUAL  PURSUIT

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    ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

    Yes I believe in the Creator God.

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    dixie28714posted 5 years ago

    You are headed in the right direction smile Leaving the Catholics in the dust was the best thing you could ever do!!! Praise God for that, now pick up a bible and read the book of Matthew where Jesus speaks to his disciples, you are on your way!!
    Also, john 3:16
    For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believes in him should NOT perish BUT HAVE EVERLASTING LIFE!! smile

  25. earnestshub profile image89
    earnestshubposted 5 years ago

    Belief in a myth equals salvation does it?

    Salvation from what exactly? The shocking mess his dad left behind? lol

    1. TMApsey profile image81
      TMApseyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I believe in God, but not religion. I don't hold the bible to be the inspired word of God. I feel that there is no right or wrong religion. What truely matters is that you live by the mist important rule. The Golden Rule!

      http://religiouslyconfused.webnode.com

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Do unto others is psychologically unsound.

        Who knows what anyone would find acceptable to have done to them based on what I wanted done to me?

        The best way to relate to others is with simple transactional thinking, beginning with the premise "I'm OK your OK"

        All religion runs on "You can be OK if"

        Not loving, not honest and not true.

        All religion is man made to control and manipulate others, and is one of the most disgusting and useless ways to view our fellow man...... through the eyes of psychosis.

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          Motown2Chitownposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You know, earnest, I don't know that I've ever looked at it quite this way.  I agree with you to a point.  Everyone is different, and so it would be quite natural for us to treat them differently.  I think that's what you're saying, in part, am I right?

          On that premise, I would say that it is reasonable to treat others the way they treat you within the bonds of common decency and respect.  And, if for whatever reason, their treatment doesn't command decency and respect, your best bet is to simply distance yourself from them.

          I find what you said very thought provoking.

          smile

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Personally I would prefer people to be treated in the way they choose to be treated, not how I treat myself.

            I feel confident that some of the things I do would be most unsuitable if projected on others. smile

            1. recommend1 profile image71
              recommend1posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              That is a bit deep Earnest !   maybe you could give your bad back to the religionisers to give them some real issue to worry about themselves about big_smile

              1. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Now there is a great idea! I will generously allow them to take my back problem on. smile

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              Motown2Chitownposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I see exactly what you're saying.  We generally tend to be much harder on ourselves than we would ever be on others.  It would make sense for us to treat someone kindly where we might be harder in the way we treat ourselves.

              smile

            3. aguasilver profile image88
              aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              So if I choose to be treated as exempt from all moral responsibility, to be treated as having the self given authority to do whatever I want, that would be OK with you, we would both be OK yeah? smile

              I'm Ok, you're OK would still be a good starting point?

              1. Cagsil profile image83
                Cagsilposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Hey Aqua, it might be you who is looking at the individual incorrectly. And, misunderstanding what Earnest is trying to say.

                What Earnest is pointing out is "acceptance" of the others. Is the starting point.

                Your entire post, was written as IF one cannot truly be one's own authority, so must answer to a higher authority?

                People can be their own authority. No god required. And, still manage to do good with their life. Which proves, no god is required to understand one's own life and no need for a god to live it either.

                1. earnestshub profile image89
                  earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Spot on Cags.
                  Acceptance is the starting point, the very thing that is missing in religion.
                  You can be OK IF, or you can be loved IF is not love or anything like love.
                  I saw my ex wife give this type of :love to her son which she did and he fought till he was 6 years old. A very brave little boy who had although quite rich, had been through hell.

                  I was living with  his mother in Australia when I found out about him (She is a qualified child psychologist by the way) and it was ME that bought him to Australia when he was 6 as soon as I knew about his circumstances in Xian.

                  Because she is the natural mother, it cost me a total of $740,000 to remove him from his mother and 5 years of court battles before he was permitted to have his say and live with me alone without his mother. It also cost me a double fronted Victorian house that I owned near nothing on and now worth around 1.7 mill.

                  For all those years during the hearings in the family court I lived with her in my house just to protect him from the massive psychological abuse, and so I never left her alone with him after the first time she tried to physically hurt him.
                  While we were now both being abused, I never told him his mom was no good, I told him I did not agree with his mothers behaviour and that it was the result of her suffering. He still kept seeing his mother and does still today, at my request.

                  She was Chinese, not religious, but had the same "You can be loved if" approach to child raising as religion has to everyone.


                  Don't give me Bull*hit about that being love aqua, it makes me feel nauseous.
                  It is quite simply insanity

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              2. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Actually following transactional analysis processes is always a good starting point no matter who we are dealing with. smile

        2. aguasilver profile image88
          aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Do unto others is psychologically unsound IF your own wishes are perverse, if however they are righteous, then you would do no harm.

          Do no harm is the mantra of witchcraft: "Do as you will, but do no harm"

          Doctors are taught "First do no harm"

          "I'm OK your OK" presupposes that whatever they are OK with is actually OK.

          Dangerous ground, they may be OK with being a lying cheating deceiving sociopath who thinks it's OK to lure you home and slice you into small pieces, all the time giving you an 'I'm OK your OK loving smile'

          So we humans need to actually decide some basic level of authority which dictates what IS OK and what IS NOT OK.

          And that requires submission to SOME authority who can exercise that authority over YOU.

          Who is that authority in your life... that is the question?

          What offers you unchanging basic understanding on how to interact with humanity, no matter whether they are OK or not?

          Which is why religion runs on "You can be OK if" because there needs to be SOME IF that we agree upon.

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Aqua, if you learn TA you will see that I'm OK your OK is a two way street, without the opportunity to be sucked in by some snake oil salesman, as the awareness of self demanded to stay on track is built in to the process, from both parties, or it is obviously I'm OK you're not OK, at which point one refers to the transaction analysis itself to ensure conformity.

            1. aguasilver profile image88
              aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              TA Philosophy

              "People are OK; thus each person has validity, importance, equality of respect."

              I can agree with that, provided that it is accepted that some folk are plain evil and incapable of change, being evil: that is being given over totally to evil: can be changed by personal decision.

              In my experience the decision that changes it will be to submit authority to Christ and allow Him to deal with the evil powers that control the subject.

              I have seen that work, had folk who told me afterwards that their 'inner voices' were telling them to kill me, but that they were constrained, so yes I can see that Christ in one can bring changes that stop ones evil intentions or desires.

              But I have NEVER seen any human make that decision to leave behind their evil traits and STAY clean on their own power.

              "Everyone (with only few exceptions, such as the severely brain-damaged) has the capacity to think."

              Agree again, but I have found very few people who are prepared to think, because thinking leads to the realisation that you have been deceived by the world since you were first assessed in kindergarten, that you are living as a slave to the system, even though you may think you are a free man, and that to change that means RADICAL discomfort and even danger to yourself and your family.

              Better to sit back and watch TV with a beer than think, thinking leads to danger....

              "People decide their story and destiny, therefore these decisions can be changed."

              See first part above. I chose my story from age eleven, was an accomplished thief by 13 years of age and controlled a gang of older (but mentally challenged) thugs who I could manipulate to do my will.

              Yes we can decide our destiny, but (for me at least) the destiny I chose was the wrong one, for in the end result I found no satisfaction from the riches and power, and when I spent my years of self analysis, introspection and reality checks, found that my real desire was as a creative, and my satisfaction comes from setting people free from the shackles that the world imposes on them.

              Best of luck with your TA, let me know when you have successfully allowed a killer who you have treated to stay in your house when you and your grandchildren are asleep.

              Yes I have done that, and he told me that he was going to have killed me and left my child alive, but that, as said, he was constrained, and I slept soundly, knowing that He that is in me is greater than he that was in him.

              1. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                TA is 27 years ago for me aqua, I have spent the time since studying other things.
                TA makes a simple truth, and the character of people has nothing to do with it.

                I spent 31 years behind the counter in my motorcycle and auto businesses spending many years serving all the world known bikie gangs from Hells Angels to Coffin Cheaters, Road Rebels and a dozen others.

                Most of them were ladies and gentlemen.

                I am not some babe in the woods ya know aqua!
                As far as biblical things go I will simply state that anything in it which is psychotic was written by a psychotic, and that you can write in stone. smile

                1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                  Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  This is the problem with people like aquasilver who believe they have "higher authority" than anyone else. They assume there is only "my way or the highway." I have made some pretty drastic behavioral changes without the need to pretend I was doing it for an Invisible Super Being and therefore I have the right to tell you what to do and you need to do what I did.

                  This is why their religion causes so much conflict. sad

                  1. earnestshub profile image89
                    earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I feel sure many of us have done thing under our own steam that would appear to be too much for others to take on.

                    Being an Aussie I know some of our immigrants have been almost super human in their endeavours to provide a good family life, even leaping in a leaky boat to have a chance at a decent life.

                    No god required. smile

                  2. lone77star profile image92
                    lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    E.G., it's EGo that causes conflict. smile

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                    FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    DIE HARD  FANATICS  TO  ANY CAUSE...BE IT  RELIGION  ETC...HAVE  SOME  DIFFICULTY BEING  INCLUSIVE  OF  OTHER  /ALL  VIEWS....WHICH  HAS  2  B THE  BEST  AD  WHY  NOT  2  PARTAKE  OF  RELIGIOUS  FARE

                    MY  CLUB  IS  THE ONLYONE  2 B FOLLOWED....YR CHOICES  R OF  NOIMPORT  UNLESSTHEY  R  THE  SAME ASMINE.....SOUNDS KINDA  DANGEROUS /LIMITING /

          2. Evolution Guy profile image61
            Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Hence the Inquisition, Crusades, Witch trials etc etc. Now you spouting nonsense about having an authority I need to bow down to and I am rebelling if I do not attack homosexuals as sinners. 

            This is why your religion causes so many conflicts, aguasilver - you and people like you who take no personal responsibility because they have no authority. You are the problem. You. sad

            Be a man. Take personal responsibility.

            1. aguasilver profile image88
              aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Mark, we have covered this ground before, yet you still come up with the same trite little arguments, go try them on somebody who does not know your multiple personality's all using the same saw to play your merry tunes.

              Like you a lot mate, but it does get boring, no matter which sock you are wearing.

              1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                There is nothing trite about honesty. Take personal responsibility for your actions.

                Please stop lying about me. I am only using one persona. I know your "morals" allow you to lie, as long as you repent in your head but still...... sad

                I made a reasonable argument to try and explain why people such as yourself always feel the need to impose their "higher authority" on everyone else. Just look at you threatening everyone with punishment and damnation if they make the "wrong" decision not to believe the garbage you believe.

                Why not address that point instead of lying about me?

            2. lone77star profile image92
              lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Jesus did not attack homosexuals as sinners. He dined with sinners, talking to them with compassion. Anyone who claims to be Christian should do the same thing. It was only the so-called "law abiders" (the Pharisees) who condemned Jesus for loving the lowly sinners who needed his help.

              Again, E.G., no matter how many times you blame religion for war, you're hitting the wrong target. Not very bright. sad

              That's one problem with ego. Wrong target! Wrong everything. Even when ego is supposedly right, it is wrong. If you look only at the spectrum of a dichotomy, you won't find truth. You need to go outside of that spectrum to see how truly wrong ego is.

              Pseudo-Christians attacking sinners who more need their compassion, that's wrong action. That's ego speaking.

              With your illogical statements about religion, you are no poster child for logic. Because war and cruelty also exist outside of religion, there may just be a deeper reason for those ills.

              You say "take responsibility." Good words, but can you live up to them? Can you take responsibility for your own ego? With your haranguing about religion and ignorance of the real cause -- ego -- I'm having my doubts.

              There are many "higher authorities" in life. Some are temporary. Some are permanent. There are dictators, policemen, governors, presidents and the like. But there is also physical law -- like gravity. If you have no respect for law, you might step off a tall building and discover that you indeed go splat. So much for ignoring the higher authority of gravity.

              And beyond gravity is an even higher authority.

              How can such authority be only about love, but with so much violence and suffering in the world? That is a conundrum which can be answered, but only if you let go of ego long enough to look. And the answer is quite logical. In fact, very simple. It takes the creativity of Einstein and the intelligence of a child to discover it.

              1. Evolution Guy profile image61
                Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                You are correct. Religious people such as yourself are the problem. There is no higher authority. Take responsibility for yourself instead of this egotistical nonsense you keep spouting. Listen to what I am saying instead of defending your religious beliefs and saying nonsense as fact. You have no authority. None. The conundrum is why religious believers such as yourself blind themselves to reality and cause so many conflicts. And then claim they are not doing so. Disgusting. sad

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          FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          RELIGION  SERVES  THE  SOLE  PURPOSE  OF  CONTROL....THE  MIND/INTELLECT  OR  THE  LARGESSE....IN  AFRICA  MISSIONARY  TYPES  WLDSAY PRESUMABLY  TAKE  THIS  BIBLE  AND  GIVE  ME  YR  WEALTH /LANDS...
          WHERE  INFO IS  LACKING  OR  LOGIC FAILS  MR GOD  IS  PUT  FORWARD  2FILL  THAT  VACUUM  ..I DONT HAVE  AN  ANSWER  HENCE  ITS  GOD WHO  DID   OR  DIDNT  DO  IT...I  NEBER  FAIL2  BE  AMAZED AT  HOW  OTHERWISE  INTELLIGENT  ASSOCIATES  SUCCUMB  TO  THE  BEST  SNAKEOIL  MANTRA 2  HIT PERPETUITY.
          IN  THE CARIBBEAN  IF  U  WANT  2  START  WORLD WAR  3,,JUST  ESPOUSE   NONTHEISM...A TAXI  DRIVER  BELTEDMEOUTOF  HIS  CAB
          WHEN  I ASKED HIM  2  SAVEME THE  BORNAGAIN  RHETORICWHICH  I  CERTAINLY  NEVER  REQUESTED

          THERE  HAS   2  B  SOMETHING  SAID FORTHEUNUSUAL COINCIDENCE  OF  THE  WORLDS  TRU PROFOUND  THINKERS /INTELLECTSALL SUBSCRIBE  2 NON  THEISM..
          THEY  SEEMM2KNOWSOMETHING  THE BORNAGAINS  HAVNT  BOUNCED  UP AS  YET

  26. kmackey32 profile image82
    kmackey32posted 5 years ago

    Not another one of these....

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    Binaya.Ghimireposted 5 years ago

    Do we have a choice. Our government, our parents, our teachers, our friends...everyone tell us to become a believer.

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    jomineposted 5 years ago

    Isn't the last post a spam?

    1. aguasilver profile image88
      aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, probably, but my post probably brought a fatwah down on me, so who cares!

    2. Midasfx profile image63
      Midasfxposted 5 years ago

      I believe in Siddhārtha Gautama ( the awakened one )

      "Buddhists recognize him as an awakened teacher who shared his insights to help sentient beings end their suffering by understanding the true nature of phenomena, thereby escaping the cycle of dukkha and rebirth (saṃsāra), that is, achieving Nirvana. Among the methods various schools of Buddhism apply towards this goal are: ethical conduct and altruistic behaviour, devotional practices, ceremonies and the invocation of bodhisattvas, renunciation of worldly matters, cultivating continuous mindfulness, meditation, physical exercises, study, and the cultivation of wisdom." ~ Wiki

      If you are not familiar with the practices or teachings of Buddha,look it up on Wikipedia. I found my values are closely aligned with that of Budism. Several years ago I finally decided to choose my religion. ^_^

    3. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 5 years ago

      I would like to know more about synchronisity in the deeper Jungian sense myself.
      I have the empirical evidence of my own experience which I would not try to pass of as truth, as I could not produce the evidence, and if I did it would still not be proper proof and could be torn apart as easily as your experiences can.

      I also have the empirical evidence gathered by Jung during his experiences with inmates of a mental institution he was assigned to at one time and little else other than an account of poltergeists that could be seen as related. smile

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      logic,commonsenseposted 5 years ago

      I believe in magic of a young girls heart and the music that'll free you whenever it starts.......................

      1. aguasilver profile image88
        aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Ahhhh.... The Lovin Spoonful.... fond memories smile

    5. Stump Parrish profile image59
      Stump Parrishposted 5 years ago

      Thanks for pointing that out John. I hadn't noticed this when I started following him. I wont accept it from those i disagree with and it's just a tad hypocritical to do so from those  ido agree with. If a person refuses to put their words out where they can at least be attributed to a hub page, I have no interest in following them. I have quit following him and again thanks.

      1. aguasilver profile image88
        aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I should say, my pleasure, but of course it is not, I would rather folk stood up and be counted, and if that cost them followers or income, so be it.

        Thanks for replying.

        John

    6. Bijosh profile image60
      Bijoshposted 5 years ago

      I believe in a God that is beyond religion. I believe that god is beyond human comprehension. We can't comprehend him/her with our limited time and space.

      1. Evolution Guy profile image61
        Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yet you comprehend this god and know it is there? How strange. You just said you do not understand.

        In any case - what makes you think every one is as dull witted as yourself? You know what I can and cannot comprehend? Sounds to me like yet another excuse to claim knowledge without doing any learning.

      2. OutWest profile image61
        OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Exactly.  Well said.

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      pyxlelkposted 5 years ago

      I believe Buddhism .I think load Buddha show the path for nirvana

      1. aguasilver profile image88
        aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I never even knew he was their manager, was that before Kurt shot himself?

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I didn't realise he was talking about the manager...... I was going to ask him to sing a few bars to see if I knew the song. smile

          1. aguasilver profile image88
            aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            He could probably ummmm it for you!

            1. earnestshub profile image89
              earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              lol

              OK it seems neither of us believe Buddha is running the shop. smile

              1. aguasilver profile image88
                aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                But harmless and a very nice religion to follow, if you don't want too many rules..... never met a violent Buddhist myself, but I guess they exist out there.

                I have plenty of Buddhist friends, it's more or less Christianity without Christ but with Feng Shui added.

                Ok, but has some really strange home decor rules!

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

      I believe in the Creator God; and it is very natural to believe in Him.

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        FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        NATURAL   IS A HIGHLY SUBJECTIVE CONSTRUCT..
        ..EG  IT MIGHT  B  NATURAL  4 ME  TO  BE  INTELLECTUALLY  DRIVEN  AND  NOT  PUSH  MR GOD  TO FILL  ANY  INFO VACUUMS  I  ENCOUNTER

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      gauravrohillaposted 5 years ago

      too good

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      Robin71posted 5 years ago

      I do so believe in God....I know with out Him I wouldn't have made it this far.

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
        Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I am so happy for you Robin -thankyou for sharing. smile

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

      I do believe in the ONE Creator God who set the evolution wheel of the Universe in motion; I worship Him and pray to Him.There is none like Him.

    12. Eaglekiwi profile image75
      Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago

      Sure ,just goggle 'atheist forums' and tons pop up.

      Sheltered life -yea right lol

      Im pretty much the same way ,somebody says something I have to add my 2cents worth, but only if its something that I feel quite strongly about.

      I do try and be courteous, and sing that song

      Oh lord ,please dont let me be misunderstood wink

      If Google advertised here , we'd make a mint eh lol

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I probably won't look, as I have no interest in the subject at all. To me it is a construct, and those who want to make a belief of it are welcome to, but it would bore the pants off me.

        I am courteous unless something is projected that includes me that I disagree with, then I usually reply in kind.

        Love the song!

        You are right, we could retire to some wonderful place like New Zealand, or Australia! lol

        1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
          Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I hear that wink

          Hey just finished watching a Doco on Aussie, the 12 Deadliest animals,think Ive seen it before ,but its always good to see geography close to home -though I wouldnt want to swim it lol

          Next prog, on is New Zealand and Australian Border Control.

          Gosh what a crack up the things people try to bring downunder roll  and the lengths they go to concealing dodgy stuff.

          I mean do they think we are that thick!!

          I just love hearing the accents( never thought Id say that)! and the calm manner they all use. Its a different demeanour wink

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I haven't seen it yet. I will check it out. smile

    13. Herbert08 profile image60
      Herbert08posted 5 years ago

      It's my FAITH which made me believe in HIM.

    14. Stigma31 profile image71
      Stigma31posted 5 years ago

      Back to the original question...No...I believe in people. I believe people once needed some type of direction and need for a "God" to dispose the fear they had of the unknown: Death, Night, the Heavens, Storms, Disease, etc. We being intelligent beasts need order to survive. Religion maintains this order for serveral centuries. Unfortunately, as mankind grew more intellectual God needed to evolve with him/her. The old testament god is vengeful, and demands reverence. The new testament god is about love and peace.
      The new branded god had more appeal to the intellectuals that still had no real answers for the unknown. Religions now are evolving at even a faster pace because the demands of society and equality are usurping both testaments. We should all put down our bibles and work together for the better of mankind. It is your brother, neighbor, countrymen, terrans alike that can make this world a better place. Only we can reduce poverty, fight disease, stop famines, etc. Religion is a deterent to world peace. And we all want world peace right?

    15. larrylim profile image81
      larrylimposted 5 years ago

      I believe there is a God, but I'm not religious - I don't pray. I guess it's mostly because I've seen many "religious" people do bad things, which sickens me to the stomach sometimes. Hence, my philosophy in life is just be nice to everyone and to help others whenever I can.

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

      I believe in the Creator God who has no partners, no wife, no sons and daughters.

      1. aguasilver profile image88
        aguasilverposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What is your relationship to Him?

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          ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I am one of his creation; He has bestowed life to me while I did nothing to get it.

    17. earnestshub profile image89
      earnestshubposted 5 years ago

      I wish the USA would get the hell out of Iraq, they have destroyed it already.
      Let the two religious factions do what they have done since the beginning of time, interpret their hate filled tome differently then kill each other over it.

      Obama will pull them all out as soon as he can get it past the vested interests of congressmen who have lived off the war.

      1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
        Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Never really got why they invested so much time and money, my  god it turned into such an expensive war!!!!

        Pride? Hmm..

        USA Military would be better bordering their own nations lines ie
        Mexico/USA wink
        Drug Cartel /Illegal Immigratation

        Priorities ?

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          Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I can't give you a good reason for the Iraqi war, but I can tell you why the US military can't police our borders. That is barred by federal law banning the military from being used on U.S. soil for domestic law enforcement.

          US military action within our borders would be a can of worms we do not want to see opened.

          1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
            Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Think I know where you might be coming from ,but whats the difference I wonder.

            The war is right on our/their doorstep!, yet they step over that and fly to another country..

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              Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I'm afraid I don't see a border war. I see foolish government policies. Our neighbors are not our enemies.  Criminals on both sides of the border are the problem.

              I suppose for a definitive answer on Iraq we'd need to see if Halliburton and Dick Cheney had a moment. It started as their war.

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            FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            heres  their  good  reason 4  that  war.... o.i.l.    o.i.l. and omore   o.i.l.

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              Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I agree. smile Why are you shouting at everyone else?

        2. Evolution Guy profile image61
          Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Crikey! You don't know about all the black stuff under the ground called "oil"? lol The Iraq war is about controlling the Iraqi oil deposits.

          Standing armies are more dangerous than central banks or oil companies.

          1. Eaglekiwi profile image75
            Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Yea did know about the oil sad

            Hoping I was wrong!

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          FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          they went to  oil,,,they  didnt  go  to  war...
          the wish2 right  the  worlds wrong s   cld     begin  in  south  usa..ie  fix  yr  own moat  b4  yr  neighbours  sliver

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          FOZDIGUAZUposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          WAR  IS  SIMPLY  A BETTER INVESTMENT RETURN  THAN WALMART  ETC...ASK DICKCHENEY

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      Dave Zupakposted 5 years ago

      i believe in the fat lady next door who shouts at our neighbors everyday. she's all knowing and nearly omnipotent

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

      I believe in the Creator God who is created everything else; but none has created Him; He is on His own and needs nobody else.

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        jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        No, you believe in some ancient books compiled by authors totally unknown to you.

        1. OutWest profile image61
          OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Is that how you defend your point of view, by telling other's what they believe in?  I've seen that all to often.

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            jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            You don't believe in existence outwest, existence is a fact. You believe in past or you believe what somebody said. So I was just pointing to his error.

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          ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I believe what has been revealed by the Creator God with reasons and arguments that satisfy me and convince me; others cannot decide my faith for me, it is my faith and I am entitled to believe in it.

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            jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Oh! you can have faith in anything you choose, there is no contention there. But when you make public, your beliefs, you will have to justify.
            From your words I suspect you have not seen the creator nor the act of creation. All you have is words written by people unknown to you, saying that, its from the creator. You just chose to believe them, for your own reasons, what ever that be. And if you USE reason, creator is irrational.

          2. OutWest profile image61
            OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Note to ibneahmad, I'm not sure if you were aware...my comment was directed at jomine.  Check "in relpy to this"

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

      I have seen the act of creation; we all experience it. The system of life has been set by the Creator God and with those systems one is born and one dies.

      I do experience the act of creation daily around me.

      1. Evolution Guy profile image61
        Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        No - what you see and experience is "existence," and you just choose to believe it was created by majik. wink

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        jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Wow! There is one person who has seen the earth and the world being created.
        what was god using then- a wand?
        And did you see it or experience it?
        And did you also, by chance, saw god creating the system(though i didn't understand what you meant by system)?
        And how does this god look like?

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          ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Every day is a different day; if He did not sustain it under a system; it will be a doomsday; everything will get destroyed. He created it from the beginning; evolved life and sustains it.

          1. Evolution Guy profile image61
            Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            How do you know this exactly? lol

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            jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Is this just rambling or are you trying to say something?
            Ok. I'll put the questions.
            1. What do you mean by creation?
            2. You repeatedly say Beginning. Beginning of what?
            3.Did you personally witness any creation?

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

      No, I don't think it is by magic; the system has evolved as set by the Divine, the Creator God.

      1. Evolution Guy profile image61
        Evolution Guyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yes - majik.

    22. mdcarroll678 profile image60
      mdcarroll678posted 5 years ago

      Even though there seems to be a huge debate, I think to each their own. I believe in Christianity but also have been studying other things as well such as Dawkins and Darwin. Elements of Evolution can be found but I find certain elements of Christianity actually seem to help me personally understand how some things got started in this universe. I try to take the stance that when an atheist tells me that they don't want to believe, I usually leave them alone about it.

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Have you read anything by Lawrence Krauss? smile

        1. mdcarroll678 profile image60
          mdcarroll678posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I probably should. I guess I can start on his works after I finish I Ching and some other works.

          1. earnestshub profile image89
            earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            There are a series of videos of peer reviewed lectures and talks on the BBC radio Discovery show.
            Here is one link.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ImvlS8PLIo

            1. mdcarroll678 profile image60
              mdcarroll678posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              thanks! got it saved as a favorites. Will have to definitely watch it and get back to you about it!

              1. earnestshub profile image89
                earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                You are most welcome. smile

                1. mdcarroll678 profile image60
                  mdcarroll678posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  He does have a sort of interesting proposal of information. I felt like some of what he said was good and legit, like covering some of the basics of science. Other things I might have to research more in the future.

                  1. earnestshub profile image89
                    earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I have followed his work since he did the original circuit as he has been awarded for his capacity to explain many scientific theories to the public.

                    I find a lot of what he has to say stands up to scrutiny pretty well.
                    I thing there is about 10 hours in the series but I could be wrong.
                    He covers the big bang rather well, and his one about man being stuff of the stars is very informative.

                    I like science, and follow a lot of other peoples ideas too.
                    The latest spate of scientific docos on TV are sensationally well researched in the main and well funded.
                    Having said that, some are so poor as to be meaningless.


                    I appreciate you coming back here to comment as you said you would. smile

                    1. mdcarroll678 profile image60
                      mdcarroll678posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                      Of course. I try to remain that Christian that is open towards learning new ideas and people. I like that he did a fair job on being able to explain things well. I think that makes it good and has helped to understand my own Christian faith better. Thanks for sharing with me!

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      ibneahmadposted 5 years ago

      It is the Creator God who created everything from annihilation; none else could do it.

      1. earnestshub profile image89
        earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Maybe the god that made god was even better! lol

        1. earnestshub profile image89
          earnestshubposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          ....or the god who made the god who made god. smile

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        jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Again? Do you understand what you write?
        Annihilation of what?

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          ibneahmadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Creation from annihilation that is what the Creator God does.

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            jomineposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            What is this 'annihilation'?
            Is it an object to convert it to something else?
            Or you just want to say something, though without any meaning?

     
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