Now that D'Angelo Russell has broken the unwritten code among us men, which is you NEVER snitch on someone (unless the law requires you to of course). Do you think he ruined his career in the nba now that he's broken the unspoken code among us men? For those of you ladies out there that are unfamiliar with the official guy code, it's simple. You NEVER snitch on a dude if he's cheating on his wife and/or girlfriend. Granted, you don't have to condone it, or like it. Hell, you can flat out despise him for doing it, and tell him to go f*** himself for what he's doing, but YOU NEVER SNITCH ON HIM FOR IT. The only thing worse in guy code is really sleeping with your friend's wife or girlfriend.
Moving one though. D'Angelo Russell went to Nick Young's house, where he admitted to sleeping around behind his girlfriend's back. Unknowingly to Young, Russell recorded the entire conversation and uploaded it online. Now it's viral, and it's causing a rift within the Lakers' locker room. My question to you guys are do you think he can come back from this? Can D'Angelo Russell still be a great player in spite of violating the hidden man code? Or do you think he's doomed to failure because nobody will ever want to play with him again. What are your thoughts?
Also if there's any women reading this, then I'd love to hear your thoughts too. Thanks.
Seems like a vindictive thing to do, on the one hand, but it possibly isn't so bad on the other. I'd be curious to hear why he taped it. I think, if he had what he considered to be an honorable reason for his actions, some could forgive and move on. I would say men are going to be less open with their bragging around him.
I think as long as plays great, and works hard, then he can at least get his teammates to respect him as a teammate. Like Ryan Clark said recently on ESPN, the perception that guys all have to be best buddies in the locker room is complete bullshit. Ryan even said that when you're a pro it's all about winning and money. Winning solves everything, so if D'Angelo continues to improve his game, and helps his team win, then he can still have a great career. Granted, nobody on the team may ever want to have beers with him after the game, or want to be his friend outside of basketball, but hey. Michael Jordan wasn't liked by everyone that he played with, so there you go.
Don't know who the guy is, don't really care.
The so-called "Guy code" is for immature frat boys.
I agree that it is immature, and in a perfect world, I personally think everyone would remember that he's only 20 YEARS OLD. How many people make mistakes around that age? Hell, Johnny Manziel has beaten up his ex girlfriend, and even threatened to kill her, yet people defend his sorry piece of s*** a*** by saying crap like, "Oh but he's young. He's only 25 years old. He just needs help. A lot of young men make mistakes around that age." I always laugh at that because I don't give a rat's a** how old you are. By age 12 or younger if you mature fast enough, you should already know the difference between right and wrong. Hitting a woman under any circumstances (unless it's a matter of life or death) is not acceptable behavior.
Yet in accordance to so called hidden bro code, guys in sports locker rooms don't typically care. It's only when you're perceived as a snitch that they start to care, which i find kind of sad to be honest about this situation.
To be honest, I feel ZERO SYMPATHY for Nick Young in all of this because even though he may blame D'Angelo now for his fiance wanting to break up with him, the reality is it's entirely his fault to begin with. If he really loved his fiance, then this never would've happened. He never would've had anything to confess, nor would his engagement be in jeopardy, so he deserves whatever he gets. Granted, it was a punk move for D'Angelo to do what he did, and it shows an obvious sign of immaturity on his part. However, Nick Young has nobody to blame for his girl wanting to leave him other than himself. He can lie through the skin of his teeth all he wants about how he loves her, and Russell ruined things with her and all that. No, he ruined it the day he started to cheat on her. Anyone who says otherwise is crazy.
However, i do feel sorry for D'Angelo in a sense that this is going to follow him throughout his entire nba career. Guys won't trust him anymore, and people will continue to label him as nothing more than a snitch. Hell, free agents in the nba may not even want to go to the Lakers now just because HE'S ON IT, so I do feel sorry for him in that sense because what he did was really nothing more than a stupid mistake that an immature person would make. To quote the jerks that defend Johnny A**hole, he's only 20 freaking years old. He made a mistake. He apologized. he owned up to it. How many of us make mistakes when we're that young? As long as he knows what he did wrong, then that's all that matters.
I save my sympathy for people who are innocent of what they are accused of.
I don't think a sane person would secretly record a private conversation and upload it to YouTube unless it was to get revenge on the subject of the recording. The subject of the recording must have done something bad to the recorder and everyone on the team probably knows the deeper backstory. I don't think the peanut gallery needs to wring their hands over violations of a supposed hidden bro code.
You're right that no sane person would do something like that, but D'Angelo did apologize both privately and publicly to Nick Young, and even explained his side of the story. He said even though he did record their conversation, but he also mentioned that Nick Young was aware of it as well contrary to reports. However what he didn't know was how it got leaked. He said recorded it on his phone for him and Nick to see only, but somehow it got out without his knowledge of it. That's basically his story. However, he did say that regardless of the facts that he's willing to own up to it, and make amends with everyone on the team if he can.
As far as the peanut gallery thing you mentioned, I agree that it's a private matter between them, but the bigger question is whether or not D'Angelo can recover from this because in professional male sports its all about ego and testosterone by that point that trust plays a big issue in team chemistry. If you're teammates don't feel like they can trust you, then how can you succeed in a team sport? I think that's why it's such a big issue. Not to mention, he was supposed to be the franchise player after Kobe retired this year, so how do you build a team around a guy that nobody wants to trust? That's why it's such a big issue.
You get trust in a group by deserving and living up to important commitments (to males and females equally)--not just by demanding it under some bullshit code. Requiring trust ("not telling") without requiring trustworthiness is not a code, its a gang.
what I find most ironic about this is the fact that so many sports fans defend Johnny Manziel for beating up his ex girlfriend and THREATENING TO KILL HER, by saying crap like "Oh but he's only 25. He's young. He just needs help. Stop hating on a young man that clearly made a mistake." Yet when it comes to a childish mistake that D'Angelo Russell made it's like, "Oh my god! he ruined his career! Nobody can ever trust him, or want to play with him again." Sheesh, D'Angelo is like 5 years younger than Manziel, yet I find it ironic that everyone seems to forget that.
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