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Don't Push Me! (A Snake's Point Of View)

Updated on October 5, 2012
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Do You Fear Snakes?

How many times have people exaggerated tales about snakes? Snopes.com constantly displays how oversized snake pictures are faked by camera angles, and people being eaten by them are Photoshop jokes. Yet, because of the phobia, called Ophidiophobia, many people experience, in addition to religious opinions concerning apples and such, snakes are given a bad rap. What if a snake could tell his side of the story? What would the snake say……?

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Point / Counterpoint: A Snake's Viewpoint

Okay, let’s be blunt. It’s about time I had my say! I’m going to hiss real slow you can understand.

I don’t like you or any of your kind. And I know the feeling’s mutual. We both have phobia’s about each other. Big deal!

Not too long ago, my family had all this land to ourselves. We could roam where we wanted, hunt when we wanted and sleep when and where we wanted. During my early years, I had to watch out for birds, mostly hawks and owls, as they wanted to partake of my fat free body. (sing now, "I’m Too Sexy For My Skin, too sexy…", okay, enough!) Now, at over six feet, they know better than to mess with me. I just have to watch out for wild pigs and gators! Oh, and those damn things you call cars!

The gopher tortoise will tell you that I‘m not hard to get along with. We even share dens at times. He stays on his side and I on mine. He’s a pain to eat (broke a fang on a shell once, but, like always, it grew back) and I’m too dangerous for him to mess with. So, there’s really no need to step on each other’s toes (if I had any, that is).

Years ago, a couple of you humans came into my neck of the woods with your hooked sticks and fabric bags. I watched as you picked up one of my brothers, flipped him in the bag, and tied up the opening. Then, you stuck him in a bucket with strange markings on it that looked like this:

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That was the last time I saw him. I was hiding in the dried leaves under a bush, my beautiful body camouflage blending in perfectly with my surroundings, while I cooled myself from the afternoon sun. (Didn't see me, did ya?) My brother had been asleep sunning himself on a rock when you found him. He’d been out late the night before (chasing rodents with the Copperhead down the way) and was really tired. I felt the vibrations of your steps as you neared, but the breeze was blowing the wrong direction and my tongue failed to catch your scent. My eyes aren’t that good, but my Loreal pit receptors picked up your body heat when you finally came into view.

Oh, well, we really weren’t that close. Fool should’ve know better than to party with a copper!

Not only am I big, but my bite packs quite a punch. Last night, a wood rat smarted off and quickly felt my fangs. Sucker fell dead within seconds. (I'm like your Jimmy Cagney, no more dirty rat.) And, don’t think your size will make you immune. One or two bites from me and you’ll be down, maybe forever!

My venom is primarily what you call hemotoxic, meaning it’s going to mess with your blood system by keeping it from clotting, as well as, break down tissue and such. And, I’ve got a lot of it being my size and all. There’s a little guy around here you call the Coral Snake. His venom’s neurotoxic. It will stop the synapses in your brain and shut down your nervous system. It might be a good idea to leave both of us alone.

But look, I really don’t want to bite you. My whole plan is to save my venom to kill my food. See, I quickly strike my prey and recoil because I could suffer bites and scratches that could become infected. Since I have no white corpuscles to fight infection, a scratch or bite can be my death penalty. So, I strike quickly and let the venom neutralize my prey’s defenses. Nice thing is the venom also starts breaking down tissue and such. You might say it’s kind of a meat tenderizer! I swallow my food whole and any help I can get stops indigestion. There's not many places in the woods to pick up a bromo fizzie!

I like the woods as they provide multiple escape options if I need them. But, when bad weather arrives, I’m going to hunt for someplace to keep dry. If it’s a burrow, great! If it’s a barn or under your house or car, I really don’t care. I just want to stay dry. And, remember, my kind were living here long before your kind came around, so don’t push the issue! Your land is my land!

In fact, you may be surprised where you can find me. I've huddled atop your vehicle’s motor to get warm on chilly nights, under your porch to keep cool in the summer, and even behind the freezer in your garage just because I could. (With all the mice you have there you should advertise it as an all-you-can-eat rodent buffet.) Also, I like warm concrete at dusk. So, if you decide to walk down the street or sidewalk, you might want to keep your eyes open.

Like you, I (literally) refuse to be walked on! Look at it this way, would you let King Kong step on you? Of course not! Well, to me, you’re as big (and stupid) as King Kong! Believe me, I will not allow you to step on me, no more than you’d let me crawl on you. (I shudder at the thought.. slimy humans!)

In fact, even though I have a rattle, I may not use it. I know as soon as I start shaking my tail, you’re gonna go and get a stick or something and try to kill me. Wake up the whole neighborhood, you will! So, why should I alert you? Let's just say, "I'll think about it." However, if I’m feeling particularly neighborly one day, I may rattle before your kids get too close. But, do warn them, I like a lot of space.

That doesn’t just come from me. It comes from all my relatives… rattlers, copperheads, cottonmouths, and even that squirt the Coral Snake! I’m being serious when I say you’d better stay away! I promise we won’t chase you! Just back up slowly and walk away!

By the way, watch out for my kids, too. I had twelve of the little snappers the other day and I swear, when they coil up, they each look like a pile of dog poo. I don’t know where they’re at. They couldn’t wait to get away from me. (They’ll never know a mother’s love.) They have little buttons for rattles that you can’t hear yet, but, like me, if they bite you‘re going down. They make a mother so proud!

If I had anything to add to what’s already been said, it would simply be,

“Leave Me Alone. Your kind and mine don’t like each other so let’s not push it. We’ll never be friends, I will never be your warm and fuzzy pet, and I’ll kill you if you push me, just like I know you will me. Just let me be!”

“By the way, my stomach’s growling. Is the buffet open?”

All Joking Aside

As some urban areas are finding, without natural habitat, the natural enemies of rodents are becoming scarce. (The Eastern Diamondback is very close to being included on the endangered list.) Rats and mice are taking over, and with them, the threat of diseases spreading grows greater.

Snakes are creatures of habit and instinct. Most will never travel more than three miles from where they are born. If that land becomes an apartment complex or industrial setting, these creatures have nowhere to go.

Seldom, if ever, do snakes chase people. This is what generally occurs:

"You see one coming and your phobia rushes over you. You turn and run. Out of breath, you stop and turn around. You see the snake still coming and think it’s chasing you! The snake’s just going the same direction it was when you first saw it! If you turn right or left, you’ll find the snake has gone on its way. "

Again, snakes are instinctive, not vindictive. It’s against all instinct to chase something bigger than themselves.

People generally get bit when doing stupid things, like trying to capture, hold, or kill a snake. Any experienced herp owner will tell you, “it’s not if you get bit, it’s when you get bit” when you deal with a venomous reptile. Don’t be stupid! Leave them alone and call the local authorities. They generally have a list of experienced individuals that will relocate them at little or no charge.

Don’t be selfish! The world is big enough for all species to thrive! Living with nature means a future still exists!

Remember, there’s two sides to every story!



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      brittvan22 4 years ago from Atlanta, Georgia

      Get hub, voting up! Thanks for his perspective, you know I have no problems staying on my side of the street, car, barn, planet, etc. Really good read!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Thanks for your comments.

      If the saying, "With knowledge comes understanding" is true, hopefully, you can relax a little now.

      Appreciate the comments and votes! Many thanks!

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      Marcus J. Guidry 4 years ago from Bayou Country, Louisiana

      I really enjoyed your hub. I am an animal lover and I do mean ALL animals. I couldn't take part in the poll because I'm not at all afraid of snakes. I wish more people felt as you do.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Thanks for your comments!

      God put everything on this earth for a purpose. It seems strange that man feels superior and tries to eliminate what he doesn't like. I used to live in Baton Rouge in the 80's (Tiger Town). You've got a tremendous selection of wildlife around that area to appreciate!

      Again, appreciate the comments and the compliment!

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      Patty Kenyon 4 years ago from Ledyard, Connecticut

      Awesome and Interesting!!! I have never been afraid of snakes and when I was younger my sisters and I had some as pets. Great Job with Awesome Pictures!!!

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      Rosyel Sawali 4 years ago from Manila, Philippines

      I couldn't wait to read it, esp. when I saw you wrote it! Well, snakes aren't my fave reptiles but I can't say I'm afraid of them either. They're quite fascinating and I like looking at them.. at the zoo. Thanks for sharing another good read! ^_^

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Patty

      Good to see you again! That's fantastic that you haven't had to deal with the fear! Many have, including my father who still won't visit me since I have one in the house!

      Thanks loads for your compliments and comments!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Rosyel

      Your words are too kind, I'm humbled!

      I used to volunteer at a reptile zoo on weekends. It was easy to see who was interested and who really were there only because of the spouse or kids! They had a habit of tugging and trying to hurry out of there!

      I do appreciate your comments!

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      iamaudraleigh 4 years ago

      Dear friend, you are a fabulous writer! I am not just saying that either. You have a way with words! Brilliance here!

      I like how you told the story through the voice of the snake and was able to describe what they are all about in that way!

      Fantastic hub!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Audra -

      I am completely humbled by your comments. "Aw shucks, lady, thanks!"

      Seriously, you were the second person to ever welcome and follow me on Hubpages. You have provided a wonderful example (and a tough bar to reach for) in your hub offerings. I appreciate your loyalty and comments!

      I enjoy taking on a character and playing the role as I hope they see it. I don't do it that often for fear of duplication boredom for the reader.

      Again, your compliments and comments mean a lot. Many Thanks!

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      Brett Caulton 4 years ago from Thailand

      I love the way that you put this together, up, funny and awesome! You make some good points about snakes. From my experience, if you see one, just standing still and letting it pass works pretty well. However, the ones curled on the road at dusk, enjoying the warm tarmac, are tricky when you are on a bike/motorbike ... as small ones really do look like a dog had passed by lol.

      Sharing this for others to enjoy.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Brett -

      Thanks for your compliments! In Asia, you've got some tough ones to deal with. I've had some experiences with cobras and kraits that had me sweating and changing pants at end. Russell's vipers are nasty, also! Hold your legs up high as you drive by!

      I do appreciate the comments and votes. Many Thanks!

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      Victoria Lynn 4 years ago from Arkansas, USA

      You are amazing writer if you can write a story from a snake's point of view and make me ALMOST feel sorry for it. Amazing work. I get the heebie geebies at the mere sight of a snake and will be checking my computer for sure. I wouldn't try to kill a snake. I'm too scared to get that close. UGH. Be impressed that I even got past the photo to read your hub. I'm glad I did. It was some amazing writing.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Victoria -

      Thank you for being brave! You're a trooper for sure!

      I'm flattered at your compliments, yet, disappointed. "ALMOST?" Ah, I failed! Still, I'm glad you enjoyed the story!

      I thank you so much for stopping by! Oh, what's that by your CPU?

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      Ireno Alcala 4 years ago from Bicol, Philippines

      Such a brave stand in favor of snakes. I don't fear snakes, my mother does. So, whenever some Philippine python hatched eggs at the backyard, she will immediately call the local snake charmer and command him to get rid of the mother snake and her offspring.

      If not provoked, snakes can live harmoniously with people.

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      snigdha.s 4 years ago from India,mumbai

      I used to fear snakes as a kid but not anymore although I still maintain a distance from them but love watching them. Just two weeks back we found a baby cobra in our society. This is a holy month of shravan where sighting of snakes is considered holy so people do not kill them fortunately. I kept screaming from my window warning the boys not to kill it. It was so cute huddled in a corner. They actually don't hurt you unless they are attacked. Brilliant hub. Loved your i.e the snakes viewpoint. Voted up.

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      Nicole Canfield 4 years ago from the Ether

      Very cleverly written! Loved it from the snake's point of view, but guess what? I don't mind snakes...I don't want to live with them but if I see one in nature I am usually fascinated, from a distance! LOL. Voted up and awesome.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      travel_man1971 -

      Thank you for commenting.

      I completely agree with you. We just have to understand that the Earth was meant to share, not monopolize!

      Thank you for your compliments and comments!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      snigdha.s -

      Thank you for your heartfelt comments!

      I was unaware that shravan was this month. It is a festival I would love to attend. I couldn't agree more about appreciating their value. Their place in nature's overall plan is a very important one!

      I certainly appreciate you dropping in! Many Thanks!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Kitty -

      So good to have you stop by! I'm honored!

      Somehow, I had a feeling you would not fear them. One so attached to nature as you would appreciate all of nature's offerings. I'm sure there are those that protect you there, also!

      Thank you so much for stopping in and commenting! It is greatly appreciated!

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      Becky Bruce 4 years ago from San Diego, CA

      You write so well rcrumple!!! And what an interesting way to share facts about snakes- they will defiantly stick in my mind better now having been presented like this. Yet still I am terrified of snakes!!! My parents live on the tip-top of a hill with all sorts of creatures but the snake is the one I fear running into the most!!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Becky -

      Thanks so much for stopping in!

      If your parents live in the same area as you, the Pacific Rattlesnake is sincerely a major concern. Its venom is among the most toxic in the states and can cause major problems, for sure. However, if you watch where you walk, as well as, watch where you put your hands if working around bushes in the yard, you shouldn't have a problem. California has a lot of volunteers that will relocate any found. A simple call to the authorities will eliminate that snake from your property forever.

      Again, thank you for your gracious compliments and interesting comments. Much appreciated!

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      Mary Hyatt 4 years ago from Florida

      You were good enough to read and comment on my Hub about venomous snakes in S. Fl. I learned a lot from your comment and from this Hub. You did a great job of telling the story from the snake's point of view.

      May I link this Hub into mine?

      Thanks in advance. I voted this Hub UP, etc.etc.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Mary615 -

      I really appreciate you stopping by here! And, I'm very sincere when I say that!

      My father, to this day, will not tolerate a snake. His idea is the same as 99% of the people in the United States..."kill 'em all."

      He had instilled that same fear on me. Yet, after having a copperhead find the back of my leg one day, I had to change. People told me I'd never go back into the woods for fear of getting bit again, once I left the hospital. Instead, I decided to learn all I could about them to overcome that fear. That study carried me into much understanding.

      Although I've had them in my life, I don't "love" them. I'm mesmerized by some of the patterns they exhibit, and amazed at how they can instill fear in men as they do, but I've always had a healthy respect for their existence. They serve a purpose for sure.

      Yes, you're welcome to link this page to yours. I'm honored that you wish to do so!

      I thank you for your comments and for having an exceptionally open mind. Many Thanks!

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      Mary Hyatt 4 years ago from Florida

      Oh, my you were bitten by a Copperhead??? My four children grew up in S. Fl. and we do have Diamondbacks. Their Dad always told them that when they walked in the woods or in area that were overgrown in weeds, to make a lot of noise! We always insisted they wear their cowboy boots when they went out to play or to ride their horses. A horse will just freeze if he sees a snake! Bye for now, Mary

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      Annie Fenn 4 years ago from Australia

      This is an excellent hub from all angles, you are a champion for snakes and your message should be read by all who come into contact with them. We have several deadly species here in Australia. I have seen snakes from time to time in the bush, and though I am scared of them, I also respect them and their place in on this earth. Thank you for your very important messages about snakes. A very well written 'Snakes point of view', my votes and best wishes to you rcrumple, and sharing!!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Mary615 -

      When I was a youngster, a friend and I were in the woods playing army with BB guns (no, we weren't very smart). I jumped over a log and felt something hit the back of my leg. Thinking it was a briar, I kept running and felt something flop against my leg. I stopped and looked down to see a copperhead strike me a third time. Obviously, I must have stepped on it and as it struck me the first time, I was lifting my leg up. It must not have had time to recoil as my motion carried it with me. That was a night in the hospital, as I was only 12 or 13 when it happened.

      Making noise is the best defense. When snakes feel your vibrations, many will flee to avoid contact. It really depends on their mood at the time! I was once hunting cottonmouths in southern Florida. I could smell the musk, but in the reeds couldn't locate it. When I got back to the boat, I put my legs up to relax and found a fang hanging in off the boot where it had found me. Leather boots are definitely an asset!

      Thanks for commenting!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Fennelseed -

      Thank you so very much for visiting!

      The fear of snakes is a dreadful one, and I have much empathy for those who suffer from it. Hopefully, with understanding, a little less fear may keep some of our eco system intact!

      Again, thank you for your comments and compliments. They are greatly appreciated!

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      Wayne Brown 4 years ago from Texas

      A humorous yet still educational way to get to know your buddy, the Eastern Diamondback. I have one philosophy when it comes to snakes....get as much ground between me and him as possible as quickly as possible! I did write a true life humorous piece in this same vein called "Firepower"....it gets its humor off of my phobia of snakes. Thanks for sharing...good write! WB

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Wayne -

      Thanks for stopping by! So good to see you here!

      I can understand your philosophy, and definitely respect it. It is one I recommend for everyone. Curiosity will get you bitten. So will trying to kill them at times.

      I look forward to reading your piece. I know I won't be disappointed!

      Thanks again for stopping by and for your kind compliments! They're much appreciated!

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      hecate-horus 4 years ago from Rowland Woods

      Being a HUGE snake lover myself, this hub squeezed me and didn't let go! I never understood the snake phobia. To me, they are one of the most fasinating creatures around. This hub was absolutely awesome! I love the snake's point of view, and I think you captured it beautifully! Thanks for being a great advocate for snakes! Voted up, AWESOME, and shared!

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      ignugent17 4 years ago

      That is very scary snake. I liked the way you presented the talking snake. It is cute but still I am scared of them. Very interesting hub!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      hecate-horus -

      I'm glad to meet you!

      Your comments and compliments are greatly appreciated. The fear of snakes is generally created by environmental conditioning. The parents exhibit the fear, so the children pick it up. Only with understanding and knowledge can these attitudes be changed, if at all.

      Snakes get a bum rap at times. Just doing my part to keep it a little more even. Many Thanks!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      ignugent17 -

      Thank you so much for stopping by. If you're that afraid of them, I know it took a lot of courage to be open minded enough to read this hub! I commend you!

      I appreciate your comments and courage! Btw, when was the last time you checked your computer?

      Many Thanks!

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      Linda Bilyeu 4 years ago from Orlando, FL

      As you well know Rich I've seen my share of snakes in Orlando. Luckily they are mostly garden snakes. Regardless Im still not a fan. I think the coolest thing about having snakes slithering in and about my neighborhood is finding their shedded skin. That's a cool process! I appreciate your information, yet I think I'll pass on having a snake as a pet. Awesome hub filled with ssssssssensational facts! :)

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Linda -

      Thanks for stopping by!

      From Ocala National Forest down is filled with them. Just always look at the pattern on the shed. You can tell what kind of snake it was, generally, by that. It doesn't give you a true idea of the size though, as the shed stretches as it pulls off. Love your last comment!

      Thanks loads for commenting! Much appreciated!

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      Bill Holland 4 years ago from Olympia, WA

      You are one funny man! My son and I had a python for a pet once....they aren't that bad....but I have never been in the vicinity of a rattler and that would change my perspective very quickly.

      Great job my friend; have a wonderful weekend!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Bill -

      Thanks for visiting!

      I think I saw your python in the Florida Everglades. It kept saying, "We're just going on vacation for a little while! We'll be back in Olympia before you can digest a rabbit! Yeah, right, where are you, Bill? Left me here didn't ya?"

      Again, thanks for coming by and leaving your comments. Very much appreciated, my friend!

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      Sherri 4 years ago from Southeastern Pennsylvania

      Fabulous hub...so you are a snake whisperer? All joking aside, we don't put ourselves in animals' shoes often enough. I loved the snake's perspective of us.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Sally -

      So good to see you here!

      Actually I learned the language from Lord....shh... can't say his name! No, I just worked with venomous as a hobby for many, many years. I have no love for them, but I find them utterly fascinating.

      Thank you so much for commenting here! Much appreciated!

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      ThoughtSandwiches 4 years ago from Reno, Nevada

      Richard,

      I appear to have slithered into this party a bit late but I'm certainly glad I made it! I was utterly unaware that snakes had a story to tell and you did it very eloquently!

      Being a city-boy, I give a wide birth to the creepy crawlies although I have never actually seen a snake. From what you tell me here...they have probably seen me, huh? That's fine, I will give them as wide a berth as they give me and I thank them in advance for eating mice/rats (which I also don't like). In an added bonus, unlike my roommates cats, these guys seem unlikely to leave a decapitated mouse sitting on the kitchen floor. Massive kudos to them for that and for you for getting their story out!

      Thanks,

      Thomas

      PS...up and sharing!

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      Kelly Umphenour 4 years ago from St. Louis, MO

      Living in the Midwest - I've encountered a snake or two up too close for comfort:). One was a copper head - the other a giant black colored snake near the river last year. He was all coiled up too!

      I love your hub - everything about it. The explanation and photos too but I hope I never run into a snake again!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Thomas -

      Deja Vu. It's good to see you sampling my material.

      Most people that have ever walked on a nature trail would be surprised what lingers closely. If snakes were aggressive in nature, very few of us would have much of a chance. Unfortunately, in 30 years of either working with them in hobby or volunteer efforts at a reptile zoo, I was tagged a couple of times. The worst of the two was a Cape Cobra (naja nivea) in South Africa. I awoke from that episode three days later on life support.

      Again, thanks for coming by. Much appreciated!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Kelly -

      Thank you so much for stopping in!

      Copperheads are generally not as bad as they're made out to be. Most bites contain very little venom unless you're needlessly messing with them and getting them riled up. Still, it's best to stay away. The black snake sounds more like a rat snake or a black racer. Non venomous, and probably sunning himself after just having enjoyed eating a rodent of sorts. Still, my advice to all is to leave them alone and be safe.

      Thanks so much for coming by and visiting! Much appreciated!

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      Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia

      Enjoyed the read, rcrumple. Glad you are educating folks about these fascinating creatures. One thing though, the baby rattlers are often more dangerous than the adults because they cannot control how much venom they release during a strike like an adult can. The babies may inject all of their venom at one time causing a very dangerous bite.

      Rated up!

      SSSSS

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Randy -

      Good to meet you!

      Babies can be know to inject quite a bit of venom, but a full grown EDB can generally inject a much greater amount with a standard bite. A couple of venom lab owners (Jim Harrison & George Van Horn) I'm well acquainted have both ended up on life support with bites from various adult cobras, and I the same by a neonate that held on during a feeding response. It's a point as much debated as if the toxicity is greater because of the smaller size of the young. Some say it is and can prove it, others say it's not and can prove it. In 30 years of either working with or simply owning as a hobby, it seems like everything in the reptile world is debated, from the LD50 test results to the most deadly snake in the world... which, of course, is the one a person just got bit by. The important thing is to seek immediate treatment regardless of the size. There's a lot of information available on these topics. I was a member of the SHHS for a long time and the venomousreptiles.org website can supply a goldmine of topics to research. I appreciate your comments. You sound like a person I'd love to go herping with one day! Many Thanks!

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      Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia

      Good to meet you too, RC! I agree about the much debated "knowledge" among so many reptile aficionados and am sure you know much more than I do about these creatures. I just wanted folks to realize a "baby" or "infant" rattler is very dangerous also. As a child (too long ago to remember) I recall some adults remarking about infant rattlers not being able to injure you much. More "old wive's tales". LOL!

      I need to check out more of your hubs too!

      SSSSS

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Randy -

      I totally understand and am with you 100%! I hope I didn't come on like a know-it-all, for I'm far from that. There are so many of the old wives tales one wonder how there ever were any old wives! lol I don't often write about my reptile past as many are "put off" by it. Mostly, comedy, some poems, and a little back to basics thought patterns. You, too, are one I want to catch up on. I used to have a friend that lived in, I believe, Eatonville or Eatonton, that I visited a couple of times. We found numerous copperheads and a beautiful canebrake road cruising. There's a lot of good people in that area.

      Take care, my friend! I'm sure we'll be seeing each other in the future! Many Thanks!

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      Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia

      No problem, RC. Always glad to find someone who cares about wild creatures and respect them for their place in our world. Another "old wives tale" which I found funny was that a cottonmouth moccasin couldn't bite you in the water. Whenever someone told me this I would ask "so how do they catch their prey in the water?" LOL!

      And sure, we'll be seeing each other around! :)

      SSSSS

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      Michelle Liew 4 years ago from Singapore

      Richard, no, I don't fear snakes, and this snake narrator here seems like a nice guy who just wants to keep to himself. Found one under my BBQ as a kid and my dog informed me about it. It seemed unconcerned though, so dad just put him in a bush far away somewhere. It was just happy to go away! A cute take on snakes!! Socially shared.

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      Mark G Weller 4 years ago from Lake Charles, LA.

      I lived in Diablo Grande for a couple years. This is a valley at 2000 ft in the mountains west of the Central Valley in California. There are Western Diamondback rattlers every-ware you look up there and we had to teach the kids how to avoid them.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Michelle -

      Thanks for stopping in!

      Most snakes really just want to be left alone. Unfortunately, man has taken away so much of their natural habitat, they've got no place else to go.

      Thanks so much for commenting! Much appreciated!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Mark -

      So good to see you!

      I truly understand what you're saying. We lived right next to Lake Eufaula in Alabama, and the Cottonmouths were everywhere. Raising two girls there probably wasn't as bad as if they were boys, but still, they always had to be aware!

      I really appreciate your comments! Many Thanks!

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      whonunuwho 4 years ago from United States

      Snakes are a vital part of nature and the food chain. I don't like poisous varieties and try to keep my distance. When ouit hunting and fishing or doing yard work, is when I have encountered many and some were deadly. I suppose that if we live and let live, in most cases, it is the right thing to do, however when family and your safety are on the line, it is best to dispatch the animal, whether by calling for help to have it removed or taking matters in your own hands. Snakes are a part of nature. Nice hub.

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      whonunuwho -

      Good to see you again!

      I'm all for taking control of an unavoidable situation. My family will come first against man or animal. Yet, if possible, a relocation group is a preferable solution if available. Many law enforcement agencies have been provided with contacts to do just that, usually at minimal, if any, cost. Plus, it eliminates accidental bites for those unfamiliar with strike ranges and such!

      Thanks so much for you insightful comments! Greatly appreciated!

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      50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

      With all due respect I voted this up as it held much truth about the snake and the human reaction. I live in an area that is quite well stocked with a variety of snakes and when I trek it is with my "moses" pole. A side winder, little venom and small I just flip them out of my way and they move on, My interest is a 5 ft Diamond Back, that is well fed, I noose them and sack them and put them in my freezer and after they thaw out the head hide and rattle goes to the tourist trade at a good dollar. I eat the prime meat, I leave the scrawny to grow up, sorta a snake farmer. I would toss in that many think a pit viper cannot bite you on the flat of the back, bad belief, they unhinge their jaw and can bite the flat of a horse flank, or a persons back there is a host of knowledge to be learned about snakes and breeds but I think you nailed the first and most important, "respect" some are dangerous and will end your life faster than you can get to where you need to be and then there is no guarantee they will have anti-venom for your particular problem as snakes begin to interbreed I've been learning on the Mohave Green that is springing up in the lower southeast corner of this state, and in good numbers,

      with Tucson the closest place to get the medical help one will need for a neurotoxic bite, and it is well past the 30 minute mark to get to before you become a member of the 6ft club.

      I am Planning a trip to sack a few up for the freezer so I can take them apart to settle my curiosity on the internal make up, and find out about raising and milking for anti-venom mfg. so it is spread to a wider refrigerater stock across this state.

      Thank you for a great story, I enjoyed it as well as Randy I'm sure, Mr.SSSSSS has provided a few god conversations on this,

      Peace and Blessings,

      50/dust

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      Richie Mogwai 4 years ago from Vancouver

      What an excellent article, and your title is perfect. Congratulations!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      50 Caliber -

      Good to meet you.

      As you've probably gathered, I'm not a fan of killing reptiles. However, I can't and won't condemn you for what you do. My only wish would be that all that did would treat them as a game animal and use all of them for good, instead of tossing them in the street or garbage. With some experience in venom labs, I will tell you that you're in for a tough lifestyle. Finding buyers for the venom is one thing (many are overseas) , but the venom has to be collected under sterile conditions and freeze dried for sale. This, in itself, can be an expensive purchase. Since anti serum production has changed over the last ten years, the market is a tight one. And, with experimentation dropping in the area of neurotoxins, even the Green Mohave venom isn't bringing what it use to. A person has to have multiple specimens for every other week extractions just to afford the upkeep. I wish you the best of luck with it. I actually visited the Sierra Vista area about ten years ago collecting the greens, and picked up the limit on Westerns also. It's a beautiful area, if you can keep from getting stopped all the time at the Border Patrol stations. lol

      Thanks for commenting! Much Appreciated!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Richie -

      Nice to meet you!

      I appreciate your kind words. Glad you enjoyed the article!

      Thanks for the comments! Much appreciated!

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      50 Caliber 4 years ago from Arizona

      Rich, I'm not a fan of killing any thing that doesn't go toward a use. You just gave me enough information I don't need to go to Cochise and collect. We have a fellow hubber "Ghost32" who lives there and when it comes to the Green he's all about kill it with fire! and I don't blame him, seems he's building on a Green highway and I may be able to get him to save me a couple for my curiosities sake, he does provide food for the buzzards and coyotes, it doesn't sound like he's going to slow the species down any.

      I have to add in my previous comment about Mr.SSSSSS I meant "good comments" not what is there, I'm aware of the reason he might think I was jabbing at him and I wasn't to be sure, just not my style.

      Peace,

      dust

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Dusty,

      Good to see you again!

      There were plenty of them when I was there. Fact, the Border Patrol told me not to worry about limits and take all I could. Figuring a State Police officer may not feel the same way, I stuck to the legal limits, which then, were four of each species. I don't think anyone took offense of your comments. I didn't and no one else. Good luck, but be careful!

      Thanks for stopping in! Greatly appreciated!

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      Abby Attwood 4 years ago from Olathe, KS

      I loved the way you used humor to teach us about snakes and how they can be easily misunderstood. Well done!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Abby -

      Good Morning!

      This was actually one of my earlier hubs when I was trying to decide which "niche" I best fit on hubpages. I always look at things from a perspective different than most, I guess because of my past stand-up comedy career. When I went into a training manager position, I found humor definitely assists the leaning, if nothing more than keeping the class (or audience) awake! Glad you enjoyed this!

      Thanks for the comments! Much Appreciated!

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      Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia

      Just read our friend Dusty's comments on this hub as I've been trying to go back and find his latest words since he is now deceased. Just to show what kind of guy he was, notice how he worried I might be insulted when he used "god" for "good" in his comment. Even though we had different beliefs we found common ground on many other facets of life and subsequently great conversations.

      Snakes were often discussed in our emails and on other hubs and he will be sorely missed by myself and others. Sorry to ramble a bit RC, but I found his comments here and couldn't resist acknowledging them.

      SSSSS

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Randy,

      Not knowing Dusty, his first comment was almost confusing to me. I wasn't sure if he was pulling my leg, trying to rile me up, or just telling it like it was for him. He was definitely a character that I wish I'd have known much better. I've found myself visiting his hubs and wishing he was here to discuss them. Gonna miss him, as I know you do.

      Many Thanks!

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      Randy Godwin 4 years ago from Southern Georgia

      I know what you mean, RC. Dusty seemed to type faster than his mind could work sometimes when he was interested in a subject. Yes, I wish I had met him earlier too. Thanks again!

      SSSSS

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      Melanie Chisnall 4 years ago from Cape Town, South Africa

      Richard, I know about your experience with snakes some years ago, so it was good to read about them here, and learn something new. There are two sides to every story - you're right - especially when it comes to animals. It's usually humans that antagonize or threaten snakes, or other types of animals, and that's where the problems come in. Great article, thanks for sharing!

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      Rich 4 years ago from Kentucky

      Melanie -

      Really good to see you here! (Btw, love your new pic!)

      Snakes are really misunderstood. There are so many myths told about them it's no wonder people are scared. Yet, they really just want to be left alone. You have some very dangerous specimens in your area of the world, so be careful on your "nature" hikes and such. : )

      Thanks for commenting! Much Appreciated!

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      Linda Bilyeu 12 months ago from Orlando, FL

      This article is just as informative and entertaining today as it was 3 years ago! :)

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