Does not necessarily mean your beliefs matter to them? It is more than likely it conflicts with their own beliefs. So it is their own beliefs that matter and gives rise to points of interests that might be worth debating or not.
It depends on what actions you do to support said belief and whether or not that believe is irrational or rational, which will be the underlying cause for you to form the belief to start off.
When you put actions to said belief is when it might become dangerous for other people and for yourself.
If you belief is too irrational, then you could go to the extreme and claim LOVE and PEACE are your goal, but when the belief is reviewed/evaluated and found to be not about LOVE or PEACE then it must be dealt with.
And if you're unable to recognize your actions are not made of Love and Peace, and continue acting, then it's even a bigger problem.
Uninvited writer gave you one example. I'll give you one extreme one to make my point. If you believe that the prime minister is conspiring against you and then in defence you might try to kill the prime minister! (This had Actually happened - the McNaughten's case)
This is what I believe is fundamentally wrong with Christianity for the last 1600-ish years. It simply isn't logical that ones eternal future depends upon what one believes. 10,000 Church denominations is the result of this thinking and they cannot all be right.
Belief is entirely dependant upon one's subjective view of what is presented to them and the credibility of the argument and person presenting the "you must believe" argument. God simply cannot condemn a person because an ignorant bigoted Christian failed to provide a sufficiently brilliant argument that confounds the objective reasoning held by the unbeliever.
Then we have the get of of jail free card that the unbeliever can present to God if he was born prior to 2000 years ago, born into some obscure indigenous tribe somewhere, was mentally incapable of grasping the Christian doctrines,or was born into the Islamic world where he was never exposed to Christianity.
The only rational basis for judgement is against the actions one has done in life.
Besides which, Jesus has paid the sacrifice and being the lamb that takes away the sin of the world, he did it, "It is finished", nothing else for him or us to do. He saved all of humanity, not just those who think they are superior because they said a sinner's prayer once.
Yes, it is finished, but what you do with what He did is of paramount importance. Many of His parables deal quite decisively with people who didn't make Him lord of their lives, and here's a hint: they don't get to Heaven after they die.
Hey Chris, just to let you know....you'll be waiting a long time for any response from Randy, considering he just published a hub about leaving the forums, due to the present 3 month ban he is serving. So, you responding to his post is completely meaningless because he is unable to respond, and only read. If you prefer to continue this discussion I'm sure Randy can be reached via his profile page.
It actually doesn't matter. However to the degree that your belief threatens the belief of another (maybe it makes more sense), to that degree someone will have a vested interest in changing your mind about what you believe...
It shouldn't matter in America what you believe. Just like everyone else who has a right to believe as they choose so do you. Speculation, conjecture of what your faith might be or do has no place in your right/Freedom to believe as you choose. People in America worship witches, devil worshipers and whatever so how is it that these people can worship the way they do but we have to be concerned with how you worship?
The law gives you the right to worship as you please which means you are not bound by the stereotypes of others.
Eaglekiwi and Univited Writer, the two of you need to stop being friendly to one another. According to every rule ever laid down in the history of mankind, fraternization is NEVER allowed between Christians and Atheists.
Hello to you both, btw. EK, haven't seen you around in quite a while. All is well, I hope?
I agree that when it comes to acting on our beliefs, this is where they truly matter as these actions affect others. But could it be said that by an individual holding certain beliefs, these indirectly affect how an individual behaves in the world - which in turn affects others? If this is the case, then it is not just acting on our beliefs which affects others and therefore matters.
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