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Can't you simply live your life without a religion?

  1. GoldenBird profile image60
    GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago

    Are you myopic? Do you need your religion-glasses properly? No offence, I am indeed curious after watching the pious zeal around.

    1. GoldenBird profile image60
      GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      "to see properly?"

    2. mischeviousme profile image59
      mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I left religion because I was not living my own life, I was living the life religion wanted me to. Religion only steepened the illusion and made it that much harder to climb out of myself. Religion can trap the mind and make us blind to the real world, in religion we are not ourselve's. Be no one's puppet for your body and mind are your's.

      1. GoldenBird profile image60
        GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        What about it makes you your own slave?

        1. mischeviousme profile image59
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The problem is, that as westerners, we have been duped. We see only that which they want us to see and like perfect slaves we did exactly that.

          1. GoldenBird profile image60
            GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Any solution to that?

      2. wilmiers77 profile image60
        wilmiers77posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        You were missing the personal seeking of Christ Jesus which would have resulted in a relationship only between you and Jesus. Religion simply suggests a few general subjects to begin seeking God's thoughts and developing a relationship between You and God only in private. The Son of God, Jesus, is that mediator between You and God. Jesus is that first form for your mind since all thoughts are based on matter and the Spirit from God who needs no matter.

        1. mischeviousme profile image59
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Reality to the observer is an illusion of the mind. Even now is an illusion, for my mind is telling me that this is reality. So then, If I chose a God, it would be an illusion that I use to fit in with reality. Then also, this reality would be God for it is the creation of now. Tomorrow does not exist and now will not take me to the reality of tomorrow, for tomorrow will eventualy be now. Thus it will repeat every second of every minute of every hour, ad-infinitum.

          1. wilmiers77 profile image60
            wilmiers77posted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Romans 1:20 "For since the creation of the world God’s invisible qualities—his eternal power and divine nature—have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that people are without excuse."

            Matthew 6:33
            But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

            Seek a personal relationship with the Son of God, Jesus, who has God's Spirit. No church members or even pastor can do this for anyone....only U...

            1. mischeviousme profile image59
              mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I walked away from the church and the religion there of, because I was not learning anything of myself. I had learned that I should not cow tao to an idea that keeps me spiritualy hungry and yet I learn nothing of the real world from. I moved on because there is so much more to learn in the world then the emperical ideas of a people that are no longer living. I learned that I must live in the world and I have no choice but to be of it. I am part of this universe and Christianity only kept me from seeing it as it is. All else is an illusion and that illusion is comfortable, seems to be the running theme in religious circles.

    3. parrster profile image84
      parrsterposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Goldenbird, I think that religiosity is the natural progression from an acceptance that there is a supreme being and a desire to know him. Therefore, to ask if it is possible to live without religion, is to ask if it is possible to live without God.
      Is it possible to live without God? No, for we would not exist.
      Is it possible to live with God, but without seeking him? Yes, millions of people are doing that very thing.
      The more profound question might be, 'Is it better to seek God, or not, and why?'
      I like your question.

      1. A Troubled Man profile image60
        A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It is the acceptance of a BELIEF in a supreme being and the question is whether or not one can live without the belief, which is the same thing as if asking if one can live without mosquito bites. If any god existed, the acceptance to its existence would be evident and in agreement with everyone.



        Others have found things that were originally believed to be myths, but they were events few and far between and usually something physically real.

    4. Pcunix profile image89
      Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Well, seriously, do you think most people have a choice?

      People have religious beliefs because they need them.  They find value in there and they can't just shut it off and say 'I don't believe that any more".

      The other side is just as true.  I always rejected religion as superstitious nonsense.  I see the value and comfort that it can bring, but I can't just say "Oh, it would be helpful to believe, so I will".

      1. WD Curry 111 profile image61
        WD Curry 111posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Where I am from, we call this personal integrity.

        1. Pcunix profile image89
          Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No, that would be something different.  For example, if I pretended to be religious to gain work or a contract, I would not have integrity.

          I had an interesting situation some years back where I was called in on a problem and the owner wanted to know if I was "saved"  before I began working on the problem.  I answered honestly and he didn't want to hire me because I did.

          I said I understood, but  I didn't know of anyone else who could help without flying in from out of State at great expense and here I was, so why not let me fix it?  He would only agree if he could have an hour to "save" me - and he'd buy lunch.

          I told him that wasn't going to change my mind, but if he paid for lunch, I'd listen.  So I fixed his problem, he wrote me a check and we went to lunch.  He preached Jesus for an hour and I then left, still unsaved. He was disappointed but took it well.

          I guess we both acted with integrity.

    5. mathira profile image85
      mathiraposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Religion is like food to me as it is essential for my survival.I have a crutch in my religion to lean on when I am in trouble.

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    That would be a very un-natural thing to do.

    1. GoldenBird profile image60
      GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Indeed! big_smile

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    We should neither follow East nor the West; we should be with the Truth.

    1. mischeviousme profile image59
      mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Ah ha! And it is as simple as seeing the truth. Be awake and the world is beautiful, follow the dream and there will be nightmares.

    2. GoldenBird profile image60
      GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Some folks sold Truth for money.

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        paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        We should refuse to follow them

  4. AshtonFirefly profile image82
    AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago

    The problem is that religion has become too much about ritual and not enough about lifestyle.
    To me, religion=lifestyle, as defined by the teachings which later were organized into "organized religion" which nowadays is alot of times nothing more than a corporate business. hmm

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      paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I agree with you.

      Still one could find the truth and leave the garbage

      1. AshtonFirefly profile image82
        AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Possibly, yes.

        1. GoldenBird profile image60
          GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          And let paarsurrey make a solution for us big_smile

          1. AshtonFirefly profile image82
            AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Solution to what? lol

            1. GoldenBird profile image60
              GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Finding a shortcut lane to escape from the garbage-land. cool

              1. AshtonFirefly profile image82
                AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                lol garbage-land? smile

                1. GoldenBird profile image60
                  GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Sounds like Disneyland! big_smile

                  1. AshtonFirefly profile image82
                    AshtonFireflyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    LOL. Except not as enjoyable.

                    Unless you're a goat...

              2. mischeviousme profile image59
                mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                There are no short cuts, just a long road between the "Maternity ward and the crematorium".

                1. GoldenBird profile image60
                  GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Birds can walk a little distance. They cheat their walking-capacity when they spread their wings and fly.

                  1. mischeviousme profile image59
                    mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    But that is a bird and we have no wings and I have never been on a plain.

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    Search, struggle and pray to the Creator God to be steadfast on the truthful path; wherever it is, with whomsoever it is.

    1. GoldenBird profile image60
      GoldenBirdposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Are you asking "the Creator God to be steadfast on the truthful path"?  big_smile

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        paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Yes, I do pray; one should not waver away from the truthful path

  6. Kyle Payne profile image62
    Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago

    I can live without it, but I would not be happy.

  7. WD Curry 111 profile image61
    WD Curry 111posted 5 years ago

    GoldenBird - I am done with the Religion and Philosophy forum for awhile. I have more fruitful pursuits. Out of respect for you and your work, I will answer your question. I can only speak for myself. Faith and religion are not always synonymous. I cannot live without faith.

    Yes, sometimes I have proven to be spiritually myopic, but Jehovah Gyra has proven to be patient with me. God bless you. You are a world class talent.

    1. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yes, they are and yes, you can. smile

  8. melpor profile image90
    melporposted 5 years ago

    Of course you can live your life without religion. There are many people who are doing just that.  Religion is just the thought or some form of hope people carry in their mind believing that there is something after this life once we die if you want to generalize it. One day we will find out when the time come.

  9. yolanda yvette profile image60
    yolanda yvetteposted 5 years ago

    Of course a person can live their life without religion.  God gives us all freewill, right?  And since He does why is it necessary for some people to oppose the right of each individual to choose their own way.  Non-believers seem to spend an awful lot of time accusing believers of trying to convert them, yet fail to see that they're doing the same thing trying to convince us to disbelieve.  Interesting.

    1. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Interesting? How dishonest is that?

      There wouldn't be accusations if believers weren't commanded to evangelize their religion and didn't put that into action.

      Non-believers are simply pointing out they don't want to be evangelized and can find out information on Jesus any time they want. They wouldn't have anything to do with convincing anyone of anything if it were not for the evangelizing of your religion.

      Try to be honest when you post such things. Interesting, indeed.

      1. lizzieBoo profile image78
        lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        How are you going to cope when you realise that other people are being completely honest?

        1. A Troubled Man profile image60
          A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          The moment they actually are completely honest, and not before.

  10. Bill Yovino profile image90
    Bill Yovinoposted 5 years ago

    Religion exists because humans are aware that they will ultimately die, and need to create something to distract them from that eventuality.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Yeah, fear of hell

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    Can't you simply live your life without a religion


    Truthful religion is very useful; so why live without it?

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I live in a bible belt town, you mean switch to Muslim, then I would be really living lonely as hell.

  12. BettyPetite profile image60
    BettyPetiteposted 5 years ago

    Religion is a wide-spread accepted belief in a culture. There're many religions correspond to different cultures. So, living without a specific religion, sure. But I think, a belief system is necessary to establish at least some orders and gatherings, and traditions for a culture. This however shouldn't be so strict though. And I think many people find hope in religion. Bottom line, yes, living without religion (as so defined as these organized religions nowaday) but in a broader sense of a belief system, no, the society as a whole or a culture always needs a belief system (ex: one god/des, multi god/dess, universe, karma, etc...)

    1. Bill Yovino profile image90
      Bill Yovinoposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Religion is a wide-spread, accepted delusion.

      1. Pcunix profile image89
        Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Well, self delusion maybe.  But I think delusion is too strong.  It's a comforting belief that never gets examined closely.  I think most people are smart enough to know that their beliefs are confused and contradictory, but they don't care.  They don't want to look too close.

        And really, that's ok.  No harm, no foul.

        1. wilmiers77 profile image60
          wilmiers77posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Call religion a delusion if you must. But, the ones with faith is experiencing a confirmation continually in the natural world, seeing many signs of things predicted. So, it appears that delusions has the possibility of becoming reality!

          1. Pcunix profile image89
            Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No confirmations except those that could come from self hypnosis.

            1. wilmiers77 profile image60
              wilmiers77posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              No, confirmation received by born again Christians springs from their experiences and the way things are presently; it can be a sudden revelation with pure clearity, a new reality for all time. This is far from "fooling one's self".

          2. mischeviousme profile image59
            mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            History repeats itself, for we tend to live in the past. Then it appears as if something said is now becoming a reality. I can always guess the outcome and sometimes I will be right, this does not mean that it is divinely inspired. What is divine is the fact that there is now that we can exist in. Now is God, for now is a miracle as long as I am part of it. I woke up breathing and now that I am still alive is a miracle. The fact that this universe exists is a miracle and there is no way we can fully understand it, only be with it.

            1. wilmiers77 profile image60
              wilmiers77posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Living in the "now" could mostlikely have success for a small band of people, but once the group grows into the millions a more general belief sysem is needed. If the belief system is not expanded, than the energies of all persons interacting become like a pot of water on the fire which heats up, and if not allowed to expand explodes.

              Religion is a stablizer, a cohesiveness, and a vent for a continuing peaceful society.

              1. mischeviousme profile image59
                mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                If it were the way you said it was, the second a person questioned it, the water would explode and the individual thinker would be cast out or killed. That is what happened in the past and it spans almost all religious belief. Religion is dangerous and it can lead to dangerous behavior.

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    paarsurreyposted 5 years ago

    Life won't be simple without the truthful religion

    1. Pcunix profile image89
      Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Really?  I havent noticed any problem with my life.

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        paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Because it has been kept in safe limits by the Creator God; so everbody takes it for granted.

        1. Pcunix profile image89
          Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Oh, so I dont have to believe in nonsense for it to protect me?

    2. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Perhaps, some prefer a more complicated life rather than being simple.

  14. Cassie Smith profile image74
    Cassie Smithposted 5 years ago

    People do every day.

  15. Bill Yovino profile image90
    Bill Yovinoposted 5 years ago

    Religious people don't have a monopoly on morality. In fact, history shows that some of the least moral, least humane people who have walked this earth were very religious. Religion = discrimination, alienation, and persecution. Just say no.

  16. phillippeengel profile image72
    phillippeengelposted 5 years ago

    I can live a life without a religion, but a religion cannot live without a life.

 
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