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   mischeviousmeposted 12 years ago

   If anyone can tell me why this is, without science or religion, I'll say then you deserve to be heard. So then. Why does any of this exist? To further refine this question, I shall ask this. How do any of us know that this is at all and that the illusion of it is not just a dream we are having?

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      MelissaBarrettposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      It exists, it doesn't need a why.

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         mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That is logical and rational, though the question requires much thought to answer honestly. I know that it is, but I will never know why. To release the preconception that this exists at all, is to be free of the illusions of why, in our own minds. The best way to answer questions like this, is to ask me why I asked it.

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            Muldaniaposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            You're right that you will never know why.  None of us will ever know why, and that is something difficult for the human mind, which is used to asking why to understand.  That is why we create explanations, whether spiritual or scientific.

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               mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

               It is only a truth, but it has ever released my heart and mind. It is this letting go that has brought me peace. Let go of the idea that my way is right and your way automatically becomes wrong, but we are the same.

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      manlypoetrymanposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Because it's "there"!

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      Jeff Berndtposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      'Cos?

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      kessposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      This is because this is It! and the the It is Life.
      
      We are experiencing the phase where Life is mixed with its own illussions.
      When the illussion is identified and separated, we now see Life in all its glory...
      
      all serving ONE GOOD PURPOSE
      
      At that point they would know Life and Life is all of which is worth Living.

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   couturepopcafeposted 12 years ago

   This (any association with Creation) is here for the sake of the seer; for the distinct recognition of the objective world as well as for the recognition of the distinct nature of the seer.

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      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      The observer only exists in the ego and is influenced by the illusion of self. Because I am an "I", my eyes will only ever see what I want them to.

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         couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         That's the theory.  At least until one can create dissassociation from the seen whereby we gain independence through desirelessness.

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   Emile Rposted 12 years ago

   When you attempt to resolve the why you have no choice but to turn to science or philosophy. Without those, there is no question. It simply is. Philosophy will always lead to religion if it doesn't turn to science. The why is too big  and unanswerable through any other means.

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      mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      In zen, this line of thinking brings about an even greater question. Why does it matter?

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         Emile Rposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Does it?

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            mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            It shouldn't.

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   bloggernotjoggerposted 12 years ago

   Existance is random and thoughtless. There is no why. A better question would be How?

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      couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      Agree. How: By self-control over single moments there is wisdom born of discrimination which leads to recognition of intuition (discriminative knowledge). Taken to the highest power (in theory) association with awareness ceases. Only pure consciousness remains or absolute freedom.

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         mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         See how easy it is. One does not need religion to find liberation. Liberation comes from within, not without. We all have the light, we just can't see it nor can we feel it. But the light has no name and is eternal in that sense. We could guess for an eternity and fling names at it, but will never understand it and in accepting the unknowing, we are able to move with it. The light is the illumination of the mind and is yet an illusion of self.

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            couturepopcafeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            Might have to disagree with some of this, maybe just on a technicality. 
            
            We can see and feel the light, we just don't (want to, know how to, try to).
            
            At some point, we will understand it.

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   psycheskinnerposted 12 years ago

   It exists because existing is good, or it just exists for no reason and we got lucky that it's good--makes very little difference either way.

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      Druid Dudeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

      We are here to continue the journey. What journey? The struggle towards full civilization. We are here to build upon what has already been done before us. We are here to cut, dress, and push the stones into their proper places. Peel back the layers of the glass onion to reveal the secrets...all of them...and if possible, to know all that is knowable. Once we have the answers we seek, we will acquire new questions.

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         irishexaminerposted 12 years agoin reply to this

         Decarte said  'I exist therefore I am'. 
         
         Why am 'I' ?
         
         Because I exist.
         
         All these posts are searching.  Yes it is true, I believe that we cannot as we presently exist fully comprehend the fullness of the mystery, that somehow we recognize is yet to be discovered.
         
         What is this mystery, light, knowledge, fullness, completeness?  I believe we discover little snippets of what this mystery is. It could be when we sit by the sea and something within us feels overpowered by its beauty.  Or perhaps when we feel a deep sense of love for somebody, or maybe it is being loved by somebody else.
         
         Whatever it is, it is not complicated - it is simple and it is discovered ,not taught.  There are some questions that cannot be answered and its ok.  Acceptance leads to greater enlightenment deeper  understanding and peace.

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            mischeviousmeposted 12 years agoin reply to this

            

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