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Why Shouldn't God do Evolution?

  1. Disappearinghead profile image87
    Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago

    Geneticists have seen their synthetic DNA evolve, but this would not have been possible without external input, that is, human intervention. So why do some consider it unreasonable (atheists and theists for different reasons) for God to have done the same?

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/04/20 … by_itself/

    For me the key phrase in this article is 'directed evolution' which describes the research being carried out.

  2. girlgonestrong profile image61
    girlgonestrongposted 5 years ago

    The reason why evolution is wrong is because it implies that God is a liar...which he is not.  God does not say (multiple time) that he did something in a certain way when he, in fact, did not.  That's lying and lies are the tools of the Enemy.  It is impossible for God to lie.

    To better understand, you should read this: http://www.warriortalk.com/showthread.p … ost1357033

    1. janesix profile image59
      janesixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      So god just created things in a manner that LOOKS like evolution? Why?

      1. girlgonestrong profile image61
        girlgonestrongposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        It doesn't "look" like evolution.  The only reason why it does is because the "experts" are so good at twisting what we can actually see and measure and then claim that they are proof of evolution.  DNA similarity is no more support for evolution then phenotype similarity is.  Both of them are just as well explained by the fact that when a "Designer" finds something that works, he applies it again and again in multiple places for use in similar ways...but that concept is scoffed at because, well, materialists have found that Ph.D.-backed scoffing does a better job at convincing people that the position of those they are deriding is foolish than anything else.

        The facts of the matter are that we do NOT see mutation producing new "genetic language" through freak chance for which natural selection can work on.  The examples of bacteria developing resistance to antibiotics as proof that beings evolve and adapt to adverse environmental elements is empty in that these adaptations are accomplished by a LOSS of genetic information (things missing in the genetic code resulting in a resistance to the drug) and not through ADDITION of new chapters of DNA blueprint data to the critters genome.

        Mutation is the only means in the evolutionary model by which new data could, theoretically, be added to the genome but many scientists (the more honest ones) now admit that because the rate of beneficial mutation is so low (pretty much Zero) and the number of beneficial adaptations for even so-called simple organisms to have evolved to their present state numbers in the millions, the amount of time needed for our world to have bumbled blindly through time would have to be in Thousands of Trillions of Years....and not the 3.5 Billion years that they tried to sell us all on a while ago.

        Furthermore, the entire thing doesn't "look" like evolution from an origin perspective.  There's a reason why such a large contingent of scientists believe that the pre-assembled amino-acid sequencees that they feel would somehow "jump start themselves" into life (an impossibility in and of itself which has never been observed and is an embarrassment to data-driven science that so many sign on to this muckity-muck) had to have come from an alien world.  The Alien Seed hypothesis exists because so much scientific evidence leads us to believe that there was NEVER a time where the geological conditions on earth would have been such that the first cell could create itself.  But do they turn to the logical conclusion of a SUPER-natural creator who has the power to make things the way he wants? 

        Of course not.  Instead they sign up for the idea that the conditions must have been BETTER on a  DIFFERENT world and that somehow this world fired debris across the cosmos in such a way that it collided with the earth.  We've all heard stories about how in war, when millions of rounds of ammunition are being fired between forces, it's nearly unheard of that those combing these historic battle fields find two rounds which have collided in mid-air.  The idea that debris from a "seed planet" was expelled and crossed the cosmos and then struck earth is like the idea of two riffles shooting NEEDLES at each other at ranges in excess of a mile and then these two needles colliding head-on. It's a statistical impossibility yet this is the type of thing that materialists are clinging to in order to keep the evolution-myth alive in the collective consciousness.

        1. janesix profile image59
          janesixposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Most antibody resistance in bacteria comes from horizontal gene transfer, sometimes an entire species genetic code is transfered.

          I have no idea what loss you are referring to.

        2. kerryg profile image87
          kerrygposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          Your information is pretty much as wrong as wrong can get. So wrong I scarcely know where to begin.

          I guess I'll start with two of your most incorrect points:

          1. There are many mechanisms by which organisms can "add" genetic material. (Horizontal gene transfer, as mentioned by janesix, being just one.)

          2. Mutations do not have to be beneficial or harmful in order to influence evolution. The majority of mutations are actually completely neutral at the time they occur.

        3. Jesus was a hippy profile image61
          Jesus was a hippyposted 5 years ago in reply to this

          First of all, statistical impossibility? You mean the odds are zero? I am pretty sure they are not and if they are not zero then it is not impossible.

          I take it you didn't hear about the meteor from mars that contained bacteria fossils?

          The popular creationist claim that mutations only reduce information in a genome ihas been debunked over and over. It simply is not true.

          And lastly., do you honestly think that 99% of the earths scientists are in a massive conspiracy to try and take you away from your religion?

          What a ridiculous and dumb thing to think.

          1. Castlepaloma profile image21
            Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

            Jesus was a hippy

            And lastly., do you honestly think that 99% of the earths scientists are in a massive conspiracy to try and take you away from your religion?

            Who posted that, if they did, they are one hell of a science bigot

    2. pisean282311 profile image57
      pisean282311posted 5 years ago in reply to this

      @girl god is liar or bible authors r wrong?...evolution is well accepted fact and with time it would be universally accepted because it is not bible or quran , it is based on physical proofs and not fairy tale...now god has nothing to do with bible or quran...both r human product..so what u can conclude is that bible authors where wrong...liar?...nope...they didnt knew what they wrote was lie...they like many even today believed in what they wrote...

    3. Castlepaloma profile image21
      Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      @girl god

      About 80% of the people believe or think evolution is real

      Will these liars go to hell?

    4. profile image60
      atheistchickposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Of course God didn't lie, he doesn't exist! If you don't even exist, then you cannot possibly lie! Of course there is the Bible but really? You'll believe that load of rubbish over real facts and figures?...wow...ignorant people

      1. Castlepaloma profile image21
        Castlepalomaposted 5 years ago in reply to this

        God never lies, only people lie.

        Now, what God are we talking about?

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    Emile Rposted 5 years ago

    It's pretty simple. Of course an atheist wouldn't consider God having a hand in anything. That's a fundamental rule of atheism.

    The theists who don't obviously can't fathom the thought that maybe they have the right to think for themselves. I believe denying reality is some test of faith.

    I'll be honest, it's difficult for me to wrap my head around the possibility of divinely guided evolution, but I definitely prefer that argument to listening to  a theist swear it just isn't possible because God said he didn't do it.

    1. Disappearinghead profile image87
      Disappearingheadposted 5 years ago in reply to this

      Agreed. I just can't get my head around the Young Earth Creationist who insists Genesis is a literal account even while Jews generally accept it is not. They start out with a conclusion and then try to fit observed 'facts' to it, which isn't science at all.

 
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