The Tragic Truth about Tattoos

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The Truth about Tattoos

I had written a hub earlier on 'The Dangers of Tattoos' - which was from purely a medical point of view. The present article is more comprehensive, and should enlighten the open-minded reader about the 'dark truths' behind tattoos.

Historical Aspect

History shows that tattoos have always been associated with paganism, shamanism, heathen (Baal worship), occult mysticism and demonism. The tattoo has never been associated with Christians, until the present decadent religious times. Wherever the Christian faith made its entrance, the tattoo made its exit.

Tattoos where associated with shamans or magic-men (witch-doctors). A shaman is an intermediary between the natural and the supernatural worlds, who is in direct contact with spirits who are invariably evil. Tattooing was often a magical rite, linked to scarification and blood-letting, and the tattooing process involved complex rituals and taboos, known only to the shaman and his tribe. In tattooing the skin is punctured and the blood is drawn. Licking the blood during tattoo operations is not unknown. The puncturing was considered the ‘opening of inlets for evil to enter’. Tattoos were therefore channels for demonic possession. Even today, certain tattoo artists burn incense and light candles during tattoo operations, while others allow ‘demons to guide the tattoo needle over the client’s body’.

Tattoos have always reflected a note of unabashed rebellion and marked deviancy. Hence tattoos were used to mark criminals, adulterers, traitors, deserters, the deviant and the outcast. Even the ancient Greeks and Romans did not tattoo themselves, but they branded slaves and criminals with tattoos. The Latin word for ‘tattoo’ is ‘stigma’ – which is a distinguishing mark cut into the flesh of a slave or a criminal, and was considered a mark of disgrace or reproach. By the early 1900s public opinion against tattoos was so strong that tattooed persons were considered freaks and found mostly in sideshows and circuses.


The Psychological Aspect

It has been observed that criminals, drug addicts, sex perverts and social outlaws are the overwhelming majority of the tattooed. Hard rock bands sport sick and lewd tattoos. Gangs encourage tattoos to instill a sense of ‘belonging’. Tattoos carry a streak of aggression and anti-establishmentarianism and are subversive of morality. Death (inclusive of skulls, snakes, demons, flames) and pornography (lewd pictures, nude figures) are popular themes of tattoos. Psychologists have considered tattoos to be marks of personality disorder which is manifested later in criminal behavior. Low self-esteem, lack of self-control, sadomasochism, bondage, fetishism, bisexuality, antisocial personality, mania and bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia – are reflected in self-inflicted multiple tattoos.  Studies have linked tattoos to homosexuality, lesbianism and gross sexual perversion.

Tattooed youth are more likely to engage in sexual intercourse, take to alcohol and drugs, and exhibit violent behavior, and drop out of high school – by as much as 4 times compared to non-tattooed youth.

The Christian Aspect

Carnal Christians side-step the injuction in Leviticus 19;28 by arguing that the commandment is for Old Testament Israel and not for New Testament Christians. Does that mean that bestiality and child sacrifice which are forbidden in Leviticus are for Old Testament Israel and not for New Testament Christians? The New Testament does not have to spell out all sins. Smoking, for instance, is not mentioned in the Bible anywhere; but does it mean that smoking is not a vice or sin?

Reputed Bible scholars and commentators have made in clear that the moral commandments in Leviticus are for all time and not just for Israel in the Old Testament age. Leviticus 19:28 says, ‘You shall not make any cutting in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you. I am the LORD.’ On this Matthew Henry, Merrill Unger and Jamieson, Fausset and Brown have made it amply clear that tattoos are forbidden by God. It is to be noted that while ‘cuttings’ are qualified by the phrase ‘for the dead’, ‘marks’ (or tattoos) have no such qualification. Which means that all tattoos (Christian and otherwise) are evil in God’s eyes.

One of the arguments made by carnal Christians is that Lev 19.27 forbids haircuts. What Leviticus 19.27 is talking about is ‘rounding the corners of your head’ and ‘marring the corners of your beard’. These were heathen practices. One such practice was to cut the hair so that the head resembled a celestial globe. It is called a ‘tonsure’, a practice of heathens to honor their gods. The cutting of the flesh was demonstrated by the prophets of Baal on Mount Carmel. It is not to be forgotten that the demon-possessed man in Mark 5 was in the habit of cutting himself with stones. Cutting and masochistic self-flagellation is also practiced by Muslims during their festival of Muharram. In short, the injunctions in Lev 19:26-28 are a strong condemnation of heathen practices – witchcraft, astrology, cutting, tattooing, tonsures, etc.

In 1 Samuel 15:23 we are told that ‘rebellion is like the sin of witchcraft’. Tattoos sported by today’s youth have been the mark of rebellion and hatred of authority (besides, rejection of all moral values). In God’s eyes, the sin of tattooing is like witch-craft. We have already seen the origins of tattoos in witch-craft and shamanism. It remains to be researched whether this ‘witch-craft’ has also led to widespread demon-possession. No, tattoos are not ‘body decoration’; they have nothing to do with fashion and beauty; but rather they are sinister signs of moral decay and infiltration by evil spirits into modern society.

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Rmorden 6 years ago

Anything can be made evil!

I believe that young people today get tattoos to express themselves. Example after a friend dies they tattoo something on themselves to remember their friend.

God looks on the heart!


JaneX1917 6 years ago

What the hell, I know a LOT of people with tattoos who are NONE of the above (homosexual, authority-hating, criminal-minded, gang members, witches, devil worshippers, sexual deviants, sadomasochists, etc.) NOR do they have any mental disorders. By what authority do you take such liberty to condemn people who get tattoos? For a lot of people, yes, it IS about fashion, art, and self-expression, and for many young people about being cool. How dare you label 'all' people who get tattoos as being carnal sinners? And what the hell makes smoking a sin? Again, who the hell gave YOU authority to decide what are and aren't sins? Keep your opinions to yourself if they are to continue being so narrow-minded and uneducated. And no, I have no tattoos myself, and never will, nor do I smoke. But know plenty of WONDERFUL people who do, and I doubt that God, the loving father that he is, is going to overlook how wonderful and kind they are and send them to hell just for smoking or having tattoos.


Richard 6 years ago

Is this article meant to be eye opening? All it is is a series of assertions with nothing to back it up. I find it amusing.

Also, appealing to Christianity shows just exactly where your bias is coming from.


Diane 6 years ago

People have a huge misunderstanding of Christianity. It was not the writer of this post who made up the rules. These rules are explicitly stated in the Bible. And God does not love everybody because they are "nice" or "wonderful people" in our eyes. God is holy and he demands holiness. The Bible states over and over that God hates the wicked and loves the righteous. A person who appears to be "nice" on the outside is still sporting a spirit of rebellion in his heart when he flagrantly disregards God's rules. People who do not realize they are sinning when they get tatoos are not going to be let off the hook for not knowing the law. Especially in a country where Bibles are readily available. Ignorance of the law is no excuse in anybody's world.


Frank 6 years ago

Diane, how nice of you to take a black & white view of it, and the wrong one at that. The Bible says God hates wickedness (not the wicked), and God loves all people. People get punished because God hates them. If you have a bible and actually read it, you should know that, though I wonder if you're just trolling, like the author of this article is clearly doing so.

There's a lot of controversy over how much Levitical law actually applies to Christians. Some of it doesn't apply to us anymore. What is certain is that the dietary, cleanliness and circumcision laws don't apply anymore. Christians are allowed to eat bacon, shrimp, crab, and don't have to get circumcised.


Shoshana 6 years ago

Judaism is strict in this matter: no tattoos whatsoever allowed.

Especially after the ha-Shoah when the concentration camp guards tattooed the prison numbers to all inmates. Tattoos are not only signs of mockery of G-d and of paganism, they also signify humiliation and insult.

It is no surprise that the Xtian attitude to tattoos is so lenient; they have junked the Torah anyway.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

Diane, you are absolutely right. Be strong in the Lord, and in the power of His might, Eph 6.10

Shoshana, true Christians have the greatest respect for the Torah. After all they are the first five books of the Bible. The Bible is one complete whole. And Lev 19.28 stands!


Lauren 6 years ago

From a purely logical, rational standpoint, your claim that "Tattooed youth are more likely to engage in sexual intercourse, take to alcohol and drugs, and exhibit violent behavior, and drop out of high school – by as much as 4 times compared to non-tattooed youth." Is fundamentally flawed. Correlation does not equal causation. Thus, one could assert "Youth who engage in sexual intercourse, take to alcohol and drugs, exhibit violent behavior, and drop out of high school are as much as four times as likely to have tattoos as youth who abstain from these activities." But, as this is solely correlation, and no causation has been proven, it has no basis in fact, logically or otherwise.


Lee 6 years ago

Lauren, thank you for making the only sensible contribution to this discussion thus far.


Sean 6 years ago

Even the Devil can quote Scripture, and just like Satan you are clearly abusing the Bible to further your own hate and propaganda.

Your "Christian" view on the tattoo subculture has many of the same indicators as the Fundamentalist "Islamic" view on much of the western world.


susan 6 years ago

I'm thinking God is more concerned with our hearts. Some of us may get tattoos because we love our tattooed neighbors and want to be "all things to all men, that by all means God's salvation is extended." Jesus had a magnetic effect on those whose behavior is described in this article, correlating with tattoos. Those obsessed with their own ability to keep the dozens of laws can easily be more self-focused. Loving God and loving our neighbor is the ultimate goal for our lives.


Dillon 6 years ago

Speaking of Propaganda... Why does anything tattoo related have to be about religion? Not to mention that we can all argue till we're blue in the face (as we all have been for over 2000 years). The fact of the matter is, regardless of our faiths, beliefs or upbringings it's perfectly possible that we are all wrong. We speak of the Bible being (or containing) "Laws" but, that could just as easily be propaganda! We believe it to be the word of God, but in all honestly, no-one knows that to be fact. It is possible that it is 100% man written and we all follow blindly. So stop taking things literally and treat people the way you'd want to be treated. Keep things simple rather than over analyzing based on reading too deep into a "book" that we have no idea whether or not truly is the word of God. Faith and belief is not fact. I mean, take the blinkers off your heads and look with an open mind... Now, my question to you is : How on earth could a picture on your body make you evil? How does ink change your soul? Does getting a tattoo change a persons personality? Of course not!


Sarah  6 years ago

I'm interested to know your thoughts on Christian celebrations such as Christmas and Easter, both of which are pretty much just Christian twists on Pagan traditions. Because these holidays were founded on preexisting pagan celebrations, do you believe Christmas and Easter are evil or demonic? You might, I don't know. But it seems like most believers who I know think both are pretty wholesome.

It seems to me that the intention/motive behind celebration is what's actually important in those cases: early clergy were trying to spread the word of Christianity. They took the opportunity to convert more people and reinforce the religion with positivity by fitting familiar rituals into a different (Christian) context.

If that's demonic, I'm definitely screwed.


Shoshana 6 years ago

Sarah, apparently you've never heard of Passover?

Xtians do not even know their own traditions, let alone the Bible.


xjx 6 years ago

I'd keep in mind the fact that correlation does not prove causation.


Shalimar 6 years ago

From a strickly Pagan point of view, the author is a moron and obviously knows absolutely nothing about shamanism, rituals, and magical rites. Bloodletting is not about letting evil or demons in. Bloodletting is about giving of yourself as the spirits give to you. Nothing is free, nothing can every be completely free. Some tattoos were marked into the skin as a form of protection from evil (and evil is a very subjective term). Spirits can be many things, benevolent, benign, manavolent, voyouristic, a pest, etc. Oh, and for those nay sayers, Ghosts are real, a soul does not just get religated to "heaven" or "hell" when the body dies.

There is a whole history to witchcraft, magic, apothocry, and science. Incense and candles depending upon the scent and color can mean many things. There are so many shades of gray in this world and the next that the human mind will never be able to fully grasp them all. People who make a one sided argument without having all the facts and then twisting what facts and supositions they do know to their own agenda makes me so angry. Shamans were the healers for their tribe, an intermediary between worlds.

I for one would love to see the author's sources on their "facts", and to know what skewed venue they were contrived from.


Worldofcharlie 6 years ago

Although I don't wear any ink...you might want to do your bloody research first...

Didn't ink originate in China thousands of years ago..

No wait...you believe in creationism...there wasn't a world beyond two thousand years ago...

But Tattoos have been around in history for thousands of years...


4th Grade Teacher 6 years ago

Personally, tatoos are distasteful. One day, you will have wrinkled, saggy skin with distorted pictures and words all over your body. I know alot of elders who regret going crazy with the tatoos. I'm guess I'm capable of looking beyond myself and the right now.

I bet my life, God isn't thinking, "Damn! That's a cool tatoo." Keep making excuses. I'll keep following my path, God's path. You follow your path,interpret the Bible how you please, put Christians down...but when THAT day comes, I will have nothing to hide!


Rick Hoover 6 years ago

Practically speaking, aside from being "distasteful" as 4th Grade Teacher mentions, they're purely a selfish waste of money, and in reality a form of narcissism. My father had a few and the one that was visible when wearing a shirt on his forearm which was a heart that said "mom" was as he said it a regret because it was so distorted on his old arm after years of becoming leathered in the sun. I learned from his mistake, and have spent my money (which is minimal given our present economy) on thing and ideas which are more substantive. If you're wise with heavenly wisdom, you'll do the same. If you're simply filled with worldly wisdom which ultimately will be found out to be foolish, go ahead, mock on, and label me a fool. God's judgment of the matter is all that concerns me.


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laughing loon 6 years ago from South Los Angeles

You don't have to be evil now just 18 and brave enough to try it. Tattoos lost some of their mystique when the honor students started getting ladybugs and flowers.


Dr. Walberg 6 years ago

Sure, the above information may pertain to certain people, but definitely not all. I am a neurosurgeon and have a full back tattoo of the caduceus medical symbol behind a large skull- the symbols of life and death. It is funny to me that the caduceus- having 2 intertwining snakes around a staff- as well as the skull make me fall subject to "Tattoos carry a streak of aggression and anti-establishmentarianism and are subversive of morality. Death (inclusive of skulls, snakes, demons, flames)..." I find my tattoo a piece of subjectively beautiful art with the most profound meaning- what is more glorious and/or tragic than life and death?


So Tired of It  6 years ago

Is anyone else alarmed by 4th Grade Teacher's smug, self-righteous attitude concerning salvation and sinners and the idea that this person has unlimited access 5 days a week to children? It makes me glad my child is grown and no longer in a position to be subjected to the hypocritical, religious right-wing.


really? 6 years ago

are you serious? geez just shows you people fear what they don't understand let me guess you think witches worship satan to right? let me deminish that fear for you witches don't even believe in the devil so get over yourself do your research stuff like this article is why paganism is one of the fastest growing religions and that's fact unlike any part of this acticle


Sonya 6 years ago

Seriously, you need to provide some citations for your "facts." You don't cite anything but the Bible passages.

Your assertion that smoking is a sin is absolutely ridiculous.

I'm sure you'd also claim that Catholics aren't real Christians...but a priest on the radio was specifically asked this question by a listener, and he replied that there is absolutely no Christian/Catholic Scriptural prohibition against tattoos, so long as the images are not violent or apostatic in any way.

Paul of Tarsus overturned the Old Testament prohibitions, such as tattooing, for Christians.

Learn some theology before you condemn a whole group of Christians...or any group of people!


Sonya 6 years ago

I'd like to add, I think Susan's comment is spot-on:

I'm thinking God is more concerned with our hearts. Some of us may get tattoos because we love our tattooed neighbors and want to be "all things to all men, that by all means God's salvation is extended." Jesus had a magnetic effect on those whose behavior is described in this article, correlating with tattoos. Those obsessed with their own ability to keep the dozens of laws can easily be more self-focused. Loving God and loving our neighbor is the ultimate goal for our lives.

Also, the author of this article could be considered to be committing the heresy of Legalism.

Finally, tonsuring is regularly practiced by the second largest Christian denomination in the world (Eastern Orthodoxy.)

The argument of this article would *only* be valid from the standpoint of Messianic Judaism, which rejects Paul's overturning of Old Testament law. This may in fact be a truer Christianity, but the fact is that the *vast* majority of modern Christian churches accept Paul's ruling.


Noel 6 years ago

@ 4th Grade Teacher

Please forgive my youthful naivety, but if one day we all have "wrinkled, saggy skin", won't another patch of coloured ink or twisted wording be the least important of our problems?


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

I agree with 4th Grade Teacher and Rick Hoover. (Just to tell 'Teacher' that tattoo is spelled tattoo.) I'm grateful to Rick for the point regarding narcissism. I wouldn't mind writing another article on the subject, from Rick's point of view; but I would refer the group here to another hub of mine titled 'The Dangers of Tattoos'. It is at http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Dangers-of-Tattoos; and is written from a purely medical point of view, which should satisfy those who are 'allergic' to the Christian faith.


Lance 6 years ago

@Dr. Walberg

2 snakes around a staff = Hermes. Ironically, that's the god of Finance. Not the symbol of Life.


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mary stormshade 6 years ago

at lauren, you make a wonderful point, i a twelve year old girl care not if a person has a tattoo nor do i think it really affects there sexual desires any more or to make them get in trouble, it's simply a simble representing self expression thus showing democracy in the world, which i hate when people get the wrong idea of a little ink.


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mary stormshade 6 years ago

at lauren, you make a wonderful point, i a twelve year old girl care not if a person has a tattoo nor do i think it really affects there sexual desires any more or to make them get in trouble, it's simply a simble representing self expression thus showing democracy in the world, which i hate when people get the wrong idea of a little ink. oh and to the author, did you just dis on homosexuals/muslims/witches/'devil worshippers'/and such, if you did than i'm sorry but you are an idiot, if you have a tattoo you just another person with a tattoo, and if your going to dis on other religions you might want to know more about them first, for instance i spent a year studying the wican relgion, and some of my friends are gay and muslim. and you know what i went to YMCA one year and my counceler was a friking wiccan. so don't dis.


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Awful Poet 6 years ago from The Large Magellanic Cloud (LMC) (m-M)_0 = 18.41, or 48 kpc (~157,000

I enjoyed this read as will many. Though they the many

Will not agree nor will They the many argue that as human beings we will always seek joy enlightenment and the so called taboo. For self pleasure. Etc. And If Im not wrong in the christian belief

God forgives all so either way it's a huge loop hole

to say the least one could murder today and repent tommorrow.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

Murder today and repent tomorrow? It's not as simple as that.

There's a lot of false belief and false repentance resulting in false 'christians'. When you get into God's hands, you will know what 'fiery trials' are. 1 Pet 4:12.

God forgives all? That's a myth, the myth of universalism and the 'Roman Catholic limbo'. If God forgives all, what's the point of Christ dying on the Cross? The whole sacrifice becomes meaningless.


GanjaGirl 6 years ago

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scarredforjesus 6 years ago

Well seems a bit of general stereotyping here tattoos are only supported by drug dealers criminals and gang members. I guess people had problems with Jesus hanging out with tax collectors prostitutes and drunks in his day too! 1 samuel 16:7


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mary stormshade 6 years ago

ok um author, now you dissed on my beliefs, ok hate to break it to you but i am a unitarian universailst. and my mom was raised mormon, my dad raised baptist, and both quit, my dad doesn't believe in god, my mom is striken by people that confuse he rreligious beliefs, and i don't know who i am yet. but i do study and you know what the reason hesus died on the cross was because he was a great teacher, he had free will! but he was not divinely connected! in the original bible it speaks nothing of the trinity so enough!


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mary stormshade 6 years ago

also when you said christian had the utmost repect for the bible, tell me who were the knights templar, and what did they do in the crusades. oh yeah i studied, and we learned about this in school last week, they murdered them.


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50 Caliber 6 years ago from Arizona

VOTED DOWN pure manure, that fowls a sheet of good paper and wastes ink in judgment of those who wear ink, yet bend their knees and bow their heads to the Almighty God, 50


Dawn 6 years ago

I'm pretty sure that before he wrote the article, he pointed out that this was from a "medical" POV. Not a PERSONAL POV. Calm down people... lol


Eva 6 years ago

This whole article is 'lulzworthy.' What a joke.


Kim 6 years ago

I have a tattoo, I do consider myself more pagan than Christian, but can assure you my tattoo is no mockery of god. Neither am I a criminal, an adulterer, a traitor, a deserter, or a deviant. I have never used illicit drugs not am I in a gang. I respect people and their beliefs but have little tolerance for ignorance.

The OT verse that you refer to is Leviticus 19:28. It says “You shall not make any cuts in your body for the dead nor make any tattoo marks on yourselves: I am the LORD.” But those chapters around that verse in Leviticus also cover a great deal of activity that I see few Christians take care to do... Cutting the beard, keeping the Sabbath, In chapter 20, adulterers were to be put to death and children who cursed their parents were to be put to death. Deuteronomy may hold some of my favorite abhorrent verses!! In chapter 22! If a man can prove that his wife is not a virgin, she is to be stoned. If a woman is raped and does not cry out, is to be stoned. If a woman is raped and does cry out, the rapist is to pay off the father and marry the woman.

What I don't get is that people want to pick and choose the words from an ancient book written in an ancient culture and try to apply it to the 21st century. But when you show them verses like these, they get all defensive and try to justify them.


jonathan 6 years ago

@ Susan

Easter and Christmas are not really Christian celebrations, but a mix of righteousness and unrighteousness. Christ was not born on Christmas Day, and Easter has far more to do with Baal worship than with Jesus' ressurection. By the way, when did Christ command us to remember His birth?


Kim 6 years ago

To Dawn: Quote from the beginning:

I had written a hub earlier on 'The Dangers of Tattoos' - which was from purely a medical point of view. The present article is more comprehensive, and should enlighten the open-minded reader about the 'dark truths' behind tattoos.


Allison 6 years ago

WOW go back to the dark ages! Witchraft? Really? When is the next witch hunt? LOL There is no such thing as witches, magic, or a deity. GROW UP. If you are going to believe in god due to your own insecurities and fear of death, do NOT force your religion upon other people. Also, you might want to get an education because not only are you getting all the historical facts wrong but your also getting your religion wrong. I pity you.


Unregistered 6 years ago

If just for self expression, why not non-permanent ink like henna? Or semi perm dye like for the hair? Don't our personalities change as we grow? I know many people that spent $1000s getting removed but there's still a mark. IMO anything permanent is self-mutilation and would rather keep options open for the future.


Vashra 6 years ago

This was clearly written by someone who has only ever read the Bible "in the original English" and who is determined to undo the finished work of Christ on the Cross to put us all back under the Law.

In his letter to the Ephesians, Paul, employing graphic imagery, indicated that the Mosaic Law constituted a “middle wall of partition” that separated the Jews from the Gentiles (Eph. 2:14). The figure suggests a barrier that creates a distinction between two parties. Clearly, that vivid symbolism underscored the fact that the Hebrews and the Gentiles were/are not under identical religious systems.

We are *no more* under the Law, but under Grace.

The Law was given by Moses, but Grace AND TRUTH *came* in the Person of Jesus Christ.

Since Christ completed His work for us, He has made ALL THINGS *new*. It does not *matter* what tattoos were tied to or meant in the past. Christ purified it all.

What matters now is entirely the intent of the person getting the tattoo as he gets it. If it is a declaration of brotherhood to his military unit, a statement of love for his godly wife, a pure expression of innocent (not ungodly/lustful/etc) secular art, or (the majority of Christian tattoos) an expression of love and devotion to his God -- and *you* think God will be upset about it, then you need to upgrade your understanding of Him. Stop trying to make the Lord into a petty individual who can't tell the differences from one circumstance to the next.

EVERYTHING (and I assure you, in the Greek, it is about the most inclusive word for everything one could choose from that language) is permissible...but not everything is beneficial. When the Holy Spirit gave those words to Paul, He did not misspeak them. The usual arguments about how the license to revel in Sin is NOT being granted by these words do apply, but true Justice has *never* been as simple as following a rule book.

There are over 200 laws in the Torah. Barring a few Messianic Jews, I don't know *any* Christians who even make the slightest attempt to follow them all.

The prohibition against ritual scarification and tattoos was NOT numbered among those laws the Spirit took pains to indicate that even Gentiles should follow...

Call me silly if you like, but I'll take God's word over the author's :P


Godles 6 years ago

God does not exist. He is just just a figment of your imagination. Truly enlightened people can realized that the concept of God is a synthesized one, and is mostly used as a means to control your thoughts and actions.


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lifegate 6 years ago from Pleasant Gap, PA

Mr. P.

Thanks for more of your insight. More of the Word to stand on!


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thecrue 6 years ago from Noneofyourbuisnessville, AL

But still,it says that we have free agentcy on what we want to to do. So if someone wants a tatoo, so be it! Now, I don't agree with tatoos, but if someone wants one, It's there choice! Does this mean that they are a Skinhead? NO!


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theherbivorehippi 6 years ago from Holly, MI

This is pretty comical to say the least. I respect that everyone has the right to their opinion however then this hub should be called "my opinion about tattoos" because there is nothing truthful about this. Not even the history. At least get your facts right before claiming it to be truthful. I would like to agree with the comment of Caliber 50 above me. Definitely rated down for how non-truthful this is actually is. And come on....tattoos are marks of personality disorders? This is even funnier. What a joke!


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libby101a 6 years ago from KY

Patronix, it looks like you've taken some pretty rude criticism. But God told us about that in his word! Some will even die for his name sake! Hold your head up high! I agree with every word of your hub!

What is so sad is the fact that most change the word for their own ways! God said not to add to or take away! And we wonder why heaven's size is set in stone...doesn't change! But hell enlarges daily!!! Hmmm..

God bless you! Keep up the fight! I'm with you all the way! On the side of Jesus Christ!


GOD SUPREMACY 6 years ago

Sons and daughters!!!

It's time to say something.

Love yourselves, Love the others, Love your lifes.

Love who is in front and behind you

Love the present, as the past and the future

Love to Love

God is everywhere, but much more in your minds: open your minds,open your hearts, open your eyes. God, that is Love, will fly everywhere.

Be free in love if you want a FUTURE.

WITH LOVE, THE DIVINE THAT IS ON EVERYONES SOULS AND BODIES


sistergirl 6 years ago

Patronx, I agree with you. I posted this article on my Facebook wall, and it made some of my friends very angry. Obvioulsy they do not know the whole history of Bible, what God, the Lord Jesus Christ says about tatooing, and cutting. I have done some research on tatoos and things that go with it. It is very serious, and Satan just loves to deceive people into thinking it is OK or cultural to do such things. Yes, the old testament is the law, and, and Christ came to fulfill the law, not take away from it. My pastor was very sad that people were arguing with me. Leviticus 19:28 is very clear. My pastor said these people obviously haven't read Psalm 139:13-16.


Kim 6 years ago

Jesus NEVER said anything about tattooing... If the WHOLE history of the bible is so relevant, why is there so much that is not followed?


Wonderous 6 years ago

What's a Tattoo?


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mary stormshade 6 years ago

@wonderous

...hmmmmmm basicly an ink marking you infuse to your skin.


Chris 6 years ago

What I wonder is, why do you feel the need to enlighten the open minded reader to the "dark truths". Is this the calling "god" gave you. "Go out and condem all those with tattoos?" Hate to break it too you buddy, but christian lore states that only "god" can pass judgement. Did "god" decide to go on vaction and leave you in charge and forgot to send the memo to everyone else?

What I really can't believe is that you actually used the phrase "open minded" in your little rant. There is nothing open minded about it at all. You clearly know nothing about the other religious groups you talked about, and there for any "logical" point you might have been attempting to make is moot because there are no facts to suport it.

As a side note to all you devout "I worship god and his way is the only way" christians. Your scripture also says to believe with "the faith of a child". I don't know about you but when I tell either one of my children something the first thing the say is why? Why is that? Because in order to better understand something you need all the facts. Blind faith is worse than no faith.


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lcg4jc 6 years ago

There has been a lot written from both sides of the spectrum and many Christian scholars who are not liberal in any sense have come to the conclusion that the aesthetical tattoos of today are not in any way related to the tattoos that were being done by those in biblical times in which they tattooed their body unto the dead.

There are still many nations (ethnicities) that continue the ritual of marking their body unto the dead, meaning they in some way shape or form worship those who have passed on before them.

For example, the Samoans tattoo themselves for this reason and the chief of the tribe tattoos are extremely painful because they are all over him from his waist down to the mid thighs. Yes, even the private parts(ouch).

I know a brother in Christ who said that shared with the congregation that he was the son of the chief and was next in line to get the extravagant tattooing.

He then said, "I was saved by the Lord in more ways than one" (everyone giggled because they caught his meaning) He wasn't all that crazy about going through the pain of getting the tattoos.

Please understand I am not discrediting the other Christian scholars who have another point of view such as the one you have written on your hub.

But one thing I can say and this is purely in love. A little reminder, Jesus sent us into the world to speak of the Good News. The world does not need to know their problem they need the answer.

You my dearest sister in Christ have the answer, His name is Jesus. Lets focus as believers on the things that unite the Body of Christ, and also brings deliverance to the hearers.

After all the Bible in proverbs advises us in several occassions that our words should be uplifting, exhorting others, not tearing one another down.

For example: "A gentle answer turns away wrath, but a harsh word stirs up anger" Proverbs 15:1

The Apostle Paul couldn't have said it any clearer than this:

"Conduct yourselves with wisdom toward outsiders, making the most of the opportunity. Let your speech always be with grace, as though seasoned with salt, so that you will know how you should respond to each person." Colossians 4:5,6

Last my sister let me remind you of this very important scripture passage found also in Colossians 2:20-23

"If you have died with Christ to the elementary principles of the world, why, as if you were living in the world, do you submit yourself to decrees, such as,

"Do not handle, do not taste, do not touch!"

(which all refer to things destined to perish with use)--in accordance with the commandments and teachings of men?

These are matters which have, to be sure, the appearance of wisdom in self-made religion and self-abasement and severe treatment of the body, but are of no value against fleshly indulgence.

Believers are not subject to the don't and do's rather we are subject to the Lord Jesus Christ and His will.

There are many areas in which believers can agree to disagree, this is called Christian Liberty. Paul in Romans 15 when speaking to the community of believers made it clear that there will be some believers who believe one thing is okay and others that will believe that it isn't okay. (at that occasion Paul was speaking about meat sacrificed to idols). Some believers believed as long as you gave thanks to the Father for the food it didn't matter what had been done to the meat because every good and perfect gift comes from God. Other believers believed it was a sin to eat the meat. Paul reminds both sides that there is Christian liberty and more or less says to agree to disagree on areas and beliefs that do not affect our our salvation. He concluded his argument by telling all believers to be considerate of one another's feelings and beliefs and try not to do anything that may cause another believer to fall.

I hope and pray that you can always remember that when speaking of things that are not pertanent to our salvation you have the attitude of grace and willingly agree to disagree.

What is pertanent to our salvation? Who do you say Jesus is? Do you believe in the Father, Son, Holy Spirit? Do you believe and accept the redemptive work that Jesus completed on the cross for salvation?

These are issues that we as believers cant waiver.

These are essentials to our faith.

Therefore, in the essentials let there be unity.

In non-essentials, liberty.

In all things, chairty.

I love you sister and pray the Lord blesses you immensely.


DR SHWE 6 years ago

THE TOPIC IS TIMELY AND A CHALLENGE TO THIS GENERATION.MANY WOULD ALWAYS PREFER CHRISTIANITY BY CONVENIENCE JUST AS MANY ARE FOLLOWING JESUS WITHOUT THE CROSS OF SELF DENIAL.I DARE TO CHALLENGE YOUR CONVICTION AS A CHRISTIAN IF TATTOOS ADVANCE THE COURSE OF GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST AND KINGDOM BUSINESS.IF TATTOOS ARE ALL ABOUT YOU AND NOT JESUS WHOM YOU ALL SHOULD LIVE FOR, I THINK SOMEONE IS MISSING THE MARK.


htriplem 6 years ago

I just wasted 10 minutes reading this. I can't believe it!


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Lady Wordsmith 6 years ago from Lancaster, UK

Ha. This hub is hilarious in its ignorance!

'Psychologists have considered tattoos to be marks of personality disorder which is manifested later in criminal behavior. Low self-esteem, lack of self-control, sadomasochism, bondage, fetishism, bisexuality, antisocial personality, mania and bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia – are reflected in self-inflicted multiple tattoos. Studies have linked tattoos to homosexuality, lesbianism and gross sexual perversion.'

Pratonix, you actually just lumped together people with mental disorders and those of different sexual preferences and implied that they're all evil criminals. As far as I'm aware, there is no crime in being gay, being sexually active, or in being mentally ill! Oh dear. I think it's sad that you can't look about you and see human beings in all their glory and beauty, that you are seeing such evil in us all. I'm surprised, with such prejudices as you seem to display here, that you can find anything or anyone good in the world. Your life must be very sad and bleak indeed. I hope you manage to find some enlightenment and joy someday and realise that you've been sorely mistaken.

Yes, I do have tattoos. I intend to have many more, because I love them, and I have always loved them. They are an expression of my personality and my creativity - nothing to do with fashion. I've never committed a crime in my life, as far as I'm aware. I'm educated, and I'm kind. I'm a humanist. I believe that there is no God, no Devil, or indeed any kind of supernatural being at all. People are just people, trying to muddle their way through life, and the world might be a slightly better place if you would use your energy to spread love and not hate.

Here, have some love from me - I think you need it :)


Greg 6 years ago

Wow, what a load of bs. I don't have any tattoos myself. This article is severely biased. You religious nut!

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`seventeen year old 6 years ago

umm don't like the hub ignore it but this is only a fact on a guy stating facts from a Cristian bible. and direct belief brought from the bible and possibly no other source. one more thing girls do tend to like bad boys and will go out more often with a guy that has a tattoo or is emotionally messed up. kinda dumb huh yes twelve year olds are attracted to guys w tattoos but some aren't attracted to crap yet. if you wanna talk about teens and preteens start a hub otherwise if you have a belief you would like to share share it but please stop trolling and to the person who posted this change the title to "the bibles view of tattoos in my eyes" p.s. your kids really do not tell you everything neither do their friends.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

For those who are a trifle unhappy with this hub, and want to cling to their tattoos, I would recommend they get a 'facial' done by the world-famous tattoo artist, Rouslan Toumaniantz, a Roumanian, who works in Kortrijk(Courtrai), Belgium. He's prepared to pay back 50% if you're not satisfied; that's a guarantee few other tattoo experts can match. http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-...

The art-work done on Rouslan's own face is astounding by any standards. I think few here would aspire to reach that level - but they can try! (As far as the latest news goes, Rouslan is still in business, and his tattoo-skills, evident in his own 'body art', have vastly improved.)


May 6 years ago

If you don't like tattoos don't get them. As far as God is concerned, maybe he doesn't think "That tattoo looks cool!" but he doesn't care about our physical bodies, he cares about our spirits. You can't exactly tattoo a spirit. You could flip that and if God does think "Hey that tattoo looks cool!" It is because it is art and he gave humans art so he would probably appreciate it in all forms.

Also, if you are Christian don't you read the WHOLE Bible? You know, that whole second part where JESUS comes into the picture and says that the only two commandments are about loving God with all your heart, soul, and might; the second being to love your neighbor as yourself? What about all those people who get the Christian cross tattooed on their body? Or the ones who get Mary Mother of God on their bodies? Or Bible versus? They do that because they are loving God and to put something so permanent on their body shows great devotion.

Also, you can't just pick and choose which "laws" to follow. If you wanna take Leviticus seriously then do it and follow all the laws set forth in that book and not just the ones you want to follow.


na wa o 6 years ago

education no good sorry o


Tetrarch 6 years ago

The Bible you invoke to defend your wild and unfounded assertions is the same one that condones child sacrifice, slavery and the killing of any and all unbelievers, alot worse than injecting some dye into your epidermis, wouldn't you say? I have a friend who's mom got a tattoo in her youth, seems like an average, responsible good mother to me.


mshiner 6 years ago

we mat not follow the laws of old, but those with a nclose relationship with the father will know these things. carnal christions are still on the first level of christianity, the only thing god hates more hates more than a lier is a fornicater, no gayness is not alright because were in the modern age, & tattoos are one of many ways that some will usher in the antichrist. and when your preacher tells you, i wasn't taught those things, tell him, you better go back to school then. or better yet, read the Binle.


Logan 6 years ago

May You all should notice that the article is written in past tense which means the author is talking abt who got tatooes and why in Old times... and Not now??? Makes sense??


Quietus 6 years ago

So you put Christians back under the Old Law because its suits you. How convenient. Don't forget to stone your children to death when they disrespect you. And its good to know we can have multiple wives and procreate with our children if we sign up by your rules. And if we have a problem with some other group, we can just slaughter every man, woman, and child amongst them.

I have dozens of tattoos. I am an ordained minister and have served as a police officer, soldier, sailor, and worked as a tattoo artist. I don't want anything to do with your twisted version of religion.


bittersweetΩ 6 years ago

I have a scar on my forearm caused by a cigarette burn inflicted when I was raped many years ago and I have been thinking of getting a small tattoo of a dove to cover the scar. Would that be sinful?


iloveJesus 6 years ago

Thank you for the awesome information,I hope every person that will read this will agree so that they're hearts will be on God not to satan


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Ladytron 6 years ago

Wait, does this mean that since I don't have a tatoo that I'm not a good lesbian witch? Darn it, I knew I was doing something wrong. :(


be positive 6 years ago

Patronix..I absolutely agree with you, Tattoo was never be recommended by any religion like jews, christian, and even Islam! God loves art..but He doesn't like you to hurt yourself..because your body is a shrine. He creates us perfectly and those who ruin His creation with blood on their body is not acceptable. put tattoo in your skin not only hurt yourself, but also put you in danger. I think patronix is not trying to condemn ppl with tattooes, but he just trying to find the actual fact about it from science and from the holy bible..If you cannot accept the fact..at least don't be angry! if you angry that means you know deep in your heart that he is right.. and you knew that the bible is right!

To those who angry with his hub, i asked you a question..how many of you has ever read the Bible? full read it! try to learn what it said..and what the meaning behind every story..

Don't taken for granted of God exist..because He is there and He watching us every second. Should never taken for granted what He's telling us to do, and not do..You better believe that there is the judgement day oneday..and you are going to be ashamed on yourself later..Peace..


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mary stormshade 6 years ago

you spelled romanian wrong. i've been there i know.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

lcg4jc, I don't know who this 'sister' is you've been addressing. Besides, your view of the Christian faith is not based on the Bible. The word of God is very emphatic. Lev 19.28 says, You shall not tattoo any marks upon yourself! It has nothing to do with 'for the dead' (that applies to 'cuttings'). So no tattoos whatsoever!

A lot of liberal 'christian' scholars may have a lot of views on the subject. But what does the Word of God say? What does the Holy Spirit tell one who has been born again?

Every bit of the article on the Tragic Truth about Tattoos has been carefully researched. I would request you to read the other hub also; the one written from a medical point of view, at http://hubpages.com/style/The-Dangers-of-Tattoos

God bless.


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jessica.written. 6 years ago from Flagstaff, Arizona

Your over thinking a simple thing.

when a person goes in to get a tattoo they are obviously not like.."Oh, hey this connects me to Satan."

they are probably saying "damn i am so stoked to get this tattoo that i have wanted to get for a long time, i think its gonna look superb on my left bicep."

people arent smart enough to look into things. and really to tell you the truth (in my opinion) they don't care. if they are getting a tattoo of there recently dead grandmas name it is because they love her and want to keep her with them forever.

don't just group all the people that have tattoos into a satan worshiping club that are criminals and are either on drugs in jail or a fuck up. people are just people. they are going to do what they want- its called free will.


Grovesister 6 years ago

Right that's it I am getting a tattoo, this guy has convinced me that it would be rude not to.


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jfram 6 years ago from UK

Impeccable use of sources. I applaud your objectivety. Unfortunately it is narrow minded induviduals like yourself that help create a 'stigma' around Christianity, citing archaic and outdated studies and ways of thinking.

You would probably get on with good old Cesare Lobroso.

On the other hand... Nice trolling.


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Richard 6 years ago

I think all of the above are arguing the fact of a Tattoo has a connection to someones book that was written a long time ago. Nowhere doe's the Bible speack the truth of the fast universe of what we live in. Nowhere does it speak of the galaxy. it's just a good story that if we followed it, it would be a perfect world. Look at all the sexully abused people/Children from the so called men of the cloth. Evil that hid within the walls of the church. Guess what none of them had a Tattoo. CASE CLOSED.


paul 6 years ago

when did god write the (rules) i was always led to believe that the bible and (rules) were written by other people who claim to be doing it in gods name.


sally 6 years ago

Interesting view point but, very judgmental and since you use the so called history of the tattoo and the Bible as the reasons for your opinion I have to disagree. Yes, the tattoo has been associated negatively at times, but that doesn't mean all people with tattoos are bad or doing something bad.The Bible reference you gave refers to laws for the Jewish people of that time. Today, most people get tattoos because they just like them. Very innocent. The problem with your view point is that it is judging people inaccurately. It's just not true. So since the Bible clearly teaches not to judge people and not to spread lies, I encourage you to rethink your ideas. And try practicing the golden rule.


Elaine 6 years ago

Lol, there are still people, who belives that some "GOD" doeas exist? Rofl, no, he does not. Really.


sally 6 years ago

Interesting view point but, very judgmental and since you use the so called history of the tattoo and the Bible as the reasons for your opinion I have to disagree. Yes, the tattoo has been associated negatively at times, but that doesn't mean all people with tattoos are bad or doing something bad.The Bible reference you gave refers to laws for the Jewish people of that time. Today, most people get tattoos because they just like them. Very innocent. The problem with your view point is that it is judging people inaccurately. It's just not true. So since the Bible clearly teaches not to judge people and not to spread lies, I encourage you to rethink your ideas. And try practicing the golden rule.


kenny 6 years ago

This article made me very very angry!


amyg0324 6 years ago

Tattoos are the expression of an individual. Why is there so much religious BS posted? I have 3 tattoos and do not regret one of them. I got my 1st tattoo at the age of 20, second when I was 31 and my third at the age of 34. I am not at all religious...however, if you want to believe in an invisible man in the sky, that is your right. I do not find fault in your theories, so do not find fault in others. Is this not the so-called "Christian Way"? My tattoos are just an expression of me. Yes, eventually my skin will sag and they will not look like they did when I got them, but who cares? My skin will wrinkle and sag anyway...getting tattoos did not speed up the aging process. And to the 4th Grade Teacher...I pity the children in your class. Do all the children in your class have to dress and look alike? What ever happened to being yourself? I do not condone a child getting a tattoo, but when they are of age, what is the problem with expressing themselves? I am not a criminal or a gangster. I am an educated 41 yr old with a good job, a mortgage and a volunteer for many groups in the DC Metro area. If someone has an issue with my tattoos, they can kiss my a**.


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kar351 6 years ago from Portugal

I assume that you (the writer) don't have any tattoo.

I think this article, is a lil offensive to anyone who have tattoos. Im 37 years old, I never got convicted by any crime or never did a crime (if u wanna count speeding tickets or parking tickets ok then), I did smoked joints in my youth way way before I have any tatto in my body.

I do have a huge tattoo on my back that I made around 10 years ago, and if u wanna know just because I said I was a consumer of light drugs, I stop smoking joints at the age of 24. I work, I have a house, a car, no kids since im not married and my personal life don't give me much time to raise children at the moment.

I have friends that have tattoos and none are criminal. Of course there are criminal types of people like gangs and so on that use tattoos. But this is exceptions and cannot be generalized. I know girls, some of them with very high jobs (doctors, lawers, engineers and so on) that have tattoos. They are not criminal and never been.

Saying that anyone that have a tattoo is a criminal is stupid in my opinion.


amyg0324 6 years ago

Tattoos are the expression of an individual. Why is there so much religious BS posted? I have 3 tattoos and do not regret one of them. I got my first tattoo at the age of 20, second when I was 31 and my third at the age of 34. I am not at all religious...however, if you want to believe in an invisible man in the sky, that is your right. I do not find fault in your theories, so do not find fault in mine. Is this not the so-called "Christian Way"? My tattoos are just an expression of me. Yes, eventually my skin will sag and they will not look like they did when I got them, but who cares? My skin will wrinkle and sag anyway...getting tattoos did not speed up the aging process. And to the 4th Grade Teacher...I pity the children in your class. Do all the children in your class have to dress and look alike? What ever happened to being yourself? I do not condone a child getting a tattoo, but when they are of age, what is the problem with expressing themselves? I am not a criminal or a gangster. I am an educated 41 yr old with a good job, a mortgage and a volunteer for many groups in the DC Metro area. I cannot imagine someone having an issue with my tattoos, but if so, they should keep their opinions to themselves.


kid 6 years ago

weres my kitty i wanna kill it


bkukkake 6 years ago

Yo,men,i think you are very kinky inside your mind to write such a things about the people with tattoo.

Please,leave your home and go right now to the doctor.PLEASE !!!!


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graveyard-rose 6 years ago from St. Louis, MO

wow... ok well i have so much to say that i really dont have time to comment other than... @4th grade teacher... u dont teach in illinois do u? if so looks like im homeschooling my daughter!


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graveyard-rose 6 years ago from St. Louis, MO

wow... ok well i have so much to say that i really don't have time to comment other than... @4th grade teacher... u don't teach in illinois do u? if so looks like im homeschooling my daughter!


IndividualMe 6 years ago

WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS GUY!?!? By reading such a narrow-minded, one sided article such as this, I do not feel enlighted, instead I feel more ignorant! Does 'pratonix' (whatever that name is supposed to mean) think he himself is 'God'!? No one on earth has the right to label people or put them into one 'wicked,' 'evil,' 'satanic' category, based on the simple fact that their way of self expression or showing appreciation for art just so happens to be through tattoos. Extremist perspectives such as this one are exactly the type of beliefs that severe mentally disturbed individuals like Jim Jones and David Koresh would have their followers to believe. I wouldn't be the least bit surprised is this pratonix guy is in or has a cult of his own.


Jerome Triplett 6 years ago

What a ridiculous article. If you want to let you childishly superstitious hang-ups to control your life that's fine, but don't write an article based on them as if you're espousing scientific fact.


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deancortez044 6 years ago from Las Vegas

The author does seem very biased against tattoos. I will say, however, that the amount of tattooing among young people has gotten a bit out of control. It's just not a smart idea to be covered in tattoos by your early 20s, before you really know what you want to do with your life.


rebel of truth 6 years ago

100+ years ago the christians who stemmed the root of your belief in Christ committed heinous crimes against humanity, the likes of which would make assumed "satanic sacrifices" look like a Disney film, in the name of the same person. they too used interpretations from the same bible you read to justify their ideals.

a hundred years later, Christianity has fractured into a hundred million different pieces (metaphorical for the different denominations) who are constantly back-chatting about each others "methods" of being christian, and your reference to persons being "carnal christians" (are you serious??) throws you in the mix with everyone else - a lost sheep among lost sheep.

my point is until christianity can pull together and share one common belief across the board on views concerning principals, morals and ethics (tattooing included), anything said by anyone who claims to know more than the next Christian is purely hypocritical.


Brother Paul 6 years ago

The apostle Paul once went on a lengthy diatribe about "length of hair" in Corinthians. When he ended it, he stated that "we (Christians) have no such custom.) He also mentioned to not judge people about following the sabbath in Colossians. You have to use your head to see what does and doesn't apply from levitical law.

God looks at the intent of the heart. What if someone got a tattoo before they came to the Lord? The only sin in the Bible that cannot be forgiven is "blaspheming the Holy Spirit."

I have chosen not to get tattoos. And, I don't condemn those who do. I ain't crazy about some of their choices in a tattoo, but it ain't for me to judge. As Tupac once said, "Only God can judge me." And, he's right about that.

People need to quit judging people about what they do or did and need to start focusing on how can we help one another.

Make it a great day (in the Lord!)

Brother Paul


Carey 6 years ago

Please. I'm a 40 year old mother of 6 with 3 tattoos. 2 of them are from children's books and the third was designed by my kids. There are a lot of sickos out there, with or without tattoos.


THUMPPER 6 years ago

Your crazzzzzzzzy!:)


Those are the lies of people that created gods in their own image and likeness. 6 years ago

I practice Heliolatry and I've a tattoo shaped as a traditional symbol associated to natural energies of change and unity among licing beings.

Thankfully, I do not practice Christianism. I don't follow a god that is the syncretism of Canaanite and Assyrian mountain deities like Adonai, paternal deities as El or Dagon and sky spirits as Yahweh, which were later unified into a single Semitic god Jehovah. Neither I finish my prayers invoking the name of Egyptian god Amen.

I don't practice Christianity because a god that rapes a Jewish teenager girl risking her life, for the god could incarnate into a human being so he could offer himself a bloody sacrifice is immoral. I do not follow a god that claims to be a Jewish man born of a Jewish woman, condemned by Jewish people and killed by Roman people for the glory of a Jewish god whom they call "Lord" and "Master": nothing but a device invented by people to oppress people.

Honestly, a tattoo is the least thing to worry about while there are millions of followers of a false and immoral god such as the man-god of Christians.


laughing 6 years ago

You are an idiot. That is all.


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Tapish 6 years ago

Man!!!

You are seriously an Idiot.


sheila 6 years ago

Hi Sheri: Just read your article about tatoos and I know that the Bible speaks of this and it is forbidden.

Personally I don't like tatoos, I do believe that God must feel the same, since we are created in his image and he doesn't want us to mark ourselves and I agree with that.

I don't judge those that have them, that's not for me to do, I just don't like some of the nasty vulgar and lewd pictures and language they have.

It speaks volumes about us as a society that we can't think of more appropriate things to say or exhibit with the tattoos.

I think we are on a slippery slope, so many don't believe in the Bible, God, or his son; Jesus, I don't see how they can deny him, but that's there choice and in the end if I'm wrong then the jokes on me, BUT I don't think so and I certainly wouldn't want to be in their camp when the end comes I'm on the side of Christ and I feel that is the right side, I also will not judge anyone for their tattoos, I just plain don't like them and find not reason for them, buy a painting and it can say th same thing and hang on your wall till your sick of it and take it down, you can't do that with a tattoo their permanent.


mij 6 years ago

not only is the general jist of this article disgusting but since when was it ok to compare homosexuals with perverts and criminals..... unless u really are too stupid to tell the two apart, in which case i wish u luck in surviving in the real world....


Jren 6 years ago

Is the purpose of this article to see how many people will misspell the word tattoo?


Kevin 6 years ago

Where in the bible does it say Christians can do as they please and toss the law in the dust bin.

The law given to Moses by the God of Sinai clear states that the commands are eternal.

Jesus proclaimed Himself to be the God of Sinai, he said not one iota of the law would pass away until the heaven and earth passed away, so last time I looked the earth was still here. Only Paul claimed the law was void, but notice in Revelation there are 12 thrones one for each apostle. Paul was the 13th apostle, but he is left out of the seating chart in Revelation, so maybe he was an apostate?


Kallie 6 years ago

This is crazy. Who the hell ever said SMOKING was a sin? Very strong example to support your argument *cough*

And for the record, I don't smoke, nor do I have any tattoos.


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blabak 6 years ago

ahhh.. honestly speaking... your article sounds bias to certain side...


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Astra Nomik 6 years ago from Edge of Reality and Known Space

I have many wonderful friends and loved ones who are Christians, including my partner. So for what it’s worth, I have nothing against Christians. However, if I have you correctly - you said above -

"...tattoos carry a streak of aggression and anti-establishmentarianism and are subversive of morality..."

So is rock and roll. So is alcohol. So is Sport. So is Dancing. So are secret societies. So are Governments in some cases. So is politics. So are most people. And people who love controlling other people. First rule of controlling someone, undermine them with some crippling argument. Let’s look some more at your hub...

"..Death (inclusive of skulls, snakes, demons, flames) and pornography (lewd pictures, nude figures) are popular themes of tattoos...."

All of the above can be found in Art and in Galleries, and in Religious art. Death is popular because every one dies eventually.

We also have things called Graveyards. And such iconography is available in many of them.

Define Lewd for me please? Nudity is everywhere in art in churches and religious statues...

What’s wrong with Nudity? In what true context is Nudity “Wrong”? Funny how Nudity and skin showing tattoos gets up your nose.

You add this "...Psychologists have considered tattoos to be marks of personality disorder which is manifested later in criminal behavior. Low self-esteem, lack of self-control, sadomasochism, bondage, fetishism, bisexuality, antisocial personality, mania and bipolar disorder, and schizophrenia – are reflected in self-inflicted multiple tattoos. Studies have linked tattoos to homosexuality, lesbianism and gross sexual perversion..."

What are you, a Psychologist? Are you an expert on Psychology? This is just stunning.

Adolf Hitler didn't have any tattoos. Whatsoever.

That whooshing sound you heard just now is your argument jumping off the top of a tall building.

People don’t have to be abnormal to have tattoos. I consider a pedophile priest to be deviant and misled. But chances are, he won’t have any tattoos on him. At least none we know of...

Neither do lots of people. I don't have a Tattoo. What percentage of the entire human race have tattoos, versus the percentage of humans beings who are proven to be deviant?

Then in the middle of this you say the following...

"...The puncturing was considered the ‘opening of inlets for evil to enter’. Tattoos were therefore channels for demonic possession. Is this something any reasonable person should believe in?

Or this..."...‘demons to guide the tattoo needle over the client’s body’. This is pure fire and brimstone stuff, straight out of the dark ages.

During the 2nd world war, Jews were tattooed and marked and branded by the Nazis. They had no choice in the matter. This Hubs is seriously crossing the line. So WHAT is your problem with tattoos? This is a very one-dimensional argument.

As to subversion, it is a human quality. The doing away of one argument or point or person for the sake of another one. You don't have to have tattoos to subvert. Not something you acquire when you put on a tattoo, or a suit or coat or hat. Perhaps a Uniform maybe?

There are just too many convenient and trite points about tattoos to even begin to treat serious. It's lost on me. Or it smacks of something very sinister...

Most of what you aspire to put over here can apply to just about every Art Gallery in the world too. Will your follow up Hub be about the Truth about Art Galleries? Or Truth about Artists? Are they deviant? Are they Tragic? How about Musicians who play or listen to Rock n Roll?

Or will the follow-up hub be The truth about Gays? Or the Truth about Women? What is your truth? Who are YOU to judge others? And who the hell put YOU in charge?

Your hub goes too far. You are entitled to your opinion. But here your aim is to denigrate and put down anyone you don't like, such as people with tattoos. I am shocked that so many people have rated this with the Facebook vote button above. Maybe they rated this so as to show others how reductive and backward the logic is.

I find this hub most oppressive, and also offensive. I would be in favour of renaming this "The tragic truth about writing hubs that contradict themselves" Because that is just what this hub does. This insults my intelligence.

You could have written a hub about the vanities of War, or Sins of War. Abuse. Abandonment.

Write about something intelligent and cogent, please.


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Craan 6 years ago from Florida

Well written hub Pratonix! You eloquently elaborated and simply explained the real truth about tattoos and smoking. God said " I Am the Lord Thy God, you shall not have any other gods before Me." This statement must be totally respected regardless of the in times of today's styles and fades. One day we'll all be gone and we'll have to answer to GOD. HE IS THE ONLY TRUE and JUST JUDGE. GOD HELP US!


Tracy 6 years ago

You used quotations. Could you please site your sources?


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kim 6 years ago

OMG I was raised a christian but this crap is exactly why I'm not anymore... it's ridiculous the way they go around preaching nonsense and pointing their fingers at their selective sin of the day.... religion is worst evil of them all. More wars and killings have been caused by religion then anything else. Study the history of religions, THERE IS NO GOD...


Jesus gave me some water officer!! 6 years ago

Lol wow That's why I went from Catholic to atheist...common sense and ratinal thought are destroyed by lies in a little book.


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L a d y f a c e 6 years ago from Canada

I think I just threw up a little in my mouth.

@Ladytron - I have READ the BIBLE twice. TWICE. Through. Completely. Fully. Once as a child with my grandmother, who raised me with a strong hand of faith; second when I was older, to gain a better understanding of it's messages and teachings. The second time came because not one pastor or minister I could find could answer my questions about religion, or about God and the bible. Not one. There is no “well, you should have looked elsewhere” or “maybe they were hard questions”. The truth is that there are few absolutes in religion. If one is ok with this, they follow what they believe in their heart to be true. If they are not ok with this, they too follow what they believe in their heart to be true. It is not the job of one side to judge the other. Many, many, MANY people know this. It seems to me that the only people who don’t know this, are of the Christian faith.

I believe you'll find something about not judging others in the bible. Not condemning others. Not calling others down and labeling others.

Out of the hundreds of “Christians” I know, I can only say that I know 3 or 4 who actually behave on a constant basis like Christians. That’s sad.

Came to say a lot more, but Astra Nomik (love the name by the way) said most of it for me. ~also, thank you for paying attention to spell check and using grammar.

I have two tattoos. One to remember my grandfather by - to those who say I should get a painting to hang, moving around a lot doesn't exactly guarantee that you'll have that precious symbolic item forever - and the other I got when my grandmother, who raised me, passed away. Not that I'm all about the life stories, but something about this 'thread' compels me. The one for my grandfather is a butterfly, as my grandmother explained to me when I was 11 when he passed away that I should think of him as such, whom has flown up to heaven. The other is a group of Clematis, a flower my grandmother had growing up the side of our house my entire life. As I am quite creative and into art, both are my own artwork.

To clarify, I'm not defending my tattoos. I need not defend anything about myself to anyone except the deity who meets me after death. I'm merely justifying the statement that not all tattoos are lewd, or offensive...which are both subjective terms.

To further justify previous statements, I was old enough to know when I got my tattoos what the implications were. The sacrifice of skin realty and what could barely be considered pain, was worth it to me for what I received. They are both on parts of my body that aren’t going to sag like crazy or look disgusting when I’m older. Unlike someone else in this thread suggested, a lot of people who get tattoos, do think.

I have a very successful marriage, worked for many years as a vital part of a worldwide corporation before deciding to stay home with my son, who is a super happy, healthy, jolly little guy. I’ve never committed a crime, not even so much as a speeding ticket or parking ticket, ever, dealt drugs, cheated on anyone, ever, I’m a very friendly, kind, loyal person, and I am quite happy with what I’ve been given, and with who I am.

I’ve switched Christianity brands, from the fundamentalist world of absolutes that don’t add up, to the logical, communicative world of Catholicism. On that note, can one of the self-proclaimed pure Christians tell me which brand of Christianity is the right one? Since they’re all different in some way, they’re not all going to Heaven, right?


gracey jean 6 years ago

Apart from the fact we are not living in the dark ages anymore,I found it interesting that you only looked at one side of your topic.Of course you are entitled to your opinion,but that's about as much as I got out of this-your opinion.


Jeremy 6 years ago

You know Jesus has/or will have a tattoo when he comes back right? (Rev. 19:16) Hhmmmm, I bet you didn't know that! You better know your Scripture before you start to judge!


Miss Jade 6 years ago

Okay, this article was just ridiculous. I'm a non-denominational Christian, am graduating in August with my degree in Digital Security AND I have a handful of tattoos. No, I do not practice witchcraft. I have never been in any trouble in my life, nor am I in any gangs, blah, blah. I have numerous friends who are higher up in the church an have tattoos. So before you judge all people with tattoos, learn more about the culture. You will then see that there are lawyers, police officers, teachers, writers, etc who have tattoos.


Cameron 6 years ago

There are far worse things out there to be worrying about that are ACTUALLY causing proven harm in society. Why pick tattoos? I would assume this author has some kind of personal disposition, narrow-mindedness, or intolerance on this issue that likely caused by a one-sided penchant preconception. I noted that on a Christian level, she (I assume it is she) quoted the Deuteronomy text? Does that mean she follows every part of the law? To be justified by law is to follow all of the law in its entirety and not just the bits that meet your narrow-minded world-view. Seriously how dare you condemn Christ's bride with such flippant disregard for His grace and mercy. I may not know you personally, but will look for you in the “Goat” section when our Lord comes back and wave regretfully.


linda remy 6 years ago

Don't you know that you youreselves are God's temple and that God's Spirit lives in you? If anyone destroys God's temple, God will destroy him; for God's temple is sacred, and you are that temple. Do not deceive yourselves. If anyone of you thinks he is wise by the standards of this age, he should become a "fool" so that he may become wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God's sight. as it is written: "He catches the wise in their craftiness", and again, "The Lord knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile." 1 Corinthians 3:16-20

God is not as a soft and cuddly bunny as we often imagine Him to be, who dwells in forgiving us, loves us so and couldn't imagine punishing us or watching us suffer for our sins. God is Almighty, Sovereign, King of Kings and a Raging Fire who takes orders from no one.

God does demand holiness and purity from the inside as well as the outside. Many of us "Christians" today believe that we can take part in any and every behavior that this world offers, yet the bible tells us "do not be yoked with unbelievers" and "do not conform to the ways of the world".

We are so quick to rip apart anyone who preaches the word of God boldly, without compromising; it was prophesied that it will be like this at the end of age. I feel terribly sorry for you who have chosen to worship men rather than worshiping God. Either God lives and works in you or the Devil does. The Devil is doing an awsome job with you guys, blinding you so that he can bring you along with him into an eternity of suffering and bitterness. WAKE UP and REPENT for the day is near.


justcommenting 6 years ago

Wow- So much diversity here!! Its so great !! This is what we are about-respect for differences. Just a note: I am 51yrs old, female, Christian ministry major specializing in religious studies, masters in clincial counseling. Actually one of the biggest nerd you could meet and I love God. I don't claim to know everything-but obviously there are those who believe they do. And another fyi: I have a beautiful tattoo over my shoulders of red hearts representing my kid and grandkids and chinese characters that says love life.

I have to go with bkukkake post--yes, please you must go right now to the doctor. The writer does need to get immunization shot for babbling incoherently.


Cameron 6 years ago

Many, if not all of us, in the world of tattoo have had Leviticus 19:28 thrown in our faces “You shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor tattoo any marks on you: I am the Lord.” Usually it is meant to condemn either our profession or our obviously decorated skin. So what is a Christian tattooist or tattoo enthusiast to say? Is tattooing indeed defiling the temple of the Holy Spirit? Are we callously ignoring God’s commandment? Let’s shed some light on the subject by looking at it through Scriptural doctrines the law with its conviction, and grace with its freedom. First, by researching references to Leviticus 19:28, we find it refers to a heathen practice meant to invoke the attention of pagan gods and usually by means of cutting oneself to “prove” one’s sincerity (see also Lev. 21:5, Jer. 16:6, and Deut. 14:1). It was an attempt to make one worthy to approach some graven image of a god through self-abasement. God rightly admonished His chosen people not to follow the pagan rituals of such false “religions”. However, some critics will still hold fast to the literal letter of the law and conclude that regardless of its textual meaning, the act of tattooing is still forbidden granted, the entire Bible is indeed the inspired literal Word of the living God, but it also represents a progressive revelation of its Author His nature, His grace and His plan for redemption. Taken in the context of God’s plan to restore mankind into fellowship with Him, the law was given to show us that we could not redeem ourselves by our own efforts. Paul writes in Romans that the law that it was given to reveal sin will justify no man. Only through faith in the free gift of God’s grace, found in the sacrificial blood of Jesus Christ, can man be justified (ROM 3:20-26). In fact, Jesus actually redeemed us from the law and its curse (Gal. 3:13, see also Gal. 3:22). But if one wants to live by the law the Old Covenant then one must keep all of it (Jas. 2:10). Transgressing any part of the law means we are guilty of transgressing all of it. According to Levitical law, we may not eat the meat of rabbits or pigs (Lev. 11:6-7), nor lobsters, crabs, prawns, oysters or clams (Lev. 11:10-12). Hybrid breeding of livestock and mixing linen and wool in fabrics is prohibited (Lev. 19:19). Shaving the sides of your head (being clean shaven) or disfiguring the edges of your beard (trimming) is also forbidden (Lev. 19:27). So if you’ve ever eaten a pork sandwich, dined on Maine lobster, trimmed your beard or worn wool blend suit or have gotten a tattoo you’re guilty under the law! Thank God that He has provided a better way for us to be reconciled to Him! A New Covenant! Romans 5:1-2 says we are justified by faith, given right standing with God through the Lord Jesus Christ (see also Rom. 5:8-11). The entire 5th chapter of Galatians deals with this issue contrasting the law and liberty, the lusts of the flesh and the fruits of the Spirit. Under the New Covenant, all the law is fulfilled in loving God with all your heart, soul and mind and loving your neighbor as yourself (Matt. 22:36-40). Jesus fulfilled the law and now our right standing with God is based upon His right standing. Our righteousness is based upon His righteousness not on the law. Galatians 2:21 puts it this way, “I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness comes through the law, then Christ died in vain.” In Paul’s day there was controversy over whether a believer would be defiled by eating meat that had been sacrificed to idols. Paul addressed this at length. In his understanding, the eating of that meat was neither good nor bad of itself. It was the attitude of the heart that was important. Heart motive either cleansed the meat or condemned the eater. Yet while all things were legal to Paul, not all things were without consequences. (Read the 14th chapter of Romans and I Corinthians, chapter 8.) Paul affirmed the freedom we have in Christ, but he also warned us to beware that our liberty does not become a stumbling block for others. With liberty comes responsibility. A word of caution: do not flaunt your Christian freedom. One man’s freedom can be another’s downfall. Yeah, so what about our body being the “temple” of God? Doesn’t tattooing defile it? Well, let’s look at the context of those scriptures (I Cor. 3:16, 6:19, II Cor. 6:16). In the first instance, Paul is addressing envy, strife and division in the church at Corinth and warning them to be careful of what is built upon the foundation laid down by Jesus lest the temple be defiled. In chapter 6, he refers to sexual immorality as defiling the temple of the body. In II Corinthians Paul warns against tainting the bodily temple with idol worship. Jesus Himself said in Matthew 15:11 that it is what comes out of the mouth of man that defiles him that out of the abundance of the heart the mouth speaks (Matt.12: 34-35). It is the love, purity and faith that come out of your heart that keeps your temple holy or it is the strife, immorality and unbelief within your heart that defiles it. Personally, I don’t see what all the fuss is about. As Christians we should take dead aim at the devil and his unholy minions, not at brothers and sisters in the Lord who happen to be decorated (or those who are not). Paul himself advises us not to engage in foolish disputes and arguments over the law. He calls it useless and unprofitable (Titus3: 9).


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greengypsywolf1 6 years ago from The darkest corner of my own insanity.

Dean Koontz said it best: "You can always count on humans to assert, with great vigor, their God given right to be stupid".

You good sir have just proven him to be profoundly correct in that statement.

I dare say that I enjoy my tattoos even more nowe that I know they will keep vile, hate spewing, prejudice mongers such as yourself at bay.

Good day, and have a nice life.


haha 6 years ago

if anyone says tattoo is bad good 4 them,so they can say also wearing of cloths,earings,plaiting of hair,wearing makeup,shaving their beards,female wearing of trouser, is a sin,bc a part of the bible said so,then i advice the person to go and live with animals.I am a devoted christain, but i take what is needed, and what makes sense,and drop the rest.Who am i to judge,i mean we are all sinners.what you belief works for you.Tatoos are not very pleasant to all,take for example in official place,such as banks,presidential worker etc some of then have tatoos but they aer not exposed in official places.I think here we should be talking about decensy. if want want a tatoo,fine but get a decent looking on.We should stop arguing religion,no religion is the best(even thought 99.9% of people know that some are 100% weird)religion, because their actually no straight forward religion.


Josh 6 years ago

Listen most of my family, peers, and most other people I know have a tattoo. 90% of them are religious and 100% of them aren't mentally unstable, sinners, criminals, or wrongdoers. Why do you think anyone with a tattoo has a problem?


Georg 6 years ago

You are nothing but a stupid, intolerant bible-banger. Your "article" is full of closed-minded ignorance and, yes, hate. Alone how (and in which context) you use the words "bisexual", "homosexual", "lesbianism"...one can only shake their head. Do me a favor, stay at home with your jesus and be happy with your religion...but keep your intolerant opinions to yourself. People like you are the real evil in this world - you are the one being brain-washed, intolerant, hateful and blind.


Georg 6 years ago

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The Bible states over and over that God hates the wicked and loves the righteous. [...]

...disregards God's rules. People who do not realize they are sinning when they get tatoos [...]

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I think God is too almighty to bother with such ridiculous things whether someone gets a tattoo or not. Furthermore, i also think that God should be intelligent enough to know whether someone is actually a good or bad person - independently whether such person has tattos or not.

I would also gladly reject a God who gets mad because someone gets a a tattoo :) What you don't realize that those rules are not "made by God"...but by people - simply stemming from intolerance, insecurities and hate. And God and the Bible is taken as an excuse. Go grow up and get out of the middle-ages. As long as people exist with such absurd and horrid opinions, mankind wont evolve into a species even worth being on that planet.


let it be 6 years ago

I believe in God..and Jesus, and i have a Tattoo. I talk to God on a daily basis he never told me he hated my tattoo....will my tat stop me from going to heaven? im not sure ..ii don't think so but if it does then it does..I don't think God is that petty..but at least living here on Earth I don't fear hell..It would be nice to go to heaven..either way the skin that my tat is on isn't going to either place..And I will have a talk with God later...So live and let live if you don't like tats don't get one..but dont critisze..we dont tell ppl how to decorate their houses so y tell them how to decorate their bodiesour buisiness


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Firetoad99 6 years ago from Huntington Beach

Rhetoric. The Triple R's of the overly religious.ridiculous religious regurgitation. Try having an original thought once in awhile. Make your own decisions about the individual. Show me a child who didn't rebel and you'll also be showing me one with no imagination, ability to see the world for himself, no free will. oops that's a god given right. This post only has authority because of people like me who actually felt obliged , no obligated to respond to it. This is absurd.....once again.....orignal thought...look it up. Thanks for reading im done now.


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louisxfourie 6 years ago from Johannesburg, South Africa

87Pratonix: thanks for the truth, most don’t want to hear about the light because they live in the darkness and love it. Your Body is a temple of the Holy Ghost and not for you to mess with. God will mot be mocked, whatever a man sows, he will reap.

This practice is an open door for evil to come and to destroy lives. Thanks for bringing the truth, yes truth or light will not be taken lightly by the darkness, but God will bless you and all that bless you and He will curse those who curse you, God bless.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

Thanks, Louis, for the encouragement. I was wondering whether there were any Christians at all on HubPages. Hardly anyone (except one or two) stood in my defence. I don't blame them because we are all weak, and no one likes to raise a storm or get into a battle all of a sudden.

Some really vicious remarks I've had to delete. Because they are Satanic. Satan hates the truth.


David 6 years ago

WOW do we have an uninformed & hateful person here, preaching what amounts to simple discrimination & stereotyping towards a group of people whom he/she obviously knows VERY little about. I believe it would be very safe to say that the author has no tattoos, knows nobody or VERY few people who do have them, has no comprehension of the reality behind body art, & has gotten ALL of his/her information about the subject from HIGHLY biased sources which are equally ignorant about ink.

I personally am highly college educated & hold a professional job, in which my usual dress is a business suit, among several dozen co-workers who have about the same life-style. Somewhere between 1/4 & 1/3 of us have tattoos. I have several, my latest being all of 2 weeks old. NONE of us fit even anywhere close to the ridicously immature description of "criminals, drug addicts, sex perverts and social outlaws".

This is the sad side of the wonderful media known as the internet. All too common, you can now find literaly thousands of people who have "researched" a subject for 2 or 3 days, often from such unregulated sites as Wikipedia, and then declared themselves a learned expert on the topic, enough so that they are fully qualified to publish an article explaining all of the "facts" concerning said topic.

And 90% of the time, the ones who do this, clearly show their actual ignorance of what they write about to readers who DO know the subject. A perfect example of this common self-deserved "Open Mouth, Insert Foot" affliction can be found right here in this very article. Some people just never learn how NOT to make themselves look dumb & can't force themselves to only make specific claims on subjects that they actually know something about, rather than subjects they THINK they know something about.

P.S. Your Latin "stigma" claim is also off the mark. I COULD explain exactly what the relationship/non-relationship between English/Latin "stigma" & "tattoo" is, since I have a Masters in Linguistics, specializing in Latin. But it's not worth my time to go into that much detail. I'll just say that what you claimed about the terms is only VERY loosely related .... so much so that it would not be innacurate to say that you are completely 100% wrong. But as I said, I won't bother. It's clear that you need to learn how to properly research an item BEFORE you make written claims about it. Me doing that for you will never lead to you becoming proficient at how to do that.

And besides, it's just SO much more fun to watch people make public fools of themselves by trying to write an article on a subject they have little understanding of.


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greengypsywolf1 6 years ago from The darkest corner of my own insanity.

louisxfourie- according to both your simple minded hate, as well as pratonix my sheer existance is a mockery of your precious God.

If he is so adverse to being mocked why haven't I been struck with holy brimstone blah blah blah, you know I just grew tired of this whole topic mid sentence. Ugh, ingorance, stupidity, and a lack of logical critical thinking does get so boring to read.

Hate on brothers in christ, for it is you hate mongers who spread the true message of christianity; "hate all those different from you" pfffft


blam76 6 years ago

Jesus was a criminal and was marked with stigma, is he going to hell too?!


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louisxfourie 6 years ago from Johannesburg, South Africa

greengypsywolf1:

“according to both your simple minded hate, as well as pratonix my sheer existance is a mockery of your precious God”

My friend! You will definitely here those words again, and then you will regret them, but that is between you and My Holy God, yes - you say I hate you if I see you walking blind to fall from a cliff and want to help you, save your life. If you call that hate, well, then what will you call your rude words, “love” … well work that out for yourself….


ritchey  6 years ago

isn't god a murderer of mankind??????/

didn't he ask the jews to kill the armonites thousands of them so the jews would follow him

didn't god kill 30 million jews through hitler to prove a point ( and i cant have a tatoo BOOO HOOO


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louisxfourie 6 years ago from Johannesburg, South Africa

Christianity is not about religious sectors or doctrines. Its about Jesus, God in the flesh, the Living Word, who humbled Himself to save His beloved creation, that is you, He was crucified and risen, sitting on the right hand of the Father, interceding for you, so you can live forever. If you do not believe, - is it a hateful God - that will pay you death as pay for your sin and life for your obedience unto His law? Do we judge a judge for sending someone to jail or the inmate for his crimes, the inmate of cause! So Life and death is in your hands, chose carefully……!


julia817 6 years ago

We're all entitled to our own opinion, preferences and the like and I would classify tattooing as self-mutilation so I definitely would not go that way. On a more common sense point-of-view and based on what I learned from Anatomy 101, the skin is our biggest organ meant for protection of all the other organs underneath plus help in the secretion of body toxins. What do you reckon happens when you or the tattoo artist poke your skin with a needle and at the same time, squirting ink into the fresh opening? You got it, you're introducing toxins into your system. And the saddest part of all is, because it's "injected" into the skin, it bypasses the liver, the biggest toxin filter in the body and goes directly into the bloodstream.

Sometimes, all one needs is common sense and a little bit of analysis before jumping in with the herd. Just my two-cents on the subject.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

Thanks, Louis. You remind me of Shammah, one of the great warriors of David, in 2 Sam 23.11, 12.

Thanks, Julia. I wish you would write this comment on my other hub, the medical one titled The Dangers of Tattoos.


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L a d y f a c e 6 years ago from Canada

@Julia:

"because it's "injected" into the skin, it bypasses the liver, the biggest toxin filter in the body and goes directly into the bloodstream.

Sometimes, all one needs is common sense and a little bit of analysis before jumping in with the herd. Just my two-cents on the subject."

It seems to me that you're not following your own medicine here, as you leap into the arms of the anti-tattoo brigade. Do you have any citations or conclusive evidence for this statement? Also, where is 'Anatomy 101' taught?

I just thought that a few things could stand to be clarified for you, so that your arguments in the future can be more solid.

Ink is not "injected into the skin" enough to bypass anything. The needle only goes 1mm into the skin, and distributes the ink at the base level of the epidermis, which later settles into the very top layer of the dermis. A far cry from any arteries, veins or organs. The body was also made - by God - strong enough to handle a few needle pokes.

If the ink was as toxic as you say, people with tattoos would be dropping like flies into the hospital or their graves. And yet, they're prevalent.

I would like to cite something from Pratonix's other article:

"One of the most dangerous facts is regarding the use of needles (unhygienic or otherwise) in tattoo application. Not only does this cause tetanus, herpes simplex virus, staph, hepatitis B & C, syphilis, but there have been cases of HIV/AIDS being transmitted through the use of these needles."

If you are going to a professional tattoo artist and not some random person at someone's house, you won't have to worry about the issues that you're so worried about. Tattoo ink does not cause damage to your immune system, or your organs. Every single one of those health issues mentioned can be contracted from a myriad of things that even you do on a daily basis. If you drink from a glass at a restaurant you're knowingly opening yourself up to health risks.

Have you read the side effects of Tylenol lately? Have you researched the long term affects Tylenol can have on the body? I bet you take pain relievers sometimes.

What ever happened to being a Christian? Just living your life as a Christian and leading by example? Not judging other people - not even in your head - living and let live, and being available to the world for Christian guidance and counseling should someone want to live their life like you do? Why does just about every single faction of religion feel that it is their job to tell other people, without being asked, what they're doing wrong, and to forcefully correct the world? I'm quite sure "spread the word of the Lord" doesn't mean "shove the word of the Lord as interpreted by you down the throats of those who do not follow you"


djw 6 years ago

Your view is narrow.

Symbols are just that.

It is man who interprets evil or good.

Should a tattoo of an angel mean one is more likely to engage in acts which, from your limited point of view, is evil?

I find deliverance.

I find sanctity.

I find magic.

I am not tattoo'd. But, believe me - If I find a potent symbol to place on my body, I will wear it with pride and it will endorse MY beliefs, not ones that you have arbitrarily assigned to me.

WHO ARE YOU TO TELL ME WHAT IS OR WHAT IS NOT?


djw 6 years ago

@Ladyface

it is because bastard, white-washed christianity sets individuals with a necessity to "Cleanse" others of evils they've only found within themselves. They feel the need to be a Bastard Jesus - to "save" others in order to be "saved." Rather than tending to one's own herd, so to speak.

if only they could turn themselves inwards and see true Christ Consciousness within.


lisa.bom 6 years ago

Interest hub. I do have a tat. I personally do not think there is anything wrong with tattoos. They are a addition to the way we feel. Nothing religious about it.


tommyj 6 years ago

So if I get a tattoo, it might make me gay?

Oh dear...

Totally amazed that 518 people actually felt inclined to share this hub on facebook. What a sad statement on society.

Congratulations!


god 6 years ago

god does not exist!! the bible is written and invented by men, I can't understand how people are so sad not to have control on their lifes and belive such things, there's no heaven, when we die we die, better do something good with your life instead of reading that nonsense


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UFOROMANTIC 6 years ago from Davis

Get out of the stone age. Sound and fury signifying ignorance.

I'm not going to call you stupid like so many others here are, I'm just going to call you head-splittingly ignorant.

And if you're going to bag on Heathen and Pagan practices, you better get those Christmas trees and mistletoe branches out of your house and FAST.


echo  6 years ago

Seriously minds are like parachutes they only work when they are open, so pull the rip cord and join us in the 21st century you close minded hypocrite


amylong 6 years ago

Religion aside, my personal opinion is that I don't like them. "Painful and Permanent" is my main reason.

I also feel that something I think it wonderful when I'm 20 will not likely be admired so much when I'm 40 or 60. I also think that my body is just fine without that type of adornment.

However, I recognize that others don't feel the same way. Some people have had their tats for years and love them. I don't really understand that.

I have seen lots of brides on their wedding day wishing they didn't have someone's name scrawled across their neck or along their bosom.

I certainly don't think it's demonic or anything like that, but I don't see the need. I don't wear much jewelry either (usually none), so I'm generally not interested in adornment except for special circumstances.

That's the problem I have with tattoos is that once it's there, there's really no choice about whether you want to wear it or not.


gwadm 6 years ago

Wow, what a lot of controversy this article has caused. What I spot is that people have forgotten about judgements and forgiveness. This entire article is one of judgement. Yes, there are no facts to back it up, it is more of one person's opinion. Everyone is entiteld to those, but do not let it anger you. If we are to get out of this 3D matrix we find ourselves in, we must forgive and love one another.

For the record, I have a right arm sleeve of tattoos, a large cross on my upper spine, and two smaller tattoos (which I now hate). I am not a lesbian, nor do I do drink or drugs. I think tattoos are cool, which is the reason I had them done. I care not about when I am older, I am living in the now, and these have the choices I have made.

Remain calm people. Peace and love, H


Colleen 6 years ago

I would agree with the majority of these posts, that the writer appears judgemental. I would also say that the writer is forgetting who should be doing the judging...it is not our job to judge. God will take care of that.

Forget the original post.....my concern is for the many writers...I think many of you are nuts..so worried about some guy with an opinion about tattoos. What about all of the crazy comments that there is no God. Why are we commenting about tattooos...who cares!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What I care about is that our country, the United States of America, founded and rooted in God, is going to the crapper. Soon our country will be run by non-believers. Christians and God fearing people, WAKE UP and focus on what really matters!!!!!


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louisxfourie 6 years ago from Johannesburg, South Africa

Pro 13:2-3 A man shall eat good by the fruit of his mouth: but the soul of the transgressors shall eat violence. He that keepeth his mouth keepeth his life: but he that openeth wide his lips shall have destruction. Let us watch over our lips to speak good and not evil, let us speak faith.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

People say I should not be judgmental. I only spoke the truth in this extremely well-researched article.

For those who say, Judge not, lest ye be judged, I would like to quote an American preacher (who is an icon of American Christian youth). Paul Washer says, "People tell me judge not lest ye be judged. I always tell them, twist not scripture lest ye be like Satan.”


julia817 6 years ago

@Ladyface, like I said, I'm just putting my 2-cents in and not planning to engage into a heated argument about this topic... As for not going to hospitals and dropping like flies - at the moment, maybe yes but wait a few more years or maybe even decades and let's see how it goes... it did take that long for the effect of asbestos inhalation, for example to become a medical issue, didn't it?

My stand is and always will be to stay healthy as much as I can and not be a burden to the taxpayer-paid medical system of this good nation of ours. Case closed.


Tchib 6 years ago

This guy doesn't know his history and made half of that shit up about 'licking blood'. If he thinks it is a sin associating with mankind who HAVE taken the free will they have been granted to get a tattoo, for whatever reason, then he is no better then them. A judgemental hypercritical sinner.

p.s. and a total wanker


Girl 6 years ago

What the hell? Shamanism is not evil or about evil. It's a religious practice that revolves around getting closer to nature and understanding the natural world. My uncle was a Shaman and I read many books about it, it's an beautiful religion.

Bisexuality is not a mental disorder and neither is any form of homosexuality for that matter. And I don't see wany reason why gay people are more likely to tattoo themselves, unless they are more artistic.

Tattoos are about art, memories and self establishment.


JT 6 years ago

"Wherever the Christian faith made its entrance, the tattoo made its exit."

- Well dear misguided, when ever Christianity made its entrance many, many things made its exit. Tattoos are trivial compared to the earth shattering changes Christians made. There have been more killing, rape, torture and genocide in the name of Christ and god than Julius Cesar, both Kahn's and Hitler put together. Entire civilizations and races have been erased by "crusades".

The present pope was a card carrying, goose stepping Nazi cadet. But as someone pointed out, that should not be feared. Christians or at least the misguided bunch and especially the Roman Catholic Church have a much more illustrious career in murder, mayhem and genocide. We should be very afraid if someone points out an individual in a crowd and says; "see that Nazi, he's a Christian" !!

How can an all loving god also hate so much. If he made us in his image then doesn't that show you how weak and biased he is, or is this the Christian way of deciphering God??

I may not be a Muslim lover but what the hell were the crusades? What the hell was the Spanish, French, Dutch and French doing to the world up till about 50 years ago in the name of god? Forced conversions or death; IN THE NAME OF GOD ???!!!

A just, loving god who died for our sins?? Nice.

Mother Teresa did not administer to the sick and dyeing, the poor and hungry until they had agreed to be baptized and say the words "I accept Jesus as my lord and savior". That's not to say she didn't feed the hungry but after they were stripped of their social identity. But what do most of you who have never seen or heard of the rest of the world other than the good ‘ol US of A know. Be safe in your Macworld and talk about tattoos and Christianity. Christianity IS a religion that was distilled from heathen religions in Asia and Europe. Where does the Bible talk about Priests or Nuns, a Vatican embossed in gold and popes riding in bullet proof limos and private jets. Lost master pieces formerly owned by German-Jews and Swiss bank accounts.

The Church apologized to Galileo, 400 years after it had tormented him for stating that the world was NOT the center of the universe and that we were a globe and not flat. How many more amazing scientific, artistic and brilliant minds have been lost for eternity because of the Church??!! How many brilliant and innocent women were put to death during the Inquisitions? Has the Church apologized to women? The Church put to death all women that were “evil and ugly”, so basically we can be sure that all put to death were innocent. Men who are sexually frustrated torturing and killing thousands and thousands of women and watching it, ……. Suddenly Dr. Hannibal Lecture seems like a boy scout?

Yeah so I guess Tattoos must be bad.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

JT, you are confusing the Christian faith (the faith of the Bible) with the Roman Catholic Church. There's a world of difference.


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SaiKit 6 years ago from Toronto

@ JT

The Roman Catholic Church has a pagan origin. It's pure Babylonian in the disguise of Christianity.

It obeys nothing in the Bible.

For thousands of years, they lock the Bible in monastery. They have burned many many Bible believing Christians.

The Inquisitions have been used to kill Bible reading Christians. Because the Bible would challenge their authorities.

BTW, ancients people were not dumb. They knew the earth was round... if you read the history properly. It's a straw man to keep saying that all religious and ancient people at the time refuse to admit the globe was round.

The states, the queens, and the kings finally have had enough of the RCC because it grew too big, so some of them invented their own Protestant Churches (Anglican and Church of England), and some of them support the existing Protestant Churches.

The Protestant still have more resemblance to Roman Catholic than the Bible. For example, the pastors function like RC priests than the elders in the Bible. True elders preform miracles, expose darkness, battle Pharisees (i.e. Roman Catholic and Pastors), and get killed

The Christians religions hate it when the believers find out what they Bible really says.

Protestant has involved in killings too.

Bible believing Christians have been killed all day long, even to this day in different corners of the world.

If you want to see what real Christians are like, look no further than your own founding Fathers. The Mayflower pilgrims, and maybe the Anabaptist.

The Christians religions hate them. They were the ones who carry on with the Bible, even though they were not written in the history nor the wikipedia.

When people think about Christianity, they often look at the RCC and the Protestant, but the nameless men and women who died for their faith were forgotten.


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SaiKit 6 years ago from Toronto

For more info about Roman Catholic and Babylonian religion, please see: http://bible-verses-insights.com/2010/11/early-chu...

The very presence of the Roman Catholic actually testified that the Bible is so true in its depiction of human sinful nature, and the ills and evil of the Babylonian religion. (See Revelation on the MOTHER OF HARLOT. THE GREAT BABYLON...)

P.S.

Quote Pratonix:

" What Leviticus 19.27 is talking about is ‘rounding the corners of your head’ and ‘marring the corners of your beard’. These were heathen practices. One such practice was to cut the hair so that the head resembled a celestial globe. It is called a ‘tonsure’, a practice of heathens to honor their gods. "

Look at the medival monks of Roman Catholic! The rounded haircut is tonsure!


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darntoothysam 6 years ago from Burnsville, MN

Pratonix: Get over yourself, and keep your religion to yourself. Seems like a sin to pass judgment on any person that happens to have a tattoo!


don't point fingers 6 years ago

The Bible clearly states that God looks at the heart and man at the outward parts (paraphasing) - also if you are going to hold people feet to the Book of Lev. be prepared to include all the book that I am assuming YOU live by - do you wear clothing of mixed fabric? what's in your diet? what about hair dying, finger nail polish, etc.


KMC  6 years ago

Who cares what Christians, or any other religious cults think anyway? Religion in general is losing followers by the day, and tattooing is growing at a very fast rate. Science is only a few years away from disproving all of Christianity completely (as if it has not already). Tattoos have very little to do with religion. Even if they did, do you think anyone would care if "the bible" thought that it was a sin to get tattooed? Haha! I feel sorry for anyone who blindly follows any religion.

Do people actually think there is some magical kingdom in the sky where you go to live for eternity after death? Oh wait, you have to believe in Jesus and pray for him to forgive your "sins" in order to go to Heaven. lol!


FROST 6 years ago

This body is just a flesh-made mantle. Don't take the Bible words so literally. I'm very disapointed to see so many 'Christians' that don't know how to really read the bible, and have a distorted vision about God. They find something on the Bible, and start spamming in to whoever has a tatoo. So, if we can't impose any harm to our own body, wearing earings is a sin. God hates sin, God doesn't hate the sinners. God loves all of his children.

But obviously, what the author of this text is intending to do, is to call some attention, and criticise some one.

Simple as that, criticise. As a student of Psicology, I have the right to say that it demonstrates low self-steem, and little interest for his own life.

God won't forbid anyone to enter in heaven, because we made a draw on a body the WON'T BE THERE WHEN WE REACH THE JUDGEMENT.

I believe in God, I love him, I have a tatoo (a draw of parkour, the sport I practice).

False christians nowadays are like 'HOHO I'M NOT SINNER HOHO I'M GOIN TO HEAVEN, YOUR GOIN TO HELL HOHO GOD LOVES ME MORE THAN YOU!!!11'

Stop being so arrogant and hipocryte, God loves all of his children independent of their choices, and He won't leave us because we sinned, He will help us to find our way towards Him.

Therefore, only God can point me my way, not you.

No further.


KFC 6 years ago

Hahahahahahaha 4th grade teacher!!! My 3rd grader can spell better than you...if you need a sub sometime he could help out, just sayin :)


FROST 6 years ago

Well, maybe this is related to the fact that I'm from Brazil? If you can't destroy the arguments, please don't attack the spelling as an attempt to evade them.


qwerty 6 years ago

nope....THER is no GOD...


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

Okay, for the more decent-minded critics of this hub, let's agree on this one thing:

"Fake people have real tattoos; real people have fake tattoos."

Fake tattoos can be washed away with water (and maybe a bit of soap), just as your sins can be washed away only with the Blood of Jesus Christ.

Real tattoos are forever. Even laser treatment wont work. Ask Kimberly Vlaminck. The least she can do is to get a face transplant.

If you're still crazy about tattoos, and want to look as tatty as ever, you could end up looking like Rouslan Toumaniantz, the modern Dracula. (P.S. He's from Romania, like his illustrious predecessor.)

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The Fallen Angel 6 years ago

First of all why is it that when something of a once taboo nature is brought into retrospect why is it always labeled as evil or demonic? I mean seriously look the truth of the matter is that all religions are built on the same principles don't believe me then start doing your research

as far as god goes with tattoos this is all i have to say. With all the things in this world that have gone wrong where murderers and rapists can pray like hell on there death bed and be forgiven for there sins and pass beyond that gate.

If this is your benevolent caring and loving god that you say will judge me for the ink beneath my skin then i say to you that he is no god of mine.

Tattoos are a shield for the soul. They can act as a window to the world to share what you truly are or they can act as a shield to protect us from you arrogant fools who are too wrapped up in religion to see beyond the surface


bibleIsGod'sWord 6 years ago

and in these dark days men will blaspheme His name and relish in their iniquities, claiming independence, equality, and acceptance, and tolerance. ANd they will laugh and mock the name of the Lord, for they know no fear of Him. and He will bring plagues and great disasters to them and still they will curse His name. But on that glorious day, after the abomination of desolation has sat in the temple, pretending to be god himself, the glory of the Lord will shown to all. And the seas will give up their dead, including Sheol, and the living and the dead, all whoever have been and whoever are, will stand before the great tables of judgment and the books shall be open. and any whose name is not written in the Book of Life wil be cast into the lake of fire with the Beast, the Devil and Hades.

what the author of this post and your Creator are trying to tell u is that tattoos r dark things meant to twist you and corrupt u. Having a tattoo will not get u sentenced to hell. Being born will. U are bound for hell the moment u breathed ur first breath. That is why your Creaot sent His Son into a flesh body, to die, with innocent blood, to pay the cost of your sins, so that you may believe in this and receive, thereby changing your life, claiming your salvation(which, by the way, has already been paid for, its free, why not take it?) and saving you from the second and eternal death which all of us, myself included are bound to because of our sin. Christ breaks that bond. Debt paid, no more sentence. Hallelujah!

and to those that scoff at this, i pray that u find Truth before you die. If i am wrong, no big deal, we all die. If i am right, I wouldn't want to be you.


Zeno Sonik 6 years ago

There are an immense amount of people here that are FREE OF ALL SIN!

Congratulations to you all! You're truly obliging Jesus's words

"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone" by throwing

every stone your tiny little minds can, aren't you?

Good for you all! You've earned it right?

I for one am unworthy to be in the presence of

such an enormous abundance of those who have

won the sinless challenge!

Of all the false Gods I have put before him & all the ways I have

polluted this temple of God that is my body, I will share only a few.

Seeing as how Gods words are to be obeyed and seen in black & white,

I feel it my duty to confess them now.

1.The God of gossip

2. The internet is the Devils tool and I get on it quite often.

3. I put all kinds of chemicals that are in food into my body

that I didn't even know were there all my life I guess.

Someone just told me that today, so I guess I'm damned to hell

even though I was ignorant of the chemicals even being in the food or water

I was ingesting. Ignorance of the Law is no excuse, so I must pay!

4. My internet URL ,phone number, social security number, drivers license

are all marks of the beast too? Lord help me!

Especially Lord, please help us who aren't murdering in yours or anyone else's name

and do our best to live by the golden rule, please save us from the fanatical idiots who judge & condemn all day long in your name without taking one single second

to look in the mirror at themselves and realize they are not walking on water

either!

Amen!


BibleIsGod'sWord 6 years ago

im a sinner. but i dont quite catch ur post. but i like it.


BibleIsGod'sWord 6 years ago

sorry, just cant help it. theres so many posts on here, trying to read as many as possible. i believe, based on Scripture, that having a tattoo can be forgiven by Christ. there is only one unforgiveable sin which is denying the voice of the Holy Spirit when brought before the "lamb who speaks as a dragon". But these bodies we have DO matter to the Lord. they are to be holy. and when we die, IF we go to heaven, we will be in a physical body that is more real than this one. It will be a spiritual body without fault. If u have a tattoo and u go to heaven, i would think ur tattoo would vanish, i dunno. but we do not "fly off into the sky". if u read the Scripture, heaven comes down to earth and stays on earth for all eternity:think about it. Why would God go through all the work to create this place, just to destroy it? He will ravage this place, while we're in this dimension. but when the space tim continuum is over, we will remain on earth and heaven will be here and it will be as if sin never was.

all this is from Scripture, "The Holy Bible"


Peace 6 years ago

We are the constantly manifesting, evolving co-creation of the interconnected universe. The web of life. The energy which permeates throughout everything.

To judge a person because they choose to have a tattoo, is, in return judging yourself for being a living, functioning part of the universe.

Let go of your arrogant, judgemental perspective of what "The Holy Bible" (a story book) says, and learn to follow the truth of your heart. Open your eyes and take the blinkers off; you are an integral part of the community of humanity, and we can all connect to create a world based on open-hearted interactions and non-judgment...

Blessed Be ALL Beings

We are all Loved EQUALLY

Be the LOVE we ARE


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Valentine Logar 6 years ago from Dallas, Texas

I am dumbfounded by the level of ignorance displayed in this HUB.

Many people Christian and otherwise have chosen to tattoo, it is not a sign they are deviant, not a sign they are sinful. There is no qualified medical or physiological evaluation of those who choose to tattoo that would support your statements. Site your sources or retract them, qualified would mean current sources by the way.

While it is true Leviticus is quoted somewhat accurately and The Christ does state he did not come to undo the Laws (Exodus, Leviticus, Judges) but as fulfillment of them, you do not get to pick and choose which apply. If you wish to live by the Torah you should first learn to read the law in the original language thus you will not fall into the trap if misinterpretation so many English speakers do. Then you must be prepared to live by all the laws, not just those that make you comfortable or those that you believe "apply" today.

Ready to kill your brother for planting crops incorrectly?

How about taking your disobedient son to the town gates to be stoned to death?

Or selling your daughter into slavery, what do you think a good price might be?

Yes, all of those are there. Better start growing your beard out, it is against the Law to cut it. The list goes on and on. You need to be ready for it.

Tattoos? Really? I have several, I am neither criminal or deviant. I am well educated, married, a mother and a grandmother. I work hard, am a homeowner. My personal beliefs are my own. Tattoos, they are a personal expression, a dedication, a good-bye to loved ones, a celebration. What they are not is an entry to demons or an invitation to evil.


Jewel 6 years ago

For you who started this Article on hubpages, I would like to point out that the title "The Truth about Tattoos" is in error. Most of what your wrote is judgements and belief(s) you arrived at. Perhaps this post would have been more accurately titled "The beliefs and interpretations I have about tattoos coming out of the beliefs of what one person or several people have shared in regards to what they believe about the history of tattoos"...or something thereof. I can imagine that you get the point. Jewel


Alan 6 years ago

Who is writing this crap?


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Novembernice 6 years ago from Minnesota

Well I wouldn't go so far as to say that "The Truth about Tattoos" OR the responders comments to this feed regarding their beliefs and opinions is "crap". I would lean more towards describing it as creativity in expressing beliefs and opinions according to one's own life experiences.


Deremna 6 years ago

Okay, okay.. You got me! Ever since I got my Super Mario Bros. tattoos, I have been transformed into a baby eating prostitute. Please. It's this kind of thinking that makes me very happy that I don't care what others think of me. Those closest to me love me for who I am, tattoos and piercings. And if there is a god and he wants to send people off to hell then fine. I wouldn't want to be in that kind of heaven anyway. Also, I have seen a lot of followers with cross and otherwise religious tattoos so does he consider them a bunch of sacreligious heathens, too? No wonder humans can't help but murder eachother: We're apparently all convinced that just because someone is different, they're inherently evil.


Courtney S. 6 years ago

I have a tattoo that I got when I was 15, a cross that has Philippians 4:13 written on it.

I plan on getting my second, much simpler with only Philippians 1:20 inked on, sometime next year, hopefully.

Some people are just retarded. :)


Manuel 6 years ago

I was 30 years in jail and I never get any tattoo in my body. This is stupid to do.


David 6 years ago

One last post from me, since this has turned into a hate-fest, which I don't typically partake in. But this entire discussion seems to have devolved into 2 specific sides .... both equally narrow-minded.

On one side you have a group of people who CALL themselves "Christian", but seem to enjoy simply telling everyone else how wrong they are. And on the other side are the people who hate Christians .... or perhaps ALL religions in general.

I have little to say to the latter group, since I'm 99% sure they are going to hate me anyway, regardless of my words. (I am Christian, Pentecostal specifically. For those who don't know what they are, look it up. We are a fairly "strict" denomination. But I'm not a perfect Pentecostal & never will be.) But I will say to this group that as far as I'm concerned, you can live & believe whatever you want to. For receiving that type of respect from me, I expect the same from you. But it's YOU who has to decide whether you're willing to give it. And that's all I have for that latter group.

But for the FIRST group, the ones who SHOULD be my brothers, my words are even fewer. The attitude that many of you are exhibiting here does NOT represent me, nor most other true Christians I know (alot). We don't preach that type of hate. So don't include ALL Christians in your words here. You are speaking only for yourself.

Now, just to throw this last part in. I'll reiterate to the OP exactly what my first post stated. Your ignorance of the body art culture is extreme. Please learn something about your subject next time BEFORE you write an article about it.

Have a nice day.

P.S. God Loves You.


Josh with tattoos 6 years ago

One of the many downsides to the internet, is that it gives self righteous, religious idiots the open floor to express their moronic views on trivial things such as tattoos.

ALL RELIGIONS ARE FLOORED AND IF YOU BELIEVE IN INTELLIGENT DESIGN YOU'RE OUT OF YOUR MIND.


Cornelius Crosson 6 years ago

I was Ordained as a Jesuit Priest 37 years ago. I got my Celtic Cross tattoo 10 years ago. My question- why do PROTESTANT Christians ( some of the youngest religious cults in the world), feel they can dictate to everyone?


God 6 years ago

when your dead your dead nothing els.


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SaiKit 6 years ago from Toronto

Re: Cornelius Crosson

Look at the history of Roman Catholic, and you will know who has been in the business of dictating.

Merely writing a hub that express one's belief won't dictate anyone.

No wonder your title has "Jesuit" in it. They used to be police of Catholic to inspect one's belief and doctrine, to see if they are pure Catholic.

Seem like you and your rank are still in that business


Daniel Juan Ortega Sanchez 6 years ago

LIVE AND LET LIVE. If you want a tattoo, first know what youll get, find a great artist, then DO IT. If you dont want one thats cool too, but be quick to judge the decsions of others. Ive been through alot I thought Id NEVER get a tattoo then on my 40th birthday my friend bought me one and I got it that same day. Now Im thinking of getting a full back pose. I have the ink bug. Two things I will say aloud to all is...??? ????, ??? ???? ?????? ??? ????? ???? ???? ??


Daniel Juan Ortega Sanchez 6 years ago

LIVE AND LET LIVE. If you want a tattoo, first know what you'll get, find a great artist, then DO IT. If you dont want one that's cool too, but be quick to judge the decsions of others. Ive been through alot I thought Id NEVER get a tattoo then on my 40th birthday my friend bought me one and I got it that same day. Now Im thinking of getting a full back pose. I have the ink bug. Two things I will say aloud to all is...??? ????, ??? ???? ?????? ??? ????? ???? ???? ??


FROST 6 years ago

Well, at least the author got what he desperated needs: attention.


lissy 6 years ago

wow.that's why politics and religious..cant be argue but uss we still do it and anyways

i love God an God does exist and all ooff you that dont believe pray directlly to God one night with the lights of and put all ur strenth in it like if ur really talking to someone verry powerfull...and tell him to guide you by the right way an to give you pruff in your dreams and one way or another he will respond you.....jest have faith


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yankeeintexas 6 years ago from Lubbock, Texas

I had a point in my life when I had wanted to get a tattoo. I just so happened to bring it up to a doctor on day and he about flipped! He told of the different infection that I could get after to tattoo was done. He also spoke to me about possible allergic reactions that people have been known to have from the ink being injected into their skin. I have also heard psychiatrists speak about mental disorders associated with different styles of tattoos. Long story made short if you "Non-believers" don't what we "BELIEVERS" have to say just go and talk to your doctor!


Nadine 6 years ago

Amusing. Disturbing and amusing.


Mother, Artist, and Human 6 years ago

Seriously, this article is completely ridiculous. It actually makes me a bit sick. The Author obviously has not done any research whatsoever. This is just biased, ignorant, and demeaning. Sounds to me like one of those people that makes the real Christians look bad.


Mother, Artist, and Human 6 years ago

Oh, and in response to yankeeintexas...

A decent tattoo studio is as clean as a doctor's office. You just do your research before you get one done anywhere.

As far as allergic reactions go... duh. Some people are allergic to chocolate, it doesn't mean we should all stop eating it.

And the mental disorder thing... yeah, maybe if the tattoo is of a disturbing image or something of the like. I don't see how getting an image that is spiritual, has personal meaning, or is just beautiful art can be seen as the product of mental disease. Nope, sounds like BS to me.

I have two tattoos currently. One is spiritual, the other has personal meaning. Both are beautiful: Celtic Tree of Life (symbolizes the connection between Heaven and Earth), and a heart that is two pieces as one.


devilskissx 6 years ago

what a load ov crock!!!!!


Mas 6 years ago

This is stupid


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IntimatEvolution 6 years ago from Columbia, MO USA

I do not make the connection, but I don't have a tattoo either. Never really cared for them.


Quenton 6 years ago

If the author doesn't believe in tattoos that's fine, don't get a tattoo. That doesn't mean the rest of us non-christians should be against it. I was raised Catholic my whole life and I agree with a lot of the moral values. I don't agree with the idea that the church must run around force feeding thier ideals down everyone else's throats.


OMG 6 years ago

Oh no, I have tattoos!!! I'm gay, satanic, demented, in a gang, a sailor, worship the dead, schizophrenic, and stupid!!! Gosh I wanna be a christian, now how am I supposed to judge everyone else???


renpix 6 years ago

I could only slog my way through a third of these comments, but to add my two cents:I'm so glad that my parents (both of whom had religion drummed into them) were kind enough to teach me that GOD is unknowable. The Bible (and the Koran and the Book of Mormon and any other religious text) were written by GASP! human beings. Therefore creating GOD in man's image. Using the written LAW of God to control fellow human beings- it makes me want to go hug a tree.


mmm 6 years ago

worst article ever -_____-


DJ 6 years ago

The author is absolutely correct. I am in the medical field and have seen 10's of thousands of low income patients and I would guess that 80% of them have tattoos. I know these people very well and the ONE thing they have in common with each other is LOW SELF ESTEEM. They are MOSTLY below average intelligence, poor, lack self-discipline, have anger issues, have trouble adhering to society rules, smoke, and are fat. People get tattoos for the same reason they smoke or do drugs, they think it's "cool" or "fun". Most of these people I'm talking about have MULTIPLE tattoos, not just one or two small ones. There is a difference. But it is definitely a self esteem issue. The need to feel "prettier" or "cooler" or something. Same reason why people wear jewelry, get contacts, get braces, wear facial hair, piercings, etc. It's ALL a way to feel better about yourself but tattoos are for the most part PERMANENT! And they still, and probably will always, carry a negative connotation that implies an underlying psychological problem. And the more blatant the tattoos, the more severe the psych problem usually is. And there are only VERY FEW exceptions to people with tattoos. VERY FEW. People who don't believe this either have very little experience in the area or are just sadly not smart enough to know the difference.


Alseai 6 years ago

Adorn yourself with all the graffiti you wish,God probably doesn't care. Otherwise,he'd have made you better looking to start with. A Ferrari doesn't need whitewalls and chrome.


Chris  6 years ago

You know the best thing about you Bible beaters out there? You will all know that when I say "burn in hell", that there is a real disgust that I have for you. Get off your high horses you Sunday morning Christians. How about you wake up tomorrow in the 21st century. Tattoos are a form of personal expression. I appreciate hearing about historical or medical facts but keep your booming voice in the sky personal beliefs to yourself.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

Alseai, you said a Ferrari doesn't need whitewalls and chrome. Does it mean that a junk car needs a coat of paint? (A tired body needs to be spruced up with tattoos?)


mathew 6 years ago

the writer of this hub is fucking retarded, i dont know about you but im more worried about this guy than an authority hating, homoexual, bipolar, schizophrenic tattoo wearer. he sounds more like a superstitious shaman than anyone else accused.

Quote:

"No, tattoos are not ‘body decoration’; they have nothing to do with fashion and beauty; but rather they are sinister signs of moral decay and infiltration by evil spirits into modern society." **facepalm**


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ginosblog 6 years ago from Florida

You only have one body and your body is your Temple. Love it or abuse it...it's your to do as you like, but when you grow up and get tired of those tattoos have fun removing them. LOL


cherie 6 years ago

I know people who didn't graduate from high school, lived a rough and rebellious life and have never gotten tatoos. I have one and I DID graduate. Mine is sacred because it's my mother's name, a memorial offering. S-t-n is not why I got it. God loves even those who are judgemental and confused like yourself. There's room for all of us in God's heart.


mikehk 6 years ago

Bible priests inhaled incense and other not so 'lung friendly substances'....burning animals in close qtrs and breathing that in for days at a time...

God put a mark on the forehead of Adam's son....tatoo...mark...hell...led lighting...

marking bodies is not uncommon....

If one hears:

'dont place a mark on one's body (I wonder if surgery scars are a sin)...how far do you take it?

Dont kill (very strait forward)....yet depending on the 'spirit' in which its done...is it ALWAYS wrong? and does it include animals...or plants?

Look...unless your tattoo says: The devil should unseat God I wouldn't worry about it

if marks on ones body are a sin.......then I wonder why so many refer to the scars of Jesus as holy....look, a mark is a mark....depends on the spirit in which its put on...and the message that is intended...Jesus himself was not proud of those marks...he even showed them off to make a point.

Besides.....in the old testiment, God commands the killing of thousands of women and children...babies included......I suppose that's holy by todays standards as well?

God cares about what's inside....in the end...Stop focusing on insignificant things...and get some 'balls' and focus on the real issues. Adorn yourself outside however you like.

Last I heard...Jesus has marks on his body...but Satin has beautifully clear skin...

...do you think my ink is visible in 'hell fire'.....just curious..


mikehk 6 years ago

...Jesus himself was not proud of those marks...he even showed them off to make a point.

meant to say:

...Jesus himself WAS proud of those marks...he even showed them off to make a point.

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besides...if my body is a temple....It SHOULD BE ADORNED on the outside to indicate what you will find on the inside.....(never saw a temple that wasn't adorned on the outside....God is very specific about adorning his holy of holies)... and the marks on Jesus are indicative of his life's journey...

haircuts, tattoos, and other adornments.....are ONLY prohibitted based on the intended message/content and not by the mere act of having them done...

All of God's commandments are based on content and message...and he trusts that we will use good judgement in applying his commands...(otherwise, the Bible would only be about 10 pages long...and we wouldn't need to understand, cause we wouldn't need to use judgement..just blindly obey).

The writer of this thread would say tattoos are a sign of moral decay...

suppose my tattoo says: love Jesus with all your heart...

...yeah....I'm just a demon leading the sheep astray (sheep that are generally branded to show who their owner is)...

the writer of this thread has some attachment issues I think, that cause him to find solid and safe perameters with which to live his life safely...in a narrow tube of ignorance I like to call 'the hollow TP tunnel of misinformation...two such TP tubes adorn his eyes like Star Wars inspired blinders...so he can only see what he wants...not what is...haha...just kidding man, don't cry...


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louisxfourie 6 years ago from Johannesburg, South Africa

Job 11:3 Will your idle talk reduce men to silence? Will no one rebuke you when you mock?

Jer 5:14 Therefore this is what the Lord God Almighty says: "Because the people have spoken these words, I will make my words in your mouth a fire and these people the wood it consumes.

Psa 35:16 Like the ungodly they maliciously mocked; they gnashed their teeth at me.

Ecc 5:2 Do not be quick with your mouth, do not be hasty in your heart to utter anything before God. God is in heaven and you are on earth, so let your words be few.

Deu 32:29 If only they were wise and would understand this and discern what their end will be!


Alex 6 years ago

As soon as I saw that there was even the slightest hint of religious belief systems attached to this article I skipped down here. Get a grip. Stop believing that rot. Enjoy life. And let other people do what they want as long as they're not harming anyone else.


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blackhatworld 6 years ago from Belize

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littlebitofloveplease 6 years ago

@Pratonix

You have taken quite a verbal onslaught here Pratonix, definitely ruffled some feathers and I like that you can stand up and say that is what I believe, shows some conviction.

I am non religious, I have tattoos, I listen to punk music, I drink quite heavily sometimes, I take drugs now and again, I swear, I surf and I probably do a lot more that may offend you that I dont even realise.

Now we could be 2 people somewhere on this planet that resent each other because of our views. OR, and I'm just throwing this out there, we could be 2 people who have different opinions who are willing to discuss our feelings and opinions openly without feeling like we are having to defend our own. If you have grievances with someone elses view point it is because you have not the mental capacity to engage with them. You are not confident enough with your own beliefs to agree to disagree.

There is no need and indeed no time in this world of ours, which is struggling to hold us all, to have petty grievances with your fellow humans. Appreciate what we have around us and why not put our energies into helping future generations to enjoy what we have.

Just a thought, and if you want t try something spiritual....go learn to surf! It will change your life!


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Cheeky Girl 6 years ago from UK and Nerujenia

Oh dear, I am not one bit impressed by this hub. Everyone is entitled to have their opinion, but this hub is purely an opinion piece.

I just can't swallow the core argument that people with tattoos can be equated with the things you mentioned. There is no evidence. It simply plays to the audience.

I know people with tattoos, and none are anything like what you describe or claim. The core assertion in here is based almost entirely on just one thing - fear. Fear is a weapon, and can breed ignorance. I am a christian and I find this sadly disappointing. If Christianity is to teach us anything, it has to be first taken seriously and not be reduced to a joke, and subject to spurious claims. Otherwise people will just react accordingly.

Try putting an opinion survey on the site, so people who agree or disagree can have a vote on it. That will sort things out soon enough. However, I think you won't bother. And as for your other hubs, and my chances of reading them, I too simply won't bother. When I saw the facebook votes, I thought reading this would teach me something. I was mistaken. Thank you.


jayjay 6 years ago

If you made a gift for a loved 1 that you put all your heart into, to make the most beautiful n thoughtful of gifts, to not watch them enjoy it but to watch them slowly destroy it day by day until it was gone, how would you feel?

Now think of the gift of life you are given by the big man upstairs, God and the many ways that we take chances with it.

Whether it be thrill seeking for another adrenaline rush, using any drug for recreational use, smoking which is said to be the slow suicide this is one where we know we are damaging ourselves, over indulgence of alcohol when was the last time you made a good decision while intoxicated, daily unhealthy diet choices with no concern for your health and the many others that can be prevented.

Now, just be cause we have all dabbled in at least 1, if not more or all, doesn't mean we're evil or haters of God. Nor does this mean that God hates us, what it does mean is we are not following Gods word. Let's not fret, this is not the end for us imperfect sinners.

For most people they may just disregard any of this and think if I am not harming anyone just let me be. But they are harming someone...themselves 1 of Gods children. What is 1 to do?

Pray, pray for help in making the right decisions, pray for forgiveness of your wrong decisions, pray for the strength to begin/keep doing what God wants us to do, have daily conversations with God, He is our creator and friend, give him thanks for everything you have that really matters.

1 thing I do know, there is only 1 true religion. We all know which 1 that is...right...right hello doesn't anyone know? Nope, but a lot think theirs is....

I will always try to do my best for God, even when I falter I will do my best to get back up and keep on trucking for the big guy upstairs.

"it is better to keep your mouth shut and let them think you are a fool, than open it and remove all doubt"


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AngelaTMadden 6 years ago from Luzerne, Pennsylvania

Really?? How wonderful your life must be that the thing you find so abhorrant, the thing you feel you must tell the world, shout from the mountainside, is that tattoos are bad?? GROW UP and get some real problems. If you don't want a tattoo, DON'T GET ONE, but don't stand on your soap box and yell about other peoples way of expression. For most people, tattoos have NOTHING to do with religion. Ridiculous.


Noelle 6 years ago

One question: if the Old Testament is still valid, are you Christians still expected to stone your disobedient children>


Dustin Kennedy, Ph.D 6 years ago

I'm a Clinical Psychologist, and there is absolutely no correlation between having tattoos and having a mental disorder. Also, homosexuality is not a mental disorder. It's been proven to be inherited genetically. This hub is grossly oversimplified.


Mikehk 6 years ago

By this threads argument, the chapel that Leonardo adorned with ink is a sin

Author,

Spreading false teachings is akin to a grave sin....scare tactics that keep people in unhealthy fear of God....is also a sin. You are a false 'wanna be' teacher, who distorts

Why and what message is how God would judge.... Not the mere fact of having a tat

Btw....try a new book for a change.... I think it's called The New Testiment (then you'll see you no longer have to sacrifice you sheep)


Paul 6 years ago

I am a Christian myself who follows Christianity - not this Fundamentalists version of Western "Churchianity" founded in bigotry.

I just got a fish tattoo on my shoulder the other day to remind myself that I follow Christ and not neurotic abusers like the guy who wrote the article.

I've been around long enough to know and spent enough time around different denominations and pretentious so called "believers" to make this assertion - " I think this guy more than likely is a sexual offender or wife beater". Anyone who blogs pure out of context old religious law to make a modern point and oppress is a total control freak who more than likely does other things to hurt people other than condemn them and shame them on the Internet.

What are we to do with him? Pray for the poor soul! After all we are called to pray for lost religious souls who have zeal with no substance, and to pray for our enemies.

This man loves contention - he himself is mentally ill. He needs our love.


Unimpressed 6 years ago

Simply put, and I know its wrong of me to say it this way, but I don't particularly give a damn. The author of this article can only be described as a Nazi.

Oh, and please don't breed, spare the world your genetic malfunction.


Jaz 6 years ago

When was this article written? the 1800's ?


mircea 6 years ago

you freakin racist prolly live in some communist country at the end of the world, that you associate tattoos with criminals and others..


Hmm.. 6 years ago

Well, I am not going to get into the debate over right or wrong but just want to state my opinion of the article. I believe what the writer stated to be true from a social aspect of modern America up until the 1990's. Before World War 2 I think that tats were probably considered a taboo in most cases (not including tribal art form, I think tribal art is another topic because tribal art form probably had various different meanings) but I think that sort of thinking started to slip when many in the armed forces started getting tats...remember the older men with those old green inked tattoos? Then came the skull and eagle tats that bikers and rock stars started sporting in the 1970's and 1980's. Then the 90's came, many young people started to get tats of more things than the stereotype portrayed, things like panthers, butterflies, symbols with meanings and such until the 2000's hit and I believe that then tats really became mainstream, popular and more artistic than ever...just watch LA Ink. Tats are so popular now that it seems like at least every other person has a tattoo now. Right or wrong? I guess that's in the eye of the beholder.....


Jasmin 6 years ago

The greatest triumphs of Satan was and still remains to be turning man one against the other (how dare anyone be as vain as to assume that they can understand and translate the mind and thoughts of God - that are not Jesus Christ, that is) second, Stealing the hope of mercy from those that are looking toward the light, but are not quite there yet - These people are many and making them feel as though all is lost and they are going to hell no matter what they do for a tattoo (or any other sin for that matter). How dare anyone tell me what MY GOD is thinking about me?! Hope of Mercy is NEVER lost, no matter what you do, did, or are destined to do. Satan wants you to lose hope because the moment you do you give him jurisdiction. I love God. I have a tattoo and unfortunately I have done worse things than get a tattoo, but I REFUSE to let self righteous, holier than thou people make me believe that I am now Satans'. I claim my right to mercy, I claim that no matter what I have done God loves me still. I love my children whether they become lawyers or murderers and I only birthed them; how much more so does God love me that he CREATED me. - and yeah, I can quote scripture in my favor also: "For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life."


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MeonlyoneIcanBe 6 years ago

"For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that WHOSOEVER believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." -I'm sorry, but I didn't see the words "whosoever except those that..." I'm pretty darn sure that meant everyone.


zinkee 6 years ago

luke 23:26 jesus says. these are the words which ispake unto you while i was yet with you.that all things must be fulfilled,which were written in the law of moses,and in the prophets and in the osalms,concerning me.. all christions jews muslims should be circumcised and not eat bacon plain as the sun.ps when you people talk about the prophets first learn ther proper names as i see it the bible hwo ever wrote it got the names rong. even god is rong.google aramaic lexicon to translate the word god in aramaic. jesus spoke hebrew and aramaic but aramaic is his mother tongue.peace


Overstarr 6 years ago

Way to judge everyone based on past uses of tattoos. I don't get why you have to blame our generation for this, when it really is your generation's fault... its bad enough that many youth feel the need to "have a better body" because of the media.

Lets face it, tattoos only reflect what is already there, but doesn't change a single thing. You have missed that point, and have seriously just offended wayyy too many people.

What a "facepalm" moment.


Overstarr 6 years ago

Way to judge everyone based on past uses of tattoos. I don't get why you have to blame our generation for this, when it really is your generation's fault... its bad enough that many youth feel the need to "have a better body" because of the media.

Lets face it, tattoos only reflect what is already there, but doesn't change a single thing. You have missed that point, and have seriously just offended wayyy too many people.

What a "facepalm" moment.


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Kassi_Nova 6 years ago from The Wet Coast, Canada

It goes to show how very much you want to prove your point when you know enough about history and culture to notice how little you know about other religions. Shamanism isn't black magic, and shamans do not commune with spirits that are "invariably evil". In fact, most shamans (medicine men) commune with the spirits of ancestors, and their spirit animals (totem). The shaman invited the spirit of the animal in, and inherited its abilities. But it was a mutual contract between the animal and the shaman to share a oneness for mutual gain. Shaman also contacted spirit guides or guardian spirits to help the people through difficult times. Shamanism is one of the oldest and most prevalent healing tradition, begun in tribal cultures and carried into modern times for centuries from around the world.

Even paganism has its roots in simple culture.

Why does every religion that does not stem from Christianity have to be 'evil'? "GOD" is a concept, and carries many names in many cultures. In older religions (yes, ones that even predate the written word- thus predating the bible itself), "GOD" is not even one entity, but many. The ancient Greeks believed in a godlike being for various intention, action and emotion- an idea also adopted by the Romans. One of the oldest known religions was that of the Ancient Egyptians- wherein the people were forced to believe in false Gods who were merely Pharoas, passing themselves off as demigods. Religion, at its first beginnings, was ritualistic in nature.

And I seriously think that people worldwide who get tattoos would have a problem being accused of satanistic devil worshippers. Incense isn't used there to channel Satan- it's used because it smells nice. Stop watching all of those horror movies.


Me 6 years ago

...so tattoos will make you gay?


Michelle 6 years ago

All of these arguments against the One True Holy God are immaterial, "every knee shall bow, every tongue confess". Refusing to worship or obey God is meaningless here - it's when you've died that it will matter, and then it will be too late. God is a gentleman - if you want nothing to do with Him here, He will accept that choice, and love demands a choice - we are not automatons and He gave us the ability to choose.

There is only one question - Jesus, or no Jesus. Everything else in life stems from that choice. HE said "no one comes to the Father but through me". Book report kids - either you believe it or you don't. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. The behavior that pleases God and protects us from harm is laid out clearly in the ENTIRE Bible. Although I don't think God would damn me to hell for having a tattoo if I had one, I'd rather receive the blessings associated with obedience to God then to continue in rebellion; and that is what all these arguments miss. Trust me - those blessings are worth having. "Know Jesus, know Truth. No Jesus, no Truth". Satan is the father of lies, and this world belongs to him. Choose this day whom you will serve. Just because you don't believe does not mean your day of judgment won't come.


Paul 6 years ago

That's it - ever since I got my Jesus fish tattoo vie been feeling gay. He was riiiiiiiiiight! And there is no turning back..........

Ahhhhhhhhh


Mortified 6 years ago

I clicked on this article link because I thought there were going to be medical reasons against tattoos. I was not expecting the propoganda that I read. Now it leaves me in doubt about the rest of the web site. As an educator I was totally mortified by the teachers comments. The trouble with religion (apart from war) is the extremists who get hold of about the it. I get sick of "good religious" people who want to ram their views down your throat, but won't talk to a family because they are from the wrong area. What happened to "no one has the right to judge another". If you can go to bed at night with a clear conscience, then you are doing yourself and the world a favour.


PhoenixHarte 6 years ago

Hopefully this works. I have an interesting angle on this. SO making cuts on the body is a sin, eh? How about plastic surgery? Implants? Here's my take. I was born with some major facial birth defects including a cleft palate. I am blind in one eye and now wear a special prosthetic to fill the empty socket. I have undergone 12 reconstructive surgeries to try and correct an underdeveloped upper jaw, a deformed nose, spent about 16 years in braces. I have scars on my face and my body from those procedures. I've had bone grafts from my ribs, hip and skull. Skin grafts from my earlobes, behind the ears, and forehead. AM I going to hell for that? You look me in the face and say that. Oh, and I have TWO tattoos. I also have gauged my ears. Want to know something? My surgeries hurt WAY more than the tattoos. Being bullied brutally because of my disfigurement hurt WAY more than the ink. Those bullies were also supposedly 'pious Christians', who said I should die because God said so. I graduated high school, got my Associate's from college. I work in an office, I drive a car, heck I crochet.

I'll take my tattoos and my tattooed friends any day over the sanctimonious drivel of raving religious nutbags. Oh, and lastly, I'm not even Christian. I'm a pagan, and I learned more about loving myself from this faith than I ever did under the heel of Christianity. So chew on that.


cathy 6 years ago

Hey Kudos to you Phoenix Harte. You put that author right where they needed to be put


Jazz 6 years ago

I think its funny all of the people on here that say they are "Christians" but are judging everyone with tattoos. If you are a Christian I think you would know that you shouldn't judge others or think your better than others leave that to God. Plus when you die so does your body it stays here on earth buried in the ground. Your soul is what is cherished so maybe you should work on your soul and not judging others and not so much about everyone else and their tattoed bodies!:)


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mimind 6 years ago from THE UNITED STATES

I found this hub interesting to read and though its a theological and social argument on perceptions and stereotypes not a cut and dry argument it was interesting.

Religion to some is "faith in the written word" although the written word was made by man supposedly translated/ transcribed from god then scholars etc read and gave their takes and added meanings etc.

I do not agree with you but then again I believe that any devine being out there would not be so petty as to dictate how one lives dress, adornments, etc so long as the person enriched theirs and others lives not causing harm or suffering. Justification being taht if the goal of the religion is peace and happines why cause such discord by having silly rules and requiring worship, that if its given should be at the whim of the person not structured as it means more from the heart then in a ritual one can do without much thought.


Scott 6 years ago

Matthew 7:15--Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.

This verse refers to each and every one of you who pass judgment and condemn people to hell for their beliefs, or lack thereof. You blasphemously feast on the "unrighteous" for no other reason than self-promotion in the eyes of your "lord." You are brown-nosing, religious yes-men, kissing the ass of a deity who, if he ever DID exist, abandoned you centuries ago. Your god is dead and buried next to Zeus, Ra, Neptune, Odin, and the other obsolete myths created by humanity.


Emily 6 years ago

As a persons with a tattoo, I have to say that this article is offensive. My catholic father and step-mother do not mind, nor does the rest of my family or friends. My tattoo is a memorial to my mother and a very close friend who can no long be with me in this world. I spent 6 years researching meaning and art work, artists and ink, but also the affects of time on the tattoo and medical ramification. This should never be a whim or lark for a person, because they may end up regretting it. I spent a lot of time thinking "do I really want this on myself for the rest of my life?" I came to the conclusion that I could live with the the tattoo and the stigma for the rest of my life. I chose 4 simple lines of text that I wrote and a pretty font to remind me of them and to remind me that life is short and I should live a life with out regrets. You wear a necklace that belonged to grandma to remember, I wear words. I fail to see how a piece of art for memory will condemn me to hell.

I have never been arrested, I don't do drugs, I am from a upper middle class family, and I have a college degree and a full time job. Needless to say, I chose a spot on my body that was not seen unless to be shown on purpose so that I would not be judge by my ink. (For all of you who are thinking dirty, it's between my shoulder blades just below my neck.) My tattoo is for me not the world. I don't need every one to see it to know it's there and it means something. I also chose this place because I do know that in today’s work world, it is much harder to get a job with visible tattoos. In fact, the company I work for has a policy that states, any employee must not have tattoos or body jewelry visible while on the clock, they must be covered an/or taken out.

I believe there are people with tattoos that are violent, just as there are those who aren't. If you don't believe in tattooing don't get one, but don't judge all people by one standard. You do NOT know why they have the tattoo and to judge it with out that knowledge will offend them. Tread carefully.

I respect peoples rights to believe in what they believe and how they wish to live but not the right to impose that way on others. There are religious reasons to not get them for some people but there are also cultures across the world where tattoos are a fundamental part of their religion or beliefs. No matter what your religion, I hope you believe that a person has the right to express themselves any way the want while not causing harm to others. My tattoo doesn't hurt you or your children or anyone else for that matter. It only hurt me for the hour I sat to get it. If you walked past me no the street or saw me at work you would never know I have one.

36% of Americans from 18 to 50 have a tattoo, 1 in 3 people. Chances are you know someone with a tattoo. I don’t know if I will ever get another tattoo but I know that I will not regret the one I have and no one can make me regret it for any reason.

My body IS a temple with a memorial painted on it. It’s just that simple for me.

And for anyone wondering my tattoo reads:

speak before silenced

move before stilled

laugh before tears

love before lost

in living memory


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

Emily, you made a great defence, speaking for tattoos. But what about the overwhelming medical, psychological, historical, social and spiritual evidence AGAINST tattoos.

And how does your defence stand against one simple command from God, which is: You shall NOT mark your body with tattoos. Lev 19:28. God speaks for our good. The Creator knows more about us than we ourselves. Let us honor Him by total obedience.


Legitimate Question 6 years ago

Pratonix:

Leviticus 19:27 "You shall not round off the hair on your temples or mar the edges of your beard." So, I guess anyone with a haircut and a goatee is going to hell? It says so right in the bible.

By the way, it also says, a few verses before that in Leviticus 19:19 "You shall not let your cattle breed with a different kind; you shall not sow your field with two kinds of seed; nor shall there come upon you a garment of cloth made of two kinds of stuff." This rules out a) any sort of genetically engineered animal or plant, b) any farmer who practices crop rotation, and c) anybody who has ever worn synthetic clothing (i.e. cotton polyester). Leviticus 19:4 "Do not turn to idols or make for yourselves molten gods." That pretty much rules out anybody who has ever used any sort of metal currency. That sums it up: all Americans are going to Hell for disobeying the Bible. Nice job, guys.


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alexandruv 6 years ago

Hi Pratonix,

Interesting point of view, however I think it's not very objective.

There are many individuals with tattoos and they aren't gay/sexually obsessed etc. This religious point of view doesn't apply to everybody and shouldn't even be considered (not everybody share the same views). If you can bring scientific facts to the table then yes, ok studies have some % of credibility but quotes from bible - only if you believe in it.


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Pratonix 6 years ago from Asia Author

Legitimate Question, the doubts you have about Leviticus are illegitimate, because you have no idea what the Book of Leviticus is talking about. It is, however, your prerogative to misinterpret the Bible; but remember, there is a Judgment for those who twist Scripture.

Alexandruv, the scientific study is at http://hubpages.com/style/The-Dangers-of-Tattoos


Stick. 6 years ago

your article does nothing but highlight the prejudiced nature of some people in our society today.

Also, the suggestion that tattooing is associated with sexual deviance is a hair's breadth from outright homophobia.


Laurens 6 years ago

What does it matter what religiouse people think about tattoos? In my opinion, religious people are the most stupid people, so leave them out of the tattoo-industry! those people don't even make they're own choises in live, but hide behind a book, because they're too scared for the truth... nothing to do with the tattoo world of today!


hangmansgirl 6 years ago

@ Pratonix (this is Emily)

You're right, there is information you and others have found against tattoos, but there is also just as much for tattoos and the limited risks.

Historically tattoos where about defiance or superstition or religious/cultural beliefs. Modern tattoo can still carry those ideas as well as a host of others. Do not judge by the present by the past.

Yes, there are psychological effects on a person with a tattoo. Some have regret because it was a drunken mistake or an act of rebellion against something. Some feel lighter or content with what they have because it is a kind of closure (i.e. me). Others just do it because they like it. They cannot walk away un-effected.

Socially, 1 in 3 in my age bracket have a tattoo. There is stigma and prejudice against the tattoo in the world, it doesn't mean it right but it's there. To reject someone solely on the fact of tattoos is unfair. I also think that social and psychological reasons are closely linked and cannot be separated.

There is always, and I mean always, a medial risk for ANYTHING you do. The key is knowledge. Educate yourself about the risks, processes and consequences. Any tattoo shop worth their ink will tell you and show you their procedures for maintaining a safe and clean environment. I went to 5 shops and asked all my questions, which they answers politely and gladly, before choosing my shop and artist. I also went to my regular doctor and asked questions about the effects medically. Removal can be a long and more painful process. It’s one of the many, many things I considered when getting my tattoo. I never assumed that I could take it off at any time. Tattoos are meant to PERMANENT, that’s why getting one should not be taken lightly. FYI, any one considering getting a glow-in-the-dark tattoo shouldn’t, the inks can be very toxic and most artists won’t do them.

Religiously, I have no right answer for this, just my thoughts. I stated before my parents are catholic, I’m not. I don’t know what I am. I have read 75% of the Bible, parts of the Torah, Koran, and many other religious doctrines from around the world. I have made it a point in my life to try to understand others’ religion and cultural views so that I may have a better understanding of the world in which I live. There are religions around the world millennia older than Christianity with similar allegorical stories. Who's right, I don't know. I do believe that this is something greater than me in the universe. Whether it is the Christian God or the Flying Spaghetti Monster, I just don’t know. Blind faith for me is hard, some of the greatest atrocities in human history where committed in the name of someone’s god. What ever deity is out there, I hope that he/she/it will judge me on my actions towards the world and not my tattoo: if they do I hope he/she/it asks me why before writing me off as unworthy.

No one will every win this debate. We just have to respect each others stance. I respect that you view that tattoos are an immoral choice based on religion and not reason or meaning behind the tattoo. I hold firm that you must respect my choice that I have a tattoo in spite of all the arguments against it and with full knowledge of the historical, social, psychological, medical and religious ramifications.

Also, any one considering getting a tattoo and reading this there are two books you should read, the first is The Tattoo Encyclopedia: A Guide to Choosing Your Tattoo and the second is Ink:The Not-Just-Skin-Deep Guide to getting a Tattoo both by Terisa Green, Ph.D.


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Pratonix 26 hours ago

Legitimate Question, the doubts you have about Leviticus are illegitimate, because you have no idea what the Book of Leviticus is talking about. It is, however, your prerogative to misinterpret the Bible; but remember, there is a Judgment for those who twist Scripture.

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Pratonix,

You are quoting the scripture out of context. God NEVER said tattoos are a bad thing. This scripture refers to the pagan practice of marking and burying bodies...

No where in the bible does it state marking of one's skin on a living person is banned....only in its context and use....

tats and piercings are not a bad thing, if they were, the saints and Jesus himself would not have favor in God's eyes....

unless of course you think your better than God...or that God even supports your spinning of his words into distortions..


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mary stormshade 6 years ago

@legitimate question

nice....


Gyo 6 years ago

Its amazing how arrogant can the human being be that always trys to minimize God to it´s narrow view of the world both preferences and likes/dislikes.

I have a tatoo, proud of it and i´m not a criminal, homosexual (not that i´m agains it) pervert, crazy, killer, drug addict, or Whatever. I have my degree and soon i´ll have my masters. And I believe in God and Jesus, and i don´t think he cares more about a mark in our body than we spreading hate to others and using him for our sellfish an commodity preferences instead of thrully loving our brothers and sisters.


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Firetoad99 6 years ago from Huntington Beach

Mutilation of the body?!. HAHAHA. So then the needle that pierced my arm as child to inoculate me against diseases sent me straight to hell i guess. Or perhaps before that my surgery as a baby. Or does only my doctor go to hell for that one. Perhaps everyone who has given or received an organ, blood, bone marrow, etc. Ever known anyone with cancer? Then ill bet you know someone who has been mutilated in one fashion or another. Hell must be getting pretty crowded. So where do you draw the line? And who chose you to be the one to draw it?


Teresa Spingola 6 years ago

This article was very informative. I have not thought one way or the other regarding the moral aspect of getting a tatoo. I have only related to it from a medical standpoint, being in the medical field. Thank you for sharing this.


raz 5 years ago

this modern life is either black or white,human beings should stop beating around the bush or having to find someone to xplain to them what something means,you already know whether something is right or wrong from the word go.......stop excuses and sick ideas bringing up the whole world to support what you stand for at the moment because it will never make it right............


Annelie 5 years ago

I am no fan of big and many tattooes, but tattooes are what you make of them. This article started with ok history appoach, but later ended up in Christian propaganda.

In India f.eks tattooes on your forhead can tell that you are married a.s.o. Not all tattooes are evil. They are what you make of them, like with everything in life. If you approach a person in the believes that they are evil, then maybe they are to you even if they really are not.


Respect. 5 years ago

What about about tattoos about faith in Christ and remembrance of lost loved ones you biased fool. You relate tattoos to homosexuality and yet defend ancient Greeks and Romans? Well sorry to burst your holy bubble but it was encouraged in ancient Greece AND Rome for young men to be free and have sex with other men until they were old enough to marry their wives who they abused and had absolutely no place in society. I would rather defend the countless people I know who are amazing, intelligent, and have tattoos. Your views on Christian ways and your stereotypes only reflect your ignorance. Your pathetic stab at defining tattoos truly makes me laugh. Idiot.


anon 4 years ago

Everytime I see people with a tattoo, I think what a dummy, what a moron, what a mindless pygmy. I can't help what I feel. It is so ugly, tasteless and sickening.

I can understand if someone wanted a temporary henna tattoo for fun for one day of their day of their lives but even then, what is the point? It is so tacky and so gross looking. I do associate tattoos with deviant behavior and stupid people.


Vegasvoice 4 years ago

When people are faced with arguments they don’t like—they ignore the arguments and misuse Jesus’ apparent command not to “judge” in order to shut you up. So if you oppose their behavior or their attempt to get the nation to endorse their immorality (morally objectionable behavior ), you’re sure to hear, “Thou shalt not judge!”

As with most slogans shouted by such people, the truth is exactly opposite to what they claim. Those demanding tolerance take the judgment statements of Jesus out of context because they want to avoid any moral condemnation for their own actions, and they don’t want you to notice that they are making judgments too. Let’s take a look at what Jesus actually said:

“Do not judge lest you be judged.

“For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you.

“And why do you look at the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the log that is in your own eye?

“Or how can you say to your brother, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ and behold, the log is in your own eye?

“You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye” (Matthew 7:1-5).

Notice Jesus isn’t telling us not to judge—Jesus is telling us how to judge. He commands us to take the speck out of our brother’s eye— that involves making a judgment, but He also commands us to stop committing the bigger sins ourselves so we can better help our brother.

In other words, when you judge, do so rightly not hypocritically. Jesus actually commands us to make judgments elsewhere in the Bible. In John 7:24, He says, “stop judging by mere appearances and make a right judgment.” Jesus would never tell us to stop judging—that would be suicide. Just think about how impossible life would be if we did not make judgments. You make hundreds, if not thousands, of judgments every day between good and evil, right and wrong, dangerous choices from safe ones. You would be dead already if you did not make judgments.

(Of course, there’s a difference between making a judgment and being judgmental. We must make judgments, but we must make them with the right attitude.)

I think that this article was not meant to harm others, it was simply written to inform others, who may be considering a tatoo, the pros and cons. We all have our own convinctions. If you are not sure wether you should get a tattoo or not, then research it yourself and then pray about it and ask God to guide you with his Holy Spirit. For those of you who need more information, here is a page that I came across that was informative: http://www.av1611.org/tattoos/intro.html


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Tuesday75 4 years ago from Omaha, NE

Wow...look at the comments on this Hub! I posted something about tattoos on a forum one time (many years ago), and I got hammered with comments from people. Something about people and their defense of tattoos I will never understand.

Let's just be honest...it makes NO sense for a person to pay someone to put them through pain so they can be marked permanently. It's just not common sense. It's weird and odd and something has to be misfiring inside of your brain for anyone to find that normal behavior. You're mutilating yourself and as mentioned above, an irresponsible way to spend your money.

Just the fact that people get so defensive about it shows that something inside of them knows it's wrong. As far as calling people "narrow-minded" well, what's that say about you? If you can't even accept another person's opinion, then YOU are being just as "narrow-minded" if not more since you're telling the author he/she doesn't even have a *right* to express their opinion or thoughts freely. This is America, not some communist crap country.

I have a friend that is tattooed from almost neck to toe, hands, back, you name it. He still has some space on his chest, but that's about it. Wonderful guy but even he knows he's just messed up. He has an anti-social side to him and I don't want to reveal too much about him but something is very wrong with him. Now, are ALL people this way? I don't know but, I would imagine that most are. There really is something concerning the psychology of those who get multiple tattoos and mutilate themselves.

As far as the Christian aspect, I am a Christian and people need love and we need to love all of our brothers and sisters, no matter what they have done. You are not going to hell for tattoos; all are forgiven. Yes, we are saved through grace but, please remember that G-d did not put you on earth to suffer. He wants you to be prosperous. He wants you to have a good life and that's why he gave us the commandments and rules to follow.

Getting tattoos, especially in visible areas can prevent you from getting a good job, it puts a negative stigma upon you. You might even be considered an outsider among peers or other groups. G-d wants you to be loved and to be loved by many. He doesn't want you to be an outcast.

No matter how "tolerant" we become to tattoos, we have actually become more intolerant. Look at the comments on this Hub. The worst intolerance comes from those who are always preaching to everyone how great they are because they tell people their tolerant and condemn anyone that doesn't think as they do. *shaking head* Irony at its finest!

Oh, and I do not celebrate easter, Christmas, or other pagan holidays. When you have the love of the Lord in your heart, you refrain from sinning. Now, I can't say I fully free from sin, we are ALL sinners but, I can say, I sin much less now that I have turned to the Lord. The Bible is wonderful but no, Christians should not be legalistic about it. The book was written for people to study and go about learning at their own pace, not for people to argue and insult one another. Again, love yourself, love your fellow man.

Smoking is considered a sin because you are purposely damaging cells in your body. Please say no one here is going to argue that smoking is good for your body. Your body is a temple and you're supposed to take care of it so you can live long and live happily. Again, G-d WANTS you to be happy and live a good, prosperous life. Just because you are forgiven doesn't mean rules do not apply.

It's like a parent telling their child not to touch the stove. The child can touch the stove and the parent will still love the child but, they know the child will be injured and possibly scarred for the rest of their lives. It's not that the parent is some mean figure; their rules are out of pure LOVE, as are G-d's.

Where I disagree with many modern Christians is the use of pagan hell. The concept was brought into the church almost immediately but, if you study early Christianity, no Christian ever preached such nonsense and it makes sense since you can't love if your love is governed by fear. If you're only loving G-d because you're afraid He will torture you, that's not love at all.

If people are willing to understand how much Jesus loves then, they can begin their walk of slowly getting to know Him and then, the understanding of why He tells people to avoid things like getting tattoos can be revealed. Everyone has to learn at their own pace...just as I am traveling along at another pace.

Remember, all tongues will confess Jesus' name. G-d bless.


Zealots Are Idiots 4 years ago

Article is absolutely hilarious! Excellent satire. What? You mean you were serious? *snicker*


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Yes, all those who love & sport tattoos are Idiots.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

The two hubs that I wrote on Tattoos are well-researched and absolutely authoritative. There are no two opinions about tattoos. In God's eyes, tattoos are 'verboten'.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Beautiful words. "Everytime I see people with a tattoo, I think what a dummy, what a moron, what a mindless pygmy. I can't help what I feel. It is so ugly, tasteless and sickening." You said it from the heart. (Look at all the stupid heart-less comments made on my hub! What is the world coming to?)


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Somebody called 'Respect' wrote to me long ago and signed off like this: "Your pathetic stab at defining tattoos truly makes me laugh. Idiot."

If that somebody had "Respect", he wouldn't call himself Idiot! ;)


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Yes, God looks on the heart. But He HATES tattoos.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Beautiful response, Diane. Sorry I'm responding so late. (Got a bit tired of HubPages, and the exploitation by GoogleAds!)


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Yes, this article is eye-opening. But those who are BLINDED by sin and hate cannot see the Truth of it.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

I think, Frank, you know very little of the Bible. Those who do not have the Spirit of God and are IGNORANT of the Word of God, generally try to defend tattoos.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

It's wonderful that the Jews do not love tattoos. True Christians have NOT junked the Torah; it's part of our Bible!


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Keep hoping in vain. I spoke the truth - and those who love tattoos (and things which are abominable to God) will simply not understand what I've written.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Rather, Lauren has been talking through her hat!


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

I guess your whole body is covered with tattoos - and perhaps you're trying in vain to get rid of them. Live with them all your life!


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

You can talk about loving God, etc - but when you DISOBEY God, you are only proving that you are a hypocrite. The Bible strongly condemns tattoos.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

I wish you knew God, knew the Bible (the Word of God). It is your absolute moral and spiritual ignorance that has led you to respond the way you've done.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Stick to the subject. The Bible clearly and strongly CONDEMNS tattoos.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Good reply, Teacher. But the rest simply refuse to learn. Guess they never really went to school - the School of Christ!


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Thanks, Rick.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Not 'brave enough to try it'. Only laughing loons will try tattoos. They're SICK.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

I guess sane people should worry about neurosurgeons like you. The picture you've described is not 'beautiful art', but quite the reverse. Just nauseating.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

I love what 4th Grade Teacher wrote. There are still some sane people in this crazy (tattoo-ed) world!


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

Paganism is the religion of the devil, fyi.


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Pratonix 4 years ago from Asia Author

That radio priest must have been a rabid priest. I don't think he knew the Word of God. Such stupid ignorance!

God hates Tattoos! Paul said that the body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, and you CANNOT tattoo the temple of God!


John Ortiz 3 years ago

We all know in our hearts that tattoos don't belong on the body. They look ugly when our skin becomes old and wrinkly. There is nothing more beautiful than a natural body with no foolish markings. The word of God absolutely forbids tattoos. We are called to be seperate from the world and holy. God commands us not to imitate the world. We are to glorify God with our bodies.


Levi 3 years ago

I love my God, and my ink. He gave me life, and free-will. You are human. The only person that can judge me? No one. Only God. Someday a doctor or a police officer could save your life. There is a 50% chance they will have ink. You are in no positioin to point fingers and judge. (:


Lu 3 years ago

This article is so ridiculous that I don't even have to make fun of it.


Joseph Grima 3 years ago

My name is Joseph Grima I am a dedicated christen , husband , and father . I'm a New York City firefighter ...AND!!! tattoo artist. I'm tattooed over 30% of my body have never did drugs and can assure you my lord Jesus Christ and God the father are more concerned about the kind of person I am on the inside then the "scares" on my body ... I looked for the name of the ignorant person who wrought this but could not find it ... I would love for him/her or anyone who has information on him/her to email my Jshov93@aol.com I would love to put them in their place


Lol 3 years ago

You know most of you are funny, some of you are saying God is the God of hearts, yes that's true, but what is outside its what's in the heart, when you say that tattoos are how u express yourself you actually right too, cos that's what's in the heart, can you all seriously imagine Jesus Christ with a tattoo lol? People judge u on the outside cos that's all they see and God judge u on what's on your heart but what's interesting is what's outside like those tattoos it's what's inside, I'm still looking for mother Theresa or a pope with a tattoo


Pratonix is blind 3 years ago

Oh wow, haha. I couldn't even read all of this. I believe by reading 4 sentences of each section, my IQ dropped about 30-40 points. This is the most un realistic most ignorant thing I've ever heard. I could go on and on about how F****** dumb you sound. But you probably won't even read this.

Not everybody is into a vanilla lifestyle. You're one of those wierdos that don't do anything without praying to God first to get the "answer", aren't you. Wake up.

I am Christian and live in a Christian family. I go to church twice a week and read the bible. I have no tattoos and don't like them either. But what you are saying here is probably the reason so many people now days are atheists. You sound like a raging f****** lunatic. I'm embarrassed to have the same religion as you.


mdgfnvreyz 3 years ago

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lapoops 3 years ago

tattoos are really stupid looking. I make 6 figures a year toward the 8's. I don't date women who have tattoos. Sorry ladies, good luck!


monoousian 3 years ago

You seem to only focus on the negative views of tattoos. Have you even given a second thought to the fact that there are positive points to having them as well?

First of all, in your "historical aspect", you have failed to recognise that tattoos have been used THROUGHOUT history in tribes as a form of identification. For example, tattoos in the Maori tribe of New Zealand were used to mark great warriors. These tattoos were completely unique to each tribe member because they were created to fit the lines of the body for that particular individual. You are of course correct about criminals being tattooed or branded. I find it highly interesting that you say " Wherever the Christian faith made its entrance, the tattoo made its exit." when referring to tattoos as a paganistic practice. Funny, because pagan holidays didn't make an exit when Christianity came into fashion, but you don't seem to have a problem with that.

Now, as a psychologist, I find your views of the "psychological aspect" rather entertaining. Tattoos are associated with risk-taking behaviour so yes, it wouldn't be ridiculous to assume that they are linked to drug/alcohol intake, criminal behaviour etc. But funnily enough, high IQ has also been linked to drug consumption. The fact that there is a correlation tells us nothing, it must be looked at further before any assumptions can be made. You brought up the interesting point that there is a link between tattoos and low self-esteem. Unfortunately, you didn't bother to expand upon that point, so I shall do it for you. Tattoos are a way for many people to gain control over their own bodies, if you will. It gives them a better sense of self. It really doesn't surprise me that people with low self-esteem get tattoos because they just want to feel contented, like they belong to something. If their tattoos help them to feel happier, who are you to judge them and say that tattoos are wrong?

In my opinion, tattoos are a form of self-identification and indication of group belonging (much like "Christian" is for you). Instead of jumping to incorrect conclusions about people with tattoos, I implore you to think a little outside the box when considering why they have them.


dhurga 3 years ago

I found this page because I was thinking of dying my hair and most sites I landed upon had the qualities of female, hair, tattoos, so I looked up hair and tattoos. I have thus far read the old testament up to exodus. I have 4 stomach piercings. I don't think most of us realize how we open ourselves up to certain kinds of energy when we pierce the body. So for example many of us are considered blasphemous by those who consider the act of personal demarcation a rather serious and sacred matter. How many of us are willing to admit that our tattoos are vain and narcissistic?


Aubery 3 years ago

you are who you are …….sorry but religion should be banned and never to be forced on anyone ….your beliefs are your own …..keep them to your selves …..religion has killed more people than drugs and alcholol and always will for all time ……the bible was translated from latin to english to keep the population under control by the Kings and Queens of the time !!!


Lt. Hayes 3 years ago

About 90% of what is said on this page is wrong, The biggest thing that gets to me is that it sounds like your saying that if I, or anyone, has a tattoo then they are going to hell, God looks to the heart, I have Semper Fi tattooed on my right wrist, and i have the names of all of my fallen friends on my left arm, God will not damn my soul for them.


lonesurvivor 3 years ago

Neither God, Hell nor the Bible has anything to do with it.....if you voluntary have a tattoo, then you have a mental disorder.....that's a medical fact!!!!!...and the more tattoos, the more & worse the disorders.....99% of the time, leading to criminal tendencies...if you don't believe it....go check the mug shots at your local jail....


Griffin 3 years ago

I thought this article was a serious lack of research and well... brain matter as a whole! Articles like this are EXACTLY why other religions are taking over, leaving Christianity as a minority group! People just refuse to be brainwashed in todays age! Christians, Pagans and any other religion alike should find this insulting! Shut your website down rather than post bullshit! Where I come from we call people like you "Oxygen thieves"!


Masters Degree in Psychology 3 years ago

20 tattoos and COUNTING!


Banana 3 years ago

Something has to terribly wrong inside persons brain in order to decide to slap a graffiti on ones own skin. In the least it shows that tattooing is a profound disrespect for ones own body and that is the starting point of any perversion - moral, sexual...

Hence people with ratios are disgusting as their graffiti is an immediate sign that one should shunt that person and not associate.


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Charlie 3 years ago

To the author of the hub :

As much as i think you may have a point, or may not,

the essence of the matter definitely does not reside therein.

Judgement belongs to judges. and theres only one judge in the universe.

Like many before me have pointed, i also faith strongly that Our father, Christ, in his holy spirit, judges us according to our hearts. Nothing else.

You are free to follow OT rules, believe they still apply in NT times, or not, worship God almighty or his enemy, be an atheist, smoke a cigarette, have sex, or not, pray liturgically or in your heart, sitting or standing, or on your knees. But i believe the most important, in my understanding anyway, is to kneel before our Father in spirit. in the heart. truthfully and loyally.

Love Him. Love Others. Love Yourself.

All intellect, All feeling, All will is god.

And i believe God understands each single one of these comments from the heart perspective of it's writer. for there is where he dwells, or so i love to believe, and will keep believing; and I'm only using the word believe cause i already used faith as a verb and I'm not sure its correct according to laws of grammar.

But I'm sure the good intention of my message came across.

And thats precisely my point.

Jesus christ is God to me. Along with the father and holy spirit.

i know of the evil of this world, and walk with god to fight it. First in my own consciousness, and then in the collective if so my fate wills. Cause i certainly will so.

Free will is the most determining faculty man can have in his life, soul and in this world. And i stand firm by the liberty that comes with it.

But with every choice a consequence. so as long as all your choices are good. the consequences should be too.

Getting a tattoo is something infinitely small in front of the truth of love.

And instead of arguing and tearing each other for this (for some) i think god would much prefer if we each did as we wish to do, but loved each other, ourselves and him deeply in our hearts.

For it is all that matters.

I have a tattoo, and I'm getting another one next week.

I understand it is associated with the lost world. but aren't we all lost anyway?

We certainly aren't found by thinking we are. or we know.

For all we know, we barely know what we are, individually and as a whole.

But we surely know we can love. LOVE.

and we shouldn't fear.

and that post looks to be more inspired by fear than by love.

Best intentions to all of you. God bless


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Pratonix 2 years ago from Asia Author

I am delighted that this article has been appreciated by many people on the Net, and has generated a lot of discussion. There are many who are blinded by the lies of Satan, and their own reluctance to obey the truth. But the fact of the matter is that Tattoos are evil - and that included so-called 'christian tattoos'!

Here is a link from http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/3086395...

where my article has generated tremendous response. May the Lord bless this article, and may many who are now blinded come to see the truth!


Mark 2 years ago

I know a lot of people can argue whatever they want to,but God's Truth still stands.if God's word says its wrong then no opinion matters.Guys don't try to show you know and claim that intentions are better than God's command...did God said No Markings? Then don't. What if after all this defence you are trying to raise, God says you are wrong? Its better to be wrong now and be right at last than to claim right now and be told you are wrong in the end where it all matters... God help us!


michael9311 2 years ago

In my interaction with the Bible, I have come across tattoos or their depiction for that matter two times. The first time is in Leviticus 19:27, from where this article is based on. The second mention of the tattoo in the Bible is in Isaiah 44:5, which states, "Some will say, 'I belong to the LORD'; others will call themselves by the name of Jacob; still others will write on their hand, 'The LORD's,' and will take the name Israel."

From both contexts, it is clear that two different Biblical views on the use of tattoos exist, where one admonishes it and the other seems to use it in a Christian perspective. However, this is just my opinion and I stand to be corrected.

While I am not a fanatical for the use of tattoos, I take liberal views on most issues. I believe in freewill where humankind has the right to choose how they live their lives but with full knowledge that there might be consequences.

I would very much like to hear the opinion of those associating this practice with devil worship about the second context in which the depiction of a tattoo is used in the Bible.


Jo 2 years ago

Let's be honest the author to idea no valid resources. His bible verses can sure be valid by that single-minded view, but there is mention of what psychologists say yet there is no citation of this research. I'm glad some have blind faith, but I have to whole heartedly disagree with the author simply for his lack of evidence.


Leon 2 years ago

I just searched for your references and the info I found, almost word for word, was dated 1985 or later. And a heavy dose of plagiarism.

Also, it's people like you make spreading the Lords good word, difficult. Here have twisted scripture for your purpose and threw out the rest. Ever wonder why people are turned off to church? You gave a great example with this "article".

The very reason I don't call myself a Christian, but rather a follower of Christ. If you are to obey one Levitical law, you must follow them all. No exclusions or excuses. Otherwise, you are acting upon the very "evil" you are attempting to scorn yourself.


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Pratonix 2 years ago from Asia Author

Your guilt is showing, Mr Leon. I know that the truth hurts. But if you were a man, you would accept it. Cowards take refuge in lies. I know my Bible. I know that God hates tattoos. The devil has deceived many with these 'criminal scars' - you have been branded by the enemy to show that you are his.


peter theodosiou 22 months ago

greeks don't get involved with drugs so don't blame us if you're a drug barren who has been caught

stop shooting people with tattoos and migrant bikies they are not to blame

if you get caught peddling drugs then you should look at yourself


Shane Hummer 10 months ago

Let me start by saying this....I cannot believe I am even wasting time by commenting here. That being said...The bible was written by a man and therefore is the last thing any of us should trust. Get a group of people together...say 25 people, then tell one of them something real simple like "the moon is blue on Sundays", then have that person whisper it in the next person's ear, then the next and so on. See how different what you told the first person winds up being coming out of the last persons mouth. The bible having two versions {old testament, new testament} is cause enough for me to find fault. This however i find to be fact, there is nothing in either version that clearly states that tattooing is a sin or that god hates tattoos. Christianity in itself has been probably the bloodiest religion ever to plague the earth. Christians have killed and tortured millions throughout the years and continues to do so today. Ill take a tattoo over a church any day

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