Archery Archive: Making the Maciejowskie (part two)

The Maciejowski Bible Bow
The Maciejowski Bible Bow
Portrayal of a Sicilian Saracen Archer
Portrayal of a Sicilian Saracen Archer
Portrayal of a Sicilian Saracen Archer
Portrayal of a Sicilian Saracen Archer
Medieval portrayal of Sicilian Saracen Archer
Medieval portrayal of Sicilian Saracen Archer
Frederick II
Frederick II
Medieval portrayal of Sicilian Saracen Archer
Medieval portrayal of Sicilian Saracen Archer
Musee de l'archerie et du Valois
Musee de l'archerie et du Valois
Klomp at Crepy-en-Valois
Klomp at Crepy-en-Valois
Klomp at Crepy-en-Valois
Klomp at Crepy-en-Valois

By Nils Visser


Part One of this story ended in the conclusion that the Maciejowski Bow devised by Amsterdam bowyer Magén Klomp based on the pictorial evidence in the Maciejowksi Bible had a feasible basis, though the question was raised as to what happened to those bows and that French archery tradition by the time the Hundred Years War started. We pick up the story:

The Saracen mercenaries brought to Normandy by King Richard I of England were an unlikely source for the Maciejowski Bow. The 120 Saracens were too few in number to settle in serious numbers, so it’s unlikely that either their descendents or their bows could be found in France half a century after their first appearance.

I had more luck in tracing the career of King Louis IX. One of the threats this monarch faced during his reign was the tide of the Mongolian horsemen, who managed to defeat Russia, Poland and Hungary in quick succession, but then suddenly withdrew when they were a mere week away from the French border. Unbeknown to the major Western leaders, the withdrawal was the result of internal political strife. Various delegations were sent eastwards, to make contact with the Mongolians. One of the friars sent by Louis, one William of Rubruck, describes an occasion on which the supreme Khan, Möngke Khan, presents another envoy, Theodolus, with a gift for the French king.

Möngke Khan “had a very strong bow made, which two men could hardly draw, and two arrows with heads of silver, full of holes, which whistle like pipes when they are loosed. And he gave the following instructions to the Mongol he was sending with Theodolus: ‘You will go to that French King….and you will present him with these things on my behalf. If he wishes to be at peace with us…. we concede to him the rest of the world westwards; but if he does not wish peace then bring back the bow and arrows to us, telling him that with such bows we shoot far and strike hard.’”[1]

Thus we find that the French King who had commissioned the Maciejowski Bible, with its seemingly odd pictures of composite bows, had been sent a gift of such a composite bow, a gift moreover which was an acknowledgement by an Eastern Emperor of the importance of the King of France. Was this the bow that was a model for the artists who drew the Maciejowski Bible? A bit of medieval PR as it were?

What happened to the bow? According to Rubruck, the envoy, Theodolus made it as far as Nicaea[2], where John III, the Byzantine emperor, exposed Theodolus as an imposter, confiscated all his goods, and had him thrown in prison. In the meantime the Mongol envoy became ill and died.

One might think that would be as far as the bow travelled, but we may suppose that John III might have sent the bow on to Louis, for he was famed for his honesty. According to Rubruck, the Byzantine emperor sent the gold seal which the Mongol envoy carried back to Möngke Khan. Presumably, someone who is honest enough to part from gold that is not his, and who was aware of the diplomatic importance of missions to the East, would have ensured that the bow was sent on to France. If that was the case, it would have arrived there in 1255-56, close enough to the timeframe in which the Maciejowski bible was supposedly commissioned (1245-1255), especially considering the fact that it wasn’t sent on to Italy for the addition of text till the early 1300s. However, we simply don’t know, the bow disappears from the story at this point.

The possibility that I might have discovered the original Maciejowski Bow, sent me scurrying back to Amsterdam, to report my findings to Klomp. I also opted my theory that the Maciejowski Bible might have been intended as a gift for the Mönke Khan, who judged the importance of rulers by the value of the gifts messengers brought, with the added benefit to Louis of educating the Khan about Christianity, he had sent similar religious gifts with a previous mission. Moreover, the battle scenes, would have also formed an implicit warning that France was armed and dangerous, an apt reply to a gift consisting of a very powerful bow with which to shoot far and strike hard.

“I like the idea. And it would certainly place the Maciejowski Bible in context, considering all the detailed blood and gore in the battle scenes. None-the-less, I´m not convinced about the bow,” Klomp said. “The timing doesn´t bother me, the overlap is near enough. But we don´t know what happened to that bow, it’s too much supposition. I´d prefer to see the thing behind glass in a museum somewhere.”

“What also bothers me is the fact that the Maciejowski Bible is so incredibly accurate in everything else,” Klomp continued. “That suggests that if you see more than one composite bow, they were there. And I just can´t imagine these bows being produced on a large scale and in such a short time, on the basis of Möngke Khan´s gift. Composite bows are notoriously difficult to make, especially if you´ve never done so before. This is one of the drawbacks of composite bows. They´re very expensive to make and highly time-consuming vis-à-vis a Longbow.”

“If the Maciejowski was meant as a gift and warning, perhaps the composite bows are in there as a ruse of war, to exaggerate actual French military might.” Pancras opted.

“Mongols who had already proven to be no fools,” Klomp shrugged. “Once again it would subtract from the accuracy of the Maciejowski Bible. If we take that accuracy as a given, then there must have been composite bows in widespread use in France, somewhere between 1255 and 1300.”

“Maybe we´re barking up the wrong tree,” Verwijmeren suggested. “Maybe the answer is much closer to home. The Saracens used composite bows, and Louis certainly knew what it was like to be facing the wrong end of those bows.”

King Louis certainly did, he had led the Seventh Crusade in 1248 and had encountered Saracens archery. But would the inclusion of such bows in the Maciejowski Bible not risk offense to the king? He had, after all, lost the Battle of Al Mansurah and the Battle of Fariskur. During the course of the latter the king’s army was annihilated and he himself was taken prisoner which cost France a large ransom. Louis IX was a public relations-savvy man, it doesn’t stand to reason that he would want to be reminded –or remind others- of a total defeat.

So, as alluring as the crusader’s link seemed, it didn’t appear to bring us closer to an answer. However, there turned out to be another link with Saracen archers, only these Saracens weren’t to be found in the Holy Land, but in Sicily, which was a Saracen domain from 965 to 1061. The latter year saw the advent of the Norman conquest of Sicily, completed by 1091.

The manner in which the Norman Kingdom of Sicily was occupied forms a striking contrast to the manner in which the William the Conqueror was securing his hold on England at the same time. Robert Guiscard, the Norman who had conquered the island, became King Roger I of Sicily, but he wanted a Sicily in which all the diverse segments of the population co-existed peacefully, in other words, he respected the cultural heritage and religions of other ethnical groups, as the Muslim author Ibn al-Athir wrote: “They [the Muslims] were treated kindly, and they were protected, even against the Franks. Because of that, they had great love for king Roger[3] .

This policy of tolerance and equality was continued by Roger’s successors, such as William II of Sicily, as the geographer Ibn Jubair discovered when he stopped at the island in 1184. Ibn Jubair was astounded by the manner in which the Norman rulers treated the Muslim population: “The attitude of the king is really extraordinary. His attitude towards the Muslims is perfect: he gives them employment, he choses his officers among them…..The king has full confidence in the Muslims and relies on them to handle many of his affairs, including the most important ones[4].

In 1198 the Norman rule was formally replaced by the Swabian Hohenstaufen Dynasty, when Queen Constance of Sicily’s reign ended, and her son, Frederick, who was also the son of the Holy Roman Emperor, became Frederick II, Holy Roman Emperor and King of Sicily. However, in reaction to religious uprisings in Sicily, Frederick II expelled all the Muslim inhabitants of Sicily, sending many to live in the town of Lucera on the Italian mainland, so that he could exercise better control over them. By the 1240s they numbered some 20,000 to 60,000 souls and Lucera was often called Lucaera Saracenorum[5].

What is of special interest to us is the military service that the Sicilian Saracens performed for their Norman masters, and later for Frederick II. This is because their specialty was archery, and it gave their masters access to mounted light cavalry armed with composite bows. According to David Nicolle “The Muslim archers of Sicily were among the most effective infantry in 12th-century Europe” armed with a “powerful composite bow[6]. Pictorial evidence of these Sicilian Saracen archers shows the same type of bow which we have seen in the Maciejowski Bible.

According to Giovanni Amatuccio,It is clear that the bow used by the Italian Saracens were composite…. there is sufficient evidence in the Anjou Curia documents of the Thirteenth Century to confirm this. Document charts include arcu de corno (horn bows), which were certainly composite bows. There are some references to arcu de osso (bone bows), which likely means the same type of bow[7]

Where were these bows made? Amatuccio says: “These bows were built by the same workers, the Saracens of the South: the most important example is the so-called ‘Chazen’ or ‘Ghazena’ Lucera, i.e. a workshop for the construction of missile throwing weapons...”[8]

Even though Frederick II had expelled the Saracens from Sicily, the Saracens served in his armed forces, and he learned to trust them. The Saracens fought for Frederick and his son Manfred at Capua in 1229, Montichiari castle in 1236, Corenuova in 1237, Parma in 1248, Guardia dei Lombardi in 1254, San Germano in 1254, and the Marche campaign in 1264. In 1266 the Battle of Benevento was lost by Manfred and power over Sicily and Southern Italy passed to the victor, Prince Charles of Anjou, who would become King Charles I of Sicily. Some of the spoils of war were found in the treasure room of Lucera Castle, including a very large quantity of bows. The contents of this treasure room now belonged to Charles of Anjou, as did control over the Lucera Chazena.

Here comes the Eureka moment: Prince Charles of Anjou, was the son of Louis VIII of France, and the younger brother of none other than Louis IX, King of France.

Charles I of Sicily, continued to use Saracen archers in his armies, they were employed in the Balkans, Tunisia, the War of Vespro and onboard Anjou war ships. However, the numbers of Saracens employed thus started to decrease. It’s possible that Charles I didn’t place full trust in them, moreover, the popularity of the crossbow was steadily increasing. The Saracens continued to use the composite bow, traditional archery was somewhat of a spiritual obligation, the prophet Mohammed had been an archer and had extolled the virtues of archery, which explains the popularity of the craft in a place like Lucera, where, somewhat similar to the situation in Wales and England, archery was something that every man taught his son.

By the turn of the century, Charles II of Naples, decided that the presence of an Islamic community on the Italian mainland was not desirable. In 1300 his army sacked Lucera, killing the defenders, and exiling or selling the survivors into slavery. All mosques and other “alien” influences in Lucera were razed. The factory at Lucera and the expertise found there were lost.

This time, when I showed up to report my new findings, I had Klomp’s full attention. The bow which he had made based on a combination of the pictures in the Maciejowski Bible and his gut feeling, suddenly had a pedigree. It stands to reason that Louis, seeking to arm himself to face a possible Mongolian assault on France, would have appealed to his brother, who controlled an armoury full of composite bows, a production site, the artisans required to make the bows and even the archers to fire them. In answer to the question where the composite bows in the Maciejowski Bible came from, we can now venture with considerable confidence that they were made by Saracen Magistri at the Lucera Chazena in Lucera, near Foggia, Southern Italy.

I decided to mention to Magén the existence of an archery museum in Northern France, the Musée de l’archerie & du Valois, in the small town of Crépy-en-Valois. I didn’t know if anything could be found there, but the Valois was the region of France closely associated with French royalty, traditionally supplying the royal bodyguard with archers, so it seemed worth a visit. Klomp agreed, and that was how I found myself speeding southwards towards the general direction of Paris, in a car with Klomp and two photographers.

The museum is immediately visible on the approach from the direction of Compiegne. The road dips into a small valley and there is a spectacular view of very tall citadel walls, above which a medieval palace (which contains the museum) towers even further up. The palace is a gorgeous building, sturdy, huge and ancient. The museum displays bows throughout human history, from ancient replicas to modern recurves and compounds. The Hundred Years War display was disappointingly small, but compensated by the large collection of Flemish Flatbows and modern bows in the hall devoted to archery as a sport, and the display room with bows from all over the globe.

One of the display cabinets in this latter room contains two bows which captured our immediate attention, unstrung, their shape is remarkably similar to Klomp’s Maciejowski bow. The argument that this bow “didn’t exist” becomes somewhat hollow, when you see it hanging in a display cabinet in a museum.

At this stage the experience of being a regular museum visitor is supplanted by something altogether different. We’re warmly received by the museum’s curator, Mademoiselle Sandra Camino, and suddenly everyone is hard at work. One of us takes technical pictures, another takes detail and mood shots, Magén receives the bows and proceeds to take measurements, Sandra retrieves museum data, and I’ve been allocated the job of jotting down notes.

Magén is handed bows which he receives reverently, after which he scrutinizes them minutely, takes every conceivable measurement, stroking and poking the bows, and even sniffing them. When we’re done, Sandra leads us through a half concealed doorway into a maze of narrow staircases, corridors and rooms, until we arrive in a storage room which we quickly dub Chambre de Trésor: The Treasure Chamber. Scores upon scores of bows are kept on shelves, as are untold well-filled quivers, piles of boxes with arrow-heads, numerous accessories of the archer militias so common in the south of the Netherlands, Belgium and the North of France, and much more besides. Sandra hands Magén bow after bow for examination.

The hours fly by, filled with bamboo, tendons, horn, bone, bridges, siyahs, stingray skin, the aforementioned bark and lacquer, traces of red, black and gold decorations, signs of construction and repair, remnants of glue, hints of the use of files and planes, untold millimeters, centimeters and inches. It’s almost as if we can hear the bowyers of yore speaking to Magén, who is in a world of his own, enthralled by the bows he’s handling, but still providing comment about his observations, sometimes based on the most minute detail which escapes the rest of us. Everything is measured, described and noted.

Every now and then I end up with a bow in my hands. They feel heavy or light, strong and sturdy, or delicate and brittle. What they have in common is that you truly sense you’re holding something very special. How many hands have held these bows? The bowyer, who turned a stave into a bow hundreds of years ago; the trader, who displayed the bow; the archer, who strung the bow to fire it for purposes of war, hunting or sport; the collector who decided the bow was worthy of a place in his collection; the descendent who discovered the bow in the attic; the bargain hunter who brushed the dust off at a flea market; the owner who gave or sold the bow to the museum; the curator who decided where and when to display the bow; the bowyers and historians conducting research; and finally my humble self, who’s lucky enough to share the feeling of the bow with all those many others who held it over the centuries.

When Klomp took the Maciejowski from the bow rack in his workshop not all that long ago, I could have never fathomed the paths that I would subsequently travel, shadowing King Louis IX on crusade, following William of Rubruck to Mongolia, discovering an exemplary model of multi-cultural integration in Sicily, being impressed by the hive of industry at Lucera, then staring in amazement at a familiar shape in a display cabinet and finally holding veritable treasures from the past in a genuine treasure chamber in the depths of a medieval castle.

Klomp is digesting the details and construction of all those bows he handled, and one can almost hear the gears turning in his head. The quest for the Maciejowski is far from over, there are new bows to design and build, more secrets to uncover and more knots to unravel. Until then, may your arrows fly straight and true.


THE END



Further Reading:

The Weapons of Warre: The Armaments of the Mary Rose, Alexzandra Hildred (ed). Published by the Mary Rose Trust, 2010.

The Mongol Mission, Christopher Dawson, published by Sheedd and Ward, 1955

Les empires normands d’Orient, by Pierre Aubé, Published 1985 by Perrin in Paris

Les Arabes dans l'histoire, by Bernard Lewis, Flammarion (1997)

The Normans, by David Nicholle, Osprey Publishing (January 22, 1987)

Saracen Archers in Southern Italy, by Giovanni Amatuccio, De Re Militari (June 2001)


Aspects of the interchange of military technology in the Norman-Swabian South, John Amatucci, Budriesi, Bologna 2009


[1] The Mission of Friar William of Rubruck (The Mongol Mission)

[2] The Mission of Friar William of Rubruck (The Mongol Mission)

[3] Les empires normands d’Orient, by Pierre Aubé, page 168

[4] Les Arabes dans l'histoire, by Bernard Lewis, page 148

[5] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Sicily#cite_note-22

[6] The Normans, by David Nicholle, page 59

[7]Saracen Archers in Southern Italy, by Giovanni Amatuccio

[8] Aspects of the interchange of military technology in the Norman-Swabian South, by Giovanni Amatuccio.



YOUR OPINION

If the Anjou family and the Pope had not insisted on the eradication of Saracen Lucera, it's conceivable that the French King could have had thousands of Saracen Horse Archers at his disposal at the B

  • Had Crecy turned into an archery contest between eastern composite bow and English war bow, then the English war bow would have won the day.
  • Had Crecy turned into an archery contest between eastern composite bow and English war bow, then the Lucera composite bow would have won the day.
  • Had Crecy turned into an archery contest between eastern composite bow and English war bow, then Crecy would have been a very close call.
  • The English would probably have won because the French wouldn't have changed their (flawed) tactics.
  • I'm not very fond of historical what-ifs.
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Richard the Lionheart's Saracen Mercenaries


A reader has requested some clarification with regard to one of the claims made in the article Making the Maciejowski, namely that Richard I of England had made use of Saracen mercenaries in Normandy. Quite possibly this is due to that reader’s familiarity with a number of works, such as Verbruggen’s The Art of Warfare in Western Europe during the Middle Ages which mention this fact without linking it to a source.

However, for Making the Maciejowski, we did manage to locate a source, who in turns bases his observations on a number of primary sources. This source is Professor F.M. Powicke’s essay The Saracen Mercenaries of Richard I., which can be found in THE SCOTTISH HISTORICAL REVIEW.

Powicke mentions a number of sources, allocating generous reference to the input of a number of other researchers into this subject, for the purposes of brevity I will skip these names and focus on the primary sources.

Firstly, there is a passage referring to one hundred and twenty Saracens (Mamluks) from the Holy Land who depart with or for Richard. This appeared in a 14th century manuscript written by one of the continuators of William of Tyre. This particular manuscript contains other references which make it a reliable source. It has been printed “as text D in the edition of the so-called Histoire d'Heracles, published by the Academic des Inscriptions (Recueil des Historiens des Croisades^ Historiens Occidentaux^ vol. ii. (1859) P- J 9^"

Where and when these mercenaries might have gone to, is revealed by the Norman Exchequer roll. The roll of 1195 contains the following entries (ed. Stapleton, i. 221):

In liberationibus Saracenorum morantium apud Domfront per preceptum Regis, a die Lune proxima post festum Sancti Michaelis usque de die lune post festum Sancti Egidii, c. li. ix. li. vj. so. per breve Regis. . . . Gibelino Saresceno in solta pertae equi sui 1. so. per idem breve.

Two other entries on this page refer to the Saracens. Again, on the roll for the year 1198 (ii. 301):

Soubresaillant et Saracenis suis c. li. xxxv. li. de liberatione sua per breve Regis.



Powicke adds that some have put forth the argument that the reference to Saracens on these rolls were actually references to Welsh mercenaries. However, tracing some of the names that appear back to their origin we end up with names like Bait-Jibrint, the name referring to an inhabitant of Jibrint.

As a further secondary supporting source Professor Powicke refers to Beha-ed-din’s narrative which demonstrates that Richard did enter meaningful communication with Saracen prisoners and ambassadors after the relief of Jaffa in 1192 (Palestine Pilgrims' Text Society's translation of Beha-ed-din, p. 371 seqq.) Moreover, references to the friendship between Richard and Saladin’s brother El-Adel Saphadin are common.

Powicke also refers to the persistent stories that Richard had Saracen Assassins in his armies, mentioning that the 120 Mamluk mercenaries may well have provided the source for such tales. We can presume that the language and culture barriers could have meant that the Mamluk contingent in Richard’s army kept to themselves and can almost hear the subsequent campfire gossip about these mysterious warriors.

These revelations would also place into context the appearance of names such as Mahumet, Bekmet and Peter the Saracen in various rolls from Angevin England, discussed in a number of places such as Who was ‘Mahumet’? Arabs in Angevin England by John S. Moore of the University of Bristol.

I hope this clarifies matters somewhat.


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bob the warbow 5 years ago

Well Nils, the hubs get better and better. This is absolutely sensational, especially the picture with the `old' and `new' Maciejowski bow in the Museum. Moreover praise to your storycrafting and narrative abilities. I like the format of your personal quest. Captivated by the enigma of the odd and seemingly `out of place' bow in the Maciejowski picture of the archer in the tower, and embarking on a personal quest in pursuit of this `holy grail'. Not only the final success of encountering a real maciejowsky in a French museum, but also the dead ends; the leads that are seemingly worthwhile to explore but eventually lead to nothing. Even these are intriguing and worthwhile. Firstly, because that is what happens in real research. More than often all your efforts are in vain, and prove a waste of time and energy. But that is not exactly true. You gain knowledge along the way. This story of Nils Visser shows that. Contrary to popular belief that for the Medieval Western European the world wasn't bigger than his own backyard, these people knew a lot more about the world than we give them credit for, and were eager to gain knowledge whenever and whereever they could.


Marcel 5 years ago

again a beautiful piece!


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Nils Visser 5 years ago from The Low Countries Author

Thanks Marcel, Bob,you summarize my aims and purposes really well, and especially the rewards, I'm learning things at an amazing speed and also meeting a large variety of very interesting people. Moreover, in the course of research for this piece, I've found lots of evidence that there was much more knowledge, communication and travel on a global scale, in other words, plenty of new fields to explore even further.


bob the warbow 5 years ago

All praise to the author. This is a truly amazing story. really as good as it gets and an exceptional venture.

Super Hub.


Frank of the Spoon 5 years ago

Again, I tip my hat to you. As you know I had some inside information before you published this article, and it's still a gripping read. Thank you for letting us join you on your quest. I look forward to reading more of your work.


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Nils Visser 5 years ago from The Low Countries Author

Hear that? That's my ego inflating to hitherto untested proportions. Cheers!


imar 5 years ago

Ok!

Interesting, i need time to digest this.

In the mean time I'll shoot my (long)bow...

Actually I also need a Maciejowskie bow to do some field research....


bob the warbow 5 years ago

I have heard rumours from a friend of mine that Magen Klomp is going to build a 100 lbs version of his Maciejowski Bow this winter. Perhaps an interesting draw weight for a longbow or warbow archer ?


Frank of the Spoon 5 years ago

Back again, since I'm still processing the article and its significance.

Your research will change the way we think about medieval archery: We all love the longbow, its history and the myths surrounding it. But we definitely know that there were other significant forms of archery practiced in Western Europe as well.

Your Quest is far from over, I’m sure there many more stories to be found and told on this topic. Please keep finding and writing them, I for one will eagerly, nay greedily, keep reading them.

Besides the author, I also stand in awe of Magèn Klomp, his skills and instinct as a bowyer: It must be immensely satisfying to find that the bow you created on the basis of a picture so closely matches the original, not just in shape but down to the choice of material: Who would have believed that bamboo was used for bows in medieval Western Europe?


bob the warbow 5 years ago

Frank, that's an even beefier one to chew on than finding the Maciejowski bow i guess. Be sure to get all the facts right or you'll be massacred by the Medieval Backyard Movement.


Frank of the Spoon 5 years ago

I'm sure the rumor Bob the warbow heard is true. I have seen a 70 pound bow in action, it's proud owner sporting a ridiculously satisfied grin before, during and after using it.

If Klomp doesn’t build one this winter, I’ll happily join the crowd that will gather in the spring to lock him in his workshop until it’s finished. There are quite a few warbow archers salivating at the thought of owning and shooting one of these beauty’s, so my guess is that he may have build more than just the one. And yes Bob, you may get in line behind me ;)


Frank of the Spoon 5 years ago

Dear Bob, I’m afraid you will have to start chewing ;) Reread the bit about the “chambre de trésor” : Nils specifically mentions bamboo. I’m quite aware of the fact that the Medieval Backyard Movement deems combining the words bamboo, medieval and bow to be worse than swearing in church. But the evidence in Crépy-en-Valois speaks for itself, so I’m afraid they will have to join us in chewing bamboo.


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Nils Visser 5 years ago from The Low Countries Author

The bows in the museum had bamboo in them. I avoided bamboo a bit in this particular tale, simply because I have quite a bit to say to the Medieval Backyard Movement about the subject. And I will name my sources rather than refer to mysterious sources who may not be named (no doubt to do with the curse of the Templar Knights or some such something).

By the by, it's true, someone has ordered a 100 pound Maciejowski. Can't wait to see that one.

But that is nothing compared to some of the Manchu composites which exceeded, at times, 200 pounds.


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Nils Visser 5 years ago from The Low Countries Author

Vis-a-vis bamboo. Right now I don't have evidence that the 12th century Lucera bows might have contained bamboo. The passage about the Chambre de Tresor lists a whole host of ingredients found in a whole host of bows. The later 17th century composite models that resembled the Lucera bows did have bamboo components.

So the situation is that I don't have definitive evidence of bamboo in Medieval Europe, and the Medieval Backyard Movement don't have definitive evidence that it wasn't there. However I do think they weaken their position by allowing for native North American woods.

In the course of my research I have run into a literal host of circumstancial evidence, some of it very strong. But as mentioned, that is an entirely new quest, and I'm more likely to write about it than not. For the moment, I'm still chasing clues, so let's avoid hasty conclusions. And if you have any clues, let me jknow.

;-)


Frank of the Spoon 5 years ago

Just say the word, and I will shoulder my quiver, wax my bowstring and together we will hunt down those clues. But before we leave, I will ask Klomp for some bamboo off cuts so we can practice chewing ;)


bob the warbow 5 years ago

From what I read in the hubpages, noticed in the pictures about the stature of Magen Klomp, and my own impression when meeting the man himself, this friendly neighbourhood bowyer DOES bear a striking resemblance to a GIANT PANDA. And they just love Bamboo.


willeke 5 years ago

very nice! I really like your way of storytelling.


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Nils Visser 5 years ago from The Low Countries Author

Thank you Willeke, I'm very pleased to hear that. When I've spent a long time on a story I just don't know what it does anymore. Wisdom then says it's better to let it lie for a few weeks and reread. But I'm way too impatient, and want to share it immediately.


Alexander Friedrich 4 years ago

Hallo,

Very informative article. But i have a question regarding the -Mediaval Portrayals- on the side, could you please give me some more infos on them? From what miniature they are from? the second looks like Petrus de Ebulo, but if you have more specific info, please note them.

Thank you, Alexander Friedrich


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Nils Visser 4 years ago from The Low Countries Author

Yup,liber ad honorem augusti

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