Google Chrome OS: The #1 Shameful Scam Of The Year

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Google has finally ended speculation by most of the nerds on the various PC tech forums on the Internet by announcing that its long awaited operating system, Google Chrome OS would be launched next year.

"Google Chrome OS is an open source, lightweight operating system that will initially be targeted at netbooks," Google's official blog stated today. "Later this year we will open-source its code, and netbooks running Google Chrome OS will be available for consumers in the second half of 2010."

If Google had announced the Second Coming, they couldn't possibly have received more fawning praise and attention from the world's media, mostly from journalists who wouldn't know an OS kernel from a popcorn one.

After all, Google was now trudging through sacred Microsoft territory, offering an alternative to Windows! Wasn't that amazing? Wasn't that incredible? Wasn't that the most news-worthy story of the PC tech year?

Actually, no. The amazing and incredible thing was that the vast majority of journalists covering this story didn't have a clue what the Google announcement was all about. Google Chrome OS is as much a competitor to Windows as I'm a competitor to Michael Phelps in the pool.

You see, the one little tiny aspect that was not noticed in the ridiculous hype surrounding this Google announcement was that Google Chrome OS is not a new, or unique, or even proprietary operating system.

It's LINUX! Sheesh!

Google with all of its countless billions of dollars didn't go out and craft a new operating system from scratch to finally free the world's billions of personal computer users from the Microsoft tyranny. Nope. All they did was to go suck up the same old tired Linux code used in each and every one of those sad and incompetent iterations such as Ubuntu, Debian, Fedora, and all of that myriad of distros that the average computer user doesn't have a clue about and couldn't care less even if they did know.

Linux is a complete and utter failure. After so many years of development and hype, it's fragmented down into scores of competing operating systems that do absolutely nothing well and have captured a humiliatingly tiny market share.

Linux is like running your car on kerosene. Sure, you could probably figure out a way to do it after a few weeks of tearing your hair out and gnashing your teeth, but what's the point?

Most Linux distros simply cannot be installed and utilized by mere mortals without several hundred or thousand of pages of RTFM. And then when you have the OS working on your PC and gotten past all the driver hassles, and other things that don't work like they should, you can't run any Windows applications! (Commenters: No WINE whining please.)

So what is Google Chrome OS? Just another fatuous, dense, oafish Linux distro, and one that the world needs like a hole in the head. Oh, but it's supposed to support cloud computing! So what? That's just admitting that the entire operating system does nothing more than support a browser! How many people will be sucked into believing that they can actually do something other than just surf the web on a PC equipped with Google Chrome OS, and then realize too late that they've been scammed?

Comparing Windows 7 on a netbook to Google Chrome OS is like comparing Taylor Swift's Tour Bus against a 1977 Chevette. Windows 7 will do everything and anything that a current Windows user will expect and do it in style. Google Chrome OS... well... you can surf the web! Wheeeeeeeeee!

Therefore, Google is pulling the entire world's production of wool over the eyes of PC users everywhere. By claiming that Google Chrome OS is a bonafide operating system they are guilty of stupidity at best and scamming at worst. It all depends how you interpret the recycling of a failed, boring, and pointless OS that has flatulating around for 18 years as a new and exciting operating system to challenge Windows.

In this whole hypefest, it is the illiterate mongrel pseudo-journalists who are essentially at fault. After all, it is clearly stated in the Google introduction that "Google Chrome runs within a new windowing system on top of a Linux kernel"... but you can excuse most of the journalists for not noticing, or maybe not even understanding what Linux is! After all, most of them are braindead ignoramuses who if they didn't luck out into getting a journalism job would be spending their lives asking "would you like fries with that?"

Google Chrome OS: You would think that with all their money and resources, Google would not have sunk so low. Absolutely ridiculous. Shame on you, Google!

"Do No Evil" my big fat hairy butt...

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eovery 7 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

I saw this, and was wondering what it was about. Thanks for letting us know.

Keep on Hubbing!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

You're welcome, and steer away from Google Chrome OS! :)


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Mike Craggs 7 years ago from UK

I'm running Ubuntu 8.04, but if I had the money I would go back to a Mac. I only went Linux because I was fed up of the hideous GUI of Windows XP. And while Ubuntu is adequate it is nothing stunning. As you say you can spend days trying to get something working (download the binary codes and compile them yourself - oh great!) that just works out of the box on Windows or Macs.

The modern media are simply doing their usual trick of hyping everything to death - the truth (let alone intelligence) doesn't come in to it.


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Frieda Babbley 7 years ago from Saint Louis, MO

Aha! I was wondering about this. Thanks for the info, Hal.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Mike Craggs: It's great to hear from an Ubuntu user who recognizes the severe limitations and hassle quotient of that OS! Thanks! This kind of baseless hype has to be called out. There are countless millions of people who could get suckered into buying a netbook just because it has Google Chrome OS and then find that they have a mere fraction of the functionality they expected from a "Windows competitor"!

Frieda Babbley: You're very welcome! :)


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Gypsy Willow 7 years ago from Lake Tahoe Nevada USA , Wales UK and Taupo New Zealand

Google should have monitored the journalist to save them from an afterlife at the golden arches


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artfuldodger 7 years ago from Earth

I agree with your take on Google's laughable "OS" but I've had a completely positive experience since ive switched to Linux (ubuntu). I'm still learning about it but it works just as well as Windows. Granted, my laptop is only a year old so it came with Vista(ughhhhhh, the 32 bit version) which makes sense because i only got 2 gigs of ram stock, bumped up to four. but i haven't had to spend a lot of time reading up on forums to make it just like it was more or less on windows. just as fast, and for the most part just as easy. maybe my experience isn't typical though, im not really sure.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Gypsy Willow: The biggest problem that I have with Google is that it's a paper tiger. Their market cap right now is over $397 billion dollars, even after the biggest stock market crash since 1929, and it's all fundamentally baseless. Google as a company is mostly smoke and mirrors. They've gone ahead and proven it by announcing a Linux OS variant which a couple of compsci grads could have concocted in their spare time.

artfuldodger: Don't get me wrong, as there are some people with specific requirements that can use Ubuntu successfully and I'm glad to see that you're happy with it. However, there is not a day that I don't spend at least an hour on Photoshop. What do I do with a Linux distro? Use the lobotomized and laughable GIMP? :)


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Mike Craggs 7 years ago from UK

"They've gone ahead and proven it by announcing a Linux OS variant which a couple of compsci grads could have concocted in their spare time."

They already have - it is called gos:

http://www.thinkgos.com/index.html


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Sure! gOS is just one of the existing Linux distros that do everything that Google Chrome OS is going to. Why even bother? And they state that netbooks with this OS on it are at least a year away! Who cares? Just get gOS or any of its stripped down to the bone Linux competitors and rebrand it. They could do that by the end of the day fer cryin' out loud!

GOOGLE, THIS IS AN EMBARRASSMENT!


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ethel smith 7 years ago from Kingston-Upon-Hull

Interesting thanks


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

You're welcome! :)


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ocbill 7 years ago from hopefully somewhere peaceful and nice

An OS, a Google Phone, maps, etc.. Do they ever innovate something unique or just use someone's diea and do it better.


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comp3820 7 years ago from Michigan

How about.....

We wait until the OS comes out to actually judge it? There's a new idea!

Just so you know, the linux kernel is the real wonder of the Linux operating system. The reason Linux has not caught on is that there has been no converted effort by a well-known company to make this a usable, easy, workable OS.

If you think Google is "just rebranding" Linux, you've got another think coming, if you'll let me speculate as you are doing. I believe google will make an operating system that is exactly what they plan: simple, secure, and safe. Google is very good at what it does, and I wouldn't be judging their OS for the sole reason that it is based on Linux, even if you have had a bad experience with that system.


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Marisa Wright 7 years ago from Sydney

Hal, I clicked on this because I'd just finished reading a report on Chrome in the paper - so glad I did. I've never heard anyone say anything negative about Linux before, so this was an eye-opener!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

ocbill: You're absolutely right. For one of the biggest companies the world has ever known, they certainly don't do much but copy others' efforts!

comp3820: There are about a hundred iterations of Linux. They all suck. Google Chrome OS is exactly the same thing as all the others as it utilizes EXACTLY the same kernel. I don't have to commission a research institute to do a five year study to determine it's going to suck just as bad. Google has already stated that essentially it's only going to be an infrastructure for a browser and won't do much of anything else. Explain THAT to the poor bozos who will get all excited by the hype and then expect to run a Windows app! GOOGLE CHROME OS WILL NOT RUN WINDOWS APPS. GOOGLE'S HYPE MAKES IT SEEM OTHERWISE. PERIOD.

Marisa Wright: Linux has its uses, but they are almost exclusively relegated to the higher echelons of nerdom. Average PC users need Linux like they need a Trojan.


asim 7 years ago

Come on.. We still dont know much about what has google done on top of the kernel and we are jumping at conclusions. Give Google a fair hearing - let it come out with its variant and lets then discuss of what's wrong in it; rather than jumping at conclusions.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

No jumping at any conclusions. I'm strictly stating what Google itself has confirmed.


Hari 7 years ago

Want to come back to this thread after 2 years :) Lets see..


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Yeah, we'll see that Google Chrome OS is still nothing more than a browser dongle. :)

You REALLY don't expect it to run Win apps natively, do you? There's zero chance of that.


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Sandyspider 7 years ago from Wisconsin, USA

Thanks for the information. I like the picture.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Hey, I'm a computer whiz! I've whizzed on lots of computers! :)


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visuallyaddictive 7 years ago from Jakarta

in one side i must admit that my use of windows is making me so dependable on windows, but what can i say, its still the best "user friendly" operating system, but still im hoping that there will be a new os that will set us all free from windows


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marcofratelli 7 years ago from Australia

Hal, while I know nothing about Linux, I do wonder... Google have a very competent marketing team. Some of their ideas are not original (eg Yahoo had PPC advertising first, Google didn't innovate that, they just tweaked it and marketed it better). Plus Chrome OS is open source (that doesn't mean it's free does it?). What if Google offer it for free? If they market it as an OS for someone who mainly uses the web rather than a heavily application based entertainment package like Windows, they might strike a chord with a niche market of younger folk that only want a cheap laptop with a cheap OS and free Open Office, iTunes, an instant messenger and access to Facebook, twitter and MySpace all night long. LOL. Great hub by the way.


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Koby 7 years ago from Ohio

I too am dissapointed, thought google would be more creative than that.

BUT! If I know google, they'll have found away to pretty it up and make it ready and fit to use for the average man.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

visually addictive: I'd love nothing better than to see Microsoft Windows end up on the scrap heap of history for all of the problems it has caused in the past. I'm a REAL fan of Windows 7, but only as compared to the train wreck that Vista was. I'd love to use a 64-bit OS that was a mere fraction of the size of Windows, and was compatible, capable, fast, and stable. But right now your choice is Windows 7 or nothing. Google's OS isn't even in the same league.

marcofratelli: Thanks! Google Chrome OS WILL be offered for free (but watch out... there may be ads lurking somewhere...). The Open Source means that any programmer can get into the innards and mess around with it. That is the exact situation which caused the lunatic proliferation of zillions of Linux OSs and one of the main reasons why Linux will forever be an also-ran. If anyone wants a free OS that runs the apps you've outlined, they can 100% FREE download any of scores of Linux distros today that do exactly that, and in the same way that Google Chrome OS will, as IT'S THE SAME THING.

Koby: That's the thoroughly disappointing thing about this OS. A warmed over Linux distro when we already have had dozens and dozens and dozens available for almost two decades? What stupidity. Sure, they can dress up the GUI, but it's just the same old incompetent and boring Linux beneath so it makes NO SENSE AT ALL.


Erick Smart 7 years ago

I am sure it is just hopefulness on their part. I know I am looking for a new computer right now and I do not want Vista, am afraid of 7 and really do not want to spend the fortune to move to mac. There is a void that could be filled since MS has a lot of people unhappy right now.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

I know it's hard to believe after the Vista debacle, and I've been one of the greatest detractors of Vista, but I'm as impressed as hell with W7. I wouldn't hesitate for a moment to advise anyone with any hardware to buy it.


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I_like_logos 7 years ago from Bogotá, Colombia

hahaha, I really liked the way you explained it, but there's nothing amazing, it's just the same Google tactic, if u want can't compete, just buy the competition and it's done. as it happened with youtube when Google Video couldn't compete.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Granted but with the Linux kernel being in the public domain, they didn't even have to buy the very basis of their OS. They're just going to craft some Google-y windowing system just for "window" dressing and claim that they have reinvented the wheel: A complete and total scam.


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

LOL Love your rants. :) I did install W7 though on a new notebook that I just bought. No major problem so far except for flash player in IE8-64, pretty impressive for beta :)


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Just call me Rantin' Hal! :) I've run W7 64bit RC1 with IE8 on my main Core i7 system and never had a problem with Flash or anything else. What problems are you experiencing?


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HuiArt 7 years ago from Malaysia

Linux are not totally sucks. Is a great OS for certain application. Is not for the fainted heart user. I have a linux server before I know the advantages compared to windows.

However whether is linux or what ever software, we can only judge the capability of ChromeOS only after its official realise.

I believe with it light OS, it can be used for many low end application.

Windows is just too resources demanding and expensive to use. Just imagine the amount of license you have to pay to run coupe of PC at home.

Bare in mind that PC are not just used for gaming, netserving and your daily work. There are now used in many high end home applicances, machinaries even in cars. A light weight OS will have big impact on this area. Is like working with Window Mobile, Plam Os are even symbian in handphones and pda

Personally I'm willing to give it a try. If anyone know whether there's a beta version of it, please let me know.


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koncling 7 years ago from Nice Winding Room

some say it's part of GoogleSpy....


techie 7 years ago

may be its end of windows dominance


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

HuiArt: Just a few comments earlier, I stated "Linux has its uses, but they are almost exclusively relegated to the higher echelons of nerdom" and I stand by that. Average users don't need anything at all that Linux offers them. As for resource demand on Windows, you obviously haven't used W7 RC1 so you don't have a clue as to what you're talking about. Also, I'm not referring to a computer in a refrigerator for cryin' out loud. What do I care about that? I'm discussing PERSONAL COMPUTERS WITH A KEYBOARD A MOUSE AND A MONITOR. Actually, I feel sorry for whoever hires you to run a server for them since it seems that you know as much about computers as I know about what happened to Amelia Earhart!

koncling: I tried hard not to delve into the Google Spy aspect. Let's see... I'm gonna compute in Google's cloud so 100% of all the data I have is sitting on their servers... yeah, when pigs fly!

techie: Typical reaction of a fool who has less of a clue than HuiArt. Did your momma have any kids that lived? :)


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Misha 7 years ago from DC Area

Oh, it just did not install, therefore did not work. Struggled with it for a while, tried solutions on the net to no avail, but eventually it seemed just to fix itself LOL. Guess restart might have helped :D


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

My PC religion has always been to reboot, reboot, and reboot some more, especially when installing anything right down to the smallest shareware. You never know what program needs to load what where during startup! :)


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prosperwebsolutio 7 years ago

to be honest i am supprised, i was waiting for something amazing, a second coming like you said. terrible really.

From other side, i can see why, Google will just get their techi people to work on this for free in their spare time. and if this takes off they will do a re-write you will see. they first need to the see the interest, and when they do, they will do a massive release. btw, google chrome browser, is not that great, safari, and ie8 are better, not to mention ff 3.5 google is steping there where they have no expereince, they should stick to what they know best.

these companies spent decades on development and research not becouse they are stupit but becouse it takes ages to create a good product.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

What amazes me is that they had a perfectly good OS in Android which could have been extended to the PC market with very little effort (by $400 billion company standards), and they took the cheap way out and just reskinned a Linux distro. Totally idiotic. Just like the zillions of Googleheads who are demonstrating their stupidity by flooding all the PC forums with blind, deaf and dumb support of the claims that Google Chrome OS will kill Windows! Sheesh. What a bunch of morons.


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unclesam 7 years ago from India

can you guess alife without google?

read more at

http://hubpages.com/education/google-blackout


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Alexander Mark 7 years ago from beautiful, rainy, green Portland, Oregon

You said it right. I took enough computer classes this last year to know what you are talking about. Thank God you do, because I hadn't heard of Chrome as an OS. I wouldn't have known that it was Linux based and that's enough. I am reasonably intelligent, and yet am unable to properly install the supposedly most user friendly version of Linux: Ubuntu. Supposedly it will create its own partition on Vista, but it doesn't. Sob story goes on, but I will stop before everyone is crying - from boredom.

We have to wonder if this isn't just a conspiracy to push us all into cloud computing, become completely dependent on Google the way we are on Microsoft. Microsoft isn't perfect, but having used Apple apps such as Itunes has me convinced that Msft is the best thing out there, (I do have to say that Itunes is the best music player available).


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

unclesam: There is no reason at all, other than the fact that the White House has been invaded and taken over by Communists, why Google should not face antitrust action and be broken up. Let's pray that a life without Google will happen soon! :)

Alexander Mark: Thanks! You're absolutely right, Ubuntu is by far one of the best Linux distros and it's still about as advanced as Windows 95. Of course going into the cloud is a major move for the world, but should it be? Is it the right choice?

I just wrote a Hub on whether the future of cloud computing really is the future that is in the best interests of computer users:

http://hubpages.com/technology/Prepare-To-Abandon-...


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mirandalloyd 7 years ago from Alaska

Actually, I myself prefer Ubuntu to the overly padded and unstable Windows builds like Vista. Vista is -horrible-. If I could downgrade to XP I would, but they made sure that I wouldn't be able to do that on my particular model of PC. Errors with the drivers for my sound card and video card, you see.

Ubuntu Linux is one of the best Linux distros out there.

Hal Licino: By your arguments, then Microsoft and a lot of the other big businesses out there like Wal-Mart should be broken up as well.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

I'm surprised at your driver errors, as I know of no drivers which are only available for Vista and not for XP, with the possible exception of some DirectX 10 ones? Ubuntu Linux may be the best distro, but that's saying that it's the best among the losers. Microsoft should have been broken up at least a decade ago, and Google about 4 or 5 years ago.


Oh,John,no! 7 years ago

Well I for one am a Google fanboy. Now, let me tell you why there is a possibility this may not suck.

Google is not as innovative as everyone seems to think it is. All it does is take someone else's idea, and (this is the important part) refines it. Refines it to the point of perfection. Yahoo came before Google, but Google (the search engine) is much superior to Yahoo. Google Mail basically refined the basic concept of a browser-based email system (like Yahoo Mail, etc) and made it better. I for one had too many problems with EVEN SIGNING UP to Yahoo Mail to count, but signed up to Google Mail in roughly a minute.

Google Maps is another example. Take the basic concept, refine it, make it awesome. Google Chrome (great browser) takes all the best buits from other browsers and glues them firmly together, whil sprucing it up with the likes of a spellcheck on many forums (not this site, sadly) and awesome speed. The list goes on.

So I think this will be the same. Google will take the Linux kernel, refine it, make it awesome, and release it to massive success. That is, when it finally comes out on PC - many of you seem to have missed out on the fact that it's for netbook, Hal not included.

Just my two pence (rule brittannia.) I am also very tired and Chrome hasn't got its spellcheck on this site (for some reason), so excpect many spleeying erors. ;)


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

1) Google has announced that it is for netbooks but will be extended to PCs.

2) Linux will not run Windows apps without a clunky and slow emulation.

So much for makin' it awesome! :)


Oh,John,no! 7 years ago

When they say "We will use the Linux kernel", what they DON'T mean is "We will take Linux and slap our logo onto it". What they mean is that they will take the basic format of Linux and do their own thing to it, most probably making it better, less clunky, abel to run apps, et cetera. It will probably inculde some Windows elements as well, knowing Google and their tendancy to grab things from a group of elements and glue them together (often with surprisingly good results).


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Oh,John,no!

Read my lips:

LINUX CANNOT RUN WINDOWS APPS NATIVELY.

It hasn't for two decades and is not about to when Google or anyone else puts out another distro. To do so would be to violate a few zillon of Microsoft's patents. Bozo Ballmer may be the stupidest CEO in tech history, but I don't think even he is dumb enough to just give away all of Microsoft's patents! :)


Oh,John,no! 7 years ago

Hmm, you have a point there. In which case Google will create its own apps to replace the Microsoft ones. I mean, look at Google Docs - it is essentially another version of Microsoft Office, only it's browser based. It's concievable that Google will do it again and create their own apps to mimic Microsoft ones. And before you mention "Lawsuit!", that is what Google have made a living doing - grabbing other's work and making their own (better) version. In fact, I have no doubt that Google will do this in time (maybe not immediately, seeing as it's for the netbook until they choose to expand it) and that it will work just as well as the Microsoft version.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Dude, Microsoft's own software is an incredibly tiny amount of the Windows-compatible software in use right now: A market of countless thousands of apps worth hundreds of billions of dollars. Even Google can't come up with all the software apps in the world, and the whole world isn't going to throw away each and every one of the applications they have purchased just because Google wants to take over the planet.

It's a fool's game, my friend.


Oh,John,no! 7 years ago

So what, exactly, is stopping Google from working out agreements with all those other windows-compatible apps to make them GCOS (Google Chrome Operating System) compatible too? Microsoft may not be fool enough to give their own apps to what is fast becoming a main rival, but who's to say the others won't see benefit?

And also, how many of those "countless thousands" are widely used? There will almost certainly be just a few "main" apps, which nearly everyone uses, while all the others will have much smaller markets. Narrowing it down like that, the list will probably be around a hundred, maybe less. To satisfy the larger portion of the market, Google will simply have to make those main apps GCOS compatible (most likely with the promise of money from its cavernous coffers - welcome to business).


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Completely impossible. Do you have any idea how many software publishers are out there? Apple's been trying for a quarter century to get enough publishers to port over their apps and still only has a tiny fraction of them on the Mac OS-X platform! Linux has been around for almost two decades and is only supported by two donkeys, a goat, and a stray dog. :)


Oh,John,no! 7 years ago

Dude, Google is an advertising company, a long way removed from Apple and their ilk. It will be easier than all the pies in the world (and that's a lot of pies) for them to just place an ad on the Google search page (like they have with their Chrome browser) for their OS, inviting people to sign up their apps to GCOS for money. The fast-growing success of Chrome proves just how effective this system can be.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Jeez, man! Do you have ANY idea what it takes to port an app to a different OS? You might as well ask for the moon, the sun and the stars. Completely unrealistic at best and a total pipe dream if we want to be honest.


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jayb23 7 years ago from India

Thanks Hal for sharing this info with all of us. Its a make believe world and its really a shame that Google can stoop to such levels. Great hub


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smellypunks 7 years ago

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I was hopping for so much. But give Linux a brake will you, if you tried to develop an OS on a very small budget with to many other companies trying to do the same thing, with no support from the software vendors you would most like not do much better.

I am a designer and so use Adobe software. If I could have an OS from Google which is better then windows (not hard) and runs Adobe software I would get it.

But to get Adobe to do that would mean thousands nay millions of designer like me would have to use the OS and you know what if anyone can do it Google can.

There is a shift happening you all know it, bring it on.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

jayb23: You're welcome. And as all my habitual Hub readers know they can always count on me to tell it like it is, brutally honest and straight ahead! :)

smellypunks: If you actually are a designer and use Adobe CS4 every day (like I do) then you'll understand that the software is making an overwhelming number of calls to the OS every second. All of these "software hooks" have to be implemented within the OS structure to support this level of app interaction. That is the main reason why Windows is such a monolithic OS. It has to provide the underpinnings for the complex apps that run on it. Expecting some warmed over Linux distro from Google or anyone else to be able to provide all this software support is ludicrous. It will NEVER happen. Period.


Cuschu 7 years ago

If Google can build a user friendly environment of off a solid Linux kernel, why not? If Google uses its name to build the popularity of Linux, I don't see what the problem is. The more people leave the MS dependent outlook on the technology landscape the better.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Because if you think that the hundreds of millions of people who have hundreds of billions of dollars invested in Microsoft software are going to give it up because Sergei Brin is having a wet dream, you couldn't buy a clue.


augurk 7 years ago

Microsoft has been abusing and dominating the market all the time. You can't expect google to throw microsoft off it's throne immediately. It takes time and if someone is up for this fight I wish him all the luck in the world and hope he succeeds in crushing microsoft's dominating postion.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Not in the next 5 years if then. Anyone wanna place a bet with ol' Uncle Hal? :)


MGC 7 years ago

Hal I’m betting not ever. A number of "search engines" now exist that are more specific and produce better results (in their chosen target domain) than Google.

If I want to buy something I'll search for a product using a website like e-bay or I'll search for a company using a reputable business directory website (e.g. yellowpages.com.au here in Australia). If I want a book then I use amazon.com.

If I want to find the meaning of a word I'll use an online dictionary (e.g. dictionary.reference.com)

If I want an adequate encyclopaedia I use wikipedia.org.

Finally for a general search there are alternatives that are just as effective and as good as Google without the plethora of adverts decorating the search result – the original reason why Google was favoured in the beginning!

How sustainable a future does Google have? They have an idle, self-indulgent workforce that is trickling out mediocre "software alternatives" with nothing revolutionary. Their only revenue stream comes from ridiculously overprice advertising obtained by bending companies over and giving them a great big woofa.

To the supporters of Google Chrome OS - if you believe enterprises are going to fork out significant amounts of money to port their current software solutions to another platform without any increase in functionality then I am sure you still believe in the tooth fairy and Father Christmas. Microsoft's licensing fees are substantial - but the cost of redevelopment for any company that has based their technology on Microsoft's platform would not be affordable.

I doubt the cost of entry into general search is high for well established software companies. So I believe Google is well on the way to becoming irrelevant.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Very well said. I too have often wondered about the house of cards that Google has used to build up a $400 billion market cap. I'm not a HUGE believer in their online advertising business model. I can't see it generating the kind of income that it takes to uphold a market cap of nearly half a trillion dollars. After all, as you have essentially stated: GOOGLE DOES NEARLY NOTHING. Where is all the value? Beats me!


Maul 7 years ago

Android is build on top of a Linux kernel.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Yes, but Android is nowhere near an Ubuntu reskin! :)


TheSwager 7 years ago

???

what do people think the Linux kernel is?

ubuntu uses the Linux kernel but so do linksys routers

the Linux kernel is just the most basic level of I/O which operates the disk. anything above that are programs running on the Linux kernel. google is not going to just make new window decoration like so many people suggest.

the windowing *system and desktop environment and the programs running it are the entire user experience. google probably wont even use the X windowing system. they will make it truly different.

not to mention the Linux kernel and for that matter any Unix-like Kernel or OS is much more stable and secure than WindowsNT Kernel which is used today on windows.

it will not just be ubuntu with a different window decoration and people who say it will be dont know what a Kernel is.

that being said i agree with one aspect of the article, which is that Cloud computing is not yet ready to replace the programs that run on the average windows or OS X or Linux desktop


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Dude, Unix is unix and it won't run Win apps under anything but emulation so your point is moot. As for cloud computing, all I can say is: REMEMBER T-MOBILE! :)


from down here... 6 years ago

..it looks like everyone has an opinion about this. I have a notebook running Vista that I finally sorted to run with the hints from Hal's suggested Black Viper page. It came bundled with the notebook and just kept getting slower.

I bought a iMac and can't believe how fast, logical and easy to use it is. I used to use FF but when I can I use Chrome - apart from some really useful plug-ins (Cooliris, web dev) I'd use Chrome full-time.

Hal, you have some depth of knowledge about computers that only comes from being a real techie, or having solved all your own problems for many years.

I think sometimes your "telling it like it is" approach detracts from some of your better arguments. Look at some of the readers who thank you for "warning" them about the Chrome OS... many might believe you!

Couple of people have made excellent submissions and been shot down in "flames". Point?

I use Windows because I don't want to hassle with Linux, Vista is bad enough. I use Google because their search engine works. Macs work right out of the box, right now the world's best OS in my opinion.

But Google is a marketing company, and this whole thing needs to be looked at in terms of long-term strategy; Netbooks are already becoming pervasive, and lightweight operating systems are a requirement. Most computer users

DON'T need all that Windows-based software that Apple are "begging" developers to create for Mac OS, they use it for surfing the web, social media, email, IM, web based games.

And if you need apps - 90% of users need a word processor, spreadsheet and presentation app. All on the cloud, why buy it and carry around a bloated noteboat?

If Google are not innovative (um, really?) that's missing the point. People need information - it's the world's biggest commodity, and their controlling the conduit is what makes them so phenomenally successful.

Their business model is to provide what people want - information services including search and delivery, free, supported by advertising. Let's not suggest that advertising is not information too.

So if they are recognising that the world is moving rapidly to netbooks their browser is a good idea if it's slim and fast. A slim, fast operating system that allows easy access to their cloud services will effectively increase opportunities to deliver advertising. If the advertising is discrete enough for users and effective enough for advertisers they will again have winning strategy.

And if they don't we can all BUY Windows 7, a huge patch on all the other crap we've had to put up with since XP.

Different businesses, different models and just because they end up with the same product categories, they are there for different reasons.

Down here among the surfers calling someone "Dude" is at best ironic, but mainly derogatory. We prefer "Mate".

Enjoy your raves Hal! Thanks mate.


eval- 6 years ago

I know this thread is dead, but this post was totally unfair. Your scorn is very reminiscent of how Steve Ballmer and the Symbian heads reacted to Android: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLRtUGviSc8 ...

"it's just another Linux" (/sheesh/)

Android came out of nowhere and shipped on 7 million phones last year, capturing 4% of the market. Windows Mobile sunk to 8% and is expected to sink even further. This year will be fantastic for Android and the Gartner Group expects Android will have shipped on over 500 million devices by the end of 2012. Maybe iPhone or RIM or Symbian will do something revolutionary and take back the momentum, but there is no sign of it yet, and they can never compete with Android's benefit to manufacturers: it's free.

Remember, every Android phone out there is running Linux! I find Android much more fun and usable than iPhone, Blackberry, or Windows Mobile. Pre comes close but it is lacking in apps. I recently replaced Windows Mobile on my HTC phone with Android, thanks to the efforts of volunteer open source developers, and am MUCH happier.

So if Google could make Android on top of a Linux kernel, maybe Chrome OS has a chance? I completely agree that as of right now, Chrome OS isn't anything special. It is particularly embarrassing considering the rather unknown but impressive accomplishments of Intel's Moblin group (now merged with Maemo) and Ubuntu's Netbook Remix (available on several Dell Minis, by request). Both versions of Linux are far more featureful and as fast as Chrome OS (and possibly even easier to use.) If Chrome OS becomes as successful as Android, it may not be as merited for it's own technological feats as has been Android's success.

Finally, Linux may have some obtuse distributions that average users would struggle with, but please acknowledge it has come a very very long way in the last few years compared to 10 or even just 5 years ago. Biologists who have never heard of UNIX join our research lab and within a few hours they are comfortable with Gnome or KDE and need no more help. Some of them have installed Ubuntu onto their laptops by themselves and started using it regularly within days of joining. The only thing I personally need Crossover for is MS Office, and my 4gig VirtualBox XP image is for Adobe Photoshop and Illustrator. The big caveats are that Adobe has never made a decent flash player for GNU/Linux, and that I never play any games. Given that the core of today's GNU/Linux distributions were mostly written by volunteers in their spare time years ago, I think it is quite a feat.

I would add that 'billions' are not enough to write an operating system from scratch, as we saw with OS X (which of course, is just a GUI on top of UNIX, a continuation of a very old Carnegie Melon MACH UNIX kernel.) To write from scratch you need a totally closed hardware platform where you don't need to write a driver for every printer or webcam, or the might of a userbase as large and devoted as Apple's in order to prod manufacturer's to provide the drivers themselves. Not a small or quick to accomplish feat. Google would be foolhardy to try to write an OS from scratch, unless it had a creative (and legally sound) solution to the driver problem. That said, I hope someone finally bites the bullet and tries to give us a new and unique OS someday. Until then, thank goodness for the Linux kernel.. I finally enjoy using my phone!


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

from down here and eval, I appreciate your comments. My own background is a bit of both, techie and solving my own PC problems starting in GASP 1983! :)


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GeneriqueMedia 6 years ago from Earth

Flame war starting. ;D

Anyway, Linux isn't a failure. It's quickly surpassing all other OSes. Desktop and Netbook use is stagnant/slow, but it's beating the pants off of the iPhone--and soon to be tablet PCs.

The code is also not tired; it's new. Newer than any other competitors. Besides maybe OS X, but the mach kernel has a long history.

To call Google Chrome a scam is silly; that's like calling Vista a scam (which it was, but any windows version is..) the fact is, Google is hell bent on getting people to port over to the cloud.

And to do it faster than any other rival.

Oh? And all that technology? Linux.


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GeneriqueMedia 6 years ago from Earth

Also, I forgot to mention--

When Chrome OS makes it to market it will be the first consumer grade "thin client OS," not only that--but it'll keep two copies of the OS on the hard drive, for redundancy and security.

Everything will be sand boxed.

Those accomplishments, while not unique, will be unique to the market in the sense that it's a consumer level OS that has features of enterprise grade stuff.

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