All I can say is that if the reports on ESPN are true, then it does confirm my beliefs that the Broncos have NEVER believed that Tim Tebow was their "guy" for the future. And having a guy like Peyton Manning, does seem like a logical step to distance themselves from Tebow mania going forward. However, is that fair though? Is it a good move?
What do you guys think? If you were John Elway, and let's just pretend hypothetically that Manning is interested, would you bench or trade Tim Tebow in favor of Peyton Manning? Why? Or why not?
To be honest, I don't think Peyton Manning will want to sign in Denver because ESPN has reported that he struggles in cold weather; which I'm sure even Peyton knows about as well. Therefore, it's doubtful he'll want to play in Denver for those reasons alone, but if he is interested in playing Denver, then the Broncos would be damn fools not to take him, and trade/bench Tim Tebow.
No offense to Tebow, who seems like a nice guy, and has done everything that his team has asked him to do, and then some. However, it's also a business too, as sentimentality means nothing in today's nfl; which we just saw as an example between the cutting Peyton Manning from the Colts. Therefore, if a guy like Peyton Manning can be cut, then Tebow shouldn't be surprised either if he finds his job in jeopardy if the Broncos can get Manning, or if Tebow happens to struggle during next season.
But Steven, it gets cold up in Indianapolis also, and it hasn't affected Peyton before.
Ah yes, but he also played in a DOME in indianapolis also, so that negates your point. plus, as espn pointed out, he has struggled in non dome cold environments before.
If that's the case, I wonder if a non-dome team would be willing to install a dome in order to sign him up.
idk...that sounds kind of expensive; especially since we both know Peyton isn't going to come cheap. Plus, he probably only has like maybe 5 more years of playing life left before his physical attributes decline. therefore, I don't know if any owner would want to go that far out of their way for Peyton Manning. I can see a team signing Reggie Wayne to help lure Peyton to their franchise, but I'm not sure about a new stadium though..
If he were ten years younger and the city was already looking to build a stadium I'd think maybe, but as it is that's pretty unlikely. But maybe they'd rent a tent to put over the field for him.
I think the Tebow Experiment needs to play itself out in Denver. The guy performed far better than anyone expected, somehow shredded my Steelers in the playoffs, and even had Elway smiling by the end of the season.
Plus, Manning played in a decent climate in college, and a dome in the Indy. I'd think the last place he'd want to go would be Denver.
If I were Elway I'd let it ride with Tebow at least for one more season. Get some quick receivers around him, open up the offense, and keep that defense running on all cylinders like last season. But . . . I guess if Manning wanted to come to Denver they'd be dumb to turn him away, wouldn't they? Tebow could still be the guy for the future. Just not the immediate future.
I'll probably get some crap for not understanding the Tebow phenomena. When it comes down to it, I saw Tebow get the go ahead due to pressures from the public and an overall hype surrounding the guy. It's not that Tebow is a terrible quarterback, but seriously, there are much better options. Games are won with strategic precision, not (dare I say it) luck. Having Peyton Manning in Denver would be more than anyone can ask for, and moreover would be pretty stupid to pass up. Just my two cents though
Manning is coming to Arizona. 8 home games and 3 road games indoors plus the best wide receiver in the NFL.
good point. plus, if they can sign reggie wayne as a second option wide receiver, then that would be a very explosive offense to match up with. however, i think the dolphins could be a potential threat to get him though too.
That could work. It would certainly be a better option for Manning than Denver.
If Tebow sat behind Peyton for a year or two, that might really help his development. Mike Silver from Yahoo sports did a nice piece on the teams persuing manning. His first choice was Houston.
I was thinking that too, about Manning helping Tebow's development, but then again I don't know. Obviously Tebow's mental game could only improve alongside Manning. But Manning is a stand-and-throw QB, and Tebow is, well, everything but. Maybe Manning would help him a ton, or maybe Tebow would get so far out of his element he'd be useless.
Manning in Houston is interesting. They already have some nice offensive pieces for him to work with. He'd stay in the same division too. Ouchie for Indy.
I thought Denver had Tebow? Why mess with success? If it ain't broke don't fix it. I'm rooting for Tebow.
What does Peyton want more than anything at this point in his career?
Money? He got over $20 million last season, and didn't play a down.
How many Super Bowl rings does his little brother Eli have? One more than Peyton.
If he goes to Miami, Denver, or Arizona, winning the division and with it a playoff spot is iffy. Who doesn't believe Houston will win its division, with or without Peyton?
Houston was likely one quarterback away from the Super Bowl this past season. Well, there he is.
Houston already has that quarterback, but he was injured halfway through the season. They should be looking to extend Matt Schaub's contract, not seek out a much-older and riskier Peyton Manning. When both are healthy, they each have a mid-60's completion percentage and throw for 4000+ yards a season. At this point in their careers, I would not consider Peyton Manning an upgrade over Matt Schaub.
I don't disagree with anything you said.
But somebody like T. J. Yates is not going to get you to a Super Bowl any time soon, I don't think.
If Houston had both Manning and Schaub, maybe they'd end up with one or the other being healthy enough to play at the end of the season.
I just doubt they have the cap room to carry two star quarterbacks on their roster. Schaub will make nearly $8.5 million this year, and Manning would demand more than that. Either way, they'd have a lot of money riding the bench that could have been spent on quality starters. I think they're better off just risking it with Schaub. He broke his foot when Albert Haynesworth landed on it, so it's not like it's a chronic injury (which Manning's very well could be).
Plus I don't think he likes to play there because he will be in the same division with the Colts.
This is a very interesting situation. I don't see this happening because Denver fan base is in love with Tebow and Manning isn't going to put himself in that situation to compete with a city. Fans are still going to be a Tebow lover until he starts bombing next season. Maybe he'll learn how to play the position and come out on fire and surprise everyone. I just know Manning won't want any part of that drama.
Hey Ron Montgomery, you miss Kurt Warner much? LOL.
He's clearly going to AZ. Ron has already switched his HP avatar.
Hey prettydarkhorse, awesome hat girl! I have one something like that, although it's difficult to color coordinate it with the rest of my outfit. I mean, I'm not really into wearing yellow dresses.
Actually, I haven't worn any of my Steeler stuff since Tim Tebow and God beat us in the playoffs.
Yeah, I hope Peyton goes to Miami. I'd rather not see the Steelers have to deal with Houston in the playoffs next season with Houston having home field advantage. That's what cost us this past season.
That is why I wrote several hubs that basically said Tim Tebow is a joke..because he is...he was just the latest fad like the wild cat and 4-6 defense of the 85 Bears...my hub Why Tim Tebow Will Not be Starting in the NFL Within Three Years or Less says it all...so does my other one about Why Tim Tebow's Supposedly Amazing Performance Wasn't Impressive at All!
So what team has the cap space to sign Peyton?
And if they don't, how are they going to get the cap space, as in release who?
The money, it's always about the money. For the team, anyway.
Peyton doesn't care much about the money, since he is going to get $20 million or more from whatever team he ends up with.
You better start doing some math, Ron Montgomery.
Okay Ron, here's the story. It may make you cry.
Your team, the Cardinals has no cap space. You used your moola to franchise tag Calais Campbell. You would have to get rid of Kevin Kolb if you want Peyton. Kolb has cost your team plenty already. Are you going to say goodbye to him for Peyton who may not play much longer due to age and/or further injury problems?
Miami, Denver, and Kansas City are in good enough shape cap wise to sign Peyton.
Houston is not in good cap shape.
The Steelers are in terrible cap shape, which is why Hines and some other veterans had to go.
I really like prettydarkhorse's cap shape.
Hot off the press!
Peyton Manning is meeting with the Denver Broncos as we speak.
Just saw a clip on ESPN Sports Center where Tim Tebow was carrying Peyton's bag.
The bag looked empty. I think Peyton planned to put some money in it.
Peyton Manning Update:
Peyton had dinner with John Elway and John Fox last night, and is still in Denver.
Will the Broncos close the deal before he leaves?
Or will Peyton do the 11 more like prettydarkhorse mentioned?
That's a lot of free dinners.
I don't see Peyton going to the Broncos. Of course he would help them but the fans love Tebow and its the fans who will fill the seats. I agree with BLACKANDGOLDJACK that Manning would be perfect for the Texans. The only thing that kept them from being division winners every season were the Colts. I'm very curious to see where he'll end up??
I think he will choose either Miami or Kansas! In Kansas the team could easily win their division if he will join them.
Peyton Manning is now in Arizona.
My question is:
Where's Waldo? You know, Ron Montgomery.
Who do you think's showing him around?
I didn't believe Ron until I saw a clip on ESPN last night of Peyton and Ron riding in a big limo with a group of women. I recognized the women from my 2012 Sports Illustrated Swimsuit Edition.
Show some respect. One of those women was my mom.
I saw the resemblance, but I thought for sure she was your sister.
So Ron, what's the skinny here. What do you think the chances are after the visit of the Cardinals getting Peyton?
Hey, I'm rooting for you. I always liked your coach when he was with the Steelers.
Although I'm good with the Dolphins too, because I hate the Patriots.
Outside of teams that already have an elite QB (New Orleans, the Patriots, etc.), almost everybody should at least be taking a look at Peyton. That said, I think Denver needs to stick with Tebow. He's shown he can get the job done, so I wouldn't necessarily scrap a winning formula that's showing promise.
I like Manning and I have no doubt that he will land on his feet, but the question really is how many more good years does he have left? With 14 years under his belt, I see him playing another 4-5 years max - especially if he wants to win another ring. I can see him going to a team in need of an elite QB while they groom a solid draft pick, and you can do a lot worse than having Peyton Manning mentor your future QB. (That alone was worth keeping him in Indy in my opinion.)
It sounds like Bud Adams is just itching to get Peyton:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/1 … _ref=false
I wouldn't mind seeing him back in the state where he started it all! And maybe they could bring in a few of the other Colts who got turned out, too...
I think Bud Adams is being the jerk he usually is... he knows he can't sign Peyton so he makes this announcement to be sure that the world knows that Peyton rejected him.... no way Bud will pay what is needed.... it's a self-serving announcement and serves no other purpose than to CYA by throwing Peyton under the bus....
I'm no Adams fan, so I'm not defending him. They say the Titans salary cap is in good shape--you don't think Adams would give what was needed to get Peyton?
Sorry, but I didn't understand what you meant by "CYA"...
CYA - cover your ass... Bud owns the Tennessee team and it stands to reason the local fan base would want Peyton to play at home... so Bud has to make it look like he tried or else he might catch some bad press.... I'm just being cynical....
Looking at this from the standpoint of what Peyton wants, I don't think it's necessarily about the money for him at this juncture. (He knows there will be endorsements and an analyst job waiting fo rhim when he finishes playing, if nothing else.) I think he wants another ring, so he'll be looking for teams that are actual contenders, in my opinion.
So the question is, what teams are only missing an elite QB to get them over the hump?
Titans have zero chance of landing Peyton. The national media says Denver has the edge right now, but I think he's coming to AZ. The Cardinals are a better team and they give him the best chance of returning to the Super Bowl, which is all that really matters to him.
Why is that, Ron? About the zero chance? I admit, I haven't had a chance to follow too much of this yet, so I'm not up on all the reasons why or why not certain teams.
For my own personal reasons, I'd love to see him in Tennessee again, but I wouldn't mind seeing him paired with Larry Fitzgerald, either, lol.
The Titans would still be an awful, dysfunctional team even with Peyton. He's a great player, but it's not as if he's the Spaghetti Monster...
Ahhhh, okay...well, they gotta start somewhere to come back!
Again, another reference I don't get...spaghetti monster? ROFL
I don't prosthelytize on his behalf, but you can google him.
it just ups the money from the other interested teams. I think he'll be a titan when it is all said and done
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