The Bible and Greek Mythology

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Most Christians or those religions that follow the basic principles of the Bible believe in the stories told in the Bible. In fact, these stories are usually regarded not only as mere stories, but also as actual historical accounts of important people, events, and concepts of the Christian faith. However, stories of Greek and Roman mythology are typically regarded as nothing more than fictional, fantasy stories. The idea that Ancient Greeks viewed these stories to be their religion seems insane to many people of Biblical Faith. This idea seems to cast a stigma of irrationality, almost ignorance, upon the Ancient Greeks. Although placing this stigma on a long-dead culture may seem to be unimportant to much of the contemporary world, it is important because this long-dead culture represents the history of a large portion of the world. The Ancient Greek empire was much more vast than modern-day Greece. Just as many Americans would find it offensive to have their history viewed as irrational and ignorant, it seems logical that Greeks might as well. Therefore, it is necessary to try and understand that both Ancient Greeks and Ancient Christians may have held similar beliefs about the world they were living in. The fact is that Greek myths contain unrealistic and unbelievable characters, events, and other elements, but upon comparison of Greek mythology with different Biblical accounts, it is apparent that some parallels between the two do exist, and that the Ancient Greeks view of the events of the early world are very similar to the views of both ancient and contemporary Christians. The following similarities are by no means a full accounting, but a mere summary of a vastly larger ideal between two religions.

The similarities begin with the creation stories, although these similarities are very minimal. In both the Christian creation story, Genesis, and in many accounts of the Ancient Greek creation story, the earth began with darkness and nothingness- a void, or Chaos, as known to the Greeks (Genesis 1:2; Tripp 159). This Chaos was the bearer meaning that he gave birth to of Ge; earth, Tartarus; underworld, Eros; love and sex, Erebus; darkness, and Nyx; night (Tripp 159). In the Christian creation story, God is the parallel to the Greek Chaos in that he invents the same things with the exception of an underworld; the creation of Adam and Eve and their later reproduction could be comparable to Eros as Chaos bore (Genesis 1:1-18). However, unlike Chaos, God is not a void of nothingness, but the beginning of all things. God also remains the ruler of the entire world in Biblical stories, while the Greek Chaos is displaced by several actual divine beings, the most important and permanent of those being Zeus (Tripp 606; Hesiod 2-3).

There is also a slight similarity in the separation or breakdown in mans relationships with God and Zeus, later chief god of the ancient Greeks. Although the offenses in each case were very different, both falls from grace were the products of trickery, deceit, and temptation. In both cases, the temptation was in the form of food (Genesis 3:1-6; Tyrell and Brown 15). Probably the most important similarity in the two falls, however, is the negative role that Woman plays in each. In the Bible, woman actually leads man to the fall from grace and as the punishment for that is exile from the Garden of Eden, while Greek mythology cites that Woman was the punishment to man from Zeus (Genesis 3:6-24, Hesiod 4). In the ancient Greek culture, Woman was designed to make man miserable (Hesiod 4). Although she plays different roles, Woman eventually bears the blame for all human suffering and sorrow in both stories (Tyrell and Brown 17).

In both the Ancient Greek and Christian accounts of the early world, there exist stories of great floods that destroyed most of humankind (Genesis 7; Tripp 608). In the Bible's version of the flood, God becomes frustrated with the wickedness of the world and decides to destroy the earth with a flood, although it saddens him to do so (Genesis 6:5-7). However, God found Noah to be a good and just man, and he asked Noah to build an ark that would float upon the waters (Genesis 6:9-14). On the ark, Noah was to take his wife, three sons, their wives, and two of every living creature (Genesis 6:18-22). In this way God could be sure that the world would be repopulated. In the Greek flood story, Zeus becomes very angry with men and decides to destroy them as revenge for their impieties (Tripp 608). His intention is to destroy all of mankind. However, Prometheus, who tells his son, Deucalion, to build an ark so Deucalion and his wife could escape Zeus' wrath, thwarts Zeus attempt. In this story, Prometheus assures that mortal life will go on. Although the stories are different in some aspects, the parallels show that both the Ancient Greeks and followers of the Christian faith seem to agree that a great flood was a significant event in the early years of the world. As well, they both believe that someone survived this flood by building an ark and living there until the flood subsided. These people survived in order to continue human life.

War was also a common characteristic of both the Ancient Greek world and of the Biblical world. For example, the Trojan War is a major event in Greek history, and is recorded most famously in Homer's Iliad. The gods always seemed to play important roles in this war, especially Zeus, Ares the god of war, and the other Olympians the gods and goddesses living on Mount Olympus (Homer 404-405). Wars between Greek city-states were also common occurrences, with gods and goddesses almost always involved in them in some way. Similarly, the Bible accounts many stories of wars between different countries and religious groups. One of the most famous examples is the war between the Philistines and the Israelites (Samuel, 1:17). In this war, God interfered and sent the small shepherd boy David to save the Israelites (Samuel, 1:17). David does so by defeating the giant Goliath, a feat he would not have been able to accomplish without God's help (Samuel 17:46-52). These examples show the cross-cultural belief that war was an important event in the ancient world, and the gods God played significant roles in these wars.

Prophecies of the overthrowing of rulers were frequent events in both Greek mythology and in Biblical stories. In both cultures these prophecies usually lead to the attempted suppression, usually murder in Bible stories, of the group that the over thrower will supposedly come from. This suppression rarely worked. For instance, the Greek god Cronus was told that one of his children would conquer and overthrow him (Tripp, 177). In a desperate attempt to prevent this, Cronus swallowed each of his children as they were born (Tripp, 177). However, through deceit and trickery, Cronus' wife Rhea manages to bear and hide the youngest child, who grows and conquers his father (Tripp, 177). This child is Zeus. He frees his brothers and sisters and then seizes his father's power, becoming chief of gods (Tripp 177, 705). The most important example in the Bible of this same type of prophecy is directed at Herod, who was King at the time that Jesus was born (Matthew 2). When three wise men tell Herod that the King of Jews was to be born that night, Herod demands that the three find where the baby was to be born and report back to him (Matthew 2:1-9). When the wise men fail to do so, he orders that all newborn boys in Bethlehem be killed (Matthew 2:16). However, Jesus escaped this fate because God tells Joseph, Jesus' earthly father, to take the baby and its mother to Egypt until the time that Herod dies (Matthew 2:13). Both the Christians and Ancient Greeks found these prophecies to be important parts of their histories.

These are only the big similarities. There are many smaller ones. The previous examples show that Christian and Ancient Greek histories of the origins and events of the ancient world are not as different as many people may think. Both have floods, wars, and prophecies. Both cultures believe in the nothingness that existed before everything else. Most importantly, both cultures have their own beliefs, the most significant of these being their gods or God.

The similarities are so parallel one must wonder as to the actual origin of these stories. They had to come from somewhere. If the Bible holds so many similarities to Greek and Roman mythology, it causes one to question the actual relevance of the Bible. Christians believed and still believe to this day that those who worship other gods are heretical and pagan. Although Christians refuse to accept that these stories are not historical accounts written by God through man, one cannot discount the likeness of both the stories of the Greek Gods and that of the Bible. Christians may have to see that their beliefs may be more similar to Ancient Greek beliefs than what was previously thought. A historian cannot look past the facts, all of which are written in a book cherished by so many. The historian can prove that the fall of Rome was credited partly to the rise of Christianity, and the Christianity that we know today had to start from somewhere. One may even go so far as to say the stories in the bible are stories of Greek mythology changed to suit the belief system of new religion; Christianity.

Authors Note: This by no means defends or discredits any belief. It is merely an observation of history, be it myth or truth. All beliefs are sacred and are to be respected. Please be respectful of each other when discussing topics such as these. Your words are your power. We all have a right to what we believe.

Works Cited

Hesiod. Selections from Hesiod's Theogony. Trans. John Svarlien. 17 Dec. 1999. 11 Nov. 2005. <http:/classics.mit.edu/Browse/browse-Hesiod.html>.

Holy Bible: The Old and New Testaments. King James Version. Nashville: Broadman Press, 1973.

Homer. Iliad: Book Twenty. Classics 135-001: Greek and Roman Mythology, Fall

1998. Ed. James A. Francis. Incentives Creativity, 1998. 62-68.

Tripp, Edward. The Meridian Handbook of Classical Mythology. New York: Penguin

Group, 1974.

Tyrell, William Blake and Frieda S. Brown. Hesiod's Myth of the Birth of the

Cosmos. Foundations of the Liberal Arts: Science, Nature, Culture, Spring

1999. Acton: Tapestry Press LTD., 1999. 8-20.

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coolbreeze 8 years ago from Hawaii

WOW Interesting reading


ecks chip 8 years ago

it was really interesting but i wonder what do make out of it?


Lortney 8 years ago

Makes you question Christianities relevance!


Pancho 8 years ago

Very nice... last night I was thinking about the similarities 'tween the bible and greek mythology (I dunno why) and today googled to see if anyone wrote anything about it...Your page came up... Nice work.


Jonny 8 years ago

or its possible that these events did happen and the christians came up with their interpretation, and the greeks had their own.


dropintheocean 8 years ago

You may want to look also on Iapetos, Cronos' brother and compare him to the biblical son of Noah, Japheth!!!!

Iapetos is the one, according to greek myhtology, that started the Greek nation, along with other few!!!


Mac 8 years ago

If one examines the beginnings of Greek Mythology closely, one will find very distinct similarities between Greek Mythology and the book of Genesis. For example, when the first women was created, according to Greeks, her actions lead to the unleashing of many evils upon mankind. These evils had been contained in a box that she had opened even though she was warned to never open it. This is remarkably similar to the account in Genesis. Even more astounding is the paralllel found in the first prophecy of the messiah. According to Greek Mythology after all the eveil within the box had been releashed, hope for mankind came out of the box. The very first prophecy of the messiah comes directly after God describese the hardships that mankind will now face as a result of eating form the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. This is very strong evidence that both of the Greeks and the Jews had common ancestors.


crazy guy 7 years ago

lol, this is retarded. just kidding! very interesting, glad i read it


SPARTAN 122 7 years ago

WHEN STUDING GREEK MYTHOLOGY AND THE BIBLE. IT IS AMAZING TO FIND

THAT THE IDEA OF GOD AND HUMANNITY ARE COMMUNICATING WITH EACH OTHER.


Argol228 7 years ago

I was thinking about this not to long ago, It started when i read the Epic of Gilgamesh and the story of the great flood got me thinking. I occurred to me that there are similarities in Greek Mythology. the first part i noticed was that of Zeus and hades compared with God and Satan. Hades was forced to the underworld due to litrally drawing the shortest straw, where as Satan was banished for rebellion. Both however seek to claim the souls of men.


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Onusonus 7 years ago from washington

I have heard that there are several stories in different cultures concerning a flood that are much like the account of Noah, such as the epic of Gilgamesh.


Meg's History 7 years ago

A discussion on this is just what I've been looking for!!! I'm writing an article proving that the Puritans of 1600's who came to the New World are descended from the Jews, and that the Greek and Roman gods are in part patterned after people in the Bible's Old Testament! The evidence is overwhelming! Many small details line up and I'm also coming to find that it is indeed possible to find the direct link from Noah down to the present day! The God of Abraham has preserved the records and He knows where they are! God is revealing this in these days for because the prophecies of the Old Testament are approaching their total fulfillment. God has hidden His story and glory out in the open for all to see but few to understand until the time of the end. All will see His second coming and EVERY knee will bow to Him. He is the great God of Justice, but He is also the God of great mercy, kindness, love, compassion, and calling all who willlisten to His open and tender arms. The only people He seems harsh to are those who refuse to acknowledge Him as LORD!! He says,"come, you who are heavy with burdens, and I will give you rest"!!!

Yes, I am very interested in discussion!


xJuggalette4Lifex 7 years ago

Wow, this is truly amazing. I hope you don't mind, Im citing my sources for my report and Im using this. This is so fascinating. I knew there were similarities, such as the creation and that God specifically said in the bible not to put other gods before him, but this is astounding. Great job.


louisa 7 years ago

It makes so much sense, Ill be researching this for ages the topic is so interesting, great debating sessions coming my way


hellogoodbye 7 years ago

WOW interesting. this is great. lol


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keeley 7 years ago

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keeley 7 years ago

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Tomo 7 years ago

The Torah, (The First 5 books of the bible) were written many years prior to the rise of Greek Mythology. The stories the writer on here is talking about is missing that fact, that even though Christianty started around 40 AD, he is talking about texts that were written before 1000BC.


mr fed up 7 years ago

the bible is predominantly fiction; much mythology, and religion comes from nature (mis)interpretation, especially the sky ..examples

Dec 25 .. the end of the winter solstice, when the sun starts to climb the sky for 6 months, until the summer solstice, jun 25 .. and was used by many Pagan cults for the birth of their Gods (like Dionysus), as was Easter for the Gods' death and resurrection .. this is well documented

Easter .. is the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox, ie it is really about the Sun, the Earth, and the Moon ..

from the autumn equinox (Libra), Sep 22, to the spring equinox (Aries), Mar 22, there is more darkness than daytime per day; from Mar 22 to Sep 22, it's the other way round, thus these are the 'good' 6 months; from Sep 22 to Mar 22, these are the bad 6 months (this is where 'good' and 'evil' come from - light and dark) .. so Easter (really the spring equinox) marks the boundary when daylight begins to dominate darkness, ie the 'weak sun' dies, and the 'strong sun' is born - hence, death and resurrection .. in other words, as with the Pagan cults (banished by Christianity), the 2 major dates, Dec 25, and Easter, are really all about the Sun (in the northern hemisphere)

Samson and Delilah .. a biblical tale .. about? .. yep, the Sun

in Hebrew, Samson means 'sunlike'; Delilah (Delij) means 'water bearer' .. in other words Samson is a personification of the Sun, and Delilah is the sign of Aquarius, ie mid-winter, Jan22-Feb22 .. and Samson's hair are the rays of the sun, which Delilah cuts off, being Samson's strength .. but Samson's hair really refers to the Sun's rays, which are weak in mid-winter as the Sun struggles through the Zodiacal sign of Aquarius .. Samson then dies in the temple of the Canaanite God, Dagon (in the Bible) .. amongst other things Dagaon is a fish-god .. in the Zodiac the last sign before the spring equinox is Pisces, ie the sign of the fish. and so Samson (the Sun) dies in the fish-god's (Pisces) temple, with his arms outstretched against 2 columns .. these columns represent the 2 fishes of Pisces .. ie Samson (as the weak sun) dies just prior to the spring equinox in Pisces .. and Samson is also lame .. which again refers to Pisces .. in ancient times a year would often start at the spring equinox, ie in Aries, and thus end in Pisces .. the signs of the Zodiac had a relationship with the parts of the body, ie from top to bottom, an through the year.. eg Head-Aries, Shoulders-Taurus, and so on, until Feet-Pisces, this is why Samson is lame, ie his feet let him down because he dies in Pisces .. it's ALL A SOLAR MYTH, and nothing to do with human beings on earth..

in Greek mythology, Hercules and his 12 labors.. where Hercules in now the Sun, and the labors represent what the Sun has to do each month (sign) of the year, as it maneouvers its way through the constellations, each imagined as an animal, a human being, an object etc .. eg in Aries (the Ram), Hercules goes with Jason, Castor and Pollux (the twins in Gemini), and others, to find the Golden Fleece, ie of a Ram .. in Leo, also, Hercules kills the Namastean lion - Leo the lion ... etc etc...

so now maybe you also know why there are 12 tribes of Israel, and why Jesus supposedly had 12 disciples .. and Marduk, god of Babylon, had 12 followers

Jonah and the whale is also a solar myth .. dawn and dusk, with the 3 days in the whale being the gap between the shortest day, Dec 22, and the end of the winter solstice, Dec25

(in the 4 gospels there are 4 different versions of how many women visited the tomb on the 3rd day, from 1 to a minimum of 5.. in Matthew 27 names only connect Jesus to David; in Luke it's 42, and the 2 sons of David from which they descend aren't even the same .. in these 2 same gospels, in one, Jesus is born before 4BC (ie before Herod the Great dies), in the other at the time of a Roman census in Galilee.. this is known to have happened in 6AD, ie there is a 10 year gap! ... just 3 of the many blatant inconsistencies the bible contains .. as with, is Jesus just for Jews or everyone? .. depending which bits you read you'll find stated both yes and no)


machineinc 7 years ago

Think about it... The only copy of the "bible" was held by The Roman catholic church. The Bible was only written as a control method. That is why there are similarities to Roman mythology.


David F. 7 years ago

I came upon this page because recently I too have begun to realize some similarities between the Bible and Greek/Roman mythologies and started searching online for comparasons of the two. I belive there is as much truth in the Bible as there is in Greek Mythology and there is as much mythology in the Bible as there is in Greek Mythology. I wonder.... Are Hercules and Samson the same man? Are Mt Zion and Mt Olympus the same mountain? There are also several similarities between the Bible and Sumerian Mythology (see http://home.comcast.net/~chris.s/sumer-faq.html). There are numerous accounts about a great flood from many different ancient cultures. I think many of these ancient accounts are re-tellings of the same events and people and if we are looking for the truth of the past, we should not focus on just one source.


Simon 7 years ago

Have any of you considered the fact that the Bible is much older than the Greek myths. This only prove that a few thousand years ago, someone was telling their children about what their parents told them, the real facts and history we see today in the bible. Eventually through the ages the stories got mangled up, added on to, and some forgotten. But by the time they started to write them down, the Greek "myths" was born.


skeptic 2 7 years ago

I must chime in. Many scholars believe that the old testament books were written well after the events described within them. That would mean that they do not predate the greek myths by "thousands of years". More likely, the greek myths influenced the hebrew myths and vice versa.


Steven 7 years ago

Greek mythology predates the bible. Just as the koran predates the bible.


Joshua 7 years ago

"One may even go so far as to say the stories in the bible are stories of Greek mythology changed to suit the belief system of new religion; Christianity."

That's ridiculous because the "Ancient World" accounts you speak of in the Christian tradition were derived from the Hebrew tradition which was entirely separate from Greece. As a Christian, I don't find it hard to believe that the Greeks had gods and demi-gods running around ruling things because it's pretty clear in Genesis that the "nephilim" (meaning "fallen ones") were still "walking the earth". So who were the "Nephilim"? Let's find the parallel... It's also a common theme in Christianity and Judaism that Lucifer (one of God's first and most powerful creations) rebelled against God which resulted in him being cast out of heaven along with 1/3 of the angels whom he led in the rebellion... Now that sounds an awful lot like the "nephilim" or "fallen ones" doesn't it? These "nephilim" were also present in Sumerian mythology which I'll come back to later...

Now, it also states in Genesis that these fallen angels "came in unto the daughters of men" and bore children that were noted as "mighty men of old" and "men or renown"...

Sumeria is recognized as one of the earliest civilizations on the planet. It is written that Abraham (father of the Jews), was chosen by God from the city of Ur (which was located in Ancient Sumeria). Now, the Sumerian creation story, the Greek creation story and the Judeo-Christian creation story are all very similar along with their mythologies... That would make sense if both the Hebrews and the Greeks ultimately came out of this civilization, right?

So, from a Judeo-Christian standpoint... It's really not that hard to believe that most of the Ancient "mythologies" regarding gods and demigods were, more or less, true.


person # 25 7 years ago

It's not very difficult to write something down that's not true, i.e. the bible.


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NewHorizons 7 years ago from Gozo, Malta, EU.

Very interesting reading.


God IS REAL!!! 7 years ago

Why do U people think that the bible is Fake. even though there are similar corelations why does the Christian bible speaks of the prophcies that are occuring today. this bible was written thousands of years ago? so one needs to think hard and long Jesus was a Real Man God is real to. There is much trickery going on in the world today. such as this now i dont doubt or say that greek mythology may not have an affect but i will say There is a True and Living God that heals people, bring lives back from the dead, doctors nor greek mythology can explain these occurances and how the bible has given prophcies so long ago that are occuring today. I pray that you all find the TRUTH Jesus is Real i know him o too well and the Living God is real!!! people please repent and go back to the foot of the CROSS!!!!


Doug 7 years ago

So basically, because there are similarities between other religions and Christianity, the Bible is counted as false? That's ridiculous. Of course they are going to predate Christianity, it wasn't made until the time of Christ! Which is hundreds of years before Christ was even born. Judaism however has been around as long as the other religions, which does speak of the same God etc. Dead sea scrolls anyone? Yea they predate Constantine's revision of the Bible and stay constant with the Bible's accounts. Other documents have been found that were written a long time before the Roman's revised the Bible that stay consistent with what it has to say (meaning what the documents say are what we see in the bibles we read today). This reinforces that scholars are correct when they say the bible is a very old document that has remained constant(relatively speaking due to translations between languages). The similarities, of course there will be similarities, it is common sense people! Man has to have been created somehow. So whats the non-scientific explanation? God or some other form of supernatural being right? Does that sound consistent with most religions of the time? They had to explain how the world works, how it was created and what happens to the human soul in some way shape or form. How else would they cope with their lives? Answer: religion and stories to give life meaning, purpose and a hope for a life beyond this one. It is the purpose of mythology throughout humanities entire existence so if that's the case why wouldn't there be similarities in what they said? Does that make one religion correct of all others? That is up to you. The consistencies between them show that there are certain things you could consider true no matter which religious orientation you are but where do the similarities end and originality begins? My belief is Christianity because of its differences from other religions and it's uniqueness in how God treats humanity with obviously good intentions as well as a few other details that set it apart from others (i'm sure most of you have researched these as well). So what is the conclusion? Rather than research all of this information and tip the scales towards discrediting Christianity because for some odd reason you just want to prove it wrong with "rational" and "logical" deductions of religion. How in any way, shape, or form is that open minded (what most scientists etc. claim to be about religion)when you are just trying to disprove it from the beginning rather than actually try it out? This was a good article and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Please think about what I have said. Thanks and God Bless you.


Chris 7 years ago

Please understand that the early Greeks were heavily influenced by nomadic Hebrew tribes. Accounts were passed along by mouth and later text giving birth to Greek mythology (Hebrew stories with a twist). The accounts literally predated Greek mythology by hundreds of years. It's like the example of sending one person out of room, starting a story to be passed around the room by mouth a person at a time, and eventually bringing that secluded person back into the room to hear the last account from the last person then presenting it; it is far different that it began, almost to the point of being absurd. Another key point which is overlooked is that much of Greek myth has been disproven (atlas supporting the earth among several others) where as biblical accounts, old and new testaments, are legitimately untouched regarding truth. Enjoyed the article; post contributors, please do your research. God bless you.


trojan 33 7 years ago

Trust me i found these things so confused Islam has Arabic myths back ground and also Christianity has Greek,Roman and jews back ground i don't find it hard for someone to choose not to blieve in this thing of so called the Only God let us pray in our way we like.....


You 7 years ago

You could also type english that makes sense...


cggc bballer #34 7 years ago

I don't know you,but i will be praying for you. I am a Christian, and i just want to tell you that the Bible is absolutely true. John 3:16 says,"For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten son, that whosoever beleiveth on Him should not perish,but have everlasting life". That simply means that God sent His son Jesus to come to Earth,and die a painful death on a cross, just so everyone that would accept and believe Him could go to heaven and live eternally. In case you haven't noticed, the word MYTH is is Greek mythology. Myth means not real or fake. All you have to do is repent, and ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins. I am only 14, and if you are scared to become a Christian just because you don't want to give something up, you should just let it go. I'm sure if you thought about it you would rather live forever in a painless place than to watch that tv show or say that word or whatever it is. Jesus loves everyone, and He will forgive you........no matter how bad you are.


GIG777 7 years ago

Uhm the oldest book in the Bible predates the Greek and Roman Empires both so I am a little confused as to how the validity of the bible is in question here. The Basis of facts and similarities in Christian religion and Greek Mythology is there wich should be reasearched more, but the conclusion that Greek Mythology was the prelude to christianity is purely a stretch by far in assumption becasue it holds no fundamental fact in history.


Tamz 7 years ago

Christianity was FORCED onto the Pagan people, and transformed most of their EXISTING holidays into Christian ones just to make it easier for the Pagans to convert! You people can't accept the writings of "mythology" but you'll preach the Chrstian writings because it sounds nice? I SAY BS TO THE BIBLE. If "God" said in the Bible there were aliens, I bet you'd all believe that too!


paganmamma 6 years ago

I don't understand why people think they have the right to force their religion down someone else's throat. The Helemic beliefs of the ancient Greeks are NOT dead, they are still alive and well. The catholic church proclaimed 20 years ago, that it is ok to bring back the pagan beliefs, and, I myself am Helemic. If it is ok for Christians to believe in the stories of the bible, what makes it wrong for others to believe in the ancient ways that are OLDER than Christianity? Christianity was named for CHRIST, Yahewh and Satan didn't come around until Judiasm, nor did evil. Yes, the ancient Greeks believed in Negativity, but they didn't believe in true evil. Hades himself wasn't evil, merely insane and was trying to get revenge on Cronos, his father, for drawing the lot for the underworld. I am proud to be pagan, and I refuse to hide it. How is it insane for me to believe in the ancient ways when there is just as much proof that my beliefs have happened, such as excavators have found Zeus' birthplace, and the Trojan War actually went down the way that it was told to us, as the birthplace and Tomb of Christ has been found, along with other things? It's time to pull some heads out of some arses, and learn that just because some believe in some things doesn't mean that other's beliefs aren't valid.


You  6 years ago

Ummm, you can believe anything you want man, but having "gods" that act like 3 year olds and cause pain, suffering, etc. just because they jealous of humanity. That does not sound like a very enticing religion to me. They found Zeus's birthplace with an altar on it, that just means that whoever made up his birthplace decided to worship there as well. Why aren't the Greek gods still up to mischief or making half immortal babies? Or heroes running around with god given armor? What about all the reasons for the weather change, the sun coming and leaving, the earths ability to float in space (Atlas)? All of this has been dis-proven scientifically. Not to mention the trojan war is so old that there isn't a way to accurately judge that. Feel free to believe what you want sir but in my own opinion and having studied Greek mythology, it is outdated and scientifically proven that it is fictional.


Man 6 years ago

It all was written by Man so who cares, they are all great stories of fiction unless you where there you don't know the truth.And man twist the stories to suit their own needs and with out all the stories there would be no morallatiy we as human will always find a way to justiy our actions.Look at all the wars that have being fought since the dawn of time and to day holy wars whatever they are fought to make someman rich it's always being about GREED and POWER. Bend the stories to suit your needs lol


You 6 years ago

Well of course people are going to care. What they believe determines which hell or heaven you could potentially go to. Whether or not man wrote the stories is irrelevant, someone has to record historical events, the instructions of whichever deity etc. It would be un-god like for the deity to write it all down themselves. While you are right that people perpetrate war for religious reasons, humans do not have the ability to correctly dictate morality without help of a supernatural being. We simply cannot be objective enough. You simply cannot say that religion is man made, otherwise, really humanity is pointless and does not have any purpose or even a reason to exist. Religion is necessary and that is shown throughout history. It also happens to be correct, if you'd simply look around. God is everywhere, just pay attention to the earth and look around. It is so very evident in almost everything we do.


aabar4 6 years ago

African parallels

Dear Verona Fair,

I am a 69 years old highly qualified biologist from the heart of Africa, from a region where the concept of a creator God has never existed. We, as humans every where on the globe, have tremendous numbers of long-lived wholly beliefs, semi-wholly traditions, and folk stories which are as fascinating as the Greek, Roman, Chinese, Indian, etc.. mythology. However, these are connected to human kings, sultans, witches (males and females), witch doctors, heroes, spirits of all kinds, and even animals and their spirits. There is no a "God" as such but people do believe in the "Kijour" who is an extant man living among the people but unlike them has supernatural powers: he knows the unknown and can predict the future, can cause rain to shower, can heal people, can do a lot of harm or a lot of good to any one wherever he is found, must be blindly obeyed, He is the sole supreme judge, and is able to do a lot of other miraculous things. The Kijour is respected, feared and believed, - in other words He is a sort of a God. He, indirectly, forces people to practice some rituals led by him to display his powers, to ensure obedience of people, and to let miracles to happen in front of the followers. Mostly every village has its own Kijour. Many of these mythologies have good teachings that conserve, rectify, and develop human society, others are amusing and entertaining funny lies. Some of mythologies are confined to some tribes and localities others have become of wider inter-tribal distribution. As every where on Earth, some of the people are blindly committed believers; others are not and many occupy all grades of intermediates.

People living in large groupings (cities and large villages) have been introduced to mighty creator Gods of supreme powers first by Muslim traders and then by European colonizers through the Christian European Missionaries who have invaded Africa more than the soldiers. Muslim traders and European missionaries have succeeded to pollute many brains and convert some people into Islam and Christianity, i.e., in the name of their God, they tried to abolish the culture and entities of the natives. However, their success was of a low and limited magnitude in remote areas up to this moment.

Being an African, I do not only know a lot of our mythologies but also have practiced African rituals in connection with them. In addition, I was exposed extensively to Greek, Roman, Christian and Islamic mythologies throughout my study years and afterwards. Besides, I tried to culture my self by reading seriously about Asian mythologies (Indian, Chinese, Japanese and others). Because of the irrationality associated with mythologies and in the absence of real scientific archeological evidence, I was convinced a long time ago that by, all measures, mythologies in all human cultures and the associated religious stories, if taken literally, is irrational, naïve and may only be convincing and amusing to children. In other words, mythology literature comprises children stories written for obsessed, irrational, dogmatic adults who have never attained maturity. Peoples of the Earth who still believe in them have been arrested in their childhood.


Alchemicfanatic 6 years ago

I have spent many hours pondering the whys and hows of the universe. I spent much of my childhood as a Christian. I loved God and had no doubt in him what-so-ever. I prayed and waited patiently for responses. My prayers were "answered" most times. I looked to the future and thought hard about my unanswered prayers. I completely trusted God and did not question why he did not always answer, as he was all-knowing. I didn't commit knowing trespasses against God. If I told a lie (to cover a broken object or whatever), I asked God for forgiveness and confessed to whomever I had lied to. I read the Bible cover-to-cover twice from age 8 to age 14. Some things seemed fantastic but I trusted God could do anything as the creator of reality itself. I did not cry when people died, even in my family. I was never saddened by their passing like everyone seemed to be. I was disheartened because I would have to wait to see them in Heaven, but never sad. Then, at fourteen, I was babtised. I have to continue in another post...


Alchemicfanatic 6 years ago

After I was babtised, I allowed myself to think outside Christianity. I researched many cultures and religions. I found mostly that people gatherd in certain regions of the world had similar beliefs. I all religion seemed to tie a connection between all living beings. This strengthened my belief in God but shattered my belief in the Bible. I didn't think that any one people had the answer to life. My great-grandfather died during these revalations. I wept for him. I wept for all my family who had gone without my mourning all at once. I believed in diety but no longer a heaven or hell. There was no consequence to life. I began to question God as a whole. Now, at 20, I no longer believe in God at all. I don't need validation of my life. We float here on this rock together. We should be happy for our breif time. Believe in humanity. We are all "God".


Andy 6 years ago

A New Testament writer referenced "cunningly devised fables" and comforted the readers that he and the other apostles were eye-witenesses of the majesty of Christ. They, and many others, personally saw the miracles of The Lord Jesus Christ. It's a matter of truth and believing in the Truth. There is a hill far away where stood an old rugged cross, and there the Son of God sacrificed himself for our sins. God raised him the third day and he sits beside the Father today to make intercession for us. Trust him and call on his name for salvation. Confess him as Lord, and leave all the fables alone.


Notta 6 years ago

So,let's look at this with an open-mind shall we? By looking at most religions we can all agree that there are some key similarities, though some have less than others. Pretty much every religion to have ever existed states, that everything we know and exists was created by a divine source above our understanding, that death leads to some form of an "afterlife", and there is some form of divine punishment for similar crimes(though these crimes vary and some have no mention of punishment, but a life after death all he same).

So it surprises me to hear that these similarities in, almost, all religions would defer someone away from their beliefs. We forget that every thought ever produced and every word spoken,are all a matter of opinion, and they come from,and are interpreted,by how we perceive the world around us, for I wouldn't know how to read and write if my parents and their and their parents parents did not teach each other.You can compare this to how we greet one-another,in English we say hello,in Spanish hola,in french Bonjour,and ect. All these words mean the same thing

but are interpreted differently.

let us assume that it's possible that all, or most of the major, religions of the world are somehow connected but no culture quite "hit the nail on the head"and let's use the topic at hand as an example(Greek mythology and Creationism).

In Greek Mythology Zeus, the patron and ruling god of all gods, is depicted as an older looking man with a long beard whom sits on his throne in the clouds all day and would smite those whom angered him with a lightning bolt.Hmm sounds familiar, for most Christians, or a mocking atheist, would describe God as,an older looking man with a long beard, whom sits on his throne in the clouds all day and would smite those whom angered him with a lightning bolt...or fire,earthquakes,and floods. And what of the other demi-gods or deities in Greek Mythology, these beings who are held in higher regards than humans but have all too many human qualities such as, the ability to consume and become intoxicated from alcohol,the ability to have sex and bear children with other gods and humans, the right and desire to marry,and frequently repeating the same mistakes and sins such as murder, jealousy, adultery, stealing, deception,and excessive quarreling amongst one another just to name a few.So what to compare these beings to then? Well it states in the bible that after Lucifer and his followers lost the war against god they fell from heaven unto earth. Soon others followed and these "fallen angels" had the ability to lay and bear children with human women.That is to say that these beings whom had a divine power about them, but were also flawed and human-like, fell from heaven unto earth.Need I say more? And why would this be so hard to believe, most of the time when we speak of god or angels we simply say god and have no names to attribute god or his angels to, why would it be blasphemous to say that Zeus was just the ancient Greek's name for the same figure we call god and worship today,and the other demi-gods were angels who humans started worshiping and began to get out of hand?

No one can truly say since all we know of the past is what our ancestors left behind, but I would take whatever the Greeks said a little more seriously as they were one of the most famous and most powerful nations to ever exist and were far ahead, when it came to technology and politics. for their time


sokka25 6 years ago

Read the percy jackson and the olimpian series its really good and gives hints that the gods might just be around still. I can,t wait till the movie comes out!


sane  6 years ago

Has anybody sat and thought to themselves that I could find hundreds of mentally insane people in a crazy house and ancient people knew nothing of mental illness so for me to hear that people witnessed something means nothing. These stories were made up to help explain what uneducated people were seeing in the world around them. Religion is a really stupid thing to preach about how it is real

Grow up people


john  6 years ago

Great essay, really makes one think. After reading all of your responses with all sorts of evidence ranging from 100 years ago to 10,000 years ago makes it clear that no one can really know for sure, no one will ever know and the timeless question of which religion is right or if there is any religion at all. I just advise everyone to be open minded to all possibilities and not to be so stubborn and rational. For myself, most of the evidence is pointing to me believing that there is a higher power, but I'm not to sure if i can devote myself to one of these religions. Anyway, how do we even know if any of these religions and textual evidence wasn't made up by someone who was bored on a rainy day? We even know if anything said in the Bible is true. Though one might say "you gotta have faith", I myself think that's bullshit, and won't believe it until I see it.


mommas boy 6 years ago

wow dawg


Andrew 6 years ago

I've always admired greek mythology!

As a Roman Catholic I find it amazing and wonderful that

we find similarities, always wondered about it.

This only confirms that God is real, and though the greeks may have perceived it differently this only confirms christianity's legitimacy :)

Thank you for sharing this!

Ad Jesum per Mariam.


serenitysheir . . .  6 years ago

I have to say you all are very smart (well most of you are.) But I must point out things I don't under stand about christianity.

1. god made Satan go to hell right? so satan hates god right? so why does he punish people because they don't like god? I mean would he not praise them?

2. God says that being prideful is wrong. Yet he him self wants you to worship him for making you. Is that not pride

3.Thou shall not kill? is that correct? yet in the old testament doesn't he say you should stone people to death is that not killing?

. . . most of these i just want to point out to anyone

I think i would like to believe in greek mythology more then the bible because at least zeus is nice at points he has never killed millions of people just because they would not listen to him .. . ie Egypt the great flood . . .and that one city that he turned to stone i can't remember its name at the moment . . . all im saying is if i had to be forced to pick some religion it would be Greek myth over christianity.

And by the way someone said earlier that i don't believe because i fear god . . . i believe that people only believe in god because they fear death they can't stand the thought of just being dead


Justin 6 years ago

Im 17,and when I was 4 my mom told me their was a God,Darkness clouded me.When I was younger,I almost died but this burst of light saved me but it didn't look as an angel.I seen my grandfather smiling in my vision driving after he died.I just confuse I neglected the bible because its all exaggerations and folk tales of the truth,and everytime I neglect it I fear something is watching me chills come down my arms.


Justin 6 years ago

Up to this day wheres any proof that Jesus ever existed,and why is he considered a Jew when the bible scripted him as having rough hair and a nappy beard sounds African American,plus Jews call Jesus a phantom he was a copy cat savior from the true savior etc...What really fools people today is when we talk Egyptians,Pharoahs.the Asiatics in Africa we see them tanned skinned or Arabic when the country was dominated by African Americans.I mean people act like African Americans came from no where which kinda throughs a thought of think has Christianity has always been a white mans religion,I remember slave traders and owners changing my ancestors belief abandoned their beliefs for survival.To me theirs no God there is only something beyond our knowledge that we wont understand till end of days,as we are clueless of what to go by the very people 1000 of years were as well as they didn't have technology as we have to even find lost evidence.I always said their is an explanation behind everything even begin of life.


Justin 6 years ago

I remember someone saying in here life and religions are going to sound alike only because everyone needs to know life and how it started etc... To keep society from being inhuman which throws thoughts wasn't society inhuman 500 years ago,where wars was entertainment for the Romans and any European Nation who settle West to United States.My time scale is not accurate but you get my point across.lol,I heard when the Europeans landed on Native soil which is United States they never seen people with such power and clothes and thought they were Gods at 1st even though they were Spirituals they didn't believed in a God just that we were children of the Earth and Sun,and instead of searching history of folk tales and exaggerate stories our history beyond life is right in front of us the Sun and the very rock that we live on mother Earth.We reproduce and everything does,diseases,viruses,mold anything who ever said Earth can't.I remember someone saying we was made from dirt and sand.Cant finish


Justin 6 years ago

Their Earth was very simple at once we were a flames and full of magma before life,but at this time I feel life some where else existed,who settled hear and yes aliens exist and I still feel they speeded up our developing process on Earth as Earth was fuse with radiation and chemicals, that life begins somewhere and God didn't create people out the blue like the bible states which is lies if you tell me.Tell the truth their isn't a God.We do this to keep society from recklessness and wars.I feel Aliens speed up our process of life as the Earth had all the things and chemicals to create life,so if these aliens drop any evidence or germs visiting the Earths process it would build life as you need a catalyst that speeds a chemical reaction,and if these unknown life drop anything with forms of life it would start life as sciencetist has proof that life needs a condition to began as Mars has similarities towards Earth but lacks the importance for life food,water and a consistent source the Sun which is need daily


Aegeus 6 years ago

It is true that the events in the bible do take place about a thousand years before the rise of Greece but it is also true that the events were written thousands of years later with the Qu'ran predating it.The bible was written well after the Greeks had already established their religion and had been worshipping for well over 1000 years.The abrahamic tribes who had been "passing down" the stories by mouth had great variations on what the stories said so they all had to come to an agreement in the 2nd century BCE.Their religoin was a pagan religion for pagan means of the country it wasn't organized.The Dead sea scrolls do coincide with Greek religion also, and the revisions made in the bible were made in Rome which was the ruling empire of the west after Greece had already stood for thousands of years.Greek mythology can be dissproven as much as any other religion and events no more and no less if you do your research.But religions aren't supposed to be based on science of proving something wrong through it,it is based on love and faith.In the bible it says men were created in gods image and people have no problem with that.But people have problems with Greek Gods looking like people or us looking like them.Christians have always tried to prove their religion by saying hey,look, this event right here has historical evidence backing it up and it is very similar to an event that happened in the bible so the bible must be right.But they stand and forget about how many times the bible is disproved by evidence.One person who commented said thet the idea of Atlas holding the Earth has been disproved but show me proof of your god and of your Satan through facts that can be accounted for and not just say that it is in the bible because when you say that the stories have been passed down by word of mouth all that I see is a big line of gossip being ever so distorted over a couple of hundred years.Someone also said that the bible has prophesized many things that came true, but so has just about any other religion.They all predicted war,earthquakes,floods,chaos, and disaster but for some reason you say that the bible was the only one that is right.The Greeks had oracles that correctly prophesized many disasters,deaths,events, and many other things coming true to this day.Nostradamus is the most widely know prophesizer who did not base his readings on god but on the stars just as many Greeks did.To the person who said a burst of light saved you,how did you almost die.Many people of every religion claimed to have seen,felt or heard things during near death experiences from the chinese to the Africans, but it all predates back to ancient Greece.

"As a Roman Catholic I find it amazing and wonderful that

we find similarities, always wondered about it.

This only confirms that God is real, and though the greeks may have perceived it differently this only confirms christianity's legitimacy :)"

Someone said this earlier and I have a question for them.Why must everything that isn't the same as your religion be cast off as a rip off and just add more legitimacy to your religion.Maybe your religion adds more proof to thers in the fact that many religions are older and similarities are found between them and yours.So yours must be some kind of rip off then,right?

"Ummm, you can believe anything you want man, but having "gods" that act like 3 year olds and cause pain, suffering, etc. just because they jealous of humanity. That does not sound like a very enticing religion to me. They found Zeus's birthplace with an altar on it, that just means that whoever made up his birthplace decided to worship there as well. Why aren't the Greek gods still up to mischief or making half immortal babies? Or heroes running around with god given armor? What about all the reasons for the weather change, the sun coming and leaving, the earths ability to float in space (Atlas)? All of this has been dis-proven scientifically. Not to mention the trojan war is so old that there isn't a way to accurately judge that. Feel free to believe what you want sir but in my own opinion and having studied Greek mythology, it is outdated and scientifically proven that it is fictional."

Why would you say that the Greek gods act like three year olds.Just because they caused pain w over jealousy and when no one believed in them.Are we not created in gods image.Does your god not kill people when no one believed in him or cause torment and destruction when people praised other gods (i.e JEALOUSY). Tell me why do we not see any people right now with great powers dividing seas.bringing the dead back to life,healing sickness and disease.Before you comment you should look at the modern parallels of which you question.

"Uhm the oldest book in the Bible predates the Greek and Roman Empires both so I am a little confused as to how the validity of the bible is in question here. The Basis of facts and similarities in Christian religion and Greek Mythology is there wich should be reasearched more, but the conclusion that Greek Mythology was the prelude to christianity is purely a stretch by far in assumption because it holds no fundamental fact in history."

The oldest book in the bible clearly does predate EVERYTHING for it is another story of creation.But tell me when it was written, a good 2000 years after Greece had gave birth to western civilization.The FACT that Greek "Mythology" predates any christian stories holds as much evidence for being real as the bible does.You mustn't be so quick to cast off one thing when you think that you have proven another.

"I don't know you,but i will be praying for you. I am a Christian, and i just want to tell you that the Bible is absolutely true. John 3:16 says,"For God so loved the world, that he gave His only begotten son, that whosoever beleiveth on Him should not perish,but have everlasting life". That simply means that God sent His son Jesus to come to Earth,and die a painful death on a cross, just so everyone that would accept and believe Him could go to heaven and live eternally. In case you haven't noticed, the word MYTH is is Greek mythology. Myth means not real or fake. All you have to do is repent, and ask Jesus to forgive you of your sins. I am only 14, and if you are scared to become a Christian just because you don't want to give something up, you should just let it go. I'm sure if you thought about it you would rather live forever in a painless place than to watch that tv show or say that word or whatever it is. Jesus loves everyone, and He will forgive you........no matter how bad you are."

Once again, Greek religion was called Greek Mythology by the Catholic church at first because they were denouncing the Greek religion.Of course they're not going to say that their religion was mythology because that would mean that they would be working backwards from the purpose they established.The only piece of evidence that come close to having any proof is the quote from the bible but that has less proof behind than most other religions including Greek Paganism.The church came up with the term Paganism to group most other religions so that when they denounce one and say ridculous things about one that people would think them all the same.If someone were to eat someone in the amazon for their religion they would be classified as a pagan and if the pope were to say that pagans eat one another what would you think?

"Why do U people think that the bible is Fake. even though there are similar corelations why does the Christian bible speaks of the prophcies that are occuring today. this bible was written thousands of years ago? so one needs to think hard and long Jesus was a Real Man God is real to. There is much trickery going on in the world today. such as this now i don't doubt or say that greek mythology may not have an affect but i will say There is a True and Living God that heals people, bring lives back from the dead, doctors nor greek mythology can explain these occurances and how the bible has given prophcies so long ago that are occuring today. I pray that you all find the TRUTH Jesus is Real i know him o too well and the Living God is real!!! people


Aegeus 6 years ago

This is a continuation of my post above

"people please repent and go back to the foot of the CROSS!!!!"

Of course.Just because Jesus was a real man like many cult leaders are real men, then all of their gods must be real then right.Everytime someone says that the bible was written well after the Greeks and it was written many years after Jesus was born and died.So Jesus was born in the year zero by our calenders but Greece begun around 3,000 BCE so it gives them over 3,000 years to establish themselves and find the true Gods.

"So basically, because there are similarities between other religions and Christianity, the Bible is counted as false? That's ridiculous. Of course they are going to predate Christianity, it wasn't made until the time of Christ! Which is hundreds of years before Christ was even born. Judaism however has been around as long as the other religions, which does speak of the same God etc. Dead sea scrolls anyone? Yea they predate Constantine's revision of the Bible and stay constant with the Bible's accounts. Other documents have been found that were written a long time before the Roman's revised the Bible that stay consistent with what it has to say (meaning what the documents say are what we see in the bibles we read today). This reinforces that scholars are correct when they say the bible is a very old document that has remained constant(relatively speaking due to translations between languages). The similarities, of course there will be similarities, it is common sense people! Man has to have been created somehow. So what's the non-scientific explanation? God or some other form of supernatural being right? Does that sound consistent with most religions of the time? They had to explain how the world works, how it was created and what happens to the human soul in some way shape or form. How else would they cope with their lives? Answer: religion and stories to give life meaning, purpose and a hope for a life beyond this one. It is the purpose of mythology throughout humanities entire existence so if that's the case why wouldn't there be similarities in what they said? Does that make one religion correct of all others? That is up to you. The consistencies between them show that there are certain things you could consider true no matter which religious orientation you are but where do the similarities end and originality begins? My belief is Christianity because of its differences from other religions and it's uniqueness in how God treats humanity with obviously good intentions as well as a few other details that set it apart from others (i'm sure most of you have researched these as well). So what is the conclusion? Rather than research all of this information and tip the scales towards discrediting Christianity because for some odd reason you just want to prove it wrong with "rational" and "logical" deductions of religion. How in any way, shape, or form is that open minded (what most scientists etc. claim to be about religion)when you are just trying to disprove it from the beginning rather than actually try it out? This was a good article and I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Please think about what I have said. Thanks and God Bless you."

I have but one thing to say to this.Your proof or whatever you want to call it talks of the Romans who praised the same gods as the Greeks, BUT the Greeks had been a civilization for 3000 years before the idea that was Rome was even uttered let alone built and expanded.

"A discussion on this is just what I've been looking for!!! I'm writing an article proving that the Puritans of 1600's who came to the New World are descended from the Jews, and that the Greek and Roman gods are in part patterned after people in the Bible's Old Testament! The evidence is overwhelming! Many small details line up and I'm also coming to find that it is indeed possible to find the direct link from Noah down to the present day! The God of Abraham has preserved the records and He knows where they are! God is revealing this in these days for because the prophecies of the Old Testament are approaching their total fulfillment. God has hidden His story and glory out in the open for all to see but few to understand until the time of the end. All will see His second coming and EVERY knee will bow to Him. He is the great God of Justice, but He is also the God of great mercy, kindness, love, compassion, and calling all who willlisten to His open and tender arms. The only people He seems harsh to are those who refuse to acknowledge Him as LORD!! He says,"come, you who are heavy with burdens, and I will give you rest"!!!

Yes, I am very interested in discussion!"

You fail to aknowledge that the Old Testament was written about 3200 years after Greece was born and that what you say the Greeks patterned after the Old Testament could not have been possible due to THOUSANDS OF YEARS and that the Old Testament was probably patterned after the Greeks!The prophecies that you speak have been around far longer than the Old Testament and most religions have the same prophecies of the second comings of gods and great unrest in the last days.But I suppose that most christians would just say that these religions that are much older must've took the prophecy from the bible,right?

I would very much enjoy comments from others so if any one would want we could chat over emails my email is theodenx(at)yahoo.com .Please if all you going to do is send hate mail and bash just because of insecurities or because I don't believe what you do and I can easily disprove many things than don't bother. THANKS


MB 6 years ago

I came across this site while trying to find info on that difficult passage in Genisis where angels joined with the daughters of men.

But my comments are;

1, How can some of the contributors to this debate claim that the Koran predates the Bible! Any reasonable scholar of the OT can trace its origins to the time of Solomon and before. Much of the Bible can be verified by both. archeology & comtemporary historical accounts.

2, Homer and other Greek historians can also be reliably traced back to the time of Solomon. Archeology does also verify much greek mythology and I find it all fascinating.

3, IBy the time of the golden age of Greek literature most Greek mythology had all but been discredited by educated Greeks.But this was also the time when Greek mythology was first reliably recorded. Well after the OT had been cannonised.

4, When Paul the apostle taught the Greeks c. AD 60, he bought the attention of the wise men of Athens to the "Unknown God". (Whom they could now know through the Lord Jesus) All part of the spread of Christianity.

I trust that this clears up some misunderstandings.


ITS ME!!!!! 6 years ago

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It's All A Myth 6 years ago

I urge all theists to simply use common sense and focus on scientific, objective information. I do not believe the Bible is "the word of God" or any other religious texts such as the Qur'an (Islam) or Tanakh (Judaism) to be true. I believe they are a collection of stories written to explain the natural curiosities and phenomena that humans have and encounter in the world around them.

I'm not trying to offend anyone - religion is a very sensitive topic. I just ask you to please keep an open mind.

My position is coming as an atheist. Atheism isn't really about not believing in a God / supreme being / creator, but rather a lack of evidence proving the existence of a supernatural being.

Personally, I would be happy if there was a God who was merciful and who would allow me to be with my family forever in a paradise. I have to think rationally and ask myself is this possible? You have to wonder why theists believe in a religion created thousands of years ago when our understanding of the world around us was not clear. The Bible is filled with supernatural occurrences and yet we don't see any of those things today because our science and technology have vastly improved our understanding of natural forces.

As I said in my opening statement - use common sense. I'm going to discuss a few of the stories I grew up with as a Christian and examine why they cannot be true.

Let's take the story of Noah and his ark. Most Americans - religious or not know this story.

God is unhappy with mankind so he decides to destroy all livings things by drowning them in a flood - except, Noah and his family and some animals used to repopulate the Earth. He builds an ark, loads it with a pair of every creature and locks himself in the ark as heavy rains flood the globe - killing all land dwellers not inside the ark. This is just a quick summary, but you get the idea. I want you to consider the following:

1. Why would God destroy everyone on the Earth only to have the Earth populated again with 6 billion+ sinners? What was the purpose? There are still good and evil people among us.

2. If Noah's family were the only people on the Earth, that would suggest we are all descendants of him. This is impossible. There is simply not enough genetic variation to explain all the different peoples we see today. As you may or may not know, intermarriage can cause many genetic defects. A perfect case is the Amish. The Amish have intermarried for centuries and many in their population suffer from strange genetic disorders. Perform an Internet search on "Amish genetic disorders" and you will see examples of what I'm talking about.

3. I don't want to get into the mathematics, but it is scientifically impossible to flood the Earth completely covering mountains, etc. which the Bible suggests. Where would the water come from and where would it go? Remember, the Earth has a fixed amount of water.

I urge theists not to use the argument that "well God did it" or "He made it happen because it was His will". Those type of rebuttals are cop outs. If you are just going to say well "God did it", then all of my points will be moot regardless.

Noah's Ark is one example of MYTH. Even the 3 religions - Christianity, Judaism, and Islam have their own interpretations of this story! Most Americans believe Islam is completely different from Christianity but actually they are quite similar. This has to do with culture and how stories are passed down and interpreted differently. If this was a true historical event AND truly God's word, wouldn't it be plain and simple? Wouldn't God want everyone to have the exact same message? Bottom line, it's a story just like you hear in Greek mythology.

Please don't take the Bible literally! In my opinion, if you are a theist, then you are imprisoned. Why? Because the Church, Temple, Synagogue, Mosque are all forms of control.

Wow, God made man in His image. Sounds like a man wrote this! Why do you think women are still oppressed even in America? Can you imagine what it must be like to be a woman in a developing country or a nation that is stubbornly attached to religious fundamentalism? Just take a look at Arab countries in the Middle East and many African nations. They're all taught that women are the "root of evil". Because of women, God punished man. How convenient is that? A reason to keep men in power and women in bondage.

There are so many other stories containing scientifically impossible events. I found this site: http://www.hiddenmeanings.com/biblemythology.htm. It made me laugh a little bit because I didn't realize there were so many myths since I hadn't read the Bible in a long time. When I was younger, I was taught these stories were historically accurate. I am proud to say that my mind is now FREE! I don't attach myself to ANY religion.

I challenge you to throw down your religion. Realize you don't need religion to be a good person. Free your mind!


wifey 6 years ago

this, like all discussions about religion, has turned into a battle of who is right and who is wrong. It is ridiculous that people are debating who is right here...this all is very interesting but it happened years ago, and this world is in such a mess, people should be out there helping others, just as Jesus did, not sitting there seeing who can shout the loudest to get their point across.


freyja 6 years ago

i have begun to notice that somewhere all within every religion has its similarties. mainly i think when humans were born here or however we got here, we didn't know what to worship so someone started to praise the moon and sun etc. and so on and so on each religion has copied off one another and all have similarities between eachother.


stellabear 6 years ago

This is really great. I'm glad I found this site. I am doing a research paper for my high school English class on how Greek and Roman Mythology influenced this here on earth.


mario 6 years ago

My daughter said it best "why do you need a religion to be good?, are you afraid of being good just to be it?

I will add my own.

There's only one race in the world. It's the Human Race

There's only one langauge. Its Love

There's only one god. Its you, me and every other human being that ever inhabited this small home of ours

Unttil we all understand this very simple concept, we will continue to argue the afterlife instead of taking care of one another in the present.

All of your stories are true because they are all true to someone. Yet they are all lies because none of them encourages you to appreciate one another without preconditions, and they all warn of horrible punishments to those that chose not to believe them.

I'll tell you what I believe in. I believe in my children and yours, I believe they will see the humanity in the rest of their "Brothers and Sisters" and will make an effort to help those less fortunate than them, and will have the courage to ask for help of those from whom they might need it.

Thank you for a great discussion!!!


prayingforyou 6 years ago

I hope God uses all you unbelievers to do his work one day....


Alex 6 years ago

Lol, this article is dumb, IF the stories of the Bible are true they would have happened long before Greek mythology was made up. Furthermore, much of the information in the Old Testament was written LONG before Greek Mythology (1200BC vs 500BC). Like all stories and religions, Greek Mythology contains kernels of the Truth that is found in the Bible.


charlie 6 years ago

i don't believe in religion but i loved this article because it made me not believe in catholicism even more.also i absolutely love greek mythology because its so much more interesting than modern religions.


Biron 6 years ago

I agree completely with this article. this is what Ive thought since i was Ten years old.who needs religion to run their lives.


tyler 6 years ago

well those similarities are not even that similar at all for the most part. and

Obviously there was nothing in the beginning i think you will find several religons believing in the nothingness.

I think the real problem is the greeks copied parts of the old testament.


Rashidah 6 years ago

Excellent article.

I personally believe that religion is Bull.


thesmartguy 6 years ago

How silly you people are! What balderdash you speak!! When we die, where are we gonna go? Just simply fade away into nothing? No, we are going to go somewhere, and that will be Heaven or Hell. How did the ocean get here? The moutains? They were created, and they created by God. Greek mythology seems quite unrealistic, as much as I love it. I find it hard to believe satyrs, centaurs,nymphs, etc. What about all those saints that have felt God in their hearts, and they were NOT mental. There are so many miracles and things you cannot explain that relates to God. If you say the Bible is fake, I have every right to denounce your religion has pathetic and useless. To all of you non-belivers, I say "Faugh!!"


Pizentu 6 years ago

I challenge any and all to create something out of absolute nothing. When this happens, I may then question the existance of a Creator.

To the alien ant farm believers- how did the aliens come to existance? Did other forms plant them on their planet? I have my complaints and grievences with the things I see. But I would be a fool to say there is no God. Whos religion is right? I do not know. Maybe all of them hold some truth in them. Man just mixed it up and some used it to control the masses.

If there is no god, then what do mens laws matter? What do morals matter? No God means pure evil.

To athiests-

If I am wrong and there is no Creator, the WORST thing that can happen is I will become dust and no longer exist.

If your wrong and there is a Creator, the outcome is far worse.

These are just the opinions and thoughts of a man in search of Truth. If you belive something else, thats your right. That doesnt make you right or wrong. Nor does it make me right or wrong. Maybe everything is just a dream inside your head.


sam 6 years ago

greek mythology is a perversion of the old testament. The old testament came first. Jews settled in greece and that is why there are similarities.



NoSpinDawg 6 years ago

The comments are better than the post.


NoSpinDawg 6 years ago

First, it's easy to see who's educated.

Anyone ripping the Bible for inaccuracies, being rewritten several hundred years ago or just myths and fables, has never studied history OR the Bible. They're showing their ingorance or stupidity up front. Moron is the best description.

The Hebrew account of Genesis 3 ties with The Book of Enoch and very much coincides with much of Greek Mythology. Since the Hebrew account was recorded prior to the Greeks and includes the spreading of man throughout the world, it's not hard to believe these stories were passed on to generations throughout the entire world. Aztecs, Native Americans, Africans, Asians... etc. They all have similar stories of events and practices.

Now whether we believe the accuracy of the stories and to what degree we take them at face value or as symbology for something simpler is up to us. But to deny the fact that the Bible is an ancient book that predates the Greeks shows ignorance and a failure to accept reality. Just like it is for Christians, Jews or others to refuse to accept ancient accounts from other cultures and peoples.


arthur 6 years ago

well, i suck at math, so all this predating stuff is making my mind go at 1000 miles per hour.


Felix 6 years ago

Their is certainly variouse opinions and beliefs going around but i have to say one question that has come to mind reading all these excerpts,is my intenions to all this that is something everyone should be asking themselves. Because if it's for personnel truth than be my guest but if people are trying to prove wrong other beliefs than i feel their is something you should really think back on cause how much of a person really are you to prove that person wrong .Yes opinions are cool but the way you approach the theme reall means a lot its call be considerate for others. Me personnly i do have thoughts about the compare and contrast Christianty really has with numerouse cultures and tales but by the end of the day i do believe their a God i don't try to unclarify that subject.


brobor 6 years ago

Everyone has their own opinion whether its myth or fact, but we should all realize the fact that both stories have its similarities neither be debated, but yet should be questioned and sorted. Its rather facinating that being predated among one another is just as amazing because they came from different events in time and places and from different cultures. They all have true meaning and we all know that much deep down and that's why we question such event. If we didn't find it interesting then there wouldn't be a debate. I believe that all on both sides myth and legend play an important role. Is legend myth? or is myth legend? that's what I always ask myself. You can go online and google your life away trying to find answers but all your gonna find is the opinion of a fellow researcher that's in the same boat as we all are in today. All we can do is have faith and not question our creator. We were told to have faith and faith is what we should have and not question the bible, greek "myths" or even other cultures and beliefs. Just look at it this way, what ever happened or how it may started was then fortold over the years and carried to other cultures to spread the word of "god" or "gods" whichever it may be. The fact of the matter is that we need to go with what's in your heart and listen rather than question because questioning disconnects us from our true god. To me, all this information and confusion that was set out to confuse society is pure evil and is evil's way of bringing us disbelief in our creator.


Prokos 6 years ago

Why do they say greek and roman mythology? the greeks created it and then the romans conquered greece, stole it, and renamed it. That's all, they had nothing to do with the ideas they just renamed what they stole.


bigkampe 6 years ago

This was an excellent article. Too often I notice that the "believers" use tactics to evoke fear into those who don't believe. I was heavily indoctrinated as a child and it wasn't until I really examined the stories of Bible before I could admit that things didn’t line up. Ok, enough of my own testimony. I want to quote the type of rational for belief that I absolutely hate hearing, because it's NOT faith.

"I challenge any and all to create something out of absolute nothing. When this happens, I may then question the existance of a Creator.

To the alien ant farm believers- how did the aliens come to existance? Did other forms plant them on their planet? I have my complaints and grievences with the things I see. But I would be a fool to say there is no God. Whos religion is right? I do not know. Maybe all of them hold some truth in them. Man just mixed it up and some used it to control the masses.

If there is no god, then what do mens laws matter? What do morals matter? No God means pure evil.

To athiests-

If I am wrong and there is no Creator, the WORST thing that can happen is I will become dust and no longer exist.

If your wrong and there is a Creator, the outcome is far worse.

These are just the opinions and thoughts of a man in search of Truth. If you belive something else, that's your right. That doesn't make you right or wrong. Nor does it make me right or wrong. Maybe everything is just a dream inside your head."

First, the Bible actually doesn't say God created the Earth. It says the Earth was void and without form. The creation of the universe is largely implied, but not mentioned much.

Second, believing the Bible because you want to save your arse is NOT faith. It’s fear! AND, it's a total copout because you yourself have doubts that you don’t want to confront, yet you're using it as a tool to put fear into others.

Third, and most importantly, if your proof for a creator is the creation, then the creator must have had a creator too. How did the creator come into existence? Hypothetically, the creator will always be far more complex than its creation, but the creation CANNOT be the basis of proof for a creator.

We simply do not know what is right, but only through proper examination (like exploring the issues in the article) will we ever get closer to the truth.

Take care.


cyrusv 6 years ago

In fact it does make you question the relievence of darnned ole chritianity.My quall is with the ones who like to close there minds and pass over one fact.That fact being that( myth vs chritianity), theogins will say that chritianity is more likely because in mythology you have monsters and multi headed beasts .Well if in fact mythology is real then that would also prove evolotion true therfore giving the beasts and monsters more probability due to the fact that evolution tells us we evolve and was a big bang,well evolving dosent always mean you'll be pretty or have one head or be big and scary.If in fact this is true we would have had creatures of this kind.So to say that mythology is a fictinal story would be an opinion.Now christianity,hmmm well let see first we have the climb a mountain talk to fire and say check this story out guy,then we have build an ark to save people guy(hmm you did mention a similar guy in mythology ehh),then we have im a virgin here's my son story. So to sum this up im torn in thought and as with the rest of living creation haven't the slightest knowledge of the truth.As far as we know we live,we die then worms eat us.Remember you can like a story even if it isn't true if it intrests you read it,if its relivent spread it,if it consumes you your a believer(addicted).Its your mind believe what it wants to.


NotAllCanBeCorrect 6 years ago

So many people state the fact that religions are too far fetched and disproved by science, for example the sky being held up by Atlas or Ganesh having multiple arms and the head of an elephant.

The fact that science has not disproved a portion of religion YET, does not mean it is the truth. A lot of religions are closed-minded and have great ignorance of science, which is needed because science often contradicts religions. Religion also seems to fill the voids of the unknown. Ignorance is the root of all religion. It is true until proven otherwise.

It also amuses me when people state that actions are not god-like. Who on this planet has met a god and knows them well enough to know their behaviour or who can even begin to comprehend their thoughts. The same way an ant cannot understand the engineering behind the aeroplane, and nor would I expect it to.

Hypocrisy is a very large part of religion as follows often see anyone who does not share their belief as being inferior and will pay by going to their hell. With Christianity, if you do not believe in Jesus then you will go to hell. So if you do, you go to heaven, but also go to all the other religions hell. How would that work?

The Christian God is supposed to be all forgiving and all knowing. Why is it that he banished Adam and Eve from the garden of Eden and why did he not create Humans to be nicer so they would still be in Eden. Your answer may be that he has given us free will. But we do not have free will, we have a set of parameters and we usually sway towards the worse end of them. Why not create us so we enjoyed being nicer people, but could also be evil and malicious.

Evolution in most religions is seen as ridiculous. If that is the case why are there so many different breeds of dogs? Albeit humans have played a large roll in this but if humans can do this over the course of a few decades, is it really that hard to believe that natural selection and survival of the fittest has a major roll to play in why species are the way they are, and mother nature has had many millions of years to do so.

Why are pretty much all species asymmetrical and have a head leading the body. They all look pretty Earthly. Maybe God ran out of ideas or just didn't want to scare any humans with crazy looking beasts. Or is it just because that is how everything evolved? I favour the latter.

If we all descended from Adam and Eve, their grandchildren would be inbred and deformed, so Adam and Eve probably didn't even look like how we do today? Wait, wouldn't that be evolution? Or is there no such thing as deformities from same DNA breeding and having the same faults?


EriK 6 years ago

I wish people would do a >little< more research than this.

Have you ever considered that the reason you find similar stories from other religions is that Christianity is true, and the others are all knock-offs? After all, if one event actually happened in history, it would be reasonable to presume that many different cultures would have similar tales, some less accurate than others.

For various rebuttals of "copy-cat" claims, check out Tektonics.org or Christian-ThinkTank.org.

~EriK


EriK 6 years ago

I wish people would do a >little< more research than this.

Have you ever considered that the reason you find similar stories from other religions is that Christianity is true, and the others are all knock-offs? After all, if one event actually happened in history, it would be reasonable to presume that many different cultures would have similar tales, some less accurate than others.

For various rebuttals of "copy-cat" claims, check out Tektonics.org or Christian-ThinkTank.org.

~EriK


leroy 6 years ago

ok im going to quote genesis 1 verse 1 from the king james bible. "in the beginning god created heaven and the earth".

well here's a simple question that may make all the difference. Where did god come from? What was he doing before he made heaven and earth? Floating around in space with nowhere to go?Why bother making you and me? Your taught that hes a kind and loving god , why does he kill millions of us every year from earthquakes hurricanes disease famine? If he hates us worshiping the wrong god so much why doesn't he just come down here and say to all of us look im the real god worship me? Im pretty sure that would end all war right there. why Would god allow so many religions to even exist if yours is the 1 true 1. How come christians believe in their god just as much as islamic people and jews do? Why are all people so scared of death and need to believe in an afterlife.? Why cant you just be happy with what you have and treat all people with good and respect just because you want to? If their was no eternal damnation would you go off and murder one another because it didn't matter? are you just a bad person deep down? i for one will respect everyone because no 1 person is better than another. we all have different talents. no 1 talent is better than another. no way of thinking is better than another. its just how you are. Why do you argue so much about something that matters so little. The core belief of christians is to love one another. why don't you just do that and worry about all the other garbage you've been taught for when you meet your maker. Idk it seems to me that the person who only does right because he wont be blessed with happiness is more petty than the man who does right just because its right. Deep down i think their is a god, a god who is disappointed with his creations for messing up so bad with what he originally taught us. Live life to love and help each other out. do what your best at and contribute you talents to the world. BE THE BEST YOU CAN BE.


Nicky 6 years ago

You should also see the similarity between ASKLEPIOS and JESUS! :D


doughter of the one true God 6 years ago

have any of you read the book series "percy jackson and the olympians" by rick riodan? i have read every book and seen the movie the mane character percy jackson was the son of posiden the god of the seas. percy was the most power full half blood in modern time in the story he was able to controle the waters adn i hav learnd that god in the chrisian bible often used water to punish ungodly people lik noah and the ark and the story of moses when he parted the red sea so that moses could free hes people from the evil egypian king remises then he fled it when he tried but he also used it to wash away sin after you become a chrisain such as getting babtised. another is he spat in the dirt and rubbed it in a blind mans eyes and tolled him to wash up in the Jorden river the blind man did and he was heald. God has used water in many ways and i some how think that God wanted me to reat that book series but i still have yet to find out why but evan though i am only 13 and still growing in my faith i do know that God is working me through to become a teacher to those of you who don't believe in the name JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVOIR


NoU 6 years ago

So what your saying is the Greeks believed in Angels?

In what part of history do the greeks ever mention angels?

This is just another cheap shot at Christianity....nothing else to see here

and the moron who is whining about the pagans guess what??

pagans don't believe in angels either, the winter solace garbage is just a modern day atheist argument, only because atheists HAVE to provide an argument for everything.....


danny boyd 6 years ago

hey man this is some terrific information. Who amoungst us has really had a change of heart from whatever it is they had thought prior to the reading of this article? Im willing to bet that if you had read this article a christian you are still a christian, and if you had read this article an athiest you are still an athiest. etc. i am a bit indifferent when it comes to all this 'who do you believe' jargon. but this much i will say, there is something deep inside us all that promted us to even come to this article. human nature. we want to know everything. and that which we don not understand we either mystify it or magnify it. i don't know man. we're all on the same boat whether we realize it or not.


the doughter of the one true god 6 years ago

you no you are right about the fact that you have proof that there is no god but i also have proof that there is one. how? i have thought the same things that you have BUT the awnser always came back the same way.

and in gods words: i am always here with you i will always love you and no matter how many stuggles you have i will help you IF you choose to believe in me.

and saying that life is a choice that's the only real reson you were put on this earth was for choice if want to fallow him im happy for you if you don't ill pray for you and i love you no matter how athest or diferint form me that you are i love you and so dose GOD

some of you may think how can god love a sinner? or why hase my life been this way so tuff and dificult may even to were some days you want to kill your self becouse of how hard life is but if you realy and truly belive he will help you through and somtime you may think he is making it worse for you but its all a test. a test of life


Michele 6 years ago

sorry i was watching the history channel again and happened apon this site because i wanted to see how others responded to this and just as i have always bleived this subject brings out the "i am right and you are wrong" thing. that is the bases for war.if you go back and read these again you will see it. Thank you for making people think..


Sarah Simmons 6 years ago

This argument is similar to what came first the chicken or the egg. The people who believe that man’s origin came from God already have the answer to that question because they believe God created all things, including chickens who were designed in a state to lay eggs to be able to sustain their species. Nothing else makes reasonable sense, an egg can not lay itself, nor can it incubate itself, nor can its young tend to itself…really silly question that has always had an answer that man often refuses to see because he wants to find something else that indicates he has no accountability to a Creator, but simple reason and observation alone answers this question of origin..

Likewise, what came first Greek or Hebrew mythology that answer is clearly answered from history as well, if one will just examines the evidence. All known ancient archeology from the Holy Land predates everything we have ever found in Greece (period). Most scholars accept that Mesopotamia, specifically Sumer (where Abraham was from) was in fact the first civilization. This is where the culture of man started and with its religion (not religions). There was no questions as to who “He” was, “He” just was, and ancient man accepted it because they were smart enough to realize that nothing comes from nothing, and something greater than themselves made them. This supports philosophy that a system must be made from an outside source greater than itself.

According to ancient Hebrew stories God made Himself known clearly before the Great Flood and after the Flood He changed things in regards to how he dealt with men. He even said, “my spirit will not always strive with man (Gensis 6:3)”. So after the Flood things changed and that is where stories were changed. There was basically an agreement of how thing came about and as men moved around stories evolved into other thing, like both Canaanite and Greek Mythologies. Because according to the Bible, man desired to worship the creation rather than the Creator. You are right there are similarities, but it is because the Hebrew stories come from oral traditions that predate the flood and everything else evolved from it. Not the other way around. Greek Mythology is a mutation from oral traditions.

We can see rituals, like sacrifices all have a common origin. Did man just wake up one day and say, hey I have an idea, lets kill a lamb to make an offering to the sky god? No I think not, that sacrifice concept had an origin that did not start with man. Why would man willingly offer a viable source of food to some unknown thing...that makes no survival sense at all. No animals make sacrifices, or rituals, so why would man develop them??? (Think about it!). Man was required by God from the Fall to offer sacrifice for the penalty of disobedience and to see a picture of his coming redemption that the Holy God of all gods would make for man kind. As man moved on he moved AWAY from the truth and developed his OWN religions.

The chicken came before the egg and God came before man, and Hebrew mythology came before Greek mythology. Anything else just does not make reasonable sense.


ahklass 6 years ago

i appreciate the incite and objectivity of the article it must have taken a while to connect all of that. I would however like to disagree with the assertion that one can only believe in a Jesus as part of a mythology. Both Flavian Josephus(Jewish) and Cornelius Tacitus(Roman) give evidence of his life and death. Josephus had written that indeed he was crucified and that shortly thereafter many thousands of ppl on both in large groups have claimed to have seen him and Christianity spread like crazy.

It is also worthy of note that Christianity is the only religion with a clear cut, specific idea of resurrection. Some myth which have been paralleled with it have even been discovered to have written after the Christian accounts.

No one can TELL someone else what to believe, and make them anymore likely to believe it. However, the fact is that Christians believe in the existence, teachings, and assertions (that He was divine) of this very historical figure. We believe he was raised to life, and that through belief in Him we can be that all the wrongs and offenses we have committed and will commit have been forgiven.

Granted, we don't always practise what we preach. As humans have free will I think that can be true of everybody. Many things have been done by Christians or in the name of Christ, that even most current Christians think were not as a result of what we believe, but of inhumane ambition, aggression and greed and pride. This includes the Crusades, and the mistreatment of other races, classes, and belief systems.

We do believe in right and wrong, and it is sad to say our actions have contradicted this. I know lots of ppl, myself included who must persistently try to live it down, but still receive the snub of the non-religious for what those who have gone before us, have done.

Just my two cents worth


Jesusfreak 6 years ago

Believe the Bible. It is true. Everything else is a distortion and fiction of the Truth. God created the universe, giants did not appear from chaos and darkness. Repent and be saved! Four easy steps:1)Admit that you are a sinner 2)Understand that you deserve death for your sin 3)Ask God to forgive and save you 4)Give your life to God


Mima 6 years ago

Men can love, hate, envy, cry, lust, rage, feel pain (emotional or physical), be passionate,compassionate, affectionate, forgiving, cruel, mischievous, etc.. All my life I have struggled with the creation/evolution debate, but as a biologist I have now happily settled in the middle. It is hard to imagine or believe that the complexity of the human range of emotions could result from a BIG BANG explosion of matter. Matter can change forms but cannot create emotions. There must be then an origin of emotions. The biblical God is supposed to be representative of all the emotions we feel because we were created in His image. The methods to how we got here, whether God used the Big Bang to create and evolution or whatever, are thus unimportant. The creation story in Genesis mentions that God created the Earth but does not say HOW He did it, nor do I believe the details would have been understood when revealed. The story had to be told in simple terms for ALL men to understand. The truth is for everyone. It does take faith too, but a mere understanding of the brain function reveals a wonderfully crafted network, still not fully understood, which points straight to a very ordered/methodical Creator, and a mere examination of the diversity of human emotions, including the ability to be critical and question our existance's meaning, as we all do here, disproves that there is no god, because minerals cannot feel, nor will they ever, no matter what superb blast they are subjected to. If you can love, you can feel. If you can feel, you cannot have simply come from some random explosion of whatever. God operates through change.


Baileybear 6 years ago

Interesting hub. I'm amazed how people continue to believe the bible with all the contradictions, plagarism of other religions, and very unscientific accounts (eg reference to the "firmament" - the sky was thought to be a solid dome above a flat earth. I'm amazed I used to believe all this crap too!


nogods 6 years ago

This is a new book out that deals extensively with comparative mythology and the Bible. The Greek and Bible myths are more closely related then what is stated here.

"On Earth as it is in Heaven, The Cosmic Roots of the Bible" details comparisons.


Hercules 6 years ago

Very Interesting. When you spoke about Zeus Paralleling God, it seems to me that the Christian faith parallels many characters in Greek Mythology, Where God could be a mix of Zeus and Cronos, Jesus a mix of Zeus, Hercules, and many other people. He has the closest relation to Zeus and Hercules out of all of them, because in both stories the mother was a very important part. Also remember that there are twelve main Olympians, and that parallels Jesus' twelve apostles. When Judas betrayed Jesus and hung himself, he was replaced with Matthias. In Greek Mythology, Hestia, one of the original Olympians, gave up her seat to give it to Dionysus, the wine god. There being a wine god again brings a parallel of the Last Supper, and communion. Also, Demeter is considered important because he gives grain, or bread. Think this over-Christianity sounds to me a lot like Greek, Sumerian, and Egyptian Mythology compacted into a single religion that could be accepted by everyone.


Josh 6 years ago

The problem with your concept is that you don't know history actually you don't know bible history. If you did then you would know that the old testament in the bible gets it's stories and facts from Torah which again if you knew history you would know to Torah predates the Greeks the Romans even Christianity.

So if you use your common sense you would see that the Greeks copied off the israelites and the Torah and the Romans copied off the Greeks. So when your trying to speak about modern Christians and the Bible you have to remember where their old testament came from which is from the Torah which again if you knew history you would know came way befor the Greeks or Romans.

So next time you try to sound smart try doing some research my friend because you do the one thing that everybody else does that tries to prove the bible wrong or fake you don't do your research on the bible where it came from who were the men that wrote it because if you did you understand what a waste of time you spent writing this


fatima 5 years ago

it's importante to read this information to inderstand the westeren wold really it's great


blue 5 years ago

i would like to thank everybody for sharing their knowledge. After reading this, i was amaze that it is not only I who are far confuse with my religion. It is just that GOd/diety/great force we all talking about is too far great to fit in one religion.. Maybe it doesn't matter what others believe in. but what matter is what You personally believe in.

There is a medical article that i have read a long time ago says that there is a tiny portion of the brain that dictates us to beleive in "something" (whatever it is) that are far from any explanation... sorry i cant remember where i have read it. Meaning that every person no matter how much they avoid their body would have faith in something they want to have faith to.

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the more we know, the more we know what we do not know.


becca 5 years ago

May i say that this was an amazing piece. It really depicts the relationship between the two religions. One thing that is true is that greek mythology came before Christianity. It was believed to begin in around 8300 BC. Christianity was really started when the Roman Emperor Constantine declared that there was a god, and he converted many Romans. Thus making Rome a major place of piety when it comes to Christianity. (The homeland of the Pope) Also, the idea the God lives in the clouds (Heavens) watching us is also closely associated towards the twelve Olympians living in the highest peak of Greece- Mount Olympus. Honestly, I find Greek Mythology to be more interesting because the Gods are more humane, they show more emotions that normal humans would show. For example falling in love with mortals, Hera's jealousies towards Zeus when he had affairs with other women... you get my drift it goes on and on... But if someone were to say, why did the ancient greeks believe in this nonsense is an insult to anyone who believes in a god. The "Myths" of ancient Greece not only came before Christianity, but the Christians developed their Ideas/religion from it. One example of this is in the bible, they actually use a reference towards Tarturus, and those who study Greek Mythology would know that it is the darkest part of the underworld. It is actually fascinating to hear the similarities- it is almost grotesque in a way.... Anyway. I take offense to anyone who calls Greek Mythology nonsense because if you believe it is nonsense, your only calling your own religion nonsense. All religions come from one another, Greek religion came before Christianity and people can say whatever they want about it, but it is quiet similar as shown in the article above.


ecoash 5 years ago

me and my friend got into a heated debate today about greek mythology and the bible. hes christian so he believes the bible is 100% true facts and events and is to be taken literally. i absolutely disagree.


Enlightened 5 years ago

I am a sophomore at ucla and i am studying greek mythology and Renaissance and Baroque art history, both as part of my general education requirements. I had never studied either of them before and had minimal to no knowledge about either greek myth or the bible/christianity before this quarter. I have seriously JUST been enlightened. God is real. This is coming from someone who was a declared atheist just 2 days ago. Seriously, lack of information and ignorance will be the death of us all. (how ironic that most of academia blames all religious people of being ignorant, and yet they are ignoring the answers that are right under their fucking noses.)

P.s. I NEVER comment on random internet blogs, or whatever this is, so the fact that i am, for this reason, means that i really mean it.


Enlightened 5 years ago

Sorry it's really late, in response to all those that caught my "either or" mistake


Alex 5 years ago

The very beginning of Genesis 6 - before the account of Noah begins - opens the door to the theoretical account of the Greek pantheon of gods and demi-gods as fallen angels and their humanborn offspring.

Research into the actual Hebrew phrase used describing God's decision to save Noah and his family reveals an emphasis on Noah's genealogical purity - rather than his moral purity.

The flood was sent by God to wipe away the corrupted genetic makeup of human beings (corrupted with angelic bloodlines), and pave the way for man to continue to progress forward in time physically unmarred by Satan's schemes - though the moral desecration would not be redeemed until Christ came to pay for it.

Greek Mythology (and it's off-shoot of the Roman Pantheon) has it's roots firmly rooted in the Judeo-Christian account of the Nephilim in Genesis 6. The book of Genesis - as well as the book of Job, were passed around as oral tradition LONG before they were written, though even the dates they were written far preclude any written accounts of Greek Mythology.

The simple fact that Greek Mythology can fit within the framework of a literal account of Genesis 6 is only further evidence of the Bible's authenticity and credibility. The authority of God's Word and Will shall never ultimately be undone by the hands of men, because men live underneath It's Truth. I am confident that all lies and deceits conjured up by Satan and his cohorts are all twisted adaptations of God's Truth, because only God can create anything. Mankind, the Angels, and the rest of Creation can only manipulate, reorder, and recombine things that God has already created beforehand; and that just adds to the pile of evidence that all things belong to God now and forever anyways.

Mankind is currently stirred up under such a thick, ecapsulating dark cloud of lies and deceits crafted over thousands of years with such complexity that any hope of finding real Truth without bounding straight towards it's source (God), that self-revelation is impossible. That is precisely WHY Christ came: To proclaim the Truth. "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life, no one proceeds to the Father - except by Me" - Jesus Christ of Nazareth.


Unknown 5 years ago

Ares God of war, bloodlust, violence, manly courage, and civil order. ALL HAIL ARES!!!!

Athena Goddess of wisdom, warfare, strategy, heroic endeavour, handicrafts and reason. ALL HAIL ATHENA!!!


bryan 5 years ago

the one thing that christians can not do is get their heads out of their asses far enough or long enough to see a different p.o.v. they have all been BRAINWASHED most of their lives.why do you think they start when you are so young, so by the time you are an adult you believe without question that what they are saying is true & don't even want to listen to your opinion ( cuz you are wrong, PERIOD )ever since man has understood the concept of death he has been trying to beat it, what better way than to create a being that will reward you with eternal life , if you can follow the rules.( which no one has been able to do as of yet )


Richard 5 years ago

Is it any wonder why the world is in such tribulation and chaos? Religion and the belief that my belief is right over yours will be the death of us all. Relax!


ROX 5 years ago

does anyone els find it strange that so many people belived in the greek gods for thousands of years, then Christianity came about..... years later nobody belives in the greek gods but now people belive in christianity. SO... its been ruffly 2011 years of christianity belief... what's to say chritianity doesn't get replaced just as the ancient greek belief and someone sits down and writes a story about how similar they are 2500 years latter...hmmm.


Paul 5 years ago

Becca, Christianity began in 33 AD with the resurrection of Jesus from the dead it is not true that the Emperor Constantine began the Christian faith in 320 AD. All he did was make Christianity a legal state religion, up to that time it was outlawed and thousands of Christians were murdered by the Roman Empire. The attempted to destroy the Bible at every turn, in 303 AD the Emperor Diocletian ordered the destruction of every Bible in the empire, less than 20 years later, Constantine ordered that 50 Copies of the Bible be made at the states cost.

Rox

Christianity is based not only on the New Testament but on the Old as well. the Difference between Christianity and Judaism is that we believe that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, prophesied in the Old Testament and they do not. Other wise our basic beliefs are very similar.

Christianity is based on historical realities, primarily the person of Jesus of Nazareth. We believe that history teaches that this man was real, that he lived and did good deeds, healing the sick and raising the dead. that He was crucified and rose from the dead and is still alive. That he is the God-man, fully God yet fully man. That his death and resurrection paid for the sins that we have all committed. Because He was the Creator of all things, who became a man, when He died God the Father accepted his death to pay for the sins of all mankind.

These things are not true because we believe them,they are true because they are based in historical facts. The resurrection of Jesus from the dead is the most well attested fact in history, You should look into it. There are many who have doubted the truth of Christianity only to become Christians when the objectively looked at the historical evidence of the resurrection. Not only will Christianity not be removed (not that everything done in the name of Christianity is from God, much of it is not) ( another discussion) the Bible declares that every knee will bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is Lord, to the glory of God the father


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antony 5 years ago

as an ancestral event the descriptions of genesis took place . this was maintained as oral tradition.the succeding generations took the facts and added colour to this accordingly and parallelism came up. it doesn't affect christians or jews


Antony jose 5 years ago

This theory is like saying the glass contains half part water instead of saying o it contains at least half part !

Actually the so called similarity or parallelism is an additional feather in the crown of juda-christian faith.

Please learn the creation-fall and subsequent deviation of mankind-deluge-election of abram........line .what ever similarity you would prove, must have taken place in the segment fall...election of abram. so what? REFER1 COLOSSIANS1:26-28. TELL WHO IS SUPREME AND WHO IS MEDIOCRE.


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kentuckyslone 5 years ago

Really good article but I do have one small comment about the creation story of the Bible. I do not see it as the Earth started in darkness and a void. I believe there is an indeterminable amount of time between verses 1 and 2 of Genesis 1. Just somethign to think about but that would explain the discrepancies between how old science claims the Earth to be and how old it is according to Biblical chronology.


Brea 5 years ago

I'm working on my thesis that will be comparing these two religions. When it comes down to it, there are parallels in all religions; they borrow their stories from each other. All of the hard-core Christians on here that are preaching at everyone and saying they will pray for those who don't believe are really frustrating. Everyone should be able to choose what they believe and don't believe. All of this religious stuff is a lot of stories. Whether or not they have any truth behind them in something that will most likely never be known. Sure, you can believe they are true, but you'll never KNOW if they are true, and it is fine to believe. I also have to correct someone's post earlier about the gods of Greek mythology acting like 3 year olds. Um, what? They weren't jealous of mankind, they simply had issues that reflected poorly on those on the other end, and quite honestly a lot of that animosity had to do with Prometheus giving fire of the humans and tricking Zeus. The god wanted to both control the human world and be a part of it. Though their actions in the stories written would often be frustration for those people affected by them, they certainly do not act like children, they just have a unique way of going about things. I myself love Greek mythology. But just as with any other religion or religious text out there, I am inclined to believe that they are just stories; a means of entertainment. If you want to believe they are something more, that's fine, but you shouldn't go preaching it and shoving it down other peoples' throats. I am currently Agnostic. I was raised a Catholic and baptized as a baby, but learned to think outside the box over the years and form my own opinions on things, which is the mark of any truly intelligent person. Is there a God? Is there not a God? Or gods for that matter? I honestly don't know, but I would be fine with it either way. And if there is a God, I'm sure he wouldn't be upset with me asking so many questions and being a little confused. And if there isn't, then none of this really matters all that much. As for heaven and hell, I don't know what to really think about where we go after we die, but I do believe in reincarnation. I'm not sure if everyone is reincarnated, maybe just a select few, if they have a purpose to carry out in the life they are about to live. I believe I have had past lives. The reoccurring dreams I had when I was a child point to that; there is honestly no other way to explain it. I had no idea what I was dreaming at the time, but now it is clear and makes sense. I also like the idea of multiple deities controlling or having influence over certain things (like the seasons, the moon, the sun, etc.) In the end though, people are going to believe what they want to believe. However, a key point to take away from all of this talk is that one should never live their life for someone else (divine beings included). They should just live it to live it and enjoy it as much as they can. Because, if there is a God, in the end I think that's what he would want, as any parent would: for His children to be happy.


Lesley Anne Kinney 5 years ago

You can't use the Bible to prove the Bible is true, LOL


LizzyJ 5 years ago

Great Article and very good points made by made commenters. While I believe in many things I also see similarities between the different religions. I've noticed these similarities since I was in middle school and writing my confirmation paper on how greek mythology was influenced by Old testament stories got me in a lot of trouble. If any one is wanting proof of how stories and history can change depending on the are try reading fairy tales. The variations on Cinderella alone would amaze you. But on the point of is there there a God and is the bible true, yes to a point, unfortunately we as Christians tend to forget that when the Bible was "officially" created there where a bunch of Roman men sitting around debating what books to put in it. Also add in the many translations and rewritings it's had makes me somewhat cautious of taking it word for word. Think about the idea that the King James Version was partially rewritten so King James could divorce his wife. Yes the Bible is a piece of history that relates to our religion but like any history book it can be worded to make the reader understand more of what the writer is telling us. God wants us to have the bible, he gave humans the right to mess it up.


No Names Please 5 years ago

The ungrammatical, poorly spelled, name-calling posts here really concern me. Religious differences have been at the heart of so many violent conflicts throughout history. It seems to me that it's time we all started to use the brains that God gave us for a bit of critical thinking. I do believe in a divine and loving Creator, but I really cannot swallow the Bible as the Word of God to be taken absolutely literally. Given all the inconsistencies and stylistic differences found in the different books of the Bible as we know it today, I have come to believe that it was written by many people who may have believed themselves to be passing on God's holy word, but were, in fact only inspired by their own thoughts and feelings about how people should behave.


David 5 years ago

Yes.........It Alllll blends in. That's no reason not to BELIEVE...All these people come from the same place of course they stories will have similarities. Because in some form, others more or less beautified THEY ALL ARE TRUE......follow me here....Noah had 3 sons SHEM, HAM, & JAPHATH..civilization came out of these guys. Then Jacob and Esau..There's your Hebrew and Greeks..of course they have the same stories....lets not look at the differences or disbeliefs...but the TRUTH..for example MT. ZION, or Olympus (whatever you wanna call it) Is in Saudi Arabia, and called Jebel al Lawz...TBN won't do special on it..The maps in the Bible are obviosly wrong...SOMEONES HIDING SOMETHING...DISTRACTING YOU, US..CLOAK AND DAGGER...SOMEONE DOESN'T WANT YOU TO SEEEE...know ye not satan has decieved the whole world ...even the very elect...ALL GREEK ROMAN HEBREW SUMARIAN accounts are in AGREEMENT...& when two are more are in agreement......


David 5 years ago

Ohh yeah...and HE is supposed to return on Mt. Zion...


David 5 years ago

Story of Babel also explains the different stories.


Zac C. 5 years ago

This is to LizzyJ

The bible is true and unaltered. They have original manuscripts of it in Israel. There are more than 14,000 existing Old Testament manuscripts and fragments copied throughout the Middle East, Mediterranean and European regions that agree dramatically with each other. Children in Israel are reading it in English with the KJV and Hebrew with the original version and saying that it says the exact same thing. The bible is completely true and completely orignal even with current translations.


Antony jose 5 years ago

kudos,DAVID for your rational comment . i have already proposed the same theory.borrowing is not the only explanation for semblances.more possible, of course definite and easily digestible to even infants is adaptation of a common origininal event. tews are not intellectually so sluggish to borrow others story.


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PoeticRheia 5 years ago from Denver colorado

I find it really interesting =],thank you for the post.


BOBBY 5 years ago

The greeks believed in greek gods because they needed something to explain lightning or hurricanes etc. But now there's science which explains most of the things the greeks believed like lightning and hurricanes etc.(No offence intended).


go 5 years ago

good work


Xylo 5 years ago

Heyy i do belive in the greek gods this is called Hellenic Neopagainsm so i find this aritcal very good and i do belive the last point as lots of religions that were around at the same time did have a sillalar storys to explane the same thing people may find greek mythology a bit extreme because it is a word of mouth religion/way of life and some stories have been rewrited or worded to serve purpuses like herkulies by walt disney so this can explane some of the wilder stories by the greeks also if one person saw one thing it could have been edited by other religions to servea purpuse and the insperation for satan could have been Silenus a god in ancient greece. Very good work :)


jenny 5 years ago

geat jod


Val 5 years ago

What in the world a fantasy...First of all, it should be taken into account the difference between polytheism and monotheism.


dld 5 years ago

I've been able to map the genealogy for three of my eight great-grandparents back through ancient history. I cannot validate the accuracy of my data ... but I have noticed some interesting patterns that support your argument. If anyone has any scholarly information about what I'm seeing ... I would love to see it.

1. Common places of birth and death. A couple of places where many ancient ancestors were born and died include: 1) Asgard, Norway, 2) Ghowr, Afghanistan, 3) Yakutia, Russia, and 4) Marmara, Balikesir, Turkey. I've also seen Somme, France, many times as a place of death.

2. The Cainan connection. In mythology, here is the bloodline of Cainan (generally)

Mideavil Knights < Scandinavian Kings < Magi of Troy < Odin < King Yngvi of Turkey < Cainan < Thor < Zeus < Khronos

and according to Luke, Cainan is the 14th generation in the genealogy of Jesus Christ.


anonymous 5 years ago

mr. fed up,

could I please have your e-mail. I read your comment and would love to speak with you!

Mine is libralady86@yahoo.com


J3SS13 5 years ago

If anyone wants to be intellectually honest I would suggest studying what actual scholars say about this matter. I am in the process of researching this matter and this is what I have found so far. This is a summary for those who are too lazy to look it up but I really encourage you to research it yourself:

In the simplest form, scholars agree that there are too many factors that cause there to be differences between biblical accounts and mythological tales to the point that there is no good reasons for believing the bible took ideas from myths. These factors are cultural Judaism, historical evidences (including archeology), philosophical implications, the myths being geographically separated and transformed with time due to the culture of the greeks etc.

Christianity gains its sources from Judaism.

Judaism was founded before any Greek religion(s) circa 1800 BCE starting with Abraham. (the actual date you can see for yourself). Also take note the Judaism began as an oral tradition, that is they memorized the things God told them and accurately passed it down through the generations so the religion precedes manuscripts.

The Jewish religion prophesies about the coming messiah, predicting his death and resurrection in detail.

In the New Testament Jesus fulfills every prophesy predicted thousands of years previous about the messiah, without any deviation from the jewish scriptures and with no reference to any greek myths.

The Jewish religion made it a complete necessity to be set apart from other religions not wanting to mix with the "unclean."

The Jewish religion claims only one God (a triune God having three who's but as one what) and despises polytheism.

Asklepios aka Aesculapius was often depicted as a snake, which in the bible is a symbol of satan, not to be glorified. In comparison to Jesus, their methods of healing were different, along with several other differences in their lives.

The followers Asklepois in the city of Pregamos was rebuked by the apostle John.

This is what I have found so far, I am still in the process of studying this so there is more to be found on the subject matter.


Shamed 5 years ago

I tried reading everyones comments I really did but i was getting frustrated!

I can't help but think a lot of people missed the point.

From my perception it was not exactly trying to put the bible to sleep but merely explain the simmilarities between 2 religions and it pisses me off to think christians can be so closed minded about other religions.

If you look under the surface of all religions you will find many similarities in all types of religions.

I am anglican but i went to a catholic school and was constantly given detention when questioning the similarities between all faiths and was told we only had to study "inferior reliogions" so we could understand the truth,and yet I'm still unsure of how that works out.

I am christian and proud to be as i have my beliefs but i am also interested in everyone elses beliefs and i respect that, I don't run aroud forcing my religion on other people and i don't prey for their souls because i think they said something wrong.

Also a lot of people in my year when i first started in year 7 at a catholic school didn't know what a christian was so it doesn't surprise me that a lot of christians can't read something without thinking someones out to dis them. Sorry but pull your head out of your arse guys.

I found this to be an amazing read and didn't mean to bring my personal thoughts into it but I couldn't continue to read so many negative comments from a religious group that should be more accepting!

Cheers mate.

Oh I didn't read all the posts so I'm unsure if anyone has considered the fact that geeks may have worshipped many gods but they still had a chief god which can kinda be compared to preying with/to saints for help and guidance. In one sense its completely different but in another the same.


KOLKI 5 years ago

Verona,

Thanks for the enlightenment for the religious world at this time of divisions and competitions. The comparisons are very well articulated but you missed one major point that the Christian Son of God sitting in the right hand of God after Resurrection is very well the picture of Zeus as that God. The flood is also mentioned in Indian Myth where Monu was saved riding a Giant Fish and getting shelter in the Himalaya whose formation is like an arc, the crescent moon.

Most Christians and Biblical scholars don't address the Alexandrian invasion of Canaan - related wars, annihilations and victory feasts before moving to Babylon and Egypt and thereby writing their own history modifying Old Testament! Thus it is obvious that most modern Jews are the non-Semite Macedonian stocks and not the Semite Ancient ascetic Hebrews! Ancient Hebrew didn’t have letter “J”, so Jews, Jesus, Jacob, John all are imported names in the land of Canaan.

The new Testament was written by the Kings to satisfy their aim of taking over the world with evangelism first for perpetual dominations citing adjusted prophecies and making the scriptures word of God (King of Kings). Alexander started the new world order which is Hellenization of the world. Caesar expanded it including Roman Empire, European Wars, World Wars and Hitler helped in Hellenizing other European and Russian Empires; Bush-Blair team expanded it to the middle east and Africa, and war-on-terror is expanding it to the entire world. No wonder the 2nd coming of Christ in Revelation resembles more like violent Alexander, Caesar, Hitler, Bush-Blair rather than loving Yeshua of Nazareth!

Once again, thanks for the information and best regards!

Deepak Sarkar (Writes & Campaigns as Kolki)

www.kolki.com


miloolim 5 years ago

Where is written, either in the books or the hearts of men - that it is possible for a lower thing to reveal understanding of higher thing? The higher can gain insight from the lower; yet the lower can not reveal enlightened truth for the higher...not in faith, nor math nor biology...nor creation. For King Solomon can look onto an ant and gain wisdom in part...however Solomon the King woud never bow to the ant an ask "Why am I here and what is of God?" The wise will first submit that our questions of natural intellect aiming to explain creation..are like us ants aasking the King to consider our understaind of His Kingdom. Be wise with me and in all things true - be undivided. For where is it written in the heart or books or minds of men that you can grow the one truth through division. As you will not find it in the natural truth of mathematics, surely you will not find it in the Godly wisdom of His doing. For in any fraction even - the top number - is what numerates the call..yet it is the bottom number that divides what is brought together in mass. What good is the denominator that divides the understandinf of the true God? Where did God call for those who are numbered in Christ to be denominated and divided into denomination? Why are we fractioned - yet worried about the miscalculations of those who do not beleif? So we not by both math and faith - have the Great reconcilation ; so we are to eliminate all division - and this is wisdom.

None come to the father except through Jesus, yet none truly accept Jesus - least you truly belief. Enjoy your journey friends, for truth is Gold - and Gold becomes clearer and mor refined when put through the fire...whereas the fake gold will combust when tested. Be wise - and seek truth. Be not afraid of fire in discusion or thought, emotinal flames and torching intelligence can only refine the Golden faith and call of our Lord.


Arizona Mildman 4 years ago

Some people agree and will shake their heads to lament and bemoan the fact that so much of their cultural beliefs are just mythology. If you research the characters in the old testament, you will find the same names in Babylonian stories in Greek and Roman mythology. Men couldn't read or write in the beginning. Their stories were orally transmitted (passed by word of mouth). We know what happens when we spread a rumor. It starts out that some guy disrespected his wife by forgetting her birthday and by the time you hear it a week later, he is being accused of cheating on her, asking for a divorce, having beat her, etc and who ever is telling the story is ending the whole fictional account with the statement, "I know this actually happened because "they" told Joe and he told me." Imagine that rumor was passed on for another 1400 years. Mythology, which is stories invented to substitute for proof or knowledge of science or nature, is the basis for any writing dating back over a thousand years. A couple hundred years ago, and up until about thirty years ago there were people in places like Iceland and in some European countries that still believed in Elves that do mischief and Trolls that wander the streets at night. Imagine what governments, much less the churches, can get away with telling those people who will believe in almost anything they can't see or need proof of. During the crusades, the Church of England (The Roman Catholic Church) sent knights out to destroy the writings of other mythological based religions so they could try to "Act" like theirs was real. A lot of people don't realize that the phrase, "God helps those who help themselves..." is not from the bible or Shakespeare. It was the war cry of the Christians during the Crusades. They would yell that as they set about their main objective, to rape (attempting to impregnate all the women of another culture was a sign of conquering that culture), pillage (to strip ruthlessly of money or goods by open violence), and plunder (to rob of goods or valuables by open force)taking or destroying any sign of another culture, where ever possible. Ask yourself why would anyone who is secure in the knowledge of their own beliefs being correct have to resort to violence in order to get others to believe them? The fact that religions have been a big business since before the Crusades, doesn't hold a candle to the whole tithing myth. There are a lot of people who still bring the church ten percent of everything they make, even if it causes them to miss their house payment and be thrown in the street because they believe the church will "save" them from a place mythological torture. When we were all sharecroppers in Europe, there was a law mandated by kings to give on tenth of what you raised to the kingdom, to be shared among the kingdom and of course all the people who lived in the "palace" (the king's house) got the lion's share of what was raised each year. The money was collected at the place of worship that everyone was forced to attend - the church. That was in a time when there were no bills, no income taxes, no house payments, no property taxes, no no rent, no utility bills, no one had to pay for fuel costs, and no one had to drive anywhere outside the kingdom. The church didn't collect the 10 percent to keep for their own use, they were the government, they used it to distribute among everyone who needed it. That is what government was supposed to be about. But the church still wants "THEIR" ten percent of what you make. They spend more money on campaign contributions to politicians who keep them tax free under the IRS legal rule IRS 501c3 (http://www.irs.gov/charities/charitable/article/0,... for "NON PROFIT" organizations, while being the biggest profit making organizations on earth. And good little church goers blindly give the church their money in order to be told that they are going to be "Saved" from a mythological punishment that never existed and then during all this, the churches openly endorse candidates and political parties, which if they were reported for doing so, would be stripped of their non-profit statuses and be forced to operate as a profit making business. No one reports these people for fear of being in disfavor with a religion who brings so much political and social pressure on anyone the police forces, government officials, and especially the news media is afraid to contradict them.

The reason the conservatives in the Republican Party have been taking over by mythology is that they are mostly made up of religious people who already believe in mythology, so needing evidence and facts is not required, "...Just tell me that God inspired you to say it, and I will believe it." That is why we can't have a president in the United States that doesn't say he is Christian. After all, he inspired the whole bible, right? True believer Christians are so indoctrinated that they were taught as a child that as long as they read what is in their book, then they already have ALL THE ANSWERS THEY WILL EVER NEED. Those of us who have gone to college and know better, don't buy into that, so the conservative politicians discourage education that might dispel their mythology as they don't want a nation of intelligent, well educated people that thinks for themselves. Just like the people who say that global climate change is mythology and not man made if it does exist are LYING, the reason that mythology is being spread has to do with the Koch Brothers in New York. The family business was started by Fred C. Koch, who developed a new cracking method for the refinement of heavy oil into gasoline. These two bought the rest of their family out and now own the patent on the process used to refine oil into gasoline. They get a royalty for every gallon of gas produced on earth. To say that they have an agenda to protect in case the United States completely switched to alternative energy is an gross understatement. They use the Republican party with the help of "bought and paid for" politicians who spout things about tax cuts with profit as their prime motive, through their own lobbyists who grease the palms of everyone in Washington, D.C. who will listen to them. And they hide behind the guise of being a "Christian" the same way George W. Bush did.


miloolim 4 years ago

God is real, Jesus lived, died and rose again. All of the rest of the intelligible tug-of-war designed to challenge the impact of human reasoning and consequently lay fault is wasteful.

Believe in God - be wiser than the limitations of science and atheist agenda(s)...both of which prove nothing.


philuk 4 years ago

For those who don't know the origin of the Christian, Islam and Judaism beliefs and their modern day holy books is the Torah but it wasn't written until 900bce for the first book the next was in 800bce and then 600bce but it wasn't fully composed until 450bce this means ancient Greek mythology is far older than that of any of the Abrahamic faiths, people have to realise that all Christians beliefs have roots in other belief systems meaning Christianity doesnt really hold any wisdom, its just continuing the morals and beliefs of other cultures. greece began as a people in about 1100bce but they didnt have an impact until 900bce.


raven 4 years ago

I AGREE WITH MILOOLIM.


Talos 4 years ago

for people into this kind of thing should not forget about the Hittites who have many similar stories to the Greek myths and you will find scholars that believe that they were a very big influence on the early Greeks.


friba 4 years ago

its sick


pegasus84 4 years ago

I was a Jehovah witness as a child and although I believed in Jesus Christ-my heart always yearned and connected to Greek mythology.I truly believe that greek mythology and the Bible are very similar. Some of the seemingly unrealistic creatures featured in revelations are mentioned in Greek mythology. So no one uh my opinion is wrong.We Weren't there when the Bible was written our when giants roamed the earth... Which is also mentioned in the Bible.


Daniel 4 years ago

I am not a scientist. I haven't studied any of this before. I believe in God and his son that died for us. I still enjoyed this article and most of the comments. First of all, I don't want to force Christianity on anyone. I feel that everyone has a right to their own opinion. That is the way God made us. I just need to share MY 'opinion'.

Many bible stories were passed down for generations. The stories were written many years after the events. Being human, the stories would definitely have to 'evolve'. The stories we now know may very well be exaggerated and some of it may also be myth. Maybe the stories were able to stretch so far that it lost its truth and the Bible and Greek Mythology are only two versions of the same truth. At the end of the day, it is all about faith. Faith in what is written, faith in a God we can't see, faith in all that is ineffable. I believe that God doesn't want us to know the truth, not now at least. If He did, what's stopping Him from already showing it to us. I like to think of it as the game of life. I bet my current life and life after death that my God and Jesus Christ is real. Some of you would bet that God isn't real or that Greek Myths are real. The point is that it wouldn't be a bet if we knew the outcome. If I win I get everlasting life with my brothers and sisters in heaven. What do you get if you win?

If we could prove God is real then we aren't choosing him. All God wants is a family. We are made in the image of God. God put that longing for love inside everyone because God also longs for love. Why do you think that some humans fill their lives with drugs, alcohol, sex, money, etc but yet are still unsatisfied? It's to fill the void the can only be filled by God.

If we knew God was real, we can't show him how much we love him by choosing him over the world's beliefs. "there is joy in the presence of the angels of God over one sinner that repents" (Luke 15:10). God longs for you to choose him. I'm sure everyone knows the parable of the prodigal son. God is waiting for you to come home.

As for the question of the existence of God...like I said, FAITH!


DannySP 4 years ago

All who believe in God will agree that God is He who create Angels, Demons, Humans, Animals, this Universe and maybe another Universes.

Under name Christiany there is so much sect, under Islam there is so much sect. "True God" Religion is the religion that consistent from Adam untit today. We should forget the "name" that only devide and confuse us. Let us just say that we are created by God and we will meet Him someday after we are dead and ressurected together. For now, we do our best in the name of our Creator, love others, cares others.

In my opinion, "Christianity" is a "True God" Religion that has been adopted, modified, and "hijacked" to meet roman pagan religion since the time of Paul. Because I believe Yashua is a prophet like Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, Solomon, Etc. God have special "relation" with those guys.

We are deferent in believes, so be it. Just keep searching and digging. No matter what, the truth will come someday.


kaka 4 years ago

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gconeyhiden 4 years ago from Brooklyn, N.Y.C. U.S.A

I do believe mythology stories go back into pre historical times so much research is need to clarify this most interesting subject. The "greek" people pe-date classical greece and the empire of alexander by who knows how many years. The "Jewish" peoples or those who gave birth to their mythology probably have roots in perhaps even older traditions in Egypt and Sumeria. An Egyptian Pharoe believed in one Solar God around 1200 BC. I am not real scholar on this subject I must admit, but Im following the evidence as best I could. The writer who states that many of these myths stories are founded in natures cycles comes closest to home for me in explaining their origins. I do believe the first testament bible is great work of mythology AND history combined. Do not think for one moment as perhaps so people do..that ancient people were stupid and not capable of creating great works of fiction given the time...and they had alot of time. Scientists believe humans were capable of very complex thoughts as far back and even before 20,000 BC. personally I believe the Jews created the One God they write about just as other cultures created their versions and they might have had some contact with each other thru trading networks. This doesnt make the lessons in the bible any less important mind you. humans needed rules as they progressed into civilized states. we still need this rules what we dont need is blind faith and brainwashing and ha hock destruction of competing faiths. I do believe Jesus was a real Jewish man NOT a God but that fact doesnt make his messages any less important. also the Koran doesnt predate the first testament at all in fact it is based on it. Muhammand first prayed towards Jerusalem not Mecca and he sought Jewish approval of being their prophet I do believe. at any rate the Jews were considered by him to be worshipping the same one God. To me the biblical idea of God is based on the need of order and rules in the human mind in a word filled w chaos and the creation story reminds me of how I used to set up an aquarium. Its childish in its details. women are the cause of all the trouble. women were made out of Adams rib almost as an afterthought. science now tells us the female human form gives rise to the male form so it looks like that detail is backwards. there are many such inconsistences in the bible. but may i just say i do believe the earth is a sacred place wether or not God exists and we should act accordingly.


Ella 4 years ago

Its to long

but fun!!!!!!!!


Rei 4 years ago

The author is skillfully stupid.


Thelordismyshepard 4 years ago

I am a SDA christian who believes strongly in the lord Jesus Christ.

I do not understand how people can believe mythology when it is a myth (fake, not true).

Let me put it this way, does anybody know actually what the statue of liberty is saying? Answer: The Statue of Liberty is a Brotherhood symbol which says 'We control this country and we are telling you so, but you are too stupid to see it!'

Note: what does the statue of liberty wear? hmmm isn't it similar to Grecian clothing ... hold on IT IS a Grecian clothing called Peplos.

Now i'm not saying that the statue of liberty was a Grecian god cause it wasn't she was a Babylonian goddess. but the question i want to know is Why is a Babylonian Goddess dressed in a Grecian robe?

Anyway the point hat i'm trying to make here is mythology is fake and a lie they have told you 'but you are to stupid to see it' IT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOUR EYES. I wold rather follow the truth than a lie. Mythology is an intake of lies and the Grecian's have told you that. WOULD YOU RATHER FOLLOW A LIE THAN THE TRUTH.

God bless you all.


Jebus 4 years ago

Actually, the term "myth" refers to a traditional story, and its often one which is regarded as a sacred explanation on how the world and its inhabitants came to be. In ancient Greek, muthos, from which the English word "myth" comes from, actually meant "story, narrative." By the time of Christianity, muthos had started to take on implications of "fable, fiction, lie". Early Christians used the word in this manner to make their stories seem more sacred.


Burwhyn 4 years ago

Why don't these Christians take the blinkers out of there eyes or are they so brainwahed that all they have to say is that it isn't true how the heck do they know, they aren't there, and by the looks of it they haven't got a brain, to ask questions, We do and we know what are Gods and Goddessess are, do they know what there ""God"" is?


Burwhyn 4 years ago

Apologies I meant Their "God" Not there "God"


Burwhyn 4 years ago

These "Christians" won't stop trying to force there Religion down everyone's throat, Since Christianity came in, Things have gotten a lot worse, So do us a favour and take a long hard look at Ancient Hitory, then talk I don't mean a quick look, I mean study it in depth, read everything you can, and not just 'A' Badly written History Book known as the Bible. Which has been changed who know how many times, and how many books have been replaced, Also "Satan" is not of pagan making it is a Christian concept, we believe in the dark side but we didn't name it like they did, They took a name Lucifier who was the lord of light, read the book Fire and Ice, and made him into an evil entity, Is that their way of trying to tell us that we are all evil, I think they should look at themselves and their past.


kwethington1 4 years ago

Ms. Veronica Fair makes a valient effort to compare and contrast the largest monothestic religion with the Myths of Greek lore. Faulkner would have admired her ambition. This subject is far to deep and complicated to be attempted an explanation in a couple of pages. It is better performed by a team of doctorate candidates of historians and theologians writing a team effort doctoral thesis, or done from a view less bounded by others opinions, such as one of those religion versus myth books done from a single author's slant that are always on the market.

I applaud her effort, but to do this theme justice and prove her comparisons, her contrasts, and her comflicts, would take much more time and space that she was alloted here. A for effort.

Make this a wake up call to those in the historical/religious community that are stumbling to come to grips with our denied and amnesiatic past that is just starting to poke its head up out of the sand with the rest of the crowd.

kevin


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melyssa 4 years ago

i would just like to point out to people that in her article that you all just read she is not trying to disprove the bible or Greek myths. she is just stating similarities and differences. you are getting way to offended by this and i think you should relax. you have the right to believe anything you want but people are allowed to be curious and look into different religions. verona fair is just trying to provide a nonbiased piece of writing and some of you people are making her sound biased. also she is only comparing 2 religions so there is no reason to bring into other ones that are not part of the writing. in the beginning there was a small group of people with one faith and when people split up because thats what people do they then create there own faith. ie the faiths all come from one place therfore there are going to be similarities.


santhi 4 years ago

I hate christianity,because they forced to change religion, they only read bible and not other religions book. They are saddists.........


KK123 4 years ago

My Question is if the greek gods is a Myth than how are we surre that God and heven isn't a myth


Thelordismyshepard 4 years ago

This answer is for KK123

Who wrote the 10 commandments, the laws. Catholics will say God, Jews will say God and Christianity will say God. Also if you actually read the Bible it says states things that have come to pass and things that are still come to pass. God doesn't need to prove that he is real or not. He doesn't go round telling his people to create images of him worshipping stone something that was man made. Answer this question if you can, God was mentioned in the beginning and has been there from the beginning why hasn't Zeus or Hades or Posidon or any of the other "Grecian gods". Why wasn't they heard of in the Babylonian era or the Medes and Persian era or even the era when the Egyptians ruled.

The Bible has stated many things that have come to pass One of the Characteristics of God is to be able to come out of the timeline and tell what is to come the present and the future can any other "gods" do that.

This answers santhi remark

I could say the same about other religions reading their own books but the Bible.

If people actually read the Bible then they would understand. People may say that they've read the Bible but have they read it with understanding.

Christians do read up on other religious books I do not know about the Christians that you have come across but I have come across many Christians that read other religious books other than the Bible and compare it but they have the sense and knowledge to know which one is the truth. I am a Christian a Seventh-Day adventist Christians and I'm always comparing other religious books to the Bible and have found out that the Bible is accurate. Have you done that? Have you read the Bible and understood it? Have you read up about all the other religions? Because that's what I'm still doing.

For instance take Paul a Christian is the Roman era He grew up in the Jewish teachings and was a very educated man, same goes for Moses he gained the Egyptians knowledge as well as other teachings but they both knew which one was true.

DO YOU?


Thelordismyshepard 4 years ago

Put the Bible against a history book and prove it wrong then, cause you will not be able to. In some cases it corrects history.

The Bible has proven scientist wrong many a time.


alexander 4 years ago

it's fun when a "Christian tries to defend their religion" oh yeah the bible it's so accurate that it's one of the "holy books" with more contradictions and immoralities (an you know what i mean Christian) and simply make no sense; don't matter what you can't disprove others religions as you can't disprove yours. why all shared same things, formula, it could be good (idea) from a different points of view of course there's a few of Hellenic people cause the extreme genocide , destruction of temples and books of the ancient religions that's why cowards and why because they "were fake and evil"?? lol what's the prove of that (my bible says so) so your god is evil too because others holy books says so too, and just be clear if you put a history book against the bible you will find the myths that bible has. so you don't believe in the god of sky (Zeus) but you do believe in Yahweh right? so you don't believe in Dionysus but you believe in Jesus who both of them shared features. oh wait but Pergamon Altar (Wich is believed to worship Zeus) it's mentioned in revelation wich says that's it's Satan throne, so dumb in first place you would have to prove that in fact it's the same "church" as it's says and that there has been carried on "evil acts" and was there where Antipas died so don't try to discredit others religion but prove yours!! as i said the Greek gods seems to be less damage than Christianity.

"in some cases it's correct history" what bible says yeah like what?? Genesis, Exodus?? What more ?? oh wait!!! the Noah's Ark, i think the only history that book has it's that the Christians exists and "more or less" just look at the world and focus on that "religious people"


J-O 4 years ago

This would make sense if christianity didnt stem from judaism. Judaism was record before Ancient greek mythology so the stores were not stolen.


roberto 4 years ago

Interesting stuff. I would like to get in on this. I've been serching for "truth" for 20 years now.....


Whoami 4 years ago

This topic actually has been on my mind for several years. So to keep my comment short, I'll add my 2 cents and let whoever reads this decide or research on their own. The Bible states that the fallen angles came to earth and had sex with women. I'm of the believe that the result of these relations is the birth of men and possibly women who possessed unique qualities ie: Goliath. It would not be a stretch to think that the offspring of the fallen angles performed great acts (not ordained by God) which could be the basis of tales of Hercules and other "demi-gods". Remember, even though there were written languages during this time period; most people were illiterate as education on that level was usually for the wealthy. Most of these tales were spoken and passed from generation to generation.

So much for keeping it short. But if you do explore faith in any form or like to challenge your mind as well as your beliefs, do so. Try not to pass judgement on others. You'll learn more with an open mind...


Christos is playing poker! 4 years ago

Hebrew history starts at 1300 BC,thats why Jewish myths cant predate Greek myths.Moses,an exiled Egyptian suffering from leprosy was the leader of all the exiled people of Egypt,suffering from various diseases.No Abraham exists.Its an imaginary character of Moses.


Ali 4 years ago

While there are many similarities between religious writings, you might consider one major difference. The Christian Bible is the only work to recognize Jesus as the Son of God. It is the only Book that says through repentance and accepting Jesus will you get to Heaven. There is nothing you have to do to get to Heaven, but to accept the free gift of Jesus.


trinity 4 years ago

Bible has similarity to Hindu mythologies too. Hindu mythology talk about three gods and Christianity talks about trinity.

Trinitiy is relatively a new concept in Chritianity. The concept of trinity cannot be seen any where in old testament and so is the theory of father sending son to die for others. This also proves Christianity has changed even its basics and adapted to other mythologies to make it acceptable to surroundings even if that mean compromising even the basics. This could be seen in modern days also where you see gay priests.


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Vonasmodeus 4 years ago

What a load of BS honestly . . .

I've studied psychology and know enough to know that our minds is far greater than we could possibly imagine.

Eg. If we are fed stories told by our parents to be the Truth (Bible, Qua ran, Greek whatever...) no matter how far we may run from it or accept that we reject it, at the end of it all it would always be somewhere in our minds and thus our lives . . . thus all this opinions & comments on this blog incl. myself of course lol

Religion is based on story-telling and it starts targeting human minds at a young tender age when its most vulnerable, knowing that whatever path he/she takes those stories will influence & effect them forever . . .one way or the other.

Simple evidence to prove above - Between ages 15 to 18 people start smoking . . .no matter how much evidence, medical research & proven cases that it causes cancer . . .many people still smoke . . . now really compare this example to the one above in which you start religion from birth . . .

Think About it People . . .


Jahiem 4 years ago

If only we knew how connected we all are; It would be so great and peaceful if we stop from pushing down our own belief down peoples throats. It is very easy to prove that God does or doesnt exits and much more easier to prove that Greek, Roman and Bible teachings are just stories. The fact is, ( i Beleive) our current level of consciousness is not at that level where we can fully understand Creation. All we need is Love and the Golden Rule which I think everyone here can accept "Do unto others what you would have done to you". While we continue to search for the truth through our different mediums, please take with you your Higher-self so it can discern what you hear and read; and what resonates with you, this shall be your own truth. Everyone here as some great points and this only prove that we were raise dfferently, and our freedom of choice allows us to choose any path that is in accordance to our spiritual growth. Please be patient as the truth about our history will soon be revealed. And personally as I wait for that, I am looking in the skies for Star Brothers/Sisters and Cousins. Stay Focus.


se 4 years ago

For a moment, allow the Biblical Ark story to be true since the geology record presents layers and layers of sedimentary rocks that were layed down under water, quickly enough to create billions of fossils. If only 8 humans survived to leave the ark, what stories did they tell afterwards? Noah's son's wives were not righteous, only Noah was worth saving we are told, so what was their faith? How did the ancient pre-flood stories change as they were retold and never written as generations passed? Of course all religions have similar features, all cultures have a flood and creation story since all came from those 8 who told the tales originally. The Bible though is a very detailed and believable account as compared to most other stories that contain far fetched elements as truth was stretched into myth.


i_think_therefore_i_am 4 years ago

Wow... great topic!... It really makes me think, therefore, I am! ;)....and it's good to be!

I cant help but ponder on the similarities. I think as humans, and as far as our belief in the after-life goes, it's natural to. Obviously we are here, obviously we exist, obviously something very, very special is occurring before our very eyes. The truth shall set us free!, what that truth is, is Faith. We will never 'know' the truth here on Earth! come on! this planet is full of deceit! It's everywhere! Obviously there are forces at play that we can not, and are not supposed to be able to comprehend.

Follow your heart, never stop learning, there is always more good than bad.

I am me, a few are strong, as one we are forever.


True 4 years ago


student 4 years ago

Is this true?


student 4 years ago

Is this true?


ThelordIsmyshepard 4 years ago

You people are so simple.

This is exactly what the devil wants people to be arguing over which religious is true and so on and so forth.

To me there is only one GOD and one devil. That is God the Father who created the Heavens and the Earth, God the Son who died on the Cross for us to save our sins - 'For the Wages of sin is DEATH' and God the Holy Spirit our comforter. And the devil is that star that fell from Heaven. 'O Lucifer how you have fallen'

This is exactly what the devil wants, he is occupying your minds with the things that mean nothing. Having you contemplate which religious is true. By the time you find out he will be laughing and praising himself on the excellent job he did to take so many people to the death with him.

What my point is, is that who cares about the similarities. So what that Greek is similar to this religion and that religion. STOP FOCUSING YOUR MINDS ON THE UNNECESSARY THINGS AND START FOCUSING YOUR MINDS ON THE NECESSARY THINGS.

People need to start asking the question WHY? because asking that question will find you the truth and the truth will set you free.

People need to ask the POPE why! cause the Pope will tell you straight.

Hurry cause time flies. It would have run out before you know it.


Galactus Taa1 4 years ago

Fascinating topic. I was directed to this site via another and I'm glad I was. I signed up because I couldn't resist commenting. First off, we are all entitled to our beliefs and opinions, having differences is what makes each of us special. I applaud or differences yet I accept or factual similarities as human beings. However, now it is time for me to blemish "our" collective super-egos that are much greater than the sum of our universal significance.

Fact #1; we are the human race and we are all permanent residents of the third planet from the star called Sol/Sun which is called Earth/Gaea/Gaia.

Fact #2; the earth is a part of sol's solar system collective which in turn is a part of the MilkyWay system, and itself a part of the galactic collective which makes up the "known" universe.

The universe that we "known" is vast and ever expanding. It's so vast that many the stars you see in the sky no longer look the same as it's taken billions of years for that actual light to reach your eyes. Quick example - say a friend of yours took out their iPhone and opened the flashlight app. Then told you I'm going to head down the street and turn that app on for you see. Depending on how far down the street that friend went would determine the time it takes for you to see the light as it came on. The farther away they were the longer it would take for the light to be seen by you. But, this is where it gets fun, for the friend turning on the light their eyes would actual register the light fractions of seconds before you. This is the time/space relation. Now imagine that friend of yours traveling billions upon billions of miles away and you have the time it takes for that light of the app to reach you. I bring this quick example into play to really give us a perspective of just how vast the universe is and just how small we are in comparison. And I say this all to provide us with a contrast for how large our "egos" in relation to our significance to how small we are in relation to the universe. Now, before anyone says that I'm painting us as insignificant I will point out that even the smallest of constructions play large roles in maintaining properly functioning systems i.e.; the many trillion cells that make up your body and how important many of them are to keeping you alive.

Yet this circle shaped system of life is important and we are important in that sense.

But this entire "man" developed system of religion/mythology is by no means the end-all be-all of our existence. Because there are perceivable things (things which we all perceive) that are not supported by neither religion nor by modern science. Things like dreams, things like life and death. Both of those types of things are not easily explained and by convention are the unknown. Where do dreams come from? Why do you dream? Why do you die? Where does your "essence (personality, memories,etc) go? What is the actual "ignition" spark that brings consciousness into embryo?

All these questions challenge the limits of science and are not even addressed in religion/mythology other than by just saying "let there be etc, etc"

Well let's just look at that whole let there be phrase for one moment. I wanted to point out that in the Genesis creation story it actually starts by saying that man was created in "our" image. Uh, who is "our"? Our is a plural like "we" which lends to the association that God is not a single being. Is "our" the Holy Trinity? Well maybe, possibly. And in our "image" doesn't necessarily mean exactly like, it could mean similar as in a great dane is a dog but it's not a poodle. They are similar but they don't look alike. Hmmm...

I brought up dreams, let's discuss that for a moment. How are dream so vivid, and what makes your consciousness wander into some many different scenarios from dream to dream?

I guess it's time I get to my true point. Have any of us ever truly and I mean seriously considered that this entire thing we call existence is nothing more than but one of many existences. Science can't explain it and many scientist aren't ready to embrace it but there does appear to be evidence of a multi-verse. Is that where we get our dreams from? Are our dreams al apart of a enormous shared consciousness with the many other versions of you? Can it be that when we sleep we experience what our other you is experience in waking life at that moment and when your other versions of you sleep they experience your waking life. Hmmm, a massive multi-universal shared consciousness. Interesting possibly and even more interesting if we being a part of the universe are indeed apart of a system. Key word being system.

Each one of us visited this site and this site is part of a system called the internet. Which when broken down to basics is only possible thru numbers arranged into an operation system. Our body is an operation system with automatic operations that happen to maintain the system such as peeing, sleeping, eating etc. to manual systems which we provide the input for in order to elicit the next step i.e., picking your favorite color, to choosing which school to go to and deciding how something affects you in order that you effect those around you ( love, anger, etc). So being that systems are the staple on a universal scope is it possible that existence is a very immensely complex computer system that is analogous to each one of us having different computers that are connected to a greater network? Is every universe really actually a program that was created by this greater "intellect" that oversees all these universal sized programs? I hate to say it but if you do the math it very well possible to prove that at a certain point, sub-atomically, there could be found "pixelization". Also of note is that "if" computer are allowed to so-called evolve at an exponential rate "they" would not only eventually dominate the world but next the galaxy and finally the universe as they expanded their influence over the "system". Did that happen before? Is our universe a result of that computer growing beyond conventional comprehension? Could there once been "one" universe that grew beyond its' constraints and created other universes in its' own "image"?

Ultimately, none of us have the true answers to life and its origins and endings because it's above our pay grade and bigger than we can even grasp. But to say that one religion or any religions or mythologies are the one and true answer is just limiting as our earthly constraints are. We would be better off to keep an open mind and to seek further knowledge as we grow as human beings. The ideas and questions I have presented are nothing more than speculation just as any thing written by man or woman is speculation. Heck, two thousand years from now people could believe my speculations and it becomes a dogma lol. I guess it's best that respect each other and appreciate what time we all have just being alive. Worry about death and the existence of an after life after you're dead. Because that's when it's going to matter, no doubt. :)


Ronnie 3 years ago

Gen 6 explains the Greek god's mythology in all the detail that it deserves, just before Noah's flood took them out: Genesis 6

New International Version (NIV)

Wickedness in the World

6 When human beings began to increase in number on the earth and daughters were born to them, 2 the sons of God saw that the daughters of humans were beautiful, and they married any of them they chose. 3 Then the Lord said, “My Spirit will not contend with[a] humans forever, for they are mortal[b]; their days will be a hundred and twenty years.”

4 The Nephilim were on the earth in those days—and also afterward—when the sons of God went to the daughters of humans and had children by them. They were the heroes of old, men of renown.

5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled. 7 So the Lord said, “I will wipe from the face of the earth the human race I have created—and with them the animals, the birds and the creatures that move along the ground—for I regret that I have made them.” 8 But Noah found favor in the eyes of the Lord.


Nathan 3 years ago

The comments on this page make me lose faith in the human race. ANYONE with a preconceived and unchangeable view of the world is ignorant. The only way to gain knowledge in this life, is to have the ability to realize that what you knew before was incorrect, and what you know now is a little bit more correct.

The written Torah (Old Testament) predates written Hellenic Polytheism. Yes. Mostly, HOWEVER, because anything outside of household (polytheistic) deity worship for the Greeks was not fully recorded other than through oral tradition until Hesiod wrote down in -summary- about a thousand years of Oral tradition in his work "The Theogony", circa 700 B.C. (That work was also said to be divinely inspired, by the way, by the Muses... just saying, keep reading:)

Neither the origin of the Old Testament nor the oral tradition of Hellenic Polytheism predate the other. Judaism was the basis for both Islam and Christianity.

(To use a slightly more correct language, the Tanakh/Torah predates what you understand as the 'Bible' and the Quran... was getting annoyed at the individuals misusing their language before me.)

However, both the faiths of Monotheism of Judaism and Hellenic Polytheism stem from other faith traditions.

Actually, in fact, Judaism was originally a polytheistic religion, having a complementary 'Mother' deity to accompany the one true God. The monotheistic branch of Judaism won in the end, and took over recording the history of their religion, so of course most uneducated people couldn't comprehend this fact. Continuing on...

Somebody had it correct when they stated that both the Jewish and Hellenic faiths came from the civilization of Sumer; whose religion predates all and nullifies All of your fucking arguements. Not saying that either the Jewish or Hellenic faiths are incorrext, however!

A personal ancedote; I personally have Faith in God. However, there's alot missing in the Old Testament, such as the Nephillim, and why did Luscifer not just mate with Eve to create a race of beings superior to Humans, the sons of Adam? Don't come at me with anatomically corrext depictions of Angels, either. You've never seen an Angel that I haven't also seen. I digress. The Hellenic faith, the stories of demi-gods, and ESPECIALLY the greek Hesoid's round-about summary of the five Ages of Man make ALOT of sense. Especially makes sense to anyone approaching religious history (which, is really our only source of ancient history, btw!) from a rational perspective.

When it comes to understanding things that we can't see, precisely calculate, or measure with our hands... Faith and Science begin to have much more in common, by the way.

Facts:

Humans of ancient civilizations were physically superior to us. They had to be in order to survive. Did they live longer? No. Did they have modern medicine or technology? No. Therefore, as survivalists, the average ancient man was physically superior than our average.

They obviously were more intelligent. As far as critical thinking goes. Our scientists cannot fathom building Stonehenge or the Pyramids, let alone a true Tower of Babel or something mentioned in the Old Testament. They did not have technology, or machinery, or modern science. And yet, they could solve problems in ways thatnwe cannot comprehend.

Pretend that you were taken away at birth and placed on an isolated island with others from our society at birth... who the hell on that island is going to be smart enough to INVENT LANGUAGE without even knowing what language is, in a timely manner before everyone kills eachother for food? I couldn't. You couldn't either. Could include a thousand other examples, but that one is good enough, think about it. The average person in ancient civilization was more intelligent than we are, or depending on your definition of that, had atleast a higher ability in critical thinking and problem solving.

Therefore... who is to say that some of those stories weren't absolutely true? Both Biblical and Greek? A 'heroic age' of Man... (as described by Hesoid... and also during the unrecorded history of the reign of the Nephillim)... where some men were revered as demigods, with skills that far surpass our own modern and limited comprehension? Who is to say that real individuals such as Zeus or Hermes or Aphrodite didn't really exist?! Granted, not as gods, and way less dramatic, but far more Athletic and Intelligent than our modern understanding of how we view ourselves as humanity? If you met the real-life person that the story of Odysseus was based on, for example, would you not view him as a *little* more god-like than you or I? How many men did he kill with his bare hands? Haha.

Just saying. Judeo-Christian-Islamic Monotheism and Hellenic Polytheism can both fit in with each other, just fine. Zeus got really pissed off at the start of the Iron Age (as defined by Hesoid... look up his five ages of man, and read about his book!) because of how defiant the men of the Heroic Age were... decided to banish the other gods to Tartarus, and declared himself the All-Mightly Lord. Then began to change, slowly, and eventually allow us to be forgiven through Jesus Christ. Adam and Eve were the first peoples of the Silver or Bronze age, or something.

Honestly, with how well the two styles of faith fit together (polytheism and monotheism)... you can't honestly believe in just one of them without being ignorant, or a bigot - either way, not wanting to accept what I've said, in one way or another, is just blind.

As I said at the beginning... the only way to gain knowledge in this life, is to have the ability to realize that what you knew before was incorrect, and what you know now is a little bit more correct.

Sure, there is one true God... but you can't deny the possibility that he might have had humans rewrite history a little bit later on to cover up the fact that he killed (or banished) off quite a few other divine beings along the way in his rise to being The All-Mighty. It's even kinda funny, thinking about how much the JudeoChristianIslamic writing states that he is the One True God.

Absolutely! The Torah, Bible, and Quran were written after people were visited by God's angels. Absolutely, let's go with that. Who is to say that he only said communicated that to us because he doesn't want to lose his throne? Or perhaps, because it's easier for us to understand and have faith in just Him, and he did that to help us out as a Humanity? or perhaps because it's better for us as a Humanity? (we still kill each other over who's God's name is the one true God though, so His plan kinda mighta not worked out as planned.) :(

Anyway; monotheists? you give yourself a bad name for being bigoted by not recognizing the validity and intelligence of Polytheism.

Why not just say "Sure. The greeks may have been right. But in that case, my God, whichever one He is, killed the weaker ones off, the False ones, to help us out as a Humanity. He is the One True God, and I'm glad that Greek religious history explained to us Monotheists why Polytheism was bad for humanity."


Nathan 3 years ago

^reviewed what I wrote, and, really, I didn't mean a couple things in the manner that I said them.

The end point is... Have Faith in whatever you want, as Long as you don't put down a different Faith from your own. Beleive in the Ctkulu if you want, just don't say that it's a better religion than someine else's. That makes you a Bigot. ...and, well, that's what causes relgious wars.

Guns don't kill people, and neither does Religion.

-Bigots and dumbasses do, though.

---People who hate bigots and dumbasses,

---also get to kill people sometimes, but

---would usually rather pass on going to prison,


Nathan 3 years ago

^SMH

-Misspellings and bad grammar also cause wars. Sorry.


desiree 3 years ago

i think this is awesome and every thing Ive been thinking for awhile... it makes you think that people are so naive and so easy to trust the word of something they really have no idea about. I think it is no that the bible and Greek gods are so intertwined I think that its one in the same. Just beliefs from different time periods. As well as the any other religion for that matter.. Buddhism, Christianity, Greek mythology they all have an hierarchy that is very similar which is very fascinating and intriguing


Juan 3 years ago

Really to speak of Mythology, it seems that we are talking about a fantasy. However, we forget that the Iliad tells of Mycenae, Troy,... and there they are, they were reality. Not only the Bible.


Michael 3 years ago

Zeus, Hercules?....Equals the fallen ones, Nephilim...that the bible speaks of with amazing strength and power. They will be back in the form of UFO's with some amazing technology and what was before will be again as Soloman had mentioned in Ecclesiastes. Just as we see the mixing of DNA as was done in the past...Sphinx... (modern day human ear on mouses back) These are the end times and what was before the flood will be again....just as the wickedness in the days of NOAH...so here we are again....to a greater degree


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Son of Sol 3 years ago from Wv

Here are what I find to be enlightening quotes concerning existence, man-made religion, and censorship from the late Frank Zappa. He was an independent thinker, nondrinker, and definitely not a hoodwinker.

"Well, I believe that those energies and processes exist. I just don't think that they've been adequately described or adequately named yet, because people are too willing to make it all into something that supports a religious theory of one flavor or another. If you start defining these things in nuts-and-bolts scientific terms, people reject it because it's not fun, y'know. It takes some of the romance out of being dead ... because of people's desires to have eternal life and to extend their influence from beyond the grave ..."

"The essence of Christianity is told to us in the Garden of Eden history. The fruit that was forbidden was on the Tree of Knowledge. The subtext is, All the suffering you have is because you wanted to find out what was going on. You could be in the Garden of Eden if you had just kept your f__ing mouth shut and hadn't asked any questions."

"The whole foundation of Christianity is based on the idea that intellectualism is the work of the Devil. Remember the apple on the tree? Okay, it was the Tree of Knowledge. "You eat this apple, you're going to be as smart as God. We can't have that.""

"So, when Adam and Eve were in the Garden of Eden, if you go for all these fairy tales, that "evil" woman convinced the man to eat the apple, but the apple came from the Tree of Knowledge. And the punishment that was then handed down, the woman gets to bleed and the guy's got to go to work, is the result of a man desiring, because his woman suggested that it would be a good idea, that he get all the knowledge that was supposedly the property and domain of God. So, that right away sets up Christianity as an anti-intellectual religion. You never want to be that smart. If you're a woman, it's going to be running down your leg, and if you're a guy, you're going to be in the salt mines for the rest of your life. So, just be a dumb f__k and you'll all go to heaven. That's the subtext of Christianity."

"My best advice to anyone who wants to raise a happy, mentally healthy child is: Keep him or her as far away from a church as you can."

"Children are naïve -- they trust everyone. School is bad enough, but, if you put a child anywhere in the vicinity of a church, you're asking for trouble."

"The establishment of a rating system, voluntary or otherwise, opens the door to an endless parade of moral quality control programs based on things certain Christians do not like. What if the next bunch of Washington wives demands a large yellow "J" on all material written or performed by Jews, in order to save helpless children from exposure to concealed Zionist doctrine?"

"There is no such thing as a dirty word. Nor is there a word so powerful, that it's going to send the listener to the lake of fire upon hearing it."

"There's also no medical proof that if you hear any collection of vowels and consonants, that the hearing of that collection is going to send you to Hell."

"Information doesn't kill you."

"If you wind up with a boring, miserable life because you listened to your mom, your dad, your teacher, your priest or some guy on TV telling you how to do your sh_t, then YOU DESERVE IT."

"I never set out to be weird. It was always the other people who called me weird."

"It has never mattered to me that thirty million people might think I'm wrong. The number of people who thought Hitler was right did not make him right...

Why do you necessarily have to be wrong just because a few million people think you are?"

"The whole Universe is a large joke.

Everything in the Universe are just subdivisions of this joke.

So why take anything too serious."

"So long as somebody gets a laugh out of it, what the f__k?"

....and, the last quote below I include, not because it has anything to do with the above, but because I find it amusing and quite correct.

"People make a lot of fuss about my kids having such supposedly 'strange names', but the fact is that no matter what first names I might have given them, it is the last name that is going to get them in trouble."


Truth Matters 3 years ago

I have also read that all cultures have a flood story. I would like to add that "Christianity" did not invent the biblical flood story. It was found in the Dead Sea Scrolls, texts of the Old Testament, which pre-dated Christianity by about 200 years.


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Richard Zeile 3 years ago from Dearborn, Michigan

Christianity and myth address the same human needs, just as various drugs address the same human body, some in similar ways. Christianity claims to be the true medicine while others may have elements of truth, but will ultimately fail.


stranger 3 years ago

hehe


helene 2 years ago

I will tell you why: The revelations of the bible are 4000 years old and not 2000 years old. The OT is older and the devil knows how to read... There is so much more to the picture but I will just explain that one is real and the other one is counterfeit in order to discredit the bible. Look at the world and get a glimpse of how it really works. Controlled by the roman empire and roman church (prophecized in the bible), under demonic control, lying spirits, all church and religions are false (all told in the bible) and take a look at false doctrine. Compare biblical doctrine to roman, or any other. They all discredit Jesus, the main point. Take a look around. So it does not discredit the bible, Jesus was predicted 2000 years before he was born, everything about him was predicted, even the pharisees did not understand this and yet they fulfilled the prophecies about him being murdered with a spear going into his flesh etc. It is so accurate it could not be coincidence. The other religions however are full of myths, similar, but just to discredit the real truth. From the devil himself, liar and a thief. Take a closer look, it will help.


helene 2 years ago

It needs a lot of looking into though... but religion as you call it is all around us. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_SG3Hg2Q8c


leah 2 years ago

Also heaven = the elesian fields and hell = tarturus, if your bad or if your good, i get why these stories were created perhaps because humans need guidance and disciple.


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Samar 22 months ago

Thanks for your interest! At the top menu, click on Products Page. A sbeaidr menu will appear, click on Free Kid's Bible Activities That should tell you which stories and projects are available that week for free download. Some of the booklets are written at a very beginning level while others are more advanced. I haven't been including a reading level designation as the pictures can moderate them down and the teacher's additional commentary can moderate them up as needed. The Bible survey workbook works for upper elementary and some Jr. High.The Prayerfulliving,com site does post some stories each week for anyone to access. The whole archive is available to members only. They also have a couple dozen lesson plans and support material for pre-readers. I hope that helps, Kim


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CatherineGiordano 12 months ago from Orlando Florida

Very nicely done. It always amazes me that in modern times the myths of the ancient Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Norse are laughed at, but the Judeo-Christian myths are considered--by their believers--to be 100% true. They don't see how their sacred stories are so similar to the stories of other cultures.

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