Ray, in my business life I am controlled by (ultimately) the Rothschild's banking cartel, who demand KYC at every turn I make, and will only allow me to function if I play by their rules, in the political frame I am controlled by laws made to suit the 1% and designed to keep the 99% in servitude, and in my personal life (and in all things I do) I am controlled by God, to whom I have submitted authority over my life, because following His plan for my life is better than fighting against it. I get to choose which coffe I can order at Starbucks and what we have for supper tonight, and even then my wife controls what I eat to a degree, as she wants me healthy!
I can do whatever I like, I choose to do what suits me best, and satisfying God and my wife are good ways to have a contented life, so it is in some respects a dedicated self interest that means I choose liberty over freedom.
I made the choice, it was my free will, and Christ gave us the 'heads up' when He said "Nevertheless, not my will but yours Lord"
I would suppose. Theists were convinced by someone that something exists, beyond the sensory experience. It is not their fault their gullible, the blame should fall on whoever started and propagated it.
Umm...let's not get ahead of ourselves. Theists were not convinced by someone else. It's that they never had gotten over the initial "shock and awe" of consciousness and reality. No one had to start it. It's a theory just like everything else. But that it, a theory. It cannot even considered a hypothesis because there's nothing to actually back it up.
Hey nonto, and what's a theory? A theory is a thought/idea in combination of other thoughts an ideas, leading to a conclusion.
If a person is unable to break the "shock and awe" of consciousness, then they are likely to believe anything from almost anyone. When you look at our bodies, the chemical make up, DNA, the Universe, the planet and then try to fathom how it could have come about? Aside from humankind already knows, then you would likely believe in a God or a Creator.
Einstein said he believe in a Higher Power and could prove a Higher power exists through physics, simply because of the complexity of physics. However, he denied that his Higher Power was described by any of the world's religions.
That's because, no matter the belief, it's a seemingly personal one. I've had christians say "from my experience". That's when I'd say "exactly, it was your experience and only your experience". I do realize that there are theories but, there are also physical observations. A physical observation requires no theory, only a good set of sensory organs.
That's what makes me an atheist; a lack of belief. I go by what I can readily observe and what seems like relevant information. The belief that it is right for me is apparent, though I have a lack of belief in what I cannot observe.
At one time there was 5 times more Native American than Europeans. The Columbus came over and began Christianity, Columbus brought natives slavery, gold rush and piracy and great wars. There after the greatest human genocide that has ever happened in Human history. I and America natives often still think Christian often speck with two faces and fork tongue.
They did not know what hell was about, until we showed them
Hey John, you seem to be a bit confused. If the destination is destined, then no choice you make will change it. You would still arrive at your destination whether or not of the choices you make throughout your life. So, choice doesn't play a factor in your statement.
I understand what you're saying John. I really do, but "destiny" does have it's definition. And choices are included already and change nothing about the end result.
In order for destiny to be something that is real, then choice would not be an option. Because, technically, you will be compelled from inside to take a specific path. You won't fight the feeling/compulsion.
We are born, we sin, by sinning we become destined to death and separation from God.
You will see that destined has two options:
des·tined/ˈdestind/ Adjective: 1. (of a person's future) Developing as though according to a plan. 2. Certain to meet (a particular fate).
Number one "Developing as though according to a plan." is what I refer to, by sinning we are 'developing as though according to a plan' that our enemy has contrived for us.
When we exercise our free will and place ourselves under the authority of Christ, we change that destined plan of the enemy for the destiny that God affords us when we place ourselves under the authority of Christ.
Yes, Cags. That says it all. Some priests lie. Tsk, tsk, tsk!
And Christianity is a rescue mission.
If you're on a sinking ship, you can decide: Do I go for the rescue or go down with the ship?
Some people are so convinced that the ship is safe and they find its familiarity and comforts so appealing that they cannot let go of it. But when the ship goes down, it's their decision to stay.
Does it matter if someone goes down with the ship and didn't know it was sinking? Would they be just as dead either way? See? Your priest was lying. The Eskimo would've died whether he was told or not.
Going down with the ship... that's Hell.
God created "man" in His own image and likeness. And God is not Homo sapiens.
Yes, Priests lie. It's the only way to perpetuate the hoax of a G/god. How else do you think it would be accomplished? It certainly isn't made of truth. Yeah I know. It rescues wealth and power from the simpletons who would give it to them. If you're on a sinking ship, the ship is going down regardless of what you do. If you sacrifice your life to save that of someone else so they don't go down with the ship but you do. Then and only then, do you truly understand love. Until then, you must learn to love yourself until you do. That depends. Only someone already dead would never know the ship was sinking. Otherwise, not possible. Consciousness would ensure a person would know. Yes, dead either way. You know you're not helping yourself here, right? Anything but life is hell. So get real. Yeah, I've heard the tale. It's not believable by and rhyme or reason.
Me. My ISP is paid through July 4th. I'm totally out of money. The park manager has given me food through a food bank, so I wont starve. But my internet access ends on July 4th. July 4th is a holiday, so I'm taking my modem to the cable company on July 3rd. And that is that.
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