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People. What is that?

  1. Kyle Payne profile image61
    Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago

    What are your qualifications that you believe an entity must possess to be a person?

    1. Randy Godwin profile image93
      Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Being able to ask interesting questions.  smile

      1. mischeviousme profile image59
        mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Being a person. That's my answer, just being. Is a snake not being a snake? Is a gopher not being a gopher?

        1. Randy Godwin profile image93
          Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          See Kyle, that's the ways it's done! tongue

          1. Kyle Payne profile image61
            Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            To be something an entity must possess certain qualities that allow it to be that certain thing. My qeustion is, what qualities must an entity possess to be a person?

        2. Kyle Payne profile image61
          Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          What assertions does being a person possess?

          1. Randy Godwin profile image93
            Randy Godwinposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            I think of assertions as being given, not possessed. But as mischieviousme pointed out above, I'm just a snake.

          2. mischeviousme profile image59
            mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            If you are a Zen master, nothing. If you are philosopher, everything. I cannot put into words an answer that will make sense. I can try. Life is a doing and in doing life, we are being. The assertions that we make will not tell us what it is to be a person, we just are. I guess the only thing that I could say about the person is, the body. My person as I know it, is my body. But the person is not the mind. By this, I am saying that, we cannot feel our minds. We can however feel our bodies, so in this sense, mind is just as much a hard thing to define as person. That is the best I can do for you. Is it satisfactory?

            1. Kyle Payne profile image61
              Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              To an extent. Would you consider a mentally retarded person a person?

              1. mischeviousme profile image59
                mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I would say they are the person in which they feel themselve's. To me, mentally retarded people are far more enlightened than rationally thinking normal adults. By this I am saying, that we have to think about what we feel. A mentally retarded person just feels what they feel. Example; when you ask a normally functioning person what they want, they say "I'll have to think about it". If you do the same for a mentally retarded person, they will just tell you. They do not have to think about it.

                1. Kyle Payne profile image61
                  Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Would you consider a person in a vegatative state a person?

                  1. mischeviousme profile image59
                    mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I'd have to be a vegitable to answer that one. The particulars of certain aspects of life are just assertions on our part. How do we even know to call ourselve's people? This is anassertion. The same can be said of the words we use for up and down. They are assertions and in assertaning something, we have to label the experience. I looked up? I walked? We had to answer the questions and we had to make up words for them.

          3. Jerami profile image77
            Jeramiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Now !   ....  This a question worth pondering!

            1. Kyle Payne profile image61
              Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              What do you think?

              1. Jerami profile image77
                Jeramiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                being a being?    ....   I Am that which I think that I AM!

                  Who can I blame for that?   OR Who gets the credit?

                  A Rabbit thinks that it is, ....  Am I so different.

                  A blade of grass  .... ?  I don't think that it knows what it is.

                  I just know that I AM different is some ways than it is!

                1. Kyle Payne profile image61
                  Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Do you believe a mind alone can be a person?

    2. kess profile image59
      kessposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      The ability to recognise the two opposing positions...eg. Up down, Left right, Light dark, death life, the ultimate pair which is I Am as oppose to I am not...

    3. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      A person is a human being. That's about it. smile

    4. LewSethics profile image61
      LewSethicsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Individuality, otherwise you are just part of the herd.

      1. mischeviousme profile image59
        mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Individuality is an illusion, a thing for it is also an illusion of "self" and "I". We are many people within ourselve's. By this, I am saying that we act parts to suit the situation, but we are not being an individual unless we give up all of ourselve's. When we let go of all the selves, we become one with the many.

        1. couturepopcafe profile image61
          couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Yes, indviduality if you're talking on the outer level of DNA. No, if you're talking on a level of pure energy. Concepts and illusions notwithstanding, what we know about energy is that it is all the same. What we don't know about energy is what we don't know.

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    Emile Rposted 5 years ago

    If you are a homo sapien, you qualify as a person. Nothing more is required.

    1. Kyle Payne profile image61
      Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      You basically used a synonomous tern to define itself.

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        Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Whatever it takes. I found your questions in the thread somewhat offensive. So I posted.

        1. Kyle Payne profile image61
          Kyle Payneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I am truly sorry

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            Emile Rposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            No apologies necessary. smile

  3. LewSethics profile image61
    LewSethicsposted 5 years ago

    Gee I hate it when someone tells me I'm an illusion.

    1. mischeviousme profile image59
      mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I am an illusion, which is why I try not to say I but we or our. The illusion is a mass hallucination and "I" is at the center of it.

  4. LewSethics profile image61
    LewSethicsposted 5 years ago

    Wow, that would be really heavy except for the fact that illusion doesn't have a capital I in it.

    1. mischeviousme profile image59
      mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      the "I" in an essay is always capitolized. This is because the writer is using his own experience to expand on. Experience is personal and therefor is mistaken for the person.

      1. LewSethics profile image61
        LewSethicsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        OK, I guess Wisdom is where the Wiz lives. 
        So the writer is an illusion, and the writers experience is also an illusion, is the essay also an illusion?  Or are essays real, but about illusory things?

        1. mischeviousme profile image59
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          They are about the illusion of experience. What has happened in the past is an illusion and we grasp at it, because we believe that is who we are. The past is only defined as "ago", not now. The true experience is now and every moment of the ago, is the result. The future also exists as an illiusion, for that is what we aspire to. Letting go of these can set us free.

          1. LewSethics profile image61
            LewSethicsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            oh

            1. mischeviousme profile image59
              mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              It's very easy, but we complicate it by trying. We try to understand it and thus, it does not come to us. We try to force it to have meaning and all that truly has meaning is now, right this instant.

              1. LewSethics profile image61
                LewSethicsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                But you understand it.  You must have a huge brain.

                1. mischeviousme profile image59
                  mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  It is but a crumb in the carpet of space, mind is eternal, in an eternity of now.

      2. couturepopcafe profile image61
        couturepopcafeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        @mischevious - experience is the person whether termed as truth, illusion, concept or consciousness.  What we choose to experience is what defines us right now. That being said, your view is completely valid but only when it is the chosen "experience".

        1. mischeviousme profile image59
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          That is not the point. When someone asks my name, I simply say Bob. That is not who I truly am, but it is who I am "now", Right this instant. Who knows what the next moment hold's? The entire meaning of it is conceptual and is up to observation, but defining ourselve's as the past, is not observing now.

  5. David Pech profile image60
    David Pechposted 5 years ago

    a mind is a terrible thing to taste

    1. cheaptrick profile image74
      cheaptrickposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      A little hot sauce helps.

      1. mischeviousme profile image59
        mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Maybe some chiante or fava beans?

 
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