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Disappointed in Daily Two Cents/Writedge

  1. Carola Finch profile image96
    Carola Finchposted 19 months ago

    What is your experience with DTC - Writedge since the changes in October?  I have been with Daily Two Cents and Writedge since April, 2015.  In October, DTC-Writedge have changed to a strictly Adsense and affiliate link royalty model. People must have three months without violations and 50 articles posted to qualify.  I have not made a cent there, which is really disappointing.

    1. Will Apse profile image90
      Will Apseposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      That kind of penalty sounds as if they are determined to avoid paying under any circumstances. It is a reminder of what an essentially decent site HP is.

    2. Marisa Wright profile image94
      Marisa Wrightposted 19 months ago in reply to this

      Carola, you're now seeing the reality of what those sites are really earning.

      A few months after DailyTwoCents started, I stumbled across a post by the site's owner on a webmaster's forum.   He was expressing concern that he was running out of money, because he was paying writers out of his own pocket!

      He was making the same mistake as Bubblews - paying writers more than the site was earning to attract posts, in the hope that income would improve once the site was big enough.  It doesn't work, because all that does is give writers unrealistic expectations.  I knew writers would be in for a disappointment, when he ran out of seed money and had to start relying on Adsense.

      Which is what is now happening. He has spent a LOT of money paying writers and can't afford to pay any more, and he certainly can't afford to take ANY risks with his Adsense account because without it, he'll lose all hope of ever recouping his investment. So he has to be strict because Adsense violations by members could cause him to lose his account (that almost happened to the Wizzley owner).

      1. Carola Finch profile image96
        Carola Finchposted 19 months ago in reply to this

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        1. Carola Finch profile image96
          Carola Finchposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          Thanks for the info, everyone.  Hopefully, this new model will work better for me.

          1. Marisa Wright profile image94
            Marisa Wrightposted 19 months ago in reply to this

            I doubt it actually, since Adsense payments have dropped so much.   We are lucky on HP that HP has its own advertising program.

        2. UberGeekGirl profile image62
          UberGeekGirlposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          Neither my partner nor myself are "he" btw wink both being women and also writers. Also I'm not aware of any forum we've discussed our pay model other than our own. Just saying smile

          1. psycheskinner profile image82
            psycheskinnerposted 19 months ago in reply to this

            That statement was about the person who owns the entire site, rather than about you (unless you are in fact the owner and founder of DaillyTwoCents).

            1. UberGeekGirl profile image62
              UberGeekGirlposted 19 months ago in reply to this

              Yes, myself and Danielle are the owners and founders of both Writedge and Daily Two Cents smile

        3. UberGeekGirl profile image62
          UberGeekGirlposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          I think you're probably thinking of Post Any Article. We don't talk about our finances publicly on DTC, we're not males, and we were online for years before we were forced to change the pay model.

          1. Marisa Wright profile image94
            Marisa Wrightposted 19 months ago in reply to this

            I used the word "he" but I'm sure you're aware it's not possible to tell a person's sex on a forum unless their username gives a hint.  It was not on the DTC forums but on a private webmasters' forum, and it was a long time ago.

            1. NateB11 profile image93
              NateB11posted 19 months ago in reply to this

              I'm pretty sure it is Milk the Blog you are referring to. I had said on a forum thread that I started writing on that site and I think you posted a link to the forum thread where the owner said he didn't have money to pay users. I quit that site a long time ago, not even sure what's going on with it now.

            2. UberGeekGirl profile image62
              UberGeekGirlposted 19 months ago in reply to this

              Yeah definitely wasn't Danielle or myself (Michelle) smile

      2. NateB11 profile image93
        NateB11posted 19 months ago in reply to this

        Yeah, since the changes I've started deleting and moving my articles. There's no way to make any money there.

        1. UberGeekGirl profile image62
          UberGeekGirlposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          That really depends on what you write about. We've had a number of people make more with affiliate links and adsense already since adsense pays for all impressions, not just uniques. smile

    3. aingham86 profile image93
      aingham86posted 19 months ago

      Well that's a lie. There's no minimum number of posts required to put your adsense code in. Also, if you violate the rules, you're informed by the editors and encouraged to make changes. Adsense isn't removed. The only time it would be and your posts taken down is if you continually break rules and are removed from the site; just like any site has the right to do.

      Carola, I know you've fixed violations and taken on board tips that editors have given you. You'll still have your adsense code if you popped it in the advertising section on the site.

      As for the change, it happened because people were gaming the pay per view system. The site was breaking even and making money before that. By the way, the site owners are both female.

      Like any ad share site it takes time to start making money.  Adsense isn't an overnight success. Plenty of people on the site have given tips on how to make more money on the site through tags and good keyword choice and useage.

      I'd suggest getting the facts before writing something. If you are in doubt, you can always contact the site owners or stop by the Facebook support group where members who have been on the site since the beginning and make more than they do on HubPages (I'm one of them) will answer questions.

    4. Carola Finch profile image96
      Carola Finchposted 19 months ago

      I am talking about DTC and Writedge new policies, not Adsense itself.  Check out a the blogs called "New pay model starting" on these websites and reread my post to see what I am talking about.

      1. aingham86 profile image93
        aingham86posted 19 months ago in reply to this

        I'm assuming you're on about this post: http://writedge.com/blog/new-pay-model-starting/

        You've misunderstood it. The requirement of 50 posts and no violations in three months is for people who DON'T have AdSense and maybe can't get it. The site is willing to host a blog for  you, but you need to meet those requirements.

        If you want to put YOUR OWN AdSense code in to your current posts, go into the My Advertising section in the WP dashboard and you can do it. You don't need the 50 post minimum or any of the other stuff you mentioned.

        Like I said, if you needed anything clarified, emailing the owners or going to the FB group would have easily done that for you.

        1. Carola Finch profile image96
          Carola Finchposted 19 months ago in reply to this

          Thank you for clarifying.  The blog did not make it clear that it was talking about qualifying for a blog site and not as a general rule of thumb for all postings.

          1. aingham86 profile image93
            aingham86posted 19 months ago in reply to this

            There's a bolded and underlined section that says for those who don't already have AdSense. Maybe it was rushed reading? It is very clear what the requirements are for. The downside with reading online is that many tend to skim but when it doubt read through again slowly and ask questions to those who definitely have the answers.

            I've seen it a lot, and not just with writing sites, where people go into a forum with only part of the information or wrong information. They then scare so many others and start arguments/fights/debates. That doesn't mean raise issues when there definitely are some, but clarifying points with those who have the definite answers is always the best place to start. I'd really suggest joining the FB group because it is a good place to get answers to questions quickly. There's always someone to help. At least two of us have been on the HMM sites virtually since they opened.

            1. Carola Finch profile image96
              Carola Finchposted 19 months ago in reply to this

              OK.  Lets see what happens.

     
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