With Christmas being next month I wonder just how much is too much? Malls all over america are pushing the Christmas agenda so much so that Macy's is going 24 hours as of black friday, because apparently we should be buying more stuff and a 12 hour shopping window just isn't big enough.
So how much is too much? Would even Jesus try to go out on his birthday weekend if he knew he had to contend with the traffic that the holiday's bring?
I believe they are pushing to hard. Many Americans can't even afford to put food on there table. To much pressure causes to much stress.
Personally I have a rather jaded view of Christmas. The profligate waste of money, buying crap that nobody needs, the ceaseless commercialism of it all. The true meaning has been lost. I'm happy with nice food, having the family around, good wine and a bottle of single malt.
Of course I thank Yashua but that's an all year round thing anyway.
I will gently disagree with you. To be jaded about Christmas is to allow yourself to be caught up in the agenda of the marketplace at this time of year--and to hate it. Just get out of the current. You choose to celebrate the season and its meaning despite the commercialism, even if it means that you choose not to buy a single item. This is what it's all about anyway--spiritual significance (with or without religious attachment). The meaning is not lost; we who understand it keep a beacon shining through the tawdry luster of lights and ornaments.
It's only lost if you buy into that. Christmas is what you make it. It's like the squeaky wheel. The commercialism is loud and gets the attention. Ignore it and (by January) it will go away.
The worst thing is the employees who are obligated to work those shifts. Retail is hell.
Christmas the true Christmas has nothing to do with the commercialism that we witness in the malls today. The true Christmas is about the birth of one special child, born to die, to free mankind from sin. Christmas is about the one perfect gift from God to Man to bring man back to God.
Even though the birth of the alleged Christ has never been known and regardless that the New Testament does NOT give a date of birth for the Christ and regardless that the first known writings about the Nativity weren't until 354AD with the creation of the "Chronology of 354" that was produced for a wealthy Roman Christian named Valentinus, you will continue to believe that.
Troubled Man: As a uniquely produced individual I have the right to beleive what I believe and in what I believe, without anyone else trying to ram their opinion of anything down my throat. We may never agree on anything but we must agree to disagree and to defend the rights of others to their beliefs.
I defend your right to believe or disbelieve facts. Sorry, if you feel facts are something that is being rammed down your throat in light of those beliefs.
Why anyone would want those rights defended is baffling.
I am entitled to believe in whatever I believe in. right or wrong good or bad they are my beliefs and I do not appreciate others who would attack them in any way shape or form. I expect the same courtesy from others.
You could instead go for the approach that it does not matter if the day we celebrate the birth of Jesus is his real birthday or not--it is just an annual celebration on an arbitrary day. That would make more sense that 'I have the right to believe something that most likely isn't true'.
Since your beliefs don't agree with history, they are simply being corrected and not attacked, as a courtesy to others. Is there a problem with that?
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