I decided to join Bubblews a month ago. I didn’t want to put too much effort into it because a lot of people were grumbling about not getting paid. So I wrote approximately 1 post a day and resolved to stop once I hit $25 to see if they would pay. All the photos were accredited properly, nothing was plagiarised, I didn’t use pornography, I didn’t cheat the system blah, blah, blah. So I hit redeem on Monday and I have not received any confirmation of payment. I’m not feeling resentful, angry or sorry for myself because I went in knowing this could happen. Indeed, I had a lot of fun writing there and I got to write about really wacky and fun topics. In my opinion the best part of B is the comments section. There are some hilarious back and forths and miniature wars going on. But I have to admit I was spending hours on the site. Hours! A lot of people talked about how easy it is - just post and like and comment. All that stuff takes time if you want your connections to continue reading your stuff. That time could probably be spent doing something more worthwhile. So, I think the trial period is over for me. I have decided if nothing happens by Monday evening I will delete my account. The month wasn’t wasted there because now I have a lot of content I can use elsewhere even if I didn’t get paid for it on Bubblews. What I want to know is how long it takes Google to empty its cache. I couldn’t figure out how to add Bubblews to Google Webmaster to delete the URLs. Any information?
I can't help you with the Google info. The same thing happened to me with my first redemption. Never got the payment and I did not received any communication from them. I was ready to leave the site. But I already had more than $10, so I decided to try a second time. I received an email from PayPal in less than 72 hours after I hit redeem. Maybe you should try again?
Check out Alea Din's profile. Go to "My Activity" and take a look. Then ask why bubblews needs to pay people to go around the web telling people this rubbish. It's not just on hubpages either. When I was researching bubblews I found this guy's name popping up all over the web.
FYI Once you post on Bubblews, the article belongs to them because they have paid you for it. Also, good luck finding it if you simply want to delete. Did you check to see that every article was long enough? You do know that you need to have at least 400 characters and if you are even one short on any article you will not be paid for any articles in your bunch. Also, if you click exactly at $25 to redeem, they TELL you the number you see may not be correct, and that number turns out to be $24.99 you will not get paid. I have been there since July 31, have made around $350 and have had zero problems with redemptions. However, I make sure I'm doing it the right way. Either you're jumping the gun here, or you've messed something up.
Yes it does, but they are in no particular order and when you have hundreds of them, finding one specific post is extremely difficult. This is why I copy and save every post and also list them by topic. It's the only way I know of remembering what I've already written so I do not duplicate!
I had problems when they only paid 2 out of 5 redemptions and would not answer emails. I spat the dummy, copied all my 200 posts and then deleted each one manually on their site. The bank showed -$55 (minus). I requested my account be deleted via email which was eventually done after about 2 weeks (5 emails). I then submitted a 'removal content from someone else's site' for all my little lovelies with Google(see link below) - 48 hours later they were no longer indexed, but they still appear in the SERPS (cache). Anyway you can then post them elsewhere with no problems. See https://support.google.com/webmasters/answer/1663688
PS This is the latest post on the support 2 'wall' - Regarding Redemptions
"Please don't be offended if I am clearing my wall of queries. I am having difficulties responding those that need response if my wall is flooded. We are doing our best to check as many accounts as we can each day. We hope for your understanding and patience. Thank you to all the members who genuinely support the Bubblews movement."
They have virtually admitted that they can't keep up. Sadly non-payment may be related to this lack of resources rather than breaking the rules. Sad state of affairs if you are a victim of this (my payments suddenly stopped for no reason, I did not change anything). You don't get paid because they don't have the resources to process the claims!!! Not Good! It makes a mockery of their claims to be changing the world - Sniffs of a Ponzi.
The content belong to them? Nope, all my posts were way longer than 400 characters and I redeemed at about $2.70. I probably am jumping the gun here, but the amount of time I spend there is an issue to me.
I tried looking up that information yesterday and I honestly could not find anything that suggests they "own" your content. I'm inclined to believe that is not the case for the exact reason you just pointed out. I don't know for sure, but I am certainly interested to know.
Yeah, I'm really curious now, ChristinS. I wouldn't think they would own our content, but I would like a definitive answer. They're hard to get answers from, but I might try contacting someone on staff.
I had more of a bad bubblews experience. I received only my first redemption there and my three more redemptions were not given. Since i got my first so i followed the same pattern of writing and promotion and did nothing against the rules too. I kept mailing them many times but till now i have not heard from them anything. I had stopped being on the site just after they didnt paid my second redemption and the rest of the money just kept on coming from page views so i redeemed. I wrote some really useful posts there and spent lots of time too,. It hurts me so much whenever i think about the time, energy i spent there. It has been a rather pretty bad experience
You're really jumping the gun on that one. I've been paid out every time. It takes them a little longer to contact you after you redeem sometimes. Though these days they usually contact me within 3 to 4 days. If I remember correctly, the first time took a little longer. They will contact you and you'll get paid. You have to remember they're still short on staff and do some things manually still, and they're new. They'll be upgraded to have automated payments soon, so even more reason to stay there.
On the other question, I don't think there's any way that I know of to de-index those posts. It's not like the sub-domain situation here at HP or like if you owned a site. Webmaster Tools only let's you de-index if you own the site; HP subdomain is like your own site.
The G tool I mentioned above allows you to remove the url from the index once the page has been deleted on the foreign site. It no longer appears in the SERPS, but copyscape still picks it up (cache?). Hope Springs Eternal especially for those who get paid. (Ponzi Like)
Really don't know why you addressed me at all in this matter, I made no reference to you. If you're angry with Bubblews, address them not me. I deleted my articles from Zujava because they never reviewed my articles and I got tired of waiting; but I don't make snide remarks to people who are successful on Zujava; because, frankly, it doesn't matter to me either way. Strangely, you defend your supposed action with de-indexing, though I never referenced that. It doesn't even make sense to me that you could do that though, so now that you addressed me, I'll address that fact. Google says they'll remove content from a site that's not yours for legal reasons or to remove personal information; which is referenced in the link you provided. However, you claim you deleted the content then de-indexed it; which is not even related to the material in the link you provided. I have never heard, it doesn't seem logical, that anyone could de-index content on a site that doesn't belong to them. In fact, that is unethical. Many webmasters would be destroyed on the Net if that were possible. The exceptions are HP and Blogger where we have subdomains. As differentiated from, say, Bubblews and Squidoo.
Just follow the link - you don't need access via webmasters - it only applies to pages that have been deleted by the host. So if you delete a bubblews post you can follow the link and stop the page appearing in the SERPS.
There are so many issues raised here, I don't even know where to start with my penny's worth of thoughts...
First of all, I think that the most important issue is the ownership of the material:
Unless the author gives up the rights to the material, the author is always the copyrights holder of that material. BB does not have any rights to your material. They may publish it on their site, but this is as far as they can go. It is true that they pay you for the material, however the payment is for the fact that one publishes it on their site, and they make money from the article.
The only forum that is trying to get over your material, so far is Facebook. In their numerous rewritten contracts, they let you know that once you publish the material on their site, they can do whatever they want to do with it, including generating revenue, that they are not going to share with you. I am not sure that they expressly say that they get the rights to your material, but you let them do whatever they want with it.
Of course they were not taken to court yet, and I doubt that anyone has the money to do it, however I am not sure that their attitude will stand in court. Just because they were not challenged legally, they can say and they can do whatever they want. Once can take them to court also, however with the armies of lawyers they have, they will probably bankrupt the "maverick" before the first hearing. They can write motions...
As far as BB goes. I have been there for a few months and I never had problems with being paid. I like to be paid, however I am not there for the money, let's be serious, that is not money, proportionate to the amount of time one needs to write the piece. I would say it's more prostitution than money-making. However, the interaction and the discussion with people from around the world is priceless. They pay based on revenue generated. If your pieces get a lot of sponsors they pay, and you get paid. Just the simple fact that one posts the minimum does not mean that an automatic pay will come. I cashed out a few days ago, and I did not post anything, yet residual income from my participation, vies and comments from others made about two bucks over nights. Those who expect everyone else to read their posting, without spending the time to read others postings, may be in for a surprise. The purpose of BB is to generate discussion and to involve people
I see that you have a short tolerance Multiface, however, maybe BB may not be for you. I participate on a few forums, and I can't say that they all generate revenue. For instance Hub Page did not make me a dime since the beginning, although it was a time when I was posting tons. Yet, the pleasure of having the pieces published, and even featured, is priceless...
As regards Facebook taking over material, be wary also of publishing on WikiHow. They don't actually pay you for writing and the only benefit is probably a link back to HubPages or other blog/website. Once you publish, you can't delete an article. Technically you retain copyright but this isn't much benefit because basically they can do what they want with your article. As they say in their TOS: "You continue to own the copyrights of the content you submit to wikiHow. That said, by posting your content on wikiHow you give us multiple rights to use and change it"
I got three payments and the 4th after three weeks of no response I deleted all but the ones that were about my wirting, books, etc. I am in the minus but slowly that figure is reducing. The posts have a delete button so I deleted.
You might want to be a little more patient. My last redemption was delayed a bit but I received it. If you delete your account you surely wont' get it.
Also, depending on what you post, you could still earn residual pennies from search engine and social media traffic.
The one thing I know that can get you not paid aside from the obvious is over sharing socially. You're only allowed to share each bubble once per network, so you can't like tweet your bubbles out multiple times for example. Is there a chance you might have over shared, even inadvertently?
Sometimes that happens for me too. Yesterday the first post I made I shared once on Pinterest and I made over $11.00 yesterday since that one seems to have went semi-viral. That was very cool! I hope it doesn't cause me a problem though when I go for my next redemption because that is a lot of money for one post. Well, 8.75 or something was that post out of the 11, but still...
I wasn't aware you could share your own posts like that. I thought those buttons were for other people to share them. You are right, you may have a problem over this. I'd like to know how it works out for you.
According to the TOS, and what I've heard also from other posters, you are allowed to share your own posts 1 time on each network. I do one tweet, one pin, one FB post and usually not all of them. I prefer pinterest and I don't do that either every time unless it is an article I feel will do well there. My personal posts I never socially share. I've had no problem getting payments yet and I've done this the entire time.
Where people get in trouble is if they tweet their own post mulitiple times - things like that. Once and once only
No, I took them off of here and posted them there. Then I deleted them there and now they are just floating in cyberspace. I didn't reach payout... I wasn't due anything. I just wanted to try something new.
First payment got delayed. It took about 6-7 days to appear in my Paypal account. And there was NO confirmation of any sort of the redemption. The second redemption worked out just as perfectly-no issues. I'd advice you to go back and take a look at your Paypal in 2-3 days.
I got my first payment in about 24 hours. Haven't reached another one yet, because over the last month I've been there 0-15 minutes per day due to other commitments and being away. Nevertheless, even with that minimal input I'm up to over $10 dollars, i.e. about 5 months' worth of HP earnings. I do know a number of other people using the site. Most of them are cashing out like clockwork every couple of days or so, with no problems. The consensus among these people, though, is that there are some rules, which have not been fully clarified and violation of which will potentially have a negative impact on your status. Repeated use of the share buttons, too many external links and too much focus on Bubblews itself seem to be among these.
I just hit the Bubblews payout level earlier this week for the first time... and since I clicked the "send me a check" option rather than any electronic payment options, I actually got an e-mail from the moderator team asking if that was correct, or if I would rather receive my payment via PayPal. I 'splained that yes it was correct, because I don't have a PayPal account or do any electronic banking. I haven't heard back from them since then so they're probably still amazed and going "Holy sh*t, no PayPal account? This guy must be a caveman!"
I will be as surprised as anybody if a check actually shows up in the mail anytime soon.
Followed all of the rules to the letter, got paid once and earned enough for several more payments after that but never got a cent. Support would not answer my emails at all. Bubblews is a total scam, waste of time - another content site making big promises and then cheating content writers out of earnings. BIG CON JOB!!!! WARNING WILL ROBINSON -STAY AWAY!!! DANGER!!!!DANGER!!! (You'd have to be over 50 to get this refernce).
I disagree. I have received eleven redemptions with no problem whatsoever, number 12 is on the way to the bank and I already have enough banked to redeem again. I have had virtually no problems and when the latest payment comes in I will have earned $365 since July 31. I spend about 3 hours per day on the site and really enjoy getting to know the other writers, many of whom are hubbers, and their work.
"We are doing our best to check as many accounts as we can each day. We hope for your understanding and patience." --- From the redemption team (Oct 2013).
You can interpret this in several ways: => They don't have the resources to process all the claims - some miss out, especially new bubblers => Their system and processes are incompetent and can't cope. The email query system is clearly overwhelmed. => Their system has glitches and so some claims get lost, every now and then => It is a Ponzi scheme with a policy of only paying 50% of claims, or so. The fact that they keep the funds generated by those who break the rules, and randomly dropped claims, exemplifies this. => If you get paid, it is more likely they will keep paying you => Randomly, some who get paid, suddenly stop being paid => If you get paid regularly, and then payments stop, it is unlikely payments will resume => There is some evidence that you can drop an offending account and start a new one, but you need to inform them first and wait for the old one to be deleted first (only they can do it). There is no guarantee this will work => The interpretation of the rules is a 'changing feast'. There are some things that you can't control related to 'bad company' connections, 'click farm' associations. etc. So it is hard to know when and why one of the rules may have been broken and this may have been the cause of non-payment. IMO from reading stuff on the support2 wall, personal experience, G, etc.
I don't think it is my role to act as 'policeman' I believe that there should be forum moderators to deal with posts that are inappropriate. Perhaps I should refrain from making further comments unless I have a meaningful contribution to make and not express my personal opinion here.
I just want to jump in here with my comment: I love Bubblews! I can write very freely and about subjects I like to write about without the fear of the article being "too personal, etc." My dogs, my family, etc. I see so many of my Hubber friends there. I think it is amusing that some very successful Hubbers seem to be a little embarrassed about writing there. They go by user names that you would never recognize. But they are there and they add a lot of "class" to the site by writing good interesting articles. I have not had any problems being paid (so far). Keep in mind, from the time you hit the redeem button until you get notified you are being paid can take several days. It is NOT instant, so just be patient; it will come.
I lost interest in it b/c after I'd posted 5 essays, it wouldn't take anymore. No explanation, nothing. I felt like I was doing something wrong, but I had posted 5 successfully (not all in one day) so why all of a sudden did they not "take"? And there was no one to ask... stymied.
And then I felt a bit overwhelmed. There were tons of notifications... hundreds. Which ones was I supposed to respond to? What was necessary? Was anyone really reading anything or was everyone just throwing out comments in order to receive comments in order to get paid? (Not that that isn't a possibility here too, but there is was compounded.)
It just felt very convoluted to me. I wish I'd of had an experience more like yours.
I don't understand what you mean by "not taking". Their system of notifications could be a little better. We are even notified when someone comments on our comment. A little much, I think. HP has a better way of informing us when we have comments.
Was the "not taking" during a particular day when the site was having problems? Otherwise, that doesn't make sense. I don't look at the notifications much anymore. If I do, I might hit a few posts of people I haven't read in a while. Otherwise, I post one per day, answer comments, read a few of those people's posts, maybe a few more or less. I check my profile for possible connections, but I'm even way behind on that. I don't worry about it anymore. They need a better system, but it's still fun and a quick way to make some money, with some residual too (if ya don't spend too much time there!) Of course the same is true with HubPages about spending too much time and making very little. :-)
I have done a couple of months there, posting an average of one 10 minute post a day. I have just had confirmation that I am to be paid my first redemption, though it hasn't hit my account yet. I think it's an OK place to write, so long as you don't take yourself too seriously. It is full of spam and throwaway posts, but there are a few gems amongst it all if you can be bothered to look. It doesn't have the quality or depth of hubpages of course, but it is a bit of fun, and can earn you a few more pennies.
Who me? Thanks. I got paid by the way, yippee! Now I can afford to replace the number five on my keyboard. It really is a fun site but I still don't know if it is worth me spending so many hours there. I think this week I will devote all the time I'd normally spend on Bubblews trying to learn something thrilling like HTML instead.
That's my thoughts exactly. I can see the attraction of Bubblews as a fun way to take a break - but let's face it people, if you're work is mainly online, shouldn't you be getting up and spending your breaks away from the computer, not on it? Haven't you been reading all the publicity about how sitting at a PC all day kills you?
I know it's nice to see the money mount up quickly for a change, but it's also very easy to underestimate how many hours you're spending on Bubblews to earn it. Even someone like Lissie, who's usually fairly disciplined, reckons she's earning about $1 an hour there. That is not worth getting deep vein thrombosis for, people!
Of course, I could apply the same logic to the amount of time I used to spend on these forums (for which I earned nothing). But I am trying to learn my lesson!
I always jiggle my legs when I'm on the computer. Take that Deep Vein Thrombosis! But I read your post, Marissa, advising people to go meet family or friends instead of spending all their free time on the site. I work in the evenings, so all of my mornings were spent on it and a part of the afternoon (I'm a slow writer). Then I'd come back at night to see who had left a comment. I certainly don't do this on FB.
If you got paid then its great but I don't think they will pay you every time as I have seen people getting paid for their initial redemption but not for the later ones. They might just stop it whenever they want so till then you can continue with them. Once they stop payments for you, you can move your content to a different platform.
Sorry I have been paid every single time and after my next redemption I will have topped $400. Furthermore, I resent having people on HP assume that every Bubblews writer is producing garbage. Many of us also write for HP as well. Yes, there are a lot of young people on there writing about nothing, but they are fewer and fewer and short, quality posts are increasing. My writing there is what allows me to be able to continue writing here and on my blog, so I wouldn't knock Bubblews too much. It has its place.
I stopped using Bubblews because I couldn't stand receiving so many notifications about nothing in particular. It ought to be redesigned so that you have more choice what you receive. I have never reached my first payment, so might just return to see if I can earn a bit.
You obviously set out to be provocative, Will - and I really should not rise to the bait. However, I just wanted to say that I sincerely hope that you never suffer a stroke - it is a terrible thing to happen to anyone and not something that anyone should be flippant about. Also, you obviously do not see the irony of your words as you seem to be suggesting that Bubblews is to Bubblers what Hubpages forums are to certain Hubbers! Please feel free to be as scathing as you like with your response, I will not rise to the bait a second time!
Alison, I completely agree having had family members suffer greatly after such events. It's pathetic that some people have to use other people's suffering to be provacative, but it's what some members around here do routinely - thinking they are witty. Don't let it get you down. Most of us know and understand that it isnt' something to be mocked.
Really it would be much more simple (and cheaper) for you to absent yourself from forum threads about Bubblews if you do not wish to read (hear) about Bubblews or Bubblers - although of course, that can never be 100% guaranteed!
I'm just sayin' that whenever I log onto Bubblews, the front page is full of posts about one or the other. If they don't start exercising some kind of quality control over there real quick the whole damn site is gonna go down the poop chute.
Well, I had a go on Bubblews and hit the redeem button yesterday. Gonna see what happens. It seems like they have lots of petty rules and these are interpreted by humans rather than automated. They don't make it easy for you. I hope I get paid, but I'll have to wait and see..
I think that Bubblews is easy to knock but there is a place for everyone in this world. It is not all rubbish, and some stuff on there is actually quite good. If you have a lot of followers you can build up cash quickly. I ended up writing on Bubblews after a naughty person on Bubblews "borrowed" my user name and some of my hubs. Things were quickly resolved, and I have done pretty well on Bubblews.
Now I feel bad. I once made a remark on FB about wishing I could go into a coma, having to endure a terrible time in my life. The thought of someone having suffered a real life coma never crossed my mind... sure enough a lady had lived thru one and she was plenty bent out of shape over my off handed comment. I made a joke about being so upset here once that I was "ready to take my own life"... again... a mindless joke. They banned me for a few days. It is hard having an off sense of humor. For instance, it would never even occur to me to make a racial joke or a joke about a disability... (for instance, I hate it when I hear someone say, "That's retarded.") But a joke at my own expense.. or someone with a similar sense of humor or say.. a troll... I practically have to glue my mouth shut. All that to say... bearing with one another and our differences... sarcastic, sensitive, angry, unforgiving, b*tchy, frank, unmotivated etc. that's just a part of being a community and when you learn to love the crazy in your neighbor, life is not only tolerable, it's enjoyable.
We will all end up dead, Beth. For many of us, it will be after horrible illnesses like strokes, dementia, cancer, heart disease, diabetes etc.
Most people are so scared of this stuff, they cannot bear to hear it mentioned. But treading in terrified silence around these illnesses will not make a single one go away.
On a personal note: I'm fairly sure I will get a stroke. Most of my family have managed to get one. It is in the genes. Does this inspire fear? A little. Am I going to pretend these things don't happen? Hardly.
Bottom line: you cannot let timid, unimaginative individuals police the world down to bland nothingness and leave only platitudes and euphemism.
Even more importantly, don't be suckered by control freaks into being a non-entity.
Well, I have been trying to keep an open mind about Bubblews but it is starting to get that ripoff smell to me.
I reached payout level two weeks ago and hit the "redeem" button. I chose the "send me a check" option (which may have been my first mistake).
The next day I got an e-mail from someone at the site asking if I was sure I wanted to be paid by check, and whether or not I had a PayPal account. I replied that I do not have a PayPal account. (Yeah, I know... I'm a dinosaur.)
They have maintained total radio silence since then. Not a peep. I sent another response to that e-mail yesterday asking (nicely) if there were any progress updates.
You have just been sent a payment by eCheck. You will receive the money in about 3-5 business days (estimated: 11/6/2013-11/8/2013). We recommend that you wait until the money arrives before shipping items. We'll email you when this eCheck payment has been deposited into your account.
Amount: $25.14 USD
Never had an issue with not receiving payments. This one is my 14th payment.
I have learned from others who have had payment delays:
If site is acting up, DO NOT put in for redemption that day.
Do not hoard money, in other words let money build up in account. Redeem at a bit over $25 just in case some of your likes may come from a member who loses account,etc. If any of these people have liked your posts, those likes etc will be deleted as well, putting you below $25.
Others have said that putting in for a redemption every day can create issues as well.
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