Large Hadron Collider - Once A Micro Black Hole Becomes Visible, It Can't Be Stopped

The University of Oxford published on analysis of the Relativistic Heavy Ion Collider or RHIC (a somewhat similar device located in Brookhaven, New York) which is ten times smaller and much weaker than the Large Hadron Collider. In this University of Oxford report the scientists conclude that there has been insufficient information gathered and that the negative expected values have been severely underestimated.

The RHIC is not even in the same league as the Large Hadron Collider and the University of Oxford study goes onto explain and I quote: "However our analysis implies that the current safely report should not be the final word in the safety assessment of the Large Hadron Collider. Such work would require expertise beyond theoretical physics and an inter-disciplinary group would be essential."

The Oxford report writers however, fail to indicate exactly who on the planet today has this "expertise beyond theoretical physics" and can head the "inter-disciplinary group" to arrive at realistic and accurate conclusions about the danger posed by the Large Hadron Collider.

Actually, there is one guy, but last I heard he was really busy writing Hubs and counting his AdSense pennies.

Leading nuclear physicists Benjamin Harms, Roberto Casadio, and Sergio Fabi, recently published a paper which proposed that the expected evaporation of the hypothetical micro black hole is actually based on a theory which has no evidence to support it and is strongly disputed in the scientific community.

This theory is called Hawking Radiation and this evaporation which the three physicists concludes could take a much longer time than previously believed. Their paper concludes with a warning that and I quote, "the expected decay times are much longer (possibly in actual seconds) than is typically predicted by other models."

A microscopic black hole in a matter of "actual seconds" can eat up even more matter than I can. And that's a lot. It is theoretically possible that just in those few seconds alone, the black hole would go from being microscopic to being visible.

The situation is somewhat akin to the saying airline pilots had before the onset of midair collision avoidance systems: "It starts out as a speck on your windshield: When the speck grows wings, you're dead."

Once a black hole becomes visible, there is no way in the known universe to stop it. It will continue sucking up all the matter and energy around it until in a shockingly short time, it goes on to ingest the planet, and then the solar system, and onwards.

It is clear that these physicists do believe that it is possible to forecast an expansion within the Large Hadron Collider to a size where the planet would be threatened by the micro black hole expanding to encompass the Earth. This possibility is dealt with in an earlier paper that was published by Roberto Casadio and Sergio Fabi. And who am I to argue with my paisanos?

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eovery 7 years ago from MIddle of the Boondocks of Iowa

So this explains where all my money have been going.

I have heard this, but it is all theory.

Keep on hubbing!


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Well fortunately most of the money has been poured into this by the EU but the whole global financial situation is all intermingled anyway. The almost $100 billion that Dubai World can't repay has an impact on everyone around the world too. It's all one big UNhappy family! :)


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Paraglider 7 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

So, what is the radius of the event horizon of one of these micro black holes? And what is its total mass?


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

The minimum mass is a Planck mass, but that is only the lowest value possible. Even a Planck mass micro black hole would start to expand as it swallowed up matter/energy. The event horizon would also expand outwards in an equivalent manner, and one calculation calls for the last atom on Earth to enter the black hole approximately four years after its creation. One good thing about this would be that I wouldn't have to pay off my MasterCard balance. :)


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Paraglider 7 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

For that to happen requires there to be enough adjacent matter available before the black hole dissipates. Pretty unlikely, I think.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

That is the essential question. Would the black hole be able to pull in sufficient matter from its surroundings or would it "Hawking-radiate" away into nothingness? If I had to place a bet, I would certainly place my money on the latter, but it's one helluva bet to place on the entire planet. I've seen people at craps tables have runs that are statistically almost impossible, but it happened nonetheless. This is one big stakes crap game: Lose and the planet goes poof!


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Paraglider 7 years ago from Kyle, Scotland

On the other hand, having spent so much money, wouldn't it be a shame if nothing spectacular came of it? ;)


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Geez... that's like saying we spent so much money on this H-bomb why don't we set it off in Manhattan? :) (I know... we're both kidding!)


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Salty Tanned 7 years ago from MontrĂ©al

Hubert Reeves assures there is absolutely no possibility of creating a micro black hole using the LHC. Although it is the most powerful collisionner to date, it would need far more power to recreate the conditions that could form a black hole. BTW before the first A-bomb was tested many scientists feared the chain reaction might not stop at the enriched uranium but destroy the planet.

What of the LHC is expected and hoped, is of course the identification a Higgs boson and much knowledge about the universe. Could this lead to controlled fusion?

Remember many feared Christopher Columbus would fall off the earth should he sail that far.


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Hal Licino 7 years ago from Toronto Author

Do we want to go strolling through the scientific literature of just the last couple of decades to find the examples where there was more or less universal agreement on the outcome of a specific theory which was proven dead wrong with a new discovery? We're not talking about something that will cause a common cold, or make a computer crash. We're talking sucking the solar system into a hole here. :(


Dov Henis 7 years ago

On Black Holes, Biosphere(s) And All Mass-Formats

Cosmic Evolution Simplified

A. A black future

http://www.sciencenews.org/view/feature/id/50326/t...

Without destroying the Earth, the Large Hadron Collider might help humans explore the cosmos

B. On The Origin And Nature Of Cosmic Evolution:

It Is Space-Distance, Not Space-Time.

Life's Is The Ubiquitous Cosmic Evolution Mode.

The mode of a gene's response to organism-culture's feedback signal, i.e. "replicate without change" or "replicate with change" in case of proven augmented energy constrainment by the offspring, is the mode of Life's normal evolution, which is the mode of evolution universally.

Genes' Expression Modification

http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/...

Again, the scope of of genes lifehood is not just the lifehood of genes.

Genes, and Life in general, are but one of the forms of mass, of constrained energy formats. The lifehood of genes is the foundation of the subject of evolutionary biology, which is a major component of the subject of life, which is a minute component of the subject of evolution of the universe, which is the subject for which humanity seeks a unified field theory.

Since the big-bang resolution of E/m superposition ALL the energy of the universe is destined for the galactic clusters expansion plus laying down of the gravity natrix for the eventual cosmic impansion, and ALL the mass is destined to revert to energy for these ends. The mass-to-energy reversion is resisted by the mass, this resistance being the archtype of selection for survival by all materials, including life. This resistance is due, exciting to us, to the fact that - as we know from everyday experience - formation of mass requires investment of energy, that dissipates when the mass disintegrates. And as we also know from everyday experience all energy forms other than gravity end up eventually as gravity energy. This is expected since ALL the contents of the universe are manifestations of the gravity energy freed at Inflation.

And again, a unified field theory is sought since unlike the evergrowing list of specific science/technology divisions drawn by the "scientists" trade-unions like the AAAS, the universe and Earth evolve as an integrated intertwined interrelated tangled whole and not as a collection of individual divisions.

C. Updated Physical Evolution Defintion

1. Three present definitions of physical evolution, at

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/evolutio...

- a process of change in a certain direction.

- a theory that the various types of animals and plants have their origin in other preexisting types and that the distinguishable differences are due to modifications in their successive generations, and also the process described by this theory.

- a process in which the whole universe is a progression of interrelated phenomena.

2. Suggested updated physical evolution definition, of Life's normal evolution and universal energy-mass evolution.

a theory, and the process described by it, that the whole universe changes in a progression of interrelated phenomena of mass formats attaining temporary augmented energy constraint in their successive generations with energy drained from other mass formats, to temporarily postpone, survive, reverting of their mass to the cosmic energy fueling the galactic clusters expansion.

D. Black holes of ALL sizes are constrained-enegy mass formats. Like biosphere(s) they require energy to survive temporarily, to avoid as long as possible their energy used to fuel the ongoing cosmic expansion.

Dov Henis

(Comments From The 22nd Century)

Updated Life's Manifest May 2009

http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/...

Implications Of E=Total[m(1 + D)]

http://www.the-scientist.com/community/posts/list/...


';' 6 years ago

the world will end 2012 3:35 p,m


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Hal Licino 6 years ago from Toronto Author

Dov Henis and ';' : Ya... ok... :)

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