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You are not so clever as you think

  1. Disappearinghead profile image88
    Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago via iphone

    Why is it that the workings of the brain, the organs, the immune system, and all those processes that keep us alive, show more intelligence than the consciousness that inhabits?

    Given that by observation of the natural world and the cosmos we observe things that we could never have invented, is it any wonder that man created religion in an attempt to explain it all?

    Come on people don't be so harsh on those that have a faith. It's one thing to be able to explain the universe and origins of life, but quite another to come up with the "designs" in the first place. We might say that "life finds a way to evolve by itself", but why is it so? Why should life "care" that it continues to exist?

    God cannot be proven by scientific measure, but for me philosophical arguments make a good case for His existence.

    1. paradigmsearch profile image89
      paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Any idea when he is coming back from His vacation?

      1. Disappearinghead profile image88
        Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        That depends upon the selected religion.

        1. paradigmsearch profile image89
          paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Any of them saying sometime this decade?

          1. Disappearinghead profile image88
            Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Errrr not that I'm aware of.

            1. paradigmsearch profile image89
              paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

              1. Disappearinghead profile image88
                Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                All I know is that during my 25 years in Church I was told that God talks to everyone, that is, He came back from holiday 2000 years ago. I've certainly met hundreds of people who think God is talking to them all the time. But if I'm honest I can't recall a single occasion where I have heard God or seen evidence of His involvement in my life. So no I cannot prove God from experience as I'm supposed to be able to according to the Church.

                1. paradigmsearch profile image89
                  paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  An open, questioning mind is a good thing. I try to practice the same. smile

                  1. Disappearinghead profile image88
                    Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Me too. smile

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                  paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I think that you think Jesus to be a god; no, Jesus was neither a god or a son of god.

    2. A Troubled Man profile image61
      A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Sure, as long as they keep their faith behind closed doors.

      That isn't reality, though.

      1. Disappearinghead profile image88
        Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Is it the religion you object to or the actions of its adherents?

        1. A Troubled Man profile image61
          A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Bringing it out in public to evangelize.

          Brainwashing children is abuse, which everyone should object.

          1. Pcunix profile image88
            Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            It isn't abuse if the kids like it.  Most do, unfortunately.

            I agree that it CAN be abuse for some  but I think the principles of freedom of religion force us to look the other  way. 

            I would have to see extreme behavior before I'd want to interfere in that area.

      2. aka-dj profile image79
        aka-djposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Ot could be equally valid to say, keep yourself out of earshot.
        Heck, no-one forces you to enter the RELIGION forum.

        Stay out. No-one will bother you with it.
        I certainly wouldn't be chasing you down. lol lol lol

        1. A Troubled Man profile image61
          A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          You have the right to practice your religion, but not when it affects other people. Telling others to just go away when you do affect them is not practicing your religion, it is being  disrespectful of others.

          But, I don't think you'll ever understand that.

          1. aka-dj profile image79
            aka-djposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            So, if you don't want to be affected, "go away" lol

            We each affect other people irrespective of religion, but you probably don't understand that either. lol

    3. Pcunix profile image88
      Pcunixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Why should life "care" that it continues to exist?

      Because the creatures that don't care don't live long enough to reproduce.

      As to designs, the designs are often not that good.  Our eyes, for example, are poor design because of our "blind spot".  A squid has a much better design - no blind spot.   I guess your "designer"  forgot that design when he got around to making us quite a few million years later.

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      paarsurreyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I agree with you; the Creator God does exist.

  2. Wesman Todd Shaw profile image91
    Wesman Todd Shawposted 5 years ago

    Well, I think you scored yourself a reader with this forum post anyway.

  3. Insane Mundane profile image60
    Insane Mundaneposted 5 years ago

    As the old adage states, "I think, therefore I am."

    1. aka-dj profile image79
      aka-djposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      lol
      "I think, and therefore I have thoughts."
      lol

      1. Insane Mundane profile image60
        Insane Mundaneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        If I were to mock that, I would say:
        lol
        "You stink, and therefore you have smells."
        lol

        But, I'm not in a mocking and jeering mood right now, so congrats on whatever it is that you just said; cheers!

        1. aka-dj profile image79
          aka-djposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Chill out.
          It was meant to be humorous.
          I thought some others might find it funny. smile

  4. mega1 profile image78
    mega1posted 5 years ago

    Cultivate a peaceful mind

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    icountthetimesposted 5 years ago

    Why the assumption that there is a design or a plan?

    1. Insane Mundane profile image60
      Insane Mundaneposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I assume it has something to do with the non-randomness of it all and how we can identify certain laws and properties and the order therin; this most likely takes a slight bit of awareness and scientific discernment, for some, of course.     Then again, if mythical woo-woo has you confused, you can always stumble upon quantum theories of particles that are smaller than an atom, and we all know about how empy space leads to particle-filled madness. Ha! You do the math, and it all makes sense...

  6. WD Curry 111 profile image61
    WD Curry 111posted 5 years ago

    Maybe I can't make a good argument for the existence of God. However, you have provided ample evidence of your unbridled enthusiasm to waste my time.

 
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