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Who has the bigger impact on the world, Jesus or Darwin?

  1. Castlepaloma profile image22
    Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago

    Out of the whole world, it is probably only a tiny percent that believes in creationism. Yet most of the world's people and other Religions, study Evolution.

    1. aka-dj profile image80
      aka-djposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      One small detail, though.

      Darwin is DEAD!

      Jesus is ALIVE.

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        Cranfordjsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        *sigh*

      2. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Like Jesus, Darwin teachings are still alive and thriving.

        Is Elvis the King, alive? I’m sure he was on stage somewhere. Saw Jesus walking the streets on Halloween, and met a few others claiming to be Jesus on speakers corner.

        1. aka-dj profile image80
          aka-djposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          No. Not the same thing.

          Darwin's body is decomposed in a grave somewhere. I don't know, but I suppose it's no secret where he's buried.

          Jesus NOT SO. The tomb was empty, and still is.
          And before you counter arguments, the authorities of the day could have found, recovered and displayed His body to the whole world. They would have killed any hope of a resurrected Jesus being preached and followed, all in one act.

          1. Castlepaloma profile image22
            Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Darwin live to age 71, Jesus lived to age 33 and that was an old man for those hardship times
            Many religions and professional scientist said Jesus did not return from the dead.
            My imagination most often manifest itself into this physical world, your imagination is lost in space

            1. lizzieBoo profile image78
              lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Are you also aware that Darwin wasn't the first to come up with the theory of evolution?

              1. Phoenix Jay profile image59
                Phoenix Jayposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Kind of irrelevant isn't it? As a scientist you have to have proof for things for them to matter. No one else had supplied any evidence, however I'm sure many had pitched the idea.

                All in all this is a pretty silly question to begin with. Not like anyone is going to sway someone.

                Also when you really get down to it the answer has nothing to do with who was right or wrong, merely who changed the world the most, for better or worse.

                1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                  Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  I can not imagine any group or leader ever winning One World Order

                  Yet the Bible has given many of us a grand royal pain,  in trying to do so

                  1. Jerami profile image79
                    Jeramiposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    The one world order of which the bible spoke of WAS ... when the world such as it was known at "THAT" time ; ...  WAS ...  when the dominate leader of the "Known" world  (at THAT time)created a religion which everyone (at that time) had to submitt or suffer the consequences!!!!!

                       Constantine WAS that world leader; and he established a religion (government sponcered) which approx 67 years later took controll over THAT government institutition. 
                       The Western Roman Empire soon came to be known as the HOLY Roman Empire.

                        Approx. 380 years after John said that it was coming "SOON",

                       And then a second beast rose up out of the earth; (Islam) And anyone that wouldn't worship the first beast OR itself would suffer the consequences.

                        John wrote that "A" religion would rise up coming between God and his chosen people.   

                        2nd peter 1:20  ....   Prophesy of scripture has NO private interpretation.    "BUT" we have been taught differently.
                       
                      That alone should tell us something ????    Guess NOT?

          2. A Troubled Man profile image60
            A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            In other words, there is hard evidence Darwin existed. Thanks for that. lol

        2. calpol25 profile image76
          calpol25posted 5 years ago in reply to this

          http://28.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lk7wviL1VU1qj07b2o1_500.jpg

          1. Castlepaloma profile image22
            Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Who would win, by the art of not fighting?

            1. calpol25 profile image76
              calpol25posted 5 years ago in reply to this

              I dont know, but would be fun to find out smile

              1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                 Jesus told his disciples to sell their clothes and use the money to buy a  (Luke 22:35-38) Jesus tell you to hate your family in Luke 14:26?

                Then Jesus goes to hell and tell the people in hell he is suffering worst than they are


                Where Darwin seem mild mattered

                I say Dar-WIN the art of no fighting

                1. calpol25 profile image76
                  calpol25posted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  I agree Darwin wins smile

                  1. Paul Wingert profile image80
                    Paul Wingertposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    Jesus preached the ideas and philosophies of John the Baptist 2000 years ago. Darwin lived in the 19th Century (born on the same day and year as Abraham Lincoln) and was a man of science. During Jesus' time, there was no science, just stories and myth and basic understandings of the world by simple observation. People at that time were born, live and died within a 20 mile radius, believed the earth was flat, that sea monsters existed. Science didn't really come about until the lathe 15th Century. By the way, the Vatican is open to evolution and the Big Bang.

    2. lizzieBoo profile image78
      lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Is this a trick question or have you been frozen in ice as an experiment?

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        With question like that,  I wonder have Christian evolved that much?

        1. lizzieBoo profile image78
          lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          I'm not sure if anyone has done much evolving in the last 2000 years, but I'm no scientist.
          I'm wondering, what does it mean to live your life based on evolutionary principles? Do you find the waiting around gets a bit repetitive?

          1. A Troubled Man profile image60
            A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            It's exactly what we're all doing right now.

            1. lizzieBoo profile image78
              lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              What, waiting around?

              1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Most are not waiting around for death, most prefer living,  working and viewing their surrounding

              2. A Troubled Man profile image60
                A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Is that all you do?

                1. lizzieBoo profile image78
                  lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Why would I? I'm not suggesting surrendering Christian culture for a scientific theory.

                  1. A Troubled Man profile image60
                    A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    lol

                    That's funny on so many levels.

    3. calpol25 profile image76
      calpol25posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Where are the lost books of Jesus?
      What I dont get about the story of Jesus is how one minute he is a baby born in a stable and the next he is an adult? What I would like to know is what his teenage years were like? Who his first crush was? His first girlfriend? His childhood?
      How he adapted to puberty?

    4. Sarah Bolluyt profile image60
      Sarah Bolluytposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Speaking about strictly who had the bigger impact on the course of history:  The coming of Jesus Christ affected the world before, during, and after His own lifetime; Darwin affected only persons during and after his own lifetime (albeit in an infinitely influential way).

  2. paradigmsearch profile image88
    paradigmsearchposted 5 years ago

    Christianity is all over the place. But so is Darwinism; the philosophy of Darwinism is even in some parts of our economic and political gestalt. Tough call actually. smile

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Out of the whole world, it is probably only a tiny percent that believes in creationism. Most people in the world respect science in which makes Darwin more well known. Although I find Jesus a beautiful person the writers gave too many wrong translation, my vote goes to Darwin

    2. lizzieBoo profile image78
      lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Darwinism isn't  a philosophy, it's a theory.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        ...and Jesus is not?

        1. lizzieBoo profile image78
          lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Can you live Darwinism?

          1. Castlepaloma profile image22
            Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Darwinism is Natures philosophy with some natural book of Taoism is good enough for me.

            1. lizzieBoo profile image78
              lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              Christianity is a lifestyle, Darwinism is not. Neither are the theories of magnetism or gravity. I believe in evolution and God. Many people do.

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                Cranfordjsposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                Darwinism is reality, Christianity is not.

                1. lizzieBoo profile image78
                  lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Darwinism is really a theory, yes.
                  The fact that there are Christians would tell us that Christianity is reality too.

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                    Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    How in the world can you believe in Evolution and Christianity at the same time. Are you not afraid of not obeying God? How can you believe  Dinosaurs were living millions of years ago and at the same time believe everything began 6000 years ago?

    3. WD Curry 111 profile image59
      WD Curry 111posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I have to fall in line behind Paradimsearch. But at the same time . . . sorry. I don't care what other people think. God done it . . . . when we weren't looking.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Understanding of Nature is our true salvation, mankind will clean up their abuse and tragedy by the collective consciousness like always.

  3. Mark Pitts profile image60
    Mark Pittsposted 5 years ago

    Jesus had the greatest impact. There are Christians, and Christianity has changed the world, good or bad. Darwin was a scientist, and evolution was first a theory, and has been borne out by observation and use of scientific methods to establish. I am confused as to how the question became a comparison of creation "science" and evolution. That wasn't the original question. As humankind advances and learns more, we are sometimes able to see the mechanics of how God performed His miracles. But they are still miracles.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Then look at it, this way
      Living in the USA 48% of Americans believe in evolution and about 74% of those with post-graduate degrees believe in evolution and they say they are more spiritual than Religious. USA is one of the lowest rated Countries believing in Evolution next to Turkey in the world.

      Most of the world population is not even aware of Jesus, I know from touring five continents. About 75% to 80% of people in this world believe in Evolution. One time John Lennon mentioned the Beatles were more popular than Jesus , America had Beatles record burning bomb fires in many USA Cites

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        One vote for Jesus
        One vote for Darwin

        Best out of five

      2. Eaglekiwi profile image72
        Eaglekiwiposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        So John said ,but in reality the Bible out sold more Beatles albums.

        ..And I am a Beatles fan wink dont take me the wrong way. They just cant save me. wink

        Jesus hands down smile

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          All their love songs changed me, most likely all the black market song sold behind the iron curtain or which often was called the eastern block wall changed and saved them too, more than any thing else I can think of in the cold war.

      3. sabrebIade profile image85
        sabrebIadeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        "Most of the world population is not even aware of Jesus"
        Really?
        2.1 billion Christians worldwide.
        1.4 billion Muslims that even though they dont regard Jesus as The Savior, regard him as a Messenger of God and the Masih (Messiah) who was sent to guide the Children of Israel.
        7 million Baha'i that consider Jesus, Muhammad, the Buddha, Krishna, and Zoroaster to be Manifestations of God.
        Some Buddhist (385 million) regard Jesus as a bodhisattva.

        But most people in the world are not aware of Jesus?

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I know from personal and business experience from touring 6 continents that most are not aware of Jesus
          World population  is close to 7 billion

  4. Mark Pitts profile image60
    Mark Pittsposted 5 years ago

    When John Lennon said that he was referring to the sales of Beatles albums as compared to the sales of Bibles, he was not at that time making any statement on religion. I, too have been in many countries, and 5 continents. So? The original question was still a comparison of Darwin's impact to the same for Jesus. That a large part of the US is under, or uneducated is true. But I have been in the cities and wilderness of Turkey, and their beliefs as a whole aren't as cosmopolitan as you are presenting. Only 74% of post-grads believe in evolution? THAT is mind-blowing. Some people choose to be foolish, I guess

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Are student foolish if they prefer evolution,? it just might be, that these kids today, are smarter than me, when I was their age

      Also, oppose to biblical people life span only living up around their mid 20s age

  5. BobbiRant profile image60
    BobbiRantposted 5 years ago

    I think this involves a very personal reply.  Why?  Because it depends on a person's point of view (which is usually a strictly personal choice) as to which one has a greater impact in their lives.  Darwin theories have not been around as long as the account of Christ's life has been.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      There are a few older religions before Christianity and Jesus,

      There are older Cultures and Tribes than Adam and Eve

      Darwin origin of species is about millions of years, Jesus bible is about 1000s of years and Darwin was more than double the followers  than Jesus which are living in the present.

      1. lone77star profile image91
        lone77starposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Older religions, yes.

        Older cultures than Adam and Eve, nope!

        There's a lot of symbolism in the Bible. It takes humility to get past it. I've only discovered a few gems, myself. But the real timeline in Genesis pegs Noah's Flood at 27,970 BC and Adam at 10,434,130 BC. No earlier Homo sapiens than that, I would think. Anthropologists will just have to dig harder and faster to find the bones that prove this date.

        But seriously, there are many mysteries we may never solve through scientific methods. The evidence may be completely gone -- destroyed by the ravages of time and nature.

        1. kerryg profile image88
          kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Biologically modern humans turn up in the fossil record around 200,000 years ago. Culturally modern humans are harder to pinpoint, since it depends partly on what you consider "culturally modern." The discovery of agriculture was about 10,000 years ago, which is a decent metaphor for Adam and Eve being kicked out of the Garden and forced into a life of permanent toil, but there are still successful hunter-gatherer societies in the world today, so you couldn't really say that agriculture defines "culturally modern" humans.

  6. lone77star profile image91
    lone77starposted 5 years ago

    @Castlepaloma, you're mixing apples and termites.

    If by "creationism," you're referring to the relatively new "theories" of the modern "Creation Science" movement, then Jesus had nothing to do with this. So, the impact of Jesus is not even an issue with this movement. It's a farce.

    If by "creationism," you're referring to God creating the universe, then you're wrong about the "tiny percent." With most of the major religious populations of Earth believing in God in some form, creation is a given. One third Christians, many millions of Hindus, hundreds of millions of Moslems. All of them are into the "creation" thing.

    Believing in creation does not mean a disbelief in evolution. I'm a Christian who knows the beauty of science and evolution. There are many Christians, even Jesuit monks who believe in evolution!

    So, your entire premise for this forum discussion is flawed.

    But to answer your overall question: Jesus or Darwin? I'd say Jesus, easily. Darwin was a good, hard-working scientist. He had a breakthrough, but so did lots of other great scientists. I'd say Newton, Galileo and Einstein created the biggest effects for science. Darwin might fit in the top 100.

    Jesus is all about the immortal spirit that has been trapped on this planet for many millennia. The Homo sapiens bodies don't matter. Sure, we think they're important while we're wearing them, but once they're gone, they don't mean squat. We just have to go get another one and start over again.

    The object of it all is to awaken the soul--the true, immortal self, within. That's the big mission behind humanity and civilization. Jesus is at the top of the list on that project. Darwin and most other thinkers were interesting, but minor distractions.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Hindu Religion is about 48,000 years older than Christianity , next Darwin will lead the evolution theory speeding pass Christianity because it involves nature, science and spiritualism.

      Darwin is the most famous scientist dead or alive

  7. LeanMan profile image81
    LeanManposted 5 years ago

    Ronald McDonald is better known than either of them all around the world - so I guess maybe he has a bigger impact!!

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      I did not ask what group has killed more people in the world. Obesity has killed more people than starvation in the world and what we eat and drink does related to most deaths in the world which illnesses are rated as our top 15 ways to die.

      McDonald and fast foods maybe a good study on what group has the greatest negative impact in the world

      1. lizzieBoo profile image78
        lizzieBooposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        "Obesity has killed more than starvation in the world"!!!!?
        No I know you're not serious.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          Consider most of the third world population is doubling or tripling the economic growth of America'

          Yes, way

          1. sabrebIade profile image85
            sabrebIadeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            The number of the starving people in the world has been more or less continually decreasing for at least several centuries.
            The escape from hunger and premature death, 1700-2100: Europe, America, and the Third World

            The World Health Organization (WHO) predicts that overweight and obesity may soon replace under nutrition and infectious diseases as the most significant cause of poor health.
            Harrison's principles of internal medicine

          2. lizzieBoo profile image78
            lizzieBooposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            So what you mean is, NOW the biggest killer is obesity? As oppose to "obesity has in general killed more people than starvation", which can't be right.

            1. Castlepaloma profile image22
              Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Not only that, our children will be

              living shorter life expectancy than my generation for the first time in human history

              The greatest down side of all.

              1. lizzieBoo profile image78
                lizzieBooposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                It will be survival of the fittest. Obese people will die out and fit people will live on. Evolution will take care of us....you win.

  8. kerryg profile image88
    kerrygposted 5 years ago

    You could say that evolution had the bigger impact because we wouldn't exist without it, but Darwin himself was neither the first nor the last to come up with the theory of natural selection. He was simply the one who articulated it most successfully. If it hadn't been Darwin, it would have been Wallace, or someone else entirely. The truth will out.

    Therefore, I would say that between Jesus and Darwin, Jesus had the greater impact. He started a religion that, for better or worse, has directly affected the lives of hundreds of millions of people around the world for two millennia. Darwin was mostly lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time with the right attitude and the right skills.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Still concider our world population has more than tripled after Darwin's death.

      Look at present Darwin theory of 80% mixed followers vs Jesus theory  of 33% followers. Most people of today say they are spiritual rather than religious.

      Look at our future of the our museum and school at present who teach evolution where there is only one Big USA Creation Museum that teaches that everything began only 6000 year ago and the odd some other Mom and Pa operation.

      You think most of our future children will buy into the Creation theory. Sorry each generation of kids get smarter. If you have not questioned the Creation is too crazy, you may be too far gone.

      Do you Kerryg still vote for Jesus over Darwin

      1. kerryg profile image88
        kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        I do. Unless you are an evolutionary biologist or you like to come argue with creationists online like me, the fact that you believe in evolution rarely affects your daily life, whereas if you're a Christian, you probably change your behavior in some way in response to your beliefs, and during some periods of history may have had your behavior forcibly changed for you.

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Nature and animal evolution dose affects everyone's daily life, we just don't notice it because it's silent like love

          I more surrounded by nature in green Eco house with every natural updated healthy system. Work as an artist for 36 years in natural materials worldwide,  If people like the supernatural Creationism and their fight club , it is really limited. Most people prefer to glue the world together with nature which we are all in it, nature surround us, there is no escaping nature.. The natural earth is billions of years old , religion is only 1000's , religion will come and go on the earth , the earth it’s self will not

          it simple, I live a natural lifestyle, for it's only natural to be happy,

  9. knolyourself profile image61
    knolyourselfposted 5 years ago

    Prob progressive to evolve to higher states of being
    in contradiction to a seemingly non-evolutionary universe. Everything that exists already exists.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      like that

  10. A Troubled Man profile image60
    A Troubled Manposted 5 years ago

    The biggest impact, Jesus or Darwin?

    Jesus had about 2000 years to affect our world. Darwin had 150 years.

    Is that a fair comparison or should be really delve into what the religion of Christianity and the concept of evolution have given the world?

    If it's a popularity contest, you'll probably find more stuff about Einstein than Jesus and Darwin put together.

    1. lizzieBoo profile image78
      lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Reeeeeally?

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Darwin beats Einstein for Scientific Fame

        Darwin is the most famous scientist both living or dead and has been surging over the past few decades

        Darwin to evolution mean more than Jesus to Religion

        1. lizzieBoo profile image78
          lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          For you maybe.

          1. Castlepaloma profile image22
            Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Google it, see how many times Darwin comes up, I love both of their works.

            1. lizzieBoo profile image78
              lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

              There are over 2 billion Christians in the world, for whom at least two thirds  think the theory of evolution is not a problem. You surely don't measure culture by how many times it appears on the internet? Half the world don't have the internet.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                If it's on the internet , it's in books too

                Literalist creationists believe that evolution can not account on how the world began only 6000 years ago concerning living organisms, and the idea of it.... In particular, Christians should not make absurd dogmatic interpretations of evolution.
                It's like Christian want to be all and end and own everything without the responsible work done and want to claim my cake and eat to too

                1. lizzieBoo profile image78
                  lizzieBooposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                  Literalist creationists are in the minority and hail from the New World. I don't have an affiliation with that kind of Bible-based logic. My connection is with the Renaissance and the surge of creative thoughts and ideas it gave birth to. I think it's been down hill since then.
                  If you ask me, we've devolved if anything.

                  Again I'll say, Christians came up with the ideas you think are so magical.

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                    Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

                    I thought the best times were the1950s and 60s when my parent had a house, no debts, a saving account and lots of holidays. You did not live in the Renaissance age , how do you know it was like the 1% cooperation control like today.


                    Nothing is better than living for today and being a co creator with God

  11. phillippeengel profile image70
    phillippeengelposted 5 years ago

    Who has the bigger impact on the world, Jesus or Darwin?

    No one has an impact.

    It all depends on your perception and interpretation. Even if a person has a deep insight into each of the group's doctrine and is able to analyze their advantages and disadvantages, what one thinks about Christianity and Darwinism differs from another.

    That means, there is no definite answer on who has the biggest impact.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      i was thinking in number of people up to date changing their way of thinking

  12. brimancandy profile image82
    brimancandyposted 5 years ago

    I would think that early media would have an impact with both. Both Jesus and Darwin would be nowhere without some way to spread their word. So to say that one person has more of an impact on the world than another isn't looking at every factor. There are many things, and people involved.

    Also there are many variations and stories about what happened during the time of Jesus. And, we don't know if any of them are true. In fact the Muslim faith, and others do not see Jesus as any more than a deciple. Which is why they do not believe in christianity.

    There are also rumors that Darwin's theories are stolen from other historians and professors, and his thoughts are not his alone. There are also many examples of other theories that have been proven wrong. Like the thought that the earth was flat, and sailing to the edge of the world would cause you to fall off and vanish into thin air.

    The most idiotic is the man who discovered gravity. So, and apple falls on his head, and suddenly he is a genius? If he were in modern times, he would probably be selling a book...How I discovered gravity. Only people would be smart enough to say...you didn't discover gravity it was always there, you were just the most known person to slap a name on it, and call it your own.

    1. OutWest profile image60
      OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Are you for real.  Maybe a physics course would be a good investment for you.  An apple and Newton is what you believe.  Honestly I can't stop laughing.  I'm sure calculus is so far over your head...higher above it than this apple you speak of. lol lol lol

      1. brimancandy profile image82
        brimancandyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        Actually, outwest, I have watched several documentaries, and was merely stating that all of these famous people that have gone down in history as the greatest minds on the planet had help. And, not everything you hear about them is 100 percent accurate, and has been a subject of debate.

        I don't need to know physics to know the whole newton and the apple story. My point was that gravity has always been around, just because Newton was smart enough to make a name for himself with his theories doesn't mean that he is the only one who is right, or the only one who ever tried. The same can be said for Darwin. Jesus, on the other hand, is a debate that has been going on forever, even when he was alive.

        And, by the way? What does physics have to do with Jesus?

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Children and adults alike are absolutely fascinated by these mysterious Dinosaurs & Prehistoric Animals.

          Jesus in church was a place to snore and sleep for me as a kid

          1. brimancandy profile image82
            brimancandyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Both Darwin and Jesus bore the crap out of me. But, I find Dinosaurs and ancient civilizations fascinating.

            1. Castlepaloma profile image22
              Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              Anything that keeps repenting the same fiction or repent words like Jesus ,Jesus Jesus bore the crap out of me

        2. OutWest profile image60
          OutWestposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          If you really think that all Newton did was name gravity you are in need of some facts.  He did not just name it. He mathematically calculated it.  So well in fact that it was his math that was used to get to the moon.  He also was among two who invented calculus.  So whether we are talking about Jesus or not I'm making a comment about what you said, which left me in stitches I might add.  So thanks for the entertainment. lol

          1. brimancandy profile image82
            brimancandyposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Only people who are interested in the calculations you mentioned, and Calculus would care about that. So, im guessing when he did this calcuation he watched the apple drop, timed its decent to the ground, calculated in wind resistance, weight, and porportion...and came up with what? Then watched a bigger apple drop and had to calculate again?

            They used to ask those questions in math class, and my answer was always who cares!!! probably one of the reasons the US was so reluctant to use the metric system. All the re-calculation was just time consuming!!

            1. Eaglekiwi profile image72
              Eaglekiwiposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              They said that once about changing to decimal currency lol

              Actually the metric system was created by an American ,but oddly they didnt embrace it. Many other countries have.

            2. OutWest profile image60
              OutWestposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              The apple thing...it's just a story.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                That apple sin changed everything, not like someone murdered someone

                1. OutWest profile image60
                  OutWestposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  Was that to do with Newton too?

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                    Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    your right, not much

  13. DysturbedGM profile image61
    DysturbedGMposted 5 years ago

    Creationism is a broken theory. How did humans come to be in the world. God designed and made them. Prove it.

    No mater what you say after that there is nothing scientific about it.

  14. IJR112 profile image61
    IJR112posted 5 years ago

    Jesus and Christianity has been the cause of major world events that have changed our world forever.  Darwin has not had that impact, although his impact is very big.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If you come from the US ,more likely you may think it is the world.

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        Thanks folk for all your input

        I'm happy on how this hub turned out

        JesusVS.Darwin

        Did not get enough votes to see who won, with these two great men, we are all winners for having them both to love us, love life and the World.

  15. brotheryochanan profile image59
    brotheryochananposted 4 years ago

    Since darwin fails in three areas:
    common ancestry
    irreducible complexity
    tree of life

    and jesus fails in no areas:

    but that's not the question, who has the bigger impact.

    Tough to say, Many people doubt both. Having evolution in the text books is a big numbers gatherer. Over all time Jesus has to win out.

    But thats not the question, impact is the operative word.

    Evolution does not change lives nor inspire changed lives. It is like a dead thing, producing no fruit.
    Jesus changes lives and produces change in others lives.

    Jesus has the biggest impact... well... the best impact!!

    jesus has the bigger impact on the world

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I see too much Magic and mystery complexity which lack reason
      The magic tree of knowledge, for example.
      Everyone on earth has the Y cell DNA in their blood from 200,000 years out of Africa and most people think this is true

      1. brotheryochanan profile image59
        brotheryochananposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        yes all continents were joined together at one time, so i do not consider this as evidence against.
        And i feel inclined to say, that after the dispersion of the garden inhabitants those who journeyed outside the area of the Flood, survived the flood and would be 'older' than Noahs clan, although Noahs clan stemmed from Adam as well.

        What if the magic tree of knowledge were not a tree at all - is that a little less magic for you?

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          it all seem magic at first until we understand it well enough

          1. Castlepaloma profile image22
            Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            Many members are driven to Christianity for the fear of magic hell, Now you don't believe in hell, why not grow up and go all the way by not needed to live by the Bible?

            1. brotheryochanan profile image59
              brotheryochananposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              There is so much persuasive evidence for the bibles importance and it's truthfulness, that it would not be growing up to dismiss the bible. In fact, the bible was the major tool i used to learn that hell is not what the catholic doctrine says it is and i could not have discovered this without Gods foresight and diligent care to put a book about Him in front of me.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                Number of times "Hell" appears in the text in English Bible Translations
                Bible Translations"Authorized" King James Version *
                Old Testament     31
                New Testament  23
                Total                      54

                New King James Version
                                              19   
                                              13 
                                   total   32

                Before 1965: No Salvation outside the Catholic church!

                1. brotheryochanan profile image59
                  brotheryochananposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  and your point?

                  1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                    Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                    If you now claim there is no Hell in your Bible, when there is, are you in contradiction or lying to yourself OR is the Bible lying? I too, once joined the a church being deeply concern with the wonders if I am wrong with the -:going to hell feelings.:

                    Now, I know it's a grand HOAX

  16. pisean282311 profile image57
    pisean282311posted 4 years ago

    obviously darwin...jesus's miracle is myth ...5k years down the line jesus would go horus or mitra way....darwin would live...

    1. brotheryochanan profile image59
      brotheryochananposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      We could get totally off topic here but it would be nice to know what persuasive evidence you have to support your jesus's miracle is a myth. Perhaps a hub?

      1. pisean282311 profile image57
        pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

        evidence is human psychology...Jesus is neither first virgin born...so it is repetative story...jesus was not first to walk on water...so it too is repetative story...then comes rising from death story...now this too is not unique it is repetative story....infact forget jesus , many where brought back from death by those perceived as god in other civilizations....so it is simple, if we take holistic view and unbiased view....why darwin would survive and jesus wont because jesus miracle is not first such story...it is deep inner carving of projecting some supernatural theme which is as old as humans itself...

        1. Castlepaloma profile image22
          Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

          I saw a lizard walk on water, maybe Jesus walked on ice

          A virgin birth, no way

          1. mischeviousme profile image61
            mischeviousmeposted 4 years ago in reply to this

            The sad part is that some people see that as fact and not metaphor.

            1. OutWest profile image60
              OutWestposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              So very true.  And then they take it a step further to conclude the existance or non-existance of God.

              1. Castlepaloma profile image22
                Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                prove it

                lol

                1. OutWest profile image60
                  OutWestposted 4 years ago in reply to this

                  lol

          2. pisean282311 profile image57
            pisean282311posted 4 years ago in reply to this

            @castle point here is not jesus walking on water...it is writers who wrote that jesus walked on water ...they were not first writers which shows how humans being taught in those times....

            1. Castlepaloma profile image22
              Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

              I don't even get the updated metaphor.

  17. Druid Dude profile image61
    Druid Dudeposted 4 years ago

    Neither one can match the impact made by a skydiver whose chute failed to open. That's something my jump instructor in the army told me and the other guys while we were packing our own chutes!

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      If your chute did not open and you stomach packed did not open also.

      Do you think praying for Jesus would help that much?

      1. OutWest profile image60
        OutWestposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        People have been know to survive such jumps.

  18. Druid Dude profile image61
    Druid Dudeposted 4 years ago

    I know someone who could make everyone in the room see him levitate. He could also make you believe that you had been levitated. It's called hypnosis. On a crowd, it's called mass hypnosis.

  19. pharuk temmy t profile image59
    pharuk temmy tposted 4 years ago

    Jesus is alive but darwin is dead... If you call on Jesus he will surely answer you provided you know when and how to talk to him but if you call darwin from morning till night nothing shows up either you call the name louldly or not because the darwin is dead and dead in body has no impact on earth.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Welcome to the forum pharuk

      Jesus and Darwin are both great men and the World-historical individual is devoted to one Aim, that particular aims involve those large issues of the World-Spirit. All religions, arts and sciences are branches of the same tree and  the highest point in the development of a people is of their ideas. Body of work balanced with their ethic yet o law can be valid without the approval of all.  World-Spirit uses for realizing its Idea involves the activity of personal existences in whom Reason is present; the unknown is the spirit world historically. In Darwin greatest is in his body of work in natures law.

    2. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      Of course, why didn't I think of that before, it makes perfect sense why tens of thousands of children ask Jesus for food but starve to death instead. They didn't know how or when to ask Him.

      Could you ask Jesus next time you talk with him to open up his calendar so we can see it and make appointments accordingly?

  20. pharuk temmy t profile image59
    pharuk temmy tposted 4 years ago

    Oh well its not about appointment neither is it about sending anyone to Jesus.The right person you can send to Jesus is YOU.All you have to do is believe.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      What happen when you believe in God and bread and bombs come down upon you.

      Then you you ask ,? why dose this God hate my God because I live in a different country.???

  21. Diane Inside profile image86
    Diane Insideposted 4 years ago

    well time is literally measured by the birth of Jesus.

    I doubt Darwin has done anything to that measure.

    1. Castlepaloma profile image22
      Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      I live in Mayan country much of the time and the Mayan calendar is much more accurate than our calendar

      Not good enough science....... again

    2. A Troubled Man profile image60
      A Troubled Manposted 4 years ago in reply to this

      lol lol

      1. Castlepaloma profile image22
        Castlepalomaposted 4 years ago in reply to this

        First time I heard that one

 
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