Yahoo likes me, Google not so much

It's been indexed, sort-of.
It's been indexed, sort-of.

I sold a funnel and I wrote about it

Topics are no problem. I can't walk to the mailbox for my royalty check without being accosted by multiple writing opportunities. Recently my attention focused briefly on a funnel. My world needed to be enlightened about the funnel.

After writing about the funnel, an entire series of kitchen tool-related topics welled up into my fingers. I feel compelled to investigate how my funnel fares in the major search engines. You can come along.

Google, Yahoo, and Bing. Oh, my.

We mostly only care about Google but we really want to care about Yahoo and Bing also. Any traffic originating from any search engine is a good thing, but effort expended to please Google turns out to be time well spent because the other two sites process only a pittance of web queries. In other words, you can sweep your attic but you're better off sweeping your kitchen.

In the interest of diversity we will observe the behavior of my funnel page as it pertains to Google, Bing, and Yahoo. We will act as if they all matter. They all matter a little bit.

HubPages invites the crawlers, or not.

Highly skilled software engineers from diverse origins program robots or crawlers. These digital snoopers wander the Internet, analyzing web pages for possible inclusion into search engines. Google, Yahoo, and Bing all control their own little beasts.

Sometimes it's advantageous to keep a page out of the search engines. Usually it's a page that changes frequently and would only confuse anyone who randomly browsed to it. Some sites also prefer a little privacy rather than being announced to the entire whole of cyberspace.
A "no index" flag or meta-tag or keyword inserted into the HTML will keep the search engines away. The browsing experience is not affected in any way. Only your search engine knows for sure.

HubPages deploys this "no index" marker as an arbitrary slap-down. If the HubLords do not like your page, they will refuse to allow your refuse to be crawled. No will see your composition except your Mom; she loves everything you write.

We can see behind the curtain

In the High Quality photo depicted below we observe that Google and Bing have indexed my funnel exposé. We do not, however, learn anything about Yahoo. We do not know if no news is good news, or if Yahoo isn't tracked at all.

Based on these informational tidbits, we might reasonably expect my funnel composition to appear in Google and Bing search results. Assuming that we properly compose search queries we should be able to test our hypothesis. It's the kind of science about which Darwin would have been confused, but probably rather proud.

HubPages provides encouragement and may allow you to be crawled. It doesn't hurt.
HubPages provides encouragement and may allow you to be crawled. It doesn't hurt.

We find ourselves in Yahoo and Bing

Our reasonably scientific experimental search query was identified as:

today I sold a funnel.

We submitted it to all three engines. As depicted below, Bing and Yahoo recognized us. Google feigned ignorance.

It feels rewarding to be king of a search phrase. This particular phrase probably will not trend upward with Justin Bieber or nanotechnology. We accept these small victories.

Google has no interest in my composition
Google has no interest in my composition
Yahoo likes me, they really like me.
Yahoo likes me, they really like me.
Bing sees promise in my work
Bing sees promise in my work

Let's try a different phrase

Internet millionaires such as myself understand the significance of a search phrase enclosed in quotes. We are requesting Google to return results containing the precise phrase. Omitting the quotes permits the search engine to grab results containing the phrase words in any order scattered anywhere on the page.

The quotes made a difference, but in an unexpected way.

Google still has no clue who we are and why we would be selling a funnel but it now recognizes 3 different pages that might know who we are. Three HubPages indices referencing our composition are returned.

None of the Google results are the original composition.

Another fascinatingly mundane observation: the results of our query are extremely small. There is no other site online containing the precise phrase "today I sold a funnel."

Google likes me, in a twisted way, as long as I'm quoted properly.
Google likes me, in a twisted way, as long as I'm quoted properly.

We're getting desperate

Does Google know that our page exists? Is there any search phrase we might submit that will tease out a positive result?

Perhaps this...

http://nicomp.hubpages.com/hub/Yahoo-likes-me-Google-not-so-much


As illustrated below, Google steadfastly refuses to acknowledge our work.

Google can't find the URL.
Google can't find the URL.

Conclusion

Research is boring.This has not been disproven.

Anyway, according to HubPages our funnel hub was crawled by Google. According to Google the page was not available for dredging up. Several innovative search phrases were submitted.

Are we sad?

We are not sad. Other methodologies for publicizing web pages do exist. Link-building is not limited to publishing, then praying that Google will decide to like us. Incoming links do matter and fortunately they can be accumulated via several different strategies.

Don't you be sad either. The Internet finds a way to love you regardless of what Google, Yahoo, and Bing might think of you. Get yourself on Good Morning America or The Daily Show or C-SPAN. Put in the effort.

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Comments 18 comments

Mark Ewbie profile image

Mark Ewbie 3 years ago from Euroland

Excellent analysis of a major problem. Google is being ridiculously unfair on HubPages. How come the other algorithms can index us - I notice my own percentage from Bing and Yahoo is moving up - when compared to Google. Still small beer though - it is Google who is the major player.

They are determined to punish HP with whatever Panda fix or fiddle they have going.


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

@Mark: HubPages doesn't need individuals any more. They will bow to Google for their greater good.


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Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

For the select few that don't know, Yahoo! & Bing are currently the same search engine. This happened a while back when Microsoft merged with Yahoo!, albeit the main goal, I thought, was to screw up the Yahoo! dating site and turn it into a matchless Match.com merger? Ha!

Outside of your obvious fetish for screenshots, I hope you sell many more funnels via the alternate SEs. Personally, I only use Bing search for my queries, as I must have unfiltered Microsoft algorithmic search technology to combat by bizarre search queries that I may type in late at night...


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

@Insane Mundane: The Bing and Yahoo web databases may be the same, but the results differ, as indicated above by the veritable plethora of screenshots, all of which are High Quality.

I also have an affinity for long sentences.


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drbj 3 years ago from south Florida

Be prudent about what you write, nicomp. Google is very sensitive and its feelings are easily hurt.


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Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

Well, I just typed in 'nicomp sucks' within the Yahoo!, Bing, and Google search bar. Bing & Yahoo! both ranked you number 1 for one of your NASCAR hubs, while Google ranked you 4th! Go try it... Ha!

Yeah, those slight differences between the results of Yahoo! & Bing must be due to some type of preferences like the value they put on Videos, Q & A sites, Images, etc. Other than that, they suppose to be the same engine, more or less.


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

@drbj: Their stock approaches $1000 per share. They can grow a skin, right?


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

@Insane: I did try it and it's a hoot. Thanks!

When I tried the same thing for you (on Bing), the first result was

http://insanemundane.hubpages.com/hub/The-Big-Bad-...


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

BTW, anyone know what happened to BreakfastPop?


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Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

Well, since this Hub is all about the fundamentals of proper search queries and the search engines therein, I took your latest question and headed straight for Google. I typed in "BreakfastPop leaves HubPages" and was disappointed with the results, albeit there was mention of some Banana Nut French Toast and Egg-free Waffles along with How to Remove Red Wine Stains in the search results, seriously...

When I used the search bar found here, I seen that the individual hasn't been active in over 3 weeks...


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

@Insane: Not only has this person been inactive for 3 weeks, some of their hubs have been removed.

Using a quoted search phrase, I got this from Google:

Your search - "BreakfastPop leaves HubPages" - did not match any documents.


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Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

Quotation haters...


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

@Insane: Indeed, we need to stand up against those that would suppress quotation marks. Diversity of key presses and all that.


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chefmancave 3 years ago from Michigan

Very spirited exchange in the comment section. The other day I was doing a little of that boring research and I discovered that other people's comments ranked higher than some of my actual hubpages. I got a good chuckle out of it.


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

@chefmancave : Along the same lines, I have a hub that was plagiarized on an overseas server. The copy has a higher Page Rank than my original.

Thanks for writing!


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Insane Mundane 3 years ago from Earth

Do people plagiarize the 'comment fields' too? Dang, how do those people from India and the "make-a-blog-a-day sweatshops" keep up?


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nicomp 3 years ago from Ohio, USA Author

@Insane: You have opened up a new content stream. Bootlegged comments.


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rustedmemory 2 years ago from Lexington, KY

Google's web is looking less and less like the real web.

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