timelines of prophesy

There are timelines attached to a great many of prophesy that are written in the bible. They must have some importance or these timelines would not have been included. Yet few people give them any consideration at all. As if they have no purpose or importance??

Lets review just a few of those prophesy as stated in the book of Revelation, Rev. 1:19. John is told to "Write the things which thou HAST seen, and the things which ARE, and the things which SHALL BE hereafter. To me, this seems to be saying that these visions which John writes about in the book of Revelation, are of things that John has seen, and are currently being see in the world at that time, and of things yet to happen. Understanding that the visions which John is going to have, are going to be about things in his past, present, and future; is necessary, if we are to make any sense of all of this. Rev 1:19 "... they cried “How long O Lord , holy and true, dost thy not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth” Rev 6:11 … it was said unto them, to wait yet for a “Little season” A Little season would be a specific period of time, whether these people knew at the time how long it was or not.

Some amount of time passes … “And then” in 6:12 the sixth seal was opened ..."And then is a term used quite often during the telling of Johns visions and we should pay close attention to this fact. These words should not be underestimated.

Rev 8:1 And when he opened the seventh seal there was silence in heaven for about the space of half an hour. And then (After the ½ hour) the seven angels were given the seven trumpets …

For the purpose recognizing the chronological order being established, how long of a period of time this ½ hour represents is of little importance. What is important is that we recognize the separation of time between the completion of seal judgments, and the trumpet judgments commencing. The judgments being sent down to the earth with the opening of the seals would have to be a totally different set of events than those being described when the trumpets are sounded. This suggests a different time and a different place, and probably different people.

A timeline is being discussed and laid out before us. One event is described And THEN this will happen and then this will happen, and then it will last for an expressed period of time, AND THEN something else will be described as coming to pass at a specific time and/or lasting for a specific duration of time.

These references of time must have a specific value or they are of no importance, if they were of no importance, they would not have been mentioned in scripture. To devalue the importance of these many references of specific periods of time expressed within prophesy would nulify any importance of the prophesy themselves. Just think about that statement for a moment. If these references of time have no significance, why are they used so often. If we do not know when an event is going to take place, the fact that we know that it will happen becomes irrelevant.

Rev. 8:7 After the half hour has passed, THEN the first angel sounded and then (V. 8) the second sounded , and then the third angel sounded. (V.13) And then; I beheld, I heard an angel flying through heaven saying, “Woe, woe, woe unto the inhabitance of the earth, by reason of the other voices which are yet to sound.

I can not emphasize this enough, that prophesy themselves are crying out to be understood as being a sequential chain of events that will unfold in their proper order. This occurs through out prophesy. This fact can not be denied.

It stands to reason, that there must be some indication of a starting point for these and thens to have begun. I believe that this point in time when the "And Thens" first began being expressed is quite clear, but only if we are open to the possibility. I understand scripture to indicate that immediately upon the arrival of Jesus in heaven, after the crucifixion, he immediately took the book and began opening the seals thereof. But that is a different subject.

And then, when the fifth angel sounds, the bottomless pit was opened and there came out of the smoke, locust upon the earth and unto them was given power to hurt men, and it was commanded them that they hurt only those men that did not have the mark of God on their foreheads, That they should be tormented for five months.

9:12 One woe is PAST and behold there come two more woes more hereafter.

And (then ) the sixth angel sounded … and the sixth angel was told to loose the four angels who had been bound in the river Euphrates, for they had been prepared for to slay men for an hour, a day, month and year. Again a specific timeframe is laid down in which this event is to happen. These angels (whoever they are) will slay men for an hour, a day, month and year.

Now in chapter 10 the storyline suddenly takes an abrupt change of direction and subject matter. It seems to be doing something similar to what we often see happen in the movies. The story reaches a point that it becomes necessary to do a flashback in time in order to recapture pertinent information that had been previously passed over in the telling of the story. Too many details to all be included in the original telling of the story. This recovering of information is necessary in keeping the right perspective while staying within the confines necessary in establishing the timeline that this entire story is really centered upon.

Chapter ten tells of John being given a little book (filled with information) which he consumes. John is told that he is to prophesy AGAIN before many people from many nations and languages and kings. Few people are aware that shortly after John receives these visions, everyone that is imprisoned on the Isle of Patmos was released. After his release, John went back to preaching. The last records known to exist, shows that he lived for at least another fourteen years. There are no other records of John after this time. This particular prophesy described in chapter 10 was fulfilled during this 14 years!

After this vision described in chapter ten, John sees another vision. (C 11) The Lord gives power to his two witnesses that they should prophesy for 1260 days. A very specific period of time. We should not assume that this particular 1260 days begins at the same time as the 1260 days described in the next chapter, in which the woman which gave birth to the man child who is caught up into heaven, And Then she is said to have been carried away into the wilderness where they will feed her there or 1260 days. The fact that these two prophesy last for the same duration does not imply that they begin at the same time.

Now we come to the 13th chapter; The Beast that rises up out of the sea having seven heads and ten horns. This beast has commonly been understood to represent a false religious establishment. It is given 42 months to blaspheme the Lord.

At some time after the woman is carried away into the wilderness, the events described in chapter 13 takes place. At some time after she is carried away into the wilderness, a false religion will rise up out of the sea. Satan is said to give this Beast his power and his seat. This religion forces everyone, both small and great to worship it or suffer dire consequences. It is given power to blaspheme the Lord for 42 months.

“And THEN” we come to chapter 14. “And Then”, at some time after the beast is given the forty two months to blaspheme the Lord; Jesus is seen on the top of Mt Sion along with the 144,000 who were redeemed from among man. This chapter seems to be describing a harvesting of souls. Verse 14:13 states …Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth, that they may rest from their labors and their works do follow them.

This certainly sounds to me that this chapter is describing a resurrection and after this resurrection whenever anyone dies in the Lord, they follow to where Christ has gone.

I will remind you that this article is not intended to discuss  the events being described as much as it is the timeframes in which these events are said to follow. I am attempting to show that these prophesy are self proclaiming to follow a chronological order.

“AND THEN” , after this harvesting, we see the seven angels having the last seven plagues.

And then the first went and poured out his vial upon the earth, and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men that had the mark of the Beast. There are a number of " And THENs” before the sixth angel pours out his vial upon the great river Euphrates, and we see the dragon, the beast and false prophet, each having three unclean spirits coming out of their mouths which go out into the earth to bring the kings of the earth together for that great battle of the Lord.

Let’s review that which John has seen in these visions.

The dragon attempts to destroy the woman which gave birth to the man child. And THEN she is carried away into the wilderness where she is fed for 1260 days. "And then" after some time passes, The Beast rises up out of the sea (Rev 13). Satan gives this beast his seat and his power. About this same time, God gives the beast 42 months to blaspheme the Lord. And THEN some time after this, Satan is bound in the bottomless pit. It is written that when he is released up out of the pit, (20:7 & 8) he then goes out to gather together the kings of the earth to battle. As we see, when the sixth vial is poured out, the Beast and False prophet are still here on earth, which would mean that the period of time that Satan is bound in the bottomless pit IS contained within the forty two months that was given to the beast to blaspheme the Lord.  A thousand years are contained within the forty two months.                    

At this time when the unclean spirits go out to gather together the kings of the earth, The two witnesses depicted in chapter 14 haven't been killed yet.    It would be reasonable to assume that if a thousand years are contained within 42 months of the Best that it would be true that a thousand years would also be contained within the 1260 days that the two witnesses are given to prophesy and have power to shut the heavens that it rain not in the days of their prophesy, and to smite the earth with all plagues as often as they will,      

Once it is established that prophesy is said in scripture to be a chronological out pouring of events, we can then use our powers of analytical deduction in better understanding that which is actually written instead of blindly accepting  any of the multitudes of false interpretations.

I am not arguing the validity of that which is written in the bible.

I am arguing against Interpreting that which is written in such a way as to  adulterate the life out of the original meaning of what is written.

 

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Elijah7 4 years ago from Israel - England - Hong Kong - Hawaii - Paradise

Amen brother - Love the way you have NOT tried to pinpoint anything.

Have a RECENT Testimony to share (only entered into The Journal yesterday - April 27th 2012 - HK Time).

TESTIMONY :

On the way home from Admiralty on Wednesday 25th April around 6.20 PM, studying the Book of Daniel Chapter 8 alighted on Verses 13 & 14 :

† Daniel 8 : 13 - 14 †

"Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that certain saint which spake, How long shall be the vision concerning the daily sacrifice, and the transgression of desolation, to give both the sanctuary and the host to be trodden under foot?"

"And he said unto me, Unto two thousand and three hundred days; then shall the sanctuary be cleansed."

Then tried to think of 2300 years transpiring from the time of the Book of Daniel to a relevant date. Had great difficulty thinking in years and could not decide when the date began for ended – so i Prayed To God for A Sign or Information to Help Translation this - Amen †

Within a few minutes or so, (being on the front left hand seat of the bus) on the Highway to Tuen MuN, i HEARD CLEARLY a man to my right, speaking in a mobile phone call. He looked Chinese, but maybe not. The accent sounded Indian, and NOTHING else of the conversation was heard EXCEPT THIS : “In History 1856”

This was DISTINCT, VERY SIMPLE AND VERY CLEAR, and i ran it though my mind a few times.

Continued studying and thinking about Daniel and history and the abomination desolation, AND A SECOND TIME a mobile phone conversation snippet rang CLEARLY IN MY EARS “History 1856”

No OTHER part of the conversation was audible to me.

Last night, 26th April 2012, I searched out AD 1856 and found this, WHICH FULLY EXPLAINS & REVEALS ONE PIECE OF THIS PUZZLE :

(Note : i have NEVER KNOWN ANYTHING ABOUT THE CRIMEAN WAR, ESPECIALLY THE DATES)

“Nineteenth and twentieth centuries : One of the consequences of the defeat of Russia in the Crimean War (1853-1856) was the opening of the Temple Mount to all visitors, no matter what their religion - a concession that the victorious British demanded. The Ottomans were required to pledge that the Temple Mount would be open daily to all non-Muslims (except on Fridays).”

Now this made perfect sense in the DARK light of “The Abomination that Maketh Desolate” Built from AD 685 – AD 692.

HERE'S THE ABOMINATION THAT MAKETH DESOLATE :

(Right Click and Open In New Tab) :

http://www.Constellation7.org/AbominationOfDesolat...

Today, i did the arithmetic and came to 444 BC, Problem is this was NOT when Daniel wrote his Book 607 BC – 534 BC approx (or 605 BC 535 BC) with Chapter 8 being in 550/553 BC.

So, ran a check on 444 BC AND BEHOLD :

From : http://www.anointed-one.net/daniel.html QUOTE :-

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Daniel 9:21-26 written 580 b.c.

This could very well be the greatest prophecy in the entire Bible. A decent amount of thought must be expended in order to understand the incredible significance. What follows is my interpretation.

This prophecy says three things will occur:

1. A decree will be issued to restore and rebuild Jerusalem.

2. The Messiah will come and be killed.

3. A foreign ruler will come and destroy Jerusalem and the temple.

Here is the explanation of the sevens:

seven sets of seven 7 x 7 = 49

sixty-two sets of seven 62 x 7 = 434

49 + 434 = 483

Once the decree was given to rebuild Jerusalem, there would be 483 years until Messiah was killed.

Here is the breakdown of the prophecy:

1. A decree would be issued to restore and rebuild Jerusalem. This prophecy was written after King Nebuchadnezzar of Babylon (present day Iraq) destroyed Jerusalem in 586 b.c. Daniel had been taken captive to Babylon. About 50 years later, King Cyrus of Persia (present day Iran) conquered Babylon in 538 b.c. After another 70 years, a Persian King came to power named Artaxerxes I. He reigned from 464 b.c. to 425 b.c. He issued a decree well over 100 years after this prophecy was written:

Nehemiah 2 : 1-6 & 11

"And it came to pass in the month Nisan, in the twentieth year of Artaxerxes the king, that wine was before him: and I took up the wine, and gave it unto the king. Now I had not been beforetime sad in his presence. Wherefore the king said unto me, Why is thy countenance sad, seeing thou art not sick? this is nothing else but sorrow of heart. Then I was very sore afraid, And said unto the king, Let the king live for ever: why should not my countenance be sad, when the city, the place of my fathers' sepulchres, lieth waste, and the gates thereof are consumed with fire? Then the king said unto me, For what dost thou make request? So I prayed to the God of heaven. And I said unto the king, If it please the king, and if thy servant have found favour in thy sight, that thou wouldest send me unto Judah, unto the city of my fathers' sepulchres, that I may build it. And the king said unto me, (the queen also sitting by him,) For how long shall thy journey be? and when wilt thou return? So it pleased the king to send me; and I set him a time."

11 "So I came to Jerusalem, and was there three days."

The Encyclopaedia says King Artaxerxes' reign began in 464 b.c.

This decree took place in the twentieth year of his reign which would be 444 b.c. The 483 year period began in 444 b.c.

2. The Messiah will come and be killed. Not only does it tell us the Messiah will come but also that he will be killed. Many Jews do not feel Jesus is the Messiah because he was killed. We are told plainly he will be cut off. Note Isaiah 53:8 where it says the Lord's suffering servant would be cut off from the land of the living.

If 483 years are added to 444 b.c. (-444), the number comes to 39 a.d. The Messiah will be killed in 39 a.d.

However, there is one small problem. Jewish calendars have 360 days in a year (12 months of 30 days). Here is one example in Scripture:

They will trample on Jerusalem for 42 months. I will give power to my two witnesses and they will prophesy for 1,260 days, clothed in sackcloth. Revelation 11:1-3 (42 months x 30 days/month is 1,260 days)

Today, we use a Gregorian calendar to tell time. Gregorian calendars have 365 days in a year.

483 Jewish years need to be converted to Gregorian years:

483 Jewish years x 360 days/year is 173,880 days.

173,880 days divided by 365 days is 476 Gregorian years.

483 Jewish years = 476 Gregorian years

Again, the decree was given in 444 b.c. 476 years from 444 b.c. (-444) is 33 a.d. (there was no year zero)

Using the Gregorian calendar, the Messiah was to be cut off in 33 a.d.

3. A foreign ruler would come and destroy Jerusalem and the temple. In 70 a.d., the people of the ruler to come, the Romans under emperor Titus, destroyed Jersualem and the temple. The Jews have not had a temple since this date some 1942 years ago.

The Messiah had to have come before 70 a.d.

This prophecy is amazing because it accurately predicts the time the Messiah will be killed more than 500 years before it happened. It placed his arrival and death between two future events which have both been solidly documented in history. There is not a total agreement on some of the dates involved in this prophecy. However, what is not debatable is Jerusalem will be rebuilt, the Messiah will come, the Messiah will be killed and then Jerusalem along with the temple will be destroyed.

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Elijah † Testimony CONCLUSION † : "SO 444 BC – AD 1856 IS CONFIRMED FOR DANIEL 8 : 14 AS 2300 YEARS BECAUSE THE GREGORIAN CALENDAR DOMINATES THIS EPOCH, SO NO NEED FOR ANY "days conversion" unlike The Countdown To The Crucificion Of The Lord - AMEN" †

i CELEBRATE WITH THIS MUSIC (Right Click and Open In New Tab) :

http://www.TheSevenThunders.org/C7-Music/Holy-IS-o...


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Jerami 4 years ago from Houston tx Author

OH Yea .... You are almost there!

But think a little bit simpler ....

Check our EZRA 1 and Ezeliel 44:

I only ask that you look at ISIAH 44:28

At least 100 years before the temple was destroyed by the Babylonians in 586 BC, god was telling ISIAH that Cyrus was going to give the command to begin the construction of the city and that the foundations will be laid;Isiah 44:28 and that is exactly where the construction was at the time of Cyrus' death.

Now look at Ezerz 1:1-3

Then in 539 to 538 BC in the first year id Darius, the son of Ahasuerus the Mede, within a year after Oct. 15,539 BC Daniel had this vision; that Gabriel said that in 62 weeks they are going to kill the Messiah!

Approx 568 years later they killed Jesus.

Unless you are hell bent on interpretating the truth away ...; A week equels approx 9.13 to 9.16 of our years.

simple fact! run with it and see where it taskes you!

I spent a decade doing just that.

and the truth brings sadness. and joy in the next gasp for breath. Just check this sikple fact out and see if I am wrong?

This is the secret that religiousity has been keeping from the masses for almost 1644 years.

If 62 weeks equal 568 yeare then exactly 42 months would equal exactly 180 weeks which equals exactly 1644 years. what was gingg on 1644 years ago?


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Elijah7 4 years ago from Israel - England - Hong Kong - Hawaii - Paradise

How do you arrive at 9.13 - 9.16 years = 1 prophetic week ?

What was going on 1644 years ago ?

Glory To JESUS For The Perfect Gospel - Amen

† James 1 : 27 †

"Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world."


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Jerami 4 years ago from Houston tx Author

Daniels vision happened in 538 BC,

9:23 "At the beginning of thy supplications the commandment came forth.

And after 62 weeks the Messiah will be cut off.

There are three dates which historians believe Jesus was killed; 26, or 30, or 33 AD.

62 weeks = 564 years or 568 years 571 years.

If Jesus was killed in 30 AD 62 weeks = 568 years one week = 9.16 of our years.

42 months is 180 weeks =1648 years.

Lets back through time 1648 years from 2012 ariving at 364. When Constantine first established his church the church was divided into seven districts (Heads) and each district has their own pope.

These seven districts was further divided into three regions each region was given a pope presiding over church actavities. Seven heads and 10 crowns.

In 364 AD Pope Liberius argued with the emperor and lost his position of Pope in Rome and was sent into exile. One of the heads (of state) had received a deadly wound that recovered two years later when recalled to Rome and reinstated as Pope in Rome.

The church had become strong enough to cause the emperor to recant his decision. Who can fight the church and win?

This is when the 42 months began (366 AD)

What is the difference if you tell your child that you will buy them a car in 1260 days or if you tell them it will be in 42 months.

42 months would be Approx. and 1260 days is exactly.

So the 42 months is approx fulfilled around 2012.

Not necessarily the end of the world .. just the end of the 42 months for whatever that means

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