Cyber Stalking

Be Careful-There is Nowhere, where Someone Isnt There

Have you ever gotten an uneasy feeling when someone makes a inappropriate remark in a chat room?
Have you ever gotten an uneasy feeling when someone makes a inappropriate remark in a chat room?
and they wont stop even after you have asked them to do so?
and they wont stop even after you have asked them to do so?
It is called Cyber Stalking and your personal rights that have been violated.
It is called Cyber Stalking and your personal rights that have been violated.
Take the appropriate actions to make your overall safety-the number one priority.
Take the appropriate actions to make your overall safety-the number one priority.
You are not alone when you are online.
You are not alone when you are online.
Predators lurk in chat rooms and networking sites.
Predators lurk in chat rooms and networking sites.

Preditors on the Internet


I would have never thought to write this hub, if it wasn’t for our forums. I was chatting amongst other Huber’s with light hearted conversation when I noticed a new post by a new Huber. When I say new Huber, I mean-he had joined about an hour or two before he posted the comment, ‘you are looking very pretty’, I didn’t think much of it-but don’t answer anything that anyone posts before I look at their profile. When I clicked on the link to his profile- I saw his pictures and my introduction… Word for Word. I rechecked it and sat back in my chair and thought-what the?

I asked a friend for advice, and provided him with the link, to check it out for himself. He suggested that I ask in the forums. Which I did…Yadda, Yadda, Yadda--- I reported him, and either Hub Page Faculty was quick to remove his posts and his profile, or he read what I was writing and was spooked enough to remove them himself. Jason from HP, banned the mans account within 12 hours of getting my complaint, so Ill take a second to say, “Thanks Jason for responding so quickly and following up with me”.

Although the whole ordeal was quickly resolved, and not that big of a deal-it made me think. Cyber Creeps? I never met one before, I certainly never had one copy and paste my info in their intro, but I am more that sure that it has probably happened before, a number of times to a number of people. I am also sure that people on the internet are often in danger and to a degree that fear becomes very real.

Cyber Stalking is, by definition; the use of e-mail, chat rooms, bulletin boards, or other electronic communications devices to stalk another person.// the use of the Internet or other electronic means to stalk someone.// the use of electronic means to repeatedly engage in the harassment or threatening of another.

A cyber stalker is a stalker. There are laws around it that are punishable by law, if it gets to that point. Just like the ‘real’ world, the internet world is full of places for misfits and creeps to hide and watch. With that said, there are three different types of stalkers.

First we will go over the ‘Simple Obsessional Stalker’; these are the people that don’t want to accept that a relationship has ended . Many times these are boyfriend and girlfriend at one point in time, when one or the other ends the relationship-the person being left can not or will not accept it. A large portion of these stalkers have some sort of criminal record, which may or may not be related to stalking or harassment. Often the stalker was abusive and controlling during the relationship with the victim. These cases make up 70-80% of all stalking cases.

Next is ‘The Delusional Stalker also known as Love Obsession Stalker’, this type of stalker has more than likely, never met their victim. But in a fantasy world they have created within their minds- you and they are meant to be together . Often these people are social outcast, and suffer from depression, schizophrenia, bi-polar disorder or erotomania. Just in case you are wondering what erotomania is, it is when the stalker believes that the victim is in love with them . Most of these people are men, unmarried, socially immature, and is unable to maintain relationships both romantic and/or friendships. They have had very few sexual relationships; if they have had any at all. The people that are chosen to be stalked are somewhat unobtainable persons(celebrities or married individuals). These cases make up about 20-25% of cases.

Finally we have, ‘The Vengeful Stalker’, these are the stalkers looking to get revenge. They are upset with their victims for either real or imagined events . This is the bullied kid at school, going after the bully, or an angry employee, seeking revenge on their employer or even an ex-spouse, can be defined as this type of stalker( or Obsessional Stalker-depending on the situation). Vengeful Stalkers can do things such as use words to attack an individual in a chat-room, or send threatening emails after a disagreement. In some cases stalkers have been known to make wall postings on victims networking sights, best describes as, "HATE POSTINGS", with the objective of ruining the victims reputation. These types of cases are often dangerous, and hard to control if/when the individual suffers from mental disorders, because in essence, the stalker feels as if they are the victim.

Most victims of any type of stalking are women. This is because women are looked at as being weaker than men, and stalkers often chose a victim that is not equal to them, so they are able to control their victims with a bit more ease. When stalking occurs online, in chat rooms, the ration of men to women is 2:1. So the fight for a pretty ladies attention can become intense and heated. Ladies be careful. Don’t give address, phone number or anything of the sorts to a man asking you out in a chat room. When choosing your Screen Name, choose one which is neutral/gender un-relatable. Picking Candi or SexKitten for an online screen name-is probably not the best idea if you are looking for any sort of intelligent conversations.

What are you suppose to do if you are being stalked or if you think that someone is a bit obsessed with you? Stop Talking to them-Stop Chatting with them-Find another Forum/Social Networking Site. Although the victim is not at fault, and the stalking is not about the victims it is about the mind set of the stalker, you don’t want to make yourself an easy target.

If you are on Hub Pages, report it. This is a legitimate complaint, it is not crying wolf if you truly get the creeps from someone (not thinking that someone is a creep-it is not a crime to be a jerk). But if someone goes a little bit too far, and you feel as if your privacy has been violated, don’t turn the cheek-email the Hub Page Team, and they will take care of your complaint.

If your stalker happens to follow you, or being banned from a particular site doesn’t keep them away from you, don’t run and hide. There are also some other law enforcement places I will include links to, just in case you need to use them. If all else fails and your cyber stalker becomes a stalker outside of the internet world, call law enforcement.

Hub Pages is a Happy Place for Writers to Write- But there are many, not so great people in the world that are floating around waiting to see what kind of damage they can do. Just know this, and protect yourself from them as much as you can.


Happy Hubing Everyone…

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Veronica Allen 6 years ago from Georgia

I'm so relieved to hear that everything has worked out. I think this a very brave way of handling such a strange and unsettling situation, and I'm so glad that Jason from HP took swift action. This is great advice for anyone who finds themselves in such a predicament. Take care.


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dohn121 6 years ago from Hudson Valley, New York

You did an excellent job ousting this topic for the benefit of all of us, HC Porter. A couple of my female Hubber friends here were stalked themselves (3 at last count). I think that HubPages is one of the better social networking sites when in comes to disciplinary action against stalkers and people who knowingly personally attack others. Thank you for sharing this.

Dohn


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Veronica and Dohn,

Thank you both for your comments- up until last night, I never thought about Cyber Predators or people of that nature-so I honestly had no idea what to do or even how to report it. I can’t be the only person a little confused about something such as this? I am a firm believer that information is power and sharing what information I found was the intelligent/right thing to do. Thanks for your support.

HC Porter


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sunforged 6 years ago from Sunforged.com

Well done! I think people would be surprised how incredibly easy it is to track down just about anyone on the net. I must admit to using some pretty strong arm tactics when it comes to scammers on eBay and they are usually quite surprised to be hearing my voice at 4am on the telephone.

Those same opportunities are much scarier when considering jilted boyfriends and other violent predators can use the same methods. People should be very careful about how they use identifying information and who they allow access to their social profiles.

first paragraph title, Predators...well written hub!


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dave272727 6 years ago from Kentucky

Wow! I was in the forum last night and I saw the post you are referring to. I also checked after the thread you posted asking for help. It is good to know that Hubpages takes these things seriously. A friend of mine had a crank caller who would call at random times each day. She finally had to call the police when the calls became obscene and threatening. The police told her that there was nothing they could do. If no "physical" crime had been committed, then they couldn't intervene. She eventually changed her number and the calls stopped.


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Sunforged & Dave-

Thanks for reading and commenting. Yeah-crazy people are everywhere. It's better to be safe than sorry. I hope everyone that reads this becomes a little more aware and becomes a little more careful. Thanks again for all the positive feed back and support

HC Porter


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aguasilver 6 years ago from Malaga, Spain

If HubCentral made it a rule that newbies could not post to any forum (except maybe a newbie forum for advice on hubbing)until they had posted 10 hubs, or reached a score of (say)60 then a lot of these freaks, sock puppets, trolls and ghosts would stop opening disposable sock accounts with the sole intention of giving us all grief from behind a cowards mask.

Great hub BTW and glad you had the good sense to pin the idiot to the HubCentral wall!


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Thanks for Reading and Commenting Aguasilver,

That is a really good idea-

If new hubers couldnt post comments on hubs or in forums until they post a hub or two that would be a good way to attempt to weed out intruders and headaches-maybe you should suggest that to the HUBB PAGE TEAM?

hc porter


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rebekahELLE 6 years ago from Tampa Bay

very good hub, such an important topic. we really have no idea who is behind that avatar. one reason I do not post my pic. crazies are all over forums and social websites looking for pretty, sexy girls. they copy your pic to their computer... and no thanks... be careful with any links you have in your profile. there's another great hub out now on protecting your virtual self online by money glitch.

happy to hear HP got right on it. thanks for sharing with the community.


daytripeer 6 years ago

One of the more important hubs I have seen in a while.


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stricktlydating 6 years ago from Australia

G'day HC Porter, There's also the chance the person you're talking about didn't write in fluent English and copied / pasted your HubPages intro because of that, and was friendly towards you. The copy/paste was obviously a wrong thing to do, but the person doesn't really seem like a "stalker" because they only sent you one message. And from what you've said that was the end of the matter (apart from their profile being removed from Hub Pages) - Had the person rejoined under other profiles and continued to harrass you by sending you more messages I'd call it stalking then. But I think some people in cybre-space are just plain curious about joining different social networking sites etc and coming from many other cultures sometimes we can be offended though the person may not have intended any harm whatsoever. As you said the person was a new user, so they may have had no idea what Hubpages was all about. It's just a thought. I know there are cybre stalkers out there, but we shouldn't be so quick to jump the gun too. Best wishes.


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

You are correct stricklydating, I wouldnt call him a stalker either. I will double check the Hub- but I dont think I did. I used what had happened as an intro to the Hub, because the situation is what made me think about writing a Hub on such a topic. My situation merely gave me a little bit of the creeps-and as you said, Hub Pages Team took care of it very quickly, which I wanted to include to give a sense of security or belief that this writing forum is backed by a team that has our safety in mind. The situation made me think about the predators on the internet, and I wanted to share information for people who may find themselves is a situation-or share information to make people aware of 'stalkers' so they can protect themselves a little better. I appreciate your response-very much so, I am glad you opened up a new window of perspective to readers, and gave me a chance to clarify my reasoning for writing and publishing this hub.

Thanks again

HC Porter


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rebekahELLE 6 years ago from Tampa Bay

and you were right to take the action you did and write this hub. I don't think we can be too careful and aware online and you acted on your instinct which is generally right. :]

happy hubbing!


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

rebekahElle,

Thank you for both of the comments you posted. I agree, I think if we know information that can be shared with others to improve the overall safety while networking online, we should share it. There is no point in keeping things to ourselves if it can benefit the general community. Thanks again

Daytripeer,

Thank you as well for your comment/ compliment. I am glad you took a moment to read my writing on the matter.

hc porter


poetlorraine 6 years ago

what a situation. Yes hub pages does seem to sort these things out, so we have a measure of safety....


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

poetlorraine

thanks so much for your comment-you are correct about hubpages, i wasnt expecting anything to be done within 24hrs of reporting it

hc porter


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Dao Hoa 6 years ago

Ah! I have been away from the forums for couple of days. Therefore, I did not know about this. I am glad that the Admin. Team reacts quickly.


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Thanks Dao Hoa, for commenting on my Hub-

yes the quick response was very reassuring- speaks very highly of them

hc porter


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tom hellert 6 years ago from home

HC-

CREEPY- why do you think I use my own picture as an avatar- that way- no one messes with me. You are pretty and thats gotta be tough sometimes with not knowing who is reading you and why Luckily I only have to worry about female lizards...met some of those a long time ago long story...*tee-hee* Good luck- Stay safe I can't do the chats my mind doesn't work fast enough- i used to chat on a pokersite i was on allot but now I can't even keep up with a conversation...

Stay safe HC be vigilant.

TH


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Thanks Tom for the comment. There are def a lot of creeps that hang out on the internet. which is why I dont write under my real name. I dont want to come home one day and find that I am not alone (but should be)... Too many nuts out there that are ready to crack :) Always Safe-to keep from being sorry Thanks again!


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Cagsil 6 years ago from USA or America

Hey Holly, I'm saddened to hear about what happened to you and I'm glad Jason took care of the situation quickly. I love your hub and how you're trying to increase awareness, that's an attractive quality(i.e., helping others). It's always a pleasure to read your hubs and I voted it up for you too. I don't see how someone marked it as funny though. But, I did mark it as useful. Keep up the great writing and I'll be more than happy to continue reading. :) Be safe. :)


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Cagsil,

thanks sir for the comment! there are some sick ones out there and I have received emails or comments from at least half a dozen of them---they truth is-there is no safe place on earth where we can not be harmed-no matter if its the WWW or Parking lot of a mall. key to staying safe is to be careful and so what you are there to do and watch who is around you... I am sure there are many women who have experienced the same situation-education on the dangers is crucial :)


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

kenu12maller, Thanks for taking the time to read and to comment on this hub-it is a scary thing to realize that we are never safe/even when at home and online. I am glad I was able to give you a new perspective to consider. Thanks again :)


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Miss Nasreen 6 years ago

I Love you and your Articles on hub pages


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H.C Porter 6 years ago from Lone Star State Author

Miss. Nasreen- thanks for your comment, I'm glad you are enjoying my writing, I appreciate the support


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GoForTheJuggler 4 years ago from Texas

I try to avoid most forum situations for these very reasons. There's almost always some lunatic out there who will harass you for any number of ridiculous reasons. Fortunately, Hubpages is set up in a way that makes this type of behavior difficult to pull off, and I'm happy to hear that HP support is so quick to investigate and take action

Voted up, useful, interesting - keep up the good work!


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lindalou1963 4 years ago from Texas

This is very useful information. I never imagined that a stalker would be on hub pages. I could see it on Facebook or in some chat room... but hub pages??? wow... Thanks for sharing this and I'll be sure to keep my eyes opened.


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misterhollywood 2 years ago from Hollywood, CA

Will you be giving credit to Dr. Moore for his theories on stalking? I interviewed him with a hub featured on Hubpages. You have a good hub here but you should give him credit for his theory, which you have adapted here. It's listed in Wikipedia. The original interview is on my profile under Why People Stalk Celebrities. :)


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H.C Porter 23 months ago from Lone Star State Author

I wrote this hub almost 5 years ago, and was not aware that I was promoting anyones theories within the writing. I will look into his theories though and perhaps rewrite or add to the hub and give him acknowledgement for his work if it is in fact in unison for what I wrote here. Thanks for the information. :)


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misterhollywood 23 months ago from Hollywood, CA

No problem H.C! Thanks for being cool

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