Hello Paarsurry. Can I please ask a few serious questions? Did you decide who are “the truthful messenger prophets of the Creator” and who are not “the truthful messenger prophets?” If not you, who did and what authority and what qualifications are needed to make such decisions? Thanks for your consideration. I am looking forward to reading your reply.
Sorry I did not read your post earlier; somehow I missed reading it.
Torah and Quran both mention that the Creator- God so arranges the things that false prophets messengers always get killed. This is because they say that the Creator- God has talked to them and given a message for them; while He has not talked to them or sent them.
This punishment is specific for the claimants of Messengers or Prophets, not for a lesser rank of people.
The truthful messengers and prophets are helped by the Creator God like He helped Moses, Jesus and Muhammad; against all odds the Creator God saved their lives and they died naturally and peacefully and were successful people in all respects.
“And the Lord commanded all who are less wicked to respect the right of the more wicked to choose to be more wicked than the less wicked and the less wicked shalt not taunt the more wicked for choosing to be more wicked than the less wicked.” (Levity 3:6-7)
No apologies necessary, Gina. You had Leviticus on your mind and it should indeed be taken with a bit of levity. Especially the part which tells you how to sell your daughter into slavery, among other things.
Romans, look...I respect what your trying to do here, but the fact is, it was never Gods intentions for us to bible beat people to death. How you go about bringing the word only sends people packing instead of listening. Don't you see the numbers in these threads that are in doubt, question, mock, blasphamize, and nit pic? First of all, there is some truth to the cliche, "you draw more bees with honey, then with vinegar". That's how Jesus walked. Jesus never shoved the Word down peoples throats. In fact, the bible has quite a few places in the bible where the bible states all you have to do is deliver the message. That's it. What they do with it is totally up to them. There is no point in pushing the points. Randy is correct, God created day and night, Earth and Sky, good and evil. God does not hate his creations. Jesus said clearly, he hated liars. But he don't. He hated the act of lying which you have tried to say using evil and iniquities. All mankind is full of iniquities. All fall short of the glory of God. noone is without sin, no not one. What your not getting is Christs compassion. Look what he did for us. He understood us. He was born a child and walked as a man. He was raised by a single mother (Yes, Joseph died when Jesus was young), he got angry in the temple, he had the same feelings as a man, He was hated by his brother and sister in his youth, and was also was picked on. Jesus was every bit human. In the end, he became our Interceder, our Layer if you will. he went to the cross to absorb our sins so we didn't have to be destroyed. Our task was simply to accept him as our personal savior. I have no doubt you know the bible, and all its verses. But that don't mean you know the bible. I can read anything but that don't mean I got its full meaning. Before you post, ask what would Jesus say. Jesus was never a dictator. just an informant. Never a dictator. Randy, your correct also he created everything, even Lucifer we was a fallen angel. No one tempted Lucifer. He was a free thinking being. yes he was perfect at first. he lost that when her wanted to rebel.
So who tempted him to evil? If he was created perfect by your god, the perfection was flawed if temptation was allowed to seep through. Therefore, even a god apparently cannot create a perfect being. Besides, the god would have already known this before creating the being. Catch 22?
Correct again Randy. Well, in truth, we don't think like God, nor can we even imagine his thoughts.Why he does what he does, we may never know. Even the bible says there are things man will never know. To think like him is to be him. God gave his angels freewill as well. Lucifer chose to rebel, as perfect as he was and took a third of the angels with him. He can create perfection, but he creates it and gives it freewill. Jesus had freewill as well, but chose to keep his walk holy. He was given the opportunity to back out, but he kept to Gods plan. God allows temptation, so you have a choice. What choices you make is strictly up to you. Yes he already knows, but that's beside it all, you were still given a choice regardless.
Personally, I'm glad I don't think like your god, Gina. He saw some need to populate the earth with living things even though he already knew he would drown 99.999% of them down the road. This included babies and innocent animals slowly choking as the rising waters filled their lungs.
When you get to your heaven and all things become clear, please yell down here to the sinner's basement and tell me the reason your god did this when he already knew the outcome since forever. He's gotta have a helluva good reason for it, doncha think?
Personally I would say, that as a group, the wicked are those that try to control others and force then to live a particular lifestyle. Those that ignore tolerance and set themselves up as little Gods, demanding everyone obey them and their rules for a "good" life.
If that is done through the mechanisms of religion, then so be it. The religious are wicked.
Without taking the side of the Atheists who don't believe a word of this I must ask you a question.... Why shouldn't we call you Caiaphas? You are doing exactly the same kind of hard-nosed interpretation of scripture that Jesus preached against. Jesus attacked those who pointed fingers and that is exactly what you are doing. You have no idea how you are actually repeling people from God and because of that you are not of God. You are not showing the love for your neighbor and you are not working on the plank in your own eye.
In short you are either on here just to get a rise out of everyone or you are emotionally in need of some sort of validation as a person that you are obviously not getting in your own life.
...... are those persons who oppose the messengers prophets of the Creator God; Jesus was one of them. The salvation of a person depends on accepting all the messengers prophets of the Creator God; not believing even one of them intentionally deprives one of the salvation. I therefore believe in all the truthful mesenger prophets of the Creator like Krishna, Buddha, Zoroaster, Moses, Jesus, Muhmmaad and Mirza Ghulam Ahmad- the Promised Messiah of our era.
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