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Spiritualism

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    Muldaniaposted 5 years ago

    I have been attending a Spiritualist church for some years, and the difficulty has been in trying to decide what I do and don't believe in.  I always approach everything with a certain amount of scepticism, but with an open mind.  I have decided that I do believe, based on personal evidence that many people do have a sixth sense, or psychic ability.  Although my personal experiences are not going to be evidence for anyone else.  So, for those who believe in such possibilities, what have been the experiences which led you to such a belief.  Or for those who don't, have there been experiences which have led to your disbelief?

    1. mischeviousme profile image60
      mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      My ex-girlfriend was in the throws of a horrible nightmare, so I touched her and saw her dream. I was able to explain all that she saw and it was quite a frightening nightmare. She was being chased by a bearded man and I described him as he looked to her. Needless to say, she broke up with me, because she thought I knew everything about her. It was an isolated incident, but it was very real.

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        Muldaniaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        This reminds me of a night, when I was young, and I had the exact same dream as my mother.  In the dreams, my mom was a singer in a night club, and she was dating an Afro-Caribbean man.  Every detail was the same.  It wasn't a premonition, as it has not reflected reality at all.  However, it did make me wonder how such a thing was possible.

        1. mischeviousme profile image60
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          It was a representation of the collective consciousness, The thing that makes us truly the same. When I see you, I see me. When you see me, you see you. The dream is deep state and the consciousness will take us anywhere it wants.

    2. tjg777 profile image59
      tjg777posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I encourage you to leave all sorts of spiritualism behind except that of following Jesus Christ . Everything concerning the Spiritualist Church has been forbidden by God Himself as recorded in the bible

    3. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lol Sorry dude, no one has psychic abilities. It's pure gobbledegook.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image26
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        your are limiting your thinking

        1. mischeviousme profile image60
          mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Most people are limited by the ivory tower of ego and have yet to come down. You are not the in crowd because you are different and others don't like it for they have the dellusion of self and the illusion of importance. You are welcome here anytime.

          1. A Troubled Man profile image60
            A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            And, there are those who use gobbledegook to defend gobbledegook.

            1. mischeviousme profile image60
              mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I agree with you. If it comes from the mouth or the mind, it is probably gobbledegook.

        2. A Troubled Man profile image60
          A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No, you're just not using yours.

          1. mischeviousme profile image60
            mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            That was a very wise statement. I bow to you as an equal. smile

            1. Castlepaloma profile image26
              Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              What ever work, go for it, if it dose not change it

              I won't really put down anyone thinking , just sometime humor mock or ask deeply concern question when it dose not make sense or understand it

              1. mischeviousme profile image60
                mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                The fool is wisest when not thinking.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image26
                  Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Yes, we can think too much

  2. Richieb799 profile image62
    Richieb799posted 5 years ago

    I have had experiences with spiritualists and I also believe some people have abilities but I agree with you personal experience is not proof for others.

    1. Jean Bakula profile image93
      Jean Bakulaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I belong to the NJ Metaphysical Society, and for awhile they met in a spiritualist church. It only means that you believe in reincarnation or an afterlife. To me, I can't make sense of the terrible pain and suffering good people face, or the great lives evil people can have, unless the law of karma is true, and we learn in each different incarnation. To be a spiritualist, you only have to believe in an afterlife, it's pretty simple. I have written quite alot on metaphysical topics if you care to check it out. I believe in a divine power or source of some type, but do not believe in any kind of organized religion. I see mischeviousme on lots of the same hubs, and we both  read and listen to lectures from a man who passed on in 1973, Alan Watts. He was from England, an Episcopalian minister when he came to the US, and ended up a great scholar of Eastern religions. Some sects of Buddhism belief in reincarnation, and I'm reading lots of Watts. I have two hubs that feature youtube lectures of him that may help you. I hope you find your way, we all do. According to Edgar Cayce, it took Jesus 30 incarnations to get to be the Son of God (if you believe he was). I just think he was an amazing person, trying to tell people "the kingdom is within you" meaning inside you, your chakras. He was telling everyone they could do just as he did, it was meditation for the most part. His message was way misintepreted.

      1. mischeviousme profile image60
        mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        The mind interprets what ever illusion it wants to. That is the "I" in us and is an extension of the ego. What the "I" desires is not always in the best interest of the self.

  3. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
    mistyhorizon2003posted 5 years ago

    I do believe there are some excellent Mediums in spite of the many fakes out there. A good Medium does not ask questions, does not know anything about you, usually including your surname and address, does not know why you are seeing them or who you have lost and does not give loads of inaccurate information before finally 'hitting' on the odd piece of vaguely correct information. Trust me, I have even got my money back from one Medium on this basis. A good medium will tell you to 'keep quiet' if you even try to speak in a way that implies you are about to give away information that might make you doubt the authenticity of the information they are about to provide. I have not yet ever had an impressive experience in a spiritualist church personally, but guess it can happen if you are there on the right night with a good medium.

    The two good ones I saw never knew any of the information I listed above, and did not come from anywhere even close to where I lived or came from. To list some of the amazing info they gave me read on:

    I was told all the details about my late Husband (even though I was only in my early 30's so unlikely to be a widow). These details included the limp he had on his right leg (from a car accident a year before his death), the fact he had a large bi-coloured dog with him, about the size of a German Shepherd (he used to breed German Shepherds, and we had also lost a Doberman the year before he died that I had asked him to come back and let me know they were both okay if ever he died before me). She described the horrible way his Sons had treated me after he died and told me how ashamed he was of them. Additionally she described in great detail our large farmhouse kitchen, right down to the 'L' shape of it and the furniture within it, and what was in one of those pieces of furniture in terms of 'paperwork', (which turned out to be the Guernsey newspaper with our wedding photo in it and the write up on where we had gone on honeymoon etc).

    The other medium some years earlier told me all about my deceased Father, and even visibly experienced all the ill health symptoms in front of me, (extreme coughing, choking etc). Again she did not know I had lost my Father, and I was still young to have lost a Father (he had been 56 when I was born and when I saw her I was still only in my early 20's). She told me my Father knew how difficult he had been to live with, and he was happy with the man my Mum had now met, (and who my Mum is still married to now over 17 years later). She also named various people I had never heard of, but when I quoted the names back to my Mother at a later date she immediately knew these were relatives she recalled that died long before I was born or knew about them.

    So yes, I do believe there is 'something' after this world. I don't know exactly what, and I am not a Christian in the Catholic sense of the word, plus I don't go with the Bible because of my lack of belief in the accuracy of it due to translation errors, manipulations etc, and the fact so many Christians condemn spiritualists/mediums as evil (why?). Am I religious? No, I don't think so depending on your definition of religious, but that does not mean I think there is nothing afterwards.

    Hope this helps.

    Love and Light smile

  4. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
    mistyhorizon2003posted 5 years ago

    Can I add another instance I just remembered? When I was living in Tenerife and with a fiance who turned out to be a complete control freak, we were in a bar one night where he was performing (he was a professional singer). We had been chatting to a young couple for a few minutes before he had gone on stage. The bar was quite noisy and loads of people were milling around. I had never met this couple before, and nor had my fiance. The young chap went off to the bar to buy a round of drinks and I carried on talking to his girlfriend. When he came back a few minutes later he suddenly said to me 'Who's Dave?'. I honestly nearly passed out, and immediately answered 'that was my Husband'. To cut a long story short the chap (in his 20's), went on to tell me that Dave knew (again) how badly his family had treated me, but that he was sorry and he was always around me. This lad's girlfriend said to me (after probably seeing me go white), 'Don't worry, this sort of thing happens to him all the time' (meaning her boyfriend). It was amazing. Sadly my fiance (now a definite ex), did not see things the same way, and was furious when he came off stage that I had not been hanging on his every song and applauding him. He accused them (to me at least) of being frauds, con-men etc, although he could not ever explain to me how the guy knew Dave's name (with no wrong guesses first), or what on earth they had to gain from being fraudulent or what the 'con' actually was. There was no money involved, it was just a conversation, and we never saw them again.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image26
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Did go to a few spiritualist churches, enjoy it a lot, learn I have a sixth sense and use it on rare moment, because too many people thinks I'm too crazy and most people don't really want to know.

      1. mischeviousme profile image60
        mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Knowing is impossible if the "I" is in the way. We tend to have the experience that "I" percieves. To clarify this. "I" is the self we percieve as us, but it is not us. We are it. In being it, we are not being with the oneness of everything else. I am what I see and it is me.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image26
          Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          There is something godlike high energy I do not fully understand, It connects all things from the system within your body to the system in the Universe. In any given moments and unknown times, it can move messages like a soft voice into my subconscious like magic.

          I must warn you, I am a little nutty

          1. mischeviousme profile image60
            mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            " The chaos of insanity is a form of sanity in a chatic world". Umberto Echo...

            Crazy people are closest to true enlightenment, for they do not judge past or future, they are crazy now and the "I" does not matter.

            1. Castlepaloma profile image26
              Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Maybe your among the 10% fearless people willing to adventure the degrees of truths

              1. mischeviousme profile image60
                mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                I am not important. I am just as you are, a bit of consciousness behind the eyes and it is irrelevant to the now. I am you and you are me and so is the moon and the tree.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image26
                  Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  All is important, my concern is so many people want to separate from each other , I feel spiritualism is the glue for our future, where people learn to control their fears and accept what is.

                  1. mischeviousme profile image60
                    mischeviousmeposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    That will happen if we let them, we cannot will it to be.

                  2. tjg777 profile image59
                    tjg777posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Jesus Christ and nothing else is the glue to all mankinds future otherwise they will definately become unstuck

        2. poeticmentor profile image80
          poeticmentorposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          love it.

      2. mistyhorizon2003 profile image89
        mistyhorizon2003posted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Too many people jump to the 'ridiculing it' knee jerk reaction, yet forget that even Police Forces have a history of using psychics, (think TV's Psychic Detectives, Psychic Witness etc) with a good degree of success. The general public's lack of belief in the subject (or willingness to admit any belief), makes others who believe scared to admit it for fear of ridicule, (very annoying). I like to think independently, and as far as I am concerned, if the individual gives me enough information that is specific, private, and not something they could possibly have known, found out elsewhere, or I have given them, then I am impressed enough to believe.

  5. pearpandas profile image59
    pearpandasposted 5 years ago

    I think that it is just based more on my own intuition.  I can usually get a feeling when I'm about to win something.  Like if there is a draw for a prize in front of people, I get butterflies, but only if I'm about to win - it is really weird.  Also when I met my now boyfriend it was pretty serendipidous.  I won't go into too many details, but there was definately a 6th sense going on on that one!

    1. Castlepaloma profile image26
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I was once very competitive person in sport and in the arts that was strong with the ego,Today it's more about cooperation and sharing in my Artist lifestyle, bring it to a spiritual higher level

 
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