Why people need the sense of Godliness?

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   gobibleposted 12 years ago

   Always in our life we have unanswered questions and we need someone to share those questions......

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      rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      "Always in our life we have unanswered questions and we need someone to share those questions....."
      
      When I have unanswered questions I either ask someone who is smarter than me to try and help me out, or I will go to wikipedia.org.
      
      What is a "Sense of godliness",  are you proposing that people require a sixth sense to achieve happiness? I agree that a belief in god can benefit individuals, but you should really work on wording your arguments more specifically so that more people can understand what you are meaning to argue for or against.
      
      Being so vague and proposing that humans require sixth senses is confusing and a lot of people will have no idea what you are talking about.

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         gobibleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         hi rbe0, "sense of Godliness" is not referring to our traditional five senses. it is all about understanding and feeling that divine presence. Besides, the word "sense" has too many definitions as you can refer related books on english language. Here, it is matched more with the understanding, perception or feeling....It is not vague, but if you want to get it that way, i am sorry.

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            OutWestposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            But sense of Godliness can mean something like sense of goodness.  I mean what is Godliness.  It doesn't mean God.  There is a bit of an assumption that you mean why do people need to believe there is a God.  But I'm not clear on what you mean either.

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               gobibleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               That is fine outwest, it can mean many things....
               if our focus is on God, then we will get it. I am referring to a God who is in the bible, since i am a Christian. i respect that different people believe in different many things, and what they believe most might be their God. i mean some people think money is everything - for them i would say, money is God.

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                  OutWestposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Money is God...now there's a stretch.  I guess it could then mean that man created god.   I just figured you might want to make your question such that people knew what you were asking.

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            rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            To me it began as incredibly vague, but you did help to clear it up a bit and now makes a lot more "sense".
            
            You are indeed correct, spirituality is a necessity for human physical and mental wellbeing. It also must be expressed in a healthy manner agreeable to the individual in order to remain as a healthy aspect of each individuals lives.
            
            This is why so many views and opinions on god and spirituality exist in the world, it is healthiness thru individual freedom and diversity.

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      gobibleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      For true Christians Godliness is righteousness and for non-Christians and name-sake Christians, it is more like foolishness, i suppose.

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      paarsurreyposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      What exactly do you mean by godliness written with a capital G? Please

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   Cagsilposted 12 years ago

   Untrue. I have no unanswered questions in my life. Therefore, your OP is pure assumption based on a lack of knowledge.

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      gobibleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      you must be a perfect creation and full of worlds knowledge......it's good that you have no unanswered questions. In my understanding we are weak by nature and are strengthened by God alone if submitted willfully, not by any knowledge of this world. The world has no complete knowledge on anything yet, as scientists and other brainy people struggling each and every single day - writing and rewriting their finding....an unending story. And people who do not believe in God as it explained in the bible, everything in this world seems to be perfect and no need of any divine intervention.........

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         Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Is this statement meant to be sarcastic? I mean "a perfect creation"? Come on get real.
         
         Full of knowledge? No one is completely full of knowledge. I do retain knowledge(including experience). Just like everyone else does.
         That's your problem...you see yourself as weak. Go figure you have a skewed understanding.
         To look for an ending to learning is to not understand life to begin with.

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            gobibleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Yes, In front of God i'm weak. And i am a true believer of God and his revelations. i do not have to figure out this fact. Everyone will understand this today or tomorrow.....and sure it is our problem

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               Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               An honest, humble admission (that you're weak in front of God).   I like that.
               All Christians are that.

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                  Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  More like ALL Christians are weak. I'll agree.

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                     Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     You left out "in front of God".
                     No one said we're weak in front of anyone besides Him, Cags. 
                     Next time, try to focus on the entire context please.

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                        Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        Your context is meaningless because you speak about something YOU yourself cannot prove exists universally. So please...get off the high horse.

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               Cagsilposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               What G/god would that be?
               So, you mean that you deluded yourself? Good to know for future communications.
               The fact is you've deluded yourself. Yes, sir that's a fact.
               It's your problem. Not mine. Unfortunately, I know the damaging effects you're having on your own life and many others.

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                  Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Still beating that dead horse? If everything is a manifestation of energy, (see E=MC2) and consciousness is a reality, (Is consciousness real?) Then consciousness is a manifestation of energy. The sum total of extant energy in the universe is a constant. It isn't born, nor can it die. It isn't created, nor can it be destroyed. The amount of "E" in the universe is the same now as it was in the beginning. (If, indeed, there was a beginning!) and is the same as will exist at the end. (If there is, indeed, an end!) If everything is a manifestation of energy, then, one could postulate that there has always been a creation, and the energy itself could be conscious.

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                     rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                     Of course everything in our universe is a manifestation of energy. But, God and infinity exist outside of our universe and inside of it at the same time. Our universe is not infinite at any point in time, but it has also been proven scientifically that it is infinitely expanding.
                     
                     Conciousness can be non-reality as well. How else do you explain individuals with verifiable states of degraded mental functioning?
                     
                     Both creationists and evolutionists agree that the universe had a verifiable beginning and will eventually have a verifiable end.
                     
                     The universe exists as a finite measurement inside an overall larger scheme of things. The universe is only a peice of the enitire puzzle, not the answer.

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                        Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

                        There was something before the big bang. We just don't have a way of detecting beyond that barrier. It is like opening a door, and stepping into another room. It is even feasible that we are inside of a blck hole, destined to be sucked into ever smaller black holes, which begin to attract each other as thier gravitational vortexes expand. There is more to an end than the perimeter of what we can detect. This is the basis of string theory. String theory is becoming more and more complex, with the addition of the ultra-new "membrane theory" which seeks to attach all posssible strings to a membrane. Starting to sound more and more like a life form than a universe.

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                           rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                           We can never detect the the perimeter or end of the universe because it is continually expanding infinitely.
                           
                           Even the bible says no man knows when the end of days shall be.
                           
                           String theory is not becoming more complex, it is already well understood with well established rules and properties.
                           
                           Quantum Mechanics however are not as well understood, and teleportation of particles has been a scientifically verified occurence. Matter has also been verified to spontaneously switch from wave to matter and vice versa.
                           
                           Many incredibly smart people are working to understand why these things happen, even as we speak.

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               rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Are you trying to say you have all the answers, and are thus a perfect creation yourself?

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   Druid Dudeposted 12 years ago

   Because cleanliness is next to godliness...and there's nothing that compares to cleanliness!

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      rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Didnt you just compare cleanliness to godliness (cleanliness is next to godliness is a comparison, is it not) and then you said nothing compares to cleanliness?

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      Brenda Durhamposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      I don't think there's any such saying in the Bible....

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   Druid Dudeposted 12 years ago

   God(energy) exists in a realm where time and space have no meaning.

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      rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Yes but God(energy) also exist in our realm where space and time are measurable.

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   Druid Dudeposted 12 years ago

   Space is not measurable, and time is relative. Dark matter is measurable, but not identifiable, and is more a matter of "it should be there, but we can't see it" hence the term "dark matter". Energy is unaffected by time and space, and does exist inside and outside. Defining it as the prime God candidate, and postulating it's infinite age, (If energy remains unchanged, then age has no real meaning, then it becomes impossible to determine exactly when this universe came into being in relation to the evolution of the energy (hence God) and no way of determining at this time what may, or may not have preceded this reality.

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      rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Space is completely measurable as long as you have a constant point of reference. Whether or not we actually have a constant point of reference or not is currently not fully understood due to the constantly expanding nature of the universe.

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         Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Good one.

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            rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            thanks.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Really? Is not the term "light speed" a reference to a measurement of distance in space?
      
      
      
      Really? Is not the term "cosmological redshift" a reference to a measurement of how much electromagnetic radiation wavelengths increase due to the expansion of space over time?

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   gobibleposted 12 years ago

   It seems the topic changed to science.....

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      rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Religion and science are one in the same. They do not contradict each other unless your beliefs are flawed. Can your beliefs hold up?

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         A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Only on the planets Oa and Asgard.

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            rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Ok then explain to me how reality is NOT whatever you choose to believe.

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               A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               Simple, just choose to believe you can flap your arms and fly to see just how much reality will not support the flight.

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                  rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

                  Seems to me like you are the one living in a fantasy world if you really choose to believe that you can flap your wings and fly. You have no feathers, you are not very aerodynamic. Choose to believe things that make sense to you, and seem to make sense in the Universe and those things can become manifest. Greater knowledge of science, religion, philosophy, psychology, and any other subject will only help to make your goals and beliefs more realistic and achievable.
                  
                  Set realistic goals and you can reach those goals.

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      A Troubled Manposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Terribly sorry for talking foolishness instead of Christian Godliness.

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   knolyourselfposted 12 years ago

   Dictators probably definitely need a sense of Godliness.

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      gobibleposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      You are right to the point God is love.

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         rbe0posted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Luckily we figured out long ago that dictatorships don't work too well.

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