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JESUS Died Not For Our Sin

  1. jay_kumar_07 profile image61
    jay_kumar_07posted 5 years ago

    Which one is correct of the following

    JESUS died for our sin.
    JESUS died for sin.

    I think that JESUS died for sin is correct.
    It means that JESUS died and wone the globe for us not to allow sin to over come on us.

    JESUS told that resist the sin[devil].It will dissapear.

    1. Disappearinghead profile image86
      Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      He died for everyone's sin: "behold the lamb that takes away the sin of the World".

      1. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
        Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Another way of saying " If you act this way and treat other people with this respect, the hate, bad treatment and anamocities will decrease until they finally disappear."????

        hmm

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
          Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          *** animosities

      2. jay_kumar_07 profile image61
        jay_kumar_07posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        @ Disappearinghead
        Yes

        But
        He died for not  everyone`s sin.He died for every one.

        My point is that he died for those who can able to hold the lamb. 

        How can we fit  us to hold  the lamp.
        pl
        any body else

    2. profile image68
      paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Jesus was an innocent man like Buddha, Krishna,Moses, Muhammad and in our time Mirza Ghulam Ahmad-the Promised Messiah; all died naturally and peacefully.

      Jesus died in Kashmir, India at the age of 120/125 years

      1. lobobrandon profile image83
        lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Kashmir? 120 years??

        1. profile image68
          paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You may Google, Jesus in India, if you are fond of research and truth.

          1. lobobrandon profile image83
            lobobrandonposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No not now I don't believe that

            1. wilderness profile image96
              wildernessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Of course you don't believe it - you have been hammered with a different story that is "common sense" because lots of people believe it.

              But...how will you know which one is true if you don't research it?  Do you just choose which one makes you feel better and go with it as undeniable truth?

              I don't know which is true, either, but then I don't care where the man named Jesus died or how.  Do you?

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                Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Not to attempt to knock the legs out from under your argument; but there is no way, at this point, to know the truth. There is also legend that he went to Iceland and  that is where he learned to walk on water. Some say he studied under the wise men in Egypt.

                You've got a figure with no proof he ever existed. Every tale is taken on faith. You can't blame one person who believes one thing for not taking the legends believed by another as gospel. You might as well lambast someone who believes in elves for not believing in Hobbits because they were never mentioned before Tolkien's book.

                1. profile image68
                  paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  No, it is not difficult to find the truth that Jesus died a natural and peaceful death in Kashmir, India, after escaping a cursed death on the Cross. this what Jesus promised Jews to show the sign of Jonah; and Jonah did not die in the belly of the fish.

                  Don't you believe in Jesus' greatest miracle?

                  1. jay_kumar_07 profile image61
                    jay_kumar_07posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    ok

                    pl
                    I want to clarify the following

                    1. Jesus promised to show the sign of jonah not same as jonah.
                         So  no need to care about 3nights and 3 days formula.

                    2. Bible says that people are witnessed that  blood of Jesus drained.
                        Any body can say that blood drained body is dead one.

                        JESUS came out from the  tomb as like LAZARUS.

                    3. After that I do not know about peaceful death in Kashmir.

                    4. JESUS is not as like Budha, Mohamad,Krishna.Ram..etc. He is a messenger of GOD with holy birth.

                    I believe that the death of Jesus is not important. But blood of Jesus scattering is important.  That is why the KALVARY walk of JESUS.

                    Jesus told to heavenly father before death that  All are completed.
                    GODS Mission was completed by the mighty  messenger JESUS.

                    All are completed means what in the point of JESUS.

                    pl
                    Any body else

  2. Jason Marovich profile image86
    Jason Marovichposted 5 years ago

    The Christian requirement to believe on Jesus Christ as Savior implies that no man or woman is without sin.  Some say that the human race originated from one source, 'Adam' and 'Eve', and that their disobedience to God is passed down to every human that ever came after...you and I. 

    There are others that believe Christ came to battle Satan and save humanity by sacrifice (after Satan offered him a high place in the world).  They believe that God has given Satan free reign (just like His other creations) to influence the world as he is able to.  Thus the creation of Good and Evil.

    I personally believe that it is not a bad thing to consider ourselves imperfect.  I believe the idea is that when we die, we have to go through a process to become holy and therefore allowed to come into God's company.  I believe He sent His Son here for that very purpose.  To put an end to sacrifice and other means of washing away sin.

    This is a facet of being a Christian.  But all we can in life, there is no more, is to accept Jesus as Savior, and then to love and respect each other as much as we respect our own selves.

    1. profile image68
      paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      It is a wrong creed invented by Paul; Jesus did not mention it. Everyhuman is born innocent; sin is not hereditary; till one committs a sin one remains innocent.

    2. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
      Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      What if Jesus was an alien?

      1. profile image68
        paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Jesus was born of Mary; so he was not an alein.

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
          Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          In the Abrahamic definitions of God, God is not from Earth, therefore God is technically an alien. So if Jesus is God's biological offspring (as professed by the Christian off-shoot of the Abrahamic Religions), then Jesus is a half-blooded human/alien mix.


          yikes (ain't reality a Beeotch)

          1. profile image68
            paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            There is no such consenses definition in Abrahamic religions that Jesus was a god or son of god; certainly Jews and Muslim don't believe it.

            Jesus was born of Mary; so he was not an alien.

            It might be your personal view; definitely it has got nothing to do with Abrahamic Relgions.There is no technicality involved in it; a simple thing; Jesus was son of Mary.

            1. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
              Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I F

              If Paar... if

          2. Disappearinghead profile image86
            Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Adjective:   
            Belonging to a foreign country or nation.
            Noun:   
            A foreigner, esp. one who is not a naturalized citizen of the country where they are living.
            Synonyms:   
            adjective.  foreign - strange - extraneous - outlandish
            noun.  foreigner - stranger - outlander

            He was not from the state of Israel, but then neither am I.

            1. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
              Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              al·ien [eyl-yuhn, ey-lee-uhn] noun
              1.a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen).
              2.a foreigner.
              3.a person who has been estranged or excluded.
              4.a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.

              ex·tra·ter·res·tri·al [ek-struh-tuh-res-tree-uhl] adjective
              1.outside, or originating outside, the limits of the earth.


              yikes

        2. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
          Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Ok so who was his Daddy? Where did the other half of his DNA come from?

      2. emrldphx profile image60
        emrldphxposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What if? Is there anything in the definition of alien that contradicts what Christians claim Jesus to be?

        What's the point of asking the question?

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
          Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Seek and ye shall find.

          1. emrldphx profile image60
            emrldphxposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Wow, you responded to me!

            Want to respond to some of my other questions?(either approve my comment or reply to the thread)

            And again, what if he were an alien? I believe God is an alien. I don't believe He came from this planet.

            But I don't believe that He is a little green man.

            So, what's the point?

  3. www.lookseenow profile image60
    www.lookseenowposted 5 years ago

    Did God create the Word aka Logos, and did God create other angelic creatures?  Are they aliens, Define alien, is it not an invention with no proof of their existence?

    1. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
      Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      al·ien [eyl-yuhn, ey-lee-uhn] noun
      1.a resident born in or belonging to another country who has not acquired citizenship by naturalization (distinguished from citizen).

      2.a foreigner.

      3.a person who has been estranged or excluded.

      4.a creature from outer space; extraterrestrial.


      ex·tra·ter·res·tri·al [ek-struh-tuh-res-tree-uhl] adjective
      1.outside, or originating outside, the limits of the earth.

      1. www.lookseenow profile image60
        www.lookseenowposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Jesus did not come from another country, he passed through the heavens.  No one else has ever done that.

        1. Mikel G Roberts profile image89
          Mikel G Robertsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Got Proof?

  4. www.lookseenow profile image60
    www.lookseenowposted 5 years ago

    adjunct to last comment:

    Jesus came to earth, not as an alien, but from heaven where he heretofore existed in God’s form.  When he came to earth he gave no consideration to a seizure, namely to be equal to God.  No, but he emptied himself, and took a slaves form by coming to be in the likeness of men. 
    (Philippians 2:5-8)

 
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