God has "shewed himself alive ....by many infallible proofs" (Acts 1:3). If you'd like the FREE Power Point slide showing 5 infallible proofs that the true God exists then just email me and I'll gladly send it out.
So you are saying that Jesus (not God) shewed himself alive by the same imaginary characters of the Bible? That's rich, oh of course...in order to interpret the Bible correctly you have to use the Bible to understand the Bible...
Because if you looked for proof outside the Bible you would see that it is B.S because flaming chariots don't come out of the sky unless it was actually a meteor, and people do not get taken up by clouds unless of course he was standing on a hight mountain and the fog was thick so he disapreared out of site right before thier eyes,
and Mary Magdelene and Jospeph needed a good cover up for boinking before they were married, classic!
Jesus Christ is not real. He is a character from a book and the people who actually wrote the bible never get any credit for thier work. What a shame. Too bad too because if it wasn't for peoples bizzar and unethical treatment towards other on behalf of Jesus, I would think it was a great book.
No, it is a great book, story, anything that can persuade billions of people they will go to hell is a pretty good mind f**k.
Sounds like your pretty bitter, but I hope I'm wrong. Maybe you had a bad encounter with Christians who didn't really know why they believe that they profess and if that's the case I personally want to apologize on their behalf.
Now you said, "people do not get taken up by clouds unless of course he was standing on a hight mountain and the fog was thick so he disapreared out of site right before thier eyes,"
You can only say that if you dismiss the idea of miracles. If you come to the Bible with PRECONCEIVED ideas which deny the miraculous then obviously your mind has to find some way to explain away what is there.
But if you come to the Bible OPEN MINDED seeking the truth like many Atheists and Agnostics over the centuries (including some of the most brilliant scientists) have then God will help you understand. God rejects the proud and wastes no time with them but gives grace and understanding to the humble.
I believe you are spitting in the wind until you do what everyone is urging you to do.
BTW, if you are going to use Scripture, use it correctly. The passage in Acts that you quote says that "Jesus" showed himself alive with many infallible proofs for forty days to the people that knew him and had seen him before his crucifixion. It was not meant as a generic proof text for the existence of God other than the fulfillment of Prophecy, which can be used as partial proof of the veracity of Scripture's statements.
As far as a powerful presentation, Paul says that the presentation of the Gospel is the "Power" of God. As powerful as your presentation may be, if it does not include the Gospel, it may be lack the punch you are looking for, especially among the skeptics and unbelievers you are attempting to persuade. Don't presume that they are stupid or gullible. Also, don't presume that you are necessary for God to prove His existence to anyone. I believe He can take care of Himself on that issue.
Other than that, I believe you have work to do to prevent a mess of your own making.
Thanks for contributing, I appreciate the feedback as I don't claim to know everything nor do I claim to be perfect.
You said, " Don't presume that they are stupid or gullible. Also, don't presume that you are necessary for God to prove His existence to anyone. I believe He can take care of Himself on that issue."
I don't presume anyone is stupid, it would be presumptive to presume that I do presume that. I don't presume their stupid but I know according to Scripture that they have been blinded. Also I don't presume I'm necessary for God for anything much less to prove His existence. If people will just honestly look around them, then creation should be a key indicator that He exists.
God doesn't need feeble human beings but God also told us not to have blind faith. Biblical faith is not blind. It is not a faith in faith in facts. If we didnt' have an informed faith, then we would be the "blind leading the blind" that Jesus warned us not to be.
I do know that only God's Spirit can ultimately convict of sin, but remember Paul "reasoned" with the Jews and Greeks, giving them the facts so that any honest skeptic wouldn't have an intellectual roadblock to understanding the truth. Only the Holy Spirit can get a person to accept the truth but we must do our part in being "ready always to give an answer (defense, apologetic) for the reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear" (1 Pet 3:15). That is what I hope to do with God's help.
"Other than that, I believe you have work to do to prevent a mess of your own making."
If there is a mess it would be any bigger than the mess mankind has gotten itself into by ignoring God and His Word.
What you don't see it that you too have been blinded. I think that the people you are talking about here, who you say ignore God and His word are the very people who preach it.
Of course that is like trying to convice a mouse that grew up with an elephant that it is actually a mouse.
What's so secret about it? Just write a Hub and post the link instead.
Marisa is Right
What is wrong if you can write a hub about it?
I would but the presentation is much more power in the Power Point presentation that it's in. Besides the managers of Hubpages have already warned me not to post links to hubs I've written. So this is the only way.
The hubpages managers asked you not to start forum threads for the sole purpose of promoting your hubs. If people want to read your frankly medieval opinions, they will have to find the hub without you spamming the forums.
Seeing as you do not engage in meaningful discussion, it is unlikely to do you much good doing this either.
I wouldn't voluntarily give you my personal email address if you were the last religious fanatic on earth.
Which I pray you will be one day
I am praying for you.
Get it? Irony.........
Ah, Mark you always seem to join the forums I start. And it is ironic but I'm scratching my head and asking myself: who is he praying to and how does he know his prayer is being heard or answered?
Anyway, maybe this is a first step Mark to you eventually bending your knee to Jesus Christ, the Creator.
Irony is a literary or rhetorical device, in which there is an incongruity or discordance between what one says or does, and what one means or what is generally understood.Verbal irony is distinguished from situational irony and dramatic irony in that it is produced intentionally by speakers. For instance, if a speaker exclaims, “I’m not upset!” but reveals an upset emotional state through her voice while truly trying to claim she's not upset, it would not be verbal irony just by virtue of its verbal manifestation (it would, however, be situational irony). But if the same speaker said the same words and intended to communicate that she was upset by claiming she was not, the utterance would be verbal irony. This distinction gets at an important aspect of verbal irony: speakers communicate implied propositions that are intentionally contradictory to the propositions contained in the words themselves. There are examples of verbal irony that do not rely on saying the opposite of what one means, and there are cases where all the traditional criteria of irony exist and the utterance is not ironic.
1. The use of words to express something different from and often opposite to their literal meaning.
2. An expression or utterance marked by a deliberate contrast between apparent and intended meaning.
3. A literary style employing such contrasts for humorous or rhetorical effect.
Sorry, I forgot I would probably have to explain the meaning. Guess you were homeschooled huh? Basically, I was taking the piss.
And I bend my knee to no one. Least of all your imaginary friend with the eternal damnation
But thanks. I will continue to pray for you. I hope you see the light. Or at least a glimmer.
Good luck. No worries though, if your spaghetti sauce is good enough, you are guaranteed a seat in heaven's cafeteria.
or...in other words...da, da, da...parebels.
Mark you said, "And I bend my knee to no one"....Now now Mark let's be honest here. You bow your knee to yourself, you are your own god aren't you?
And me getting to heaven is all by God's grace through Jesus Christ, not anything I can dream up or work for.
I didn't even know God knew how to work the Microsoft Office suite. That's awesome. And here Mark is talking about Medieval when the whole enterprise has moved into the semi-modern era. I can't wait to see God "shew" himself. That's awesome. Although, I'm going to wait for at least the You Tube video.
You know, I have to say, you'd think as all powerful as God is, he really would just make a video, or do like a live feed or something. I mean, how hard could it be to use some universal power action to just hijack a sattelite feed or something? Take over all the TV sets and be like, "Attention all dudes and chicks of Earth. You guys are being A-holes to one another. Stop or I'm going to open up the hose on you guys again."
And seriously, Thinkaboutit, write a hub. Nobody is going to send some zealous stranger their email address, so just write the hub. I might even watch your super powerpoint just for amusement. Imagine if it isn't as lame as I expect it to be and actually converts me! Just think how great that would be. But it won't happen until you write the hub.
Shadesbreath has just given you the solution. Post the Powerpoint presentation on Youtube, then you can post a link to the Youtube video in the forums (or anywhere else you like).
There are a lot of Powerpoint-style presentations on Youtube already.
Thinkaboutit77, Think about it. It's not right to expect anyone to send email to a stranger for this reason
"by many infallible proofs" (Acts 1:3). If you'd like the FREE Power Point slide showing 5 infallible proofs that the true God exists then just email me and I'll gladly send it out." 5 infallible proofs this should be something, like alchemy, turning lead into gold. Com'on - the only people that can do that are Wall
Does not make much sense then - but I still enjoy what you do
You never sound like others Mark
But true, everybody's way is different - which does not mean we can't use a little help from those ahead of us.
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