Is English football talent on its knees?

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   Jefsaidposted 13 years ago

   What changes need to be made to the English game to turn it around?

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      kinnsygposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think it has been blown out of proportion a bit. Jack Wilshire is one of the best young players I've seen for a long time. Adam Johnson us a cut above the wingers England have recently relied upon. Joe Hart is the nest keeper England have had for a long time. And there are others coming through. We must remember that at least four of the regular England squad are described as world class, and I feel it is the England senior set up that has been the real problem.

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   rich_haylesposted 13 years ago

   Where do I start?
   Many points come up when I have this discussion with friends. Is it the coaching of players now and at a young age growing up, the pressure put on the players by the media, the type of football we play?
   If we look at the current successes in football (Barcelona, Spain, Inter Milan) they all have players that play a particular style of football. Barcelona are a joy to watch and the style of play can be attributed to the great Johan Cruyff introducing the Dutch Tika-Taka style of fast paced one touch football. They have technically very gifted players and utilise there skills to perfection. We use slower paced players that lack creative skills limiting our attacking play.

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   Fuller_legendposted 13 years ago

   There is talent out there but Capello needs to look outside the the big clubs once in a while. We (Stoke) have an outstanding young centre half by the name of Ryan Shawcross who's quite rightly been linked with the likes of Real Madrdid, Juventus, and a return too Man Utd, but he was picked for an england squad, never played a part and hasn't been picked since. The fact is Capello has NEVER set foot inside the Britannia stadium which to me is scandalous considering we have at least 2 genuine international candidates. It's not like he can even back up his selections with results is it? I'm sure it's the same at other clubs too.
   
   When i look at the overall talent we have coming through at the minute it actaully looks quite promising to me. Wilshere, Gibbs, Rodwell, Shawcross, Gary Cahill, Sturridge, Adam Johnson, Walcott, Andy Carrol, Jordan Henderson, Hart amongst being amongst them.

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      Jefsaidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      The problem I see is that while these young players are talented, the football they will play is likely to compartmentalise them into functional players (with exception to Gibbs and Wilshere at Arsenal).  These players by and large have also been trained within clubs academies.  The problem is at grass roots level where the training is substandard.

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   republikposted 13 years ago

   There are still quite a good few players out there coming through, Rodwell at Everton will be a fantastic player, and Man Utd have an amazing player called Ravel Morrisson coming through

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      Jefsaidposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I think Rodwell is a good player but not potential World class and I have not seen Ravel Morrison.  I know that besides  wilshire and Gibbs, Arsenal have 3 outstanding youngsters in Benik Afobe, Chucks Aneke, and Jay Emmanuel Thomas who despite some none English sounding names are born and bred on these shores.  A further player Emanuel Frimpong came from Ghana when he was at most 8 years old I believe and qualifies to play for England now at 18-19.  He like Wilshire was in Wenger's plans this term but done his knee ligament in pre-season.  The issue is that how many of these will become truly World class and what is behind them.

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   Jefsaidposted 13 years ago

   Where is the next Gasgoine, Hoddle, Moore, Barnes, Beardsley and Adams.  We do not have any potential Messi, Cantona, Zidane or Henry type players.

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      republikposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      Ravel Morrison! :-)

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   Jefsaidposted 13 years ago

   Where is the potential in our parks and playgrounds?

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      Pedrotoonposted 13 years agoin reply to this

      I understand that point to an extent but when you see players like C.Ronaldo, Essien, Messi etc coming from backgrounds where they played on streets or without shoes you can't blame it on parks.
      
      For me someone like Arsene Wenger needs to be put in charge of the F.A. he is the stand out manager that wants his players to express themselves. I now see Owen Coyle being the only Brittish manager to follow his mould as close as possible.
      
      The problem is British coaches promote tactics that STOP the opposing teams playing football. We need coaches who want to lead their teams into playing the beautiful game. Its always 'right i want you to stick to him, dont give him space' and 'when you get the ball play it safe' or even worse 'pump it long to the no.9'
      
      Its the coaches at all levels that need to have their vision changed, the players are there, the ability is there but when you are taught to play the 'English way' throughout your youth training, you cant be expected to turn into Messi

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   Leachy79posted 13 years ago

   I think there are too many foreign players playing in the Premier League at the moment.  Of course we want to attract the best players, but I'm talking about the mediocre majority of players that are over here playing.  Surely it would be better for our game to have a young Englishman playing rather than some unknown international from Outer Mongolia.  I think there should be a quota of English players in your team in any one game.

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