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Is Rob Benwell's products part of a scam? Or Entrepreneur?
Entrepreneur or Scam
Rob Benwell himself is an Internet millionaire, he leads you to believe this resulted from Blogging. In part this is only a portion of his income. It's more in likely his major income is from selling his products. Because this review is mostly a neutral to critical of various products of Rob, there have been several reports against this hub. So for those agents, we have deleted or modified any quotes from his stuff. It should be duly noted that I have not purchased his products, nor use them. What I have posted is commonly available information, on various websites, especially those reporting scams and forums.
It's like the successful investor, commodity trader setting up courses to teach you how to invest your money. He's making far safer money from the course then his investments. Now some people really do desire to teach others how to be successful, but they are few.
Before we go on let's define Scammer and Entrepreneur.
- someone who organizes a business venture and assumes the risk for it
- Individual who starts a new business. Venture capital is often used to finance the startup costs in return for an equity share. Once the business is established, an entrepreneur may choose to raise additional capital by selling equity shares to the public through an initial public offering.
- Swindle: to obtain money or property by fraud or deception .
- Con: to swindle someone by gaining the person's confidence
- Con: to trick or fool, esp. by glib persuasion
An Entrepreneur may see a business advantage or opportunity. It could even be something that is free, or readily available. But by providing guides, books, or means of pointing to these free sources he provides a service (like tour guides). He can provide a product, or business connection.
The scammer is interested in making a fast buck, and usually not for the long term. Though a current modern day scammer is the Ponzi scheme of Madoff's. Signs of a scammer are poor customer relations, poor service, poor quality products, a lot of hype, glossy presentations, promotions of "results are fast", get rich now, miracle cures, so on. They tend to the oversell what the product can do, don't disclose all the pertinent facts, cover up.
It should be noted, that a lot of business do a scam like presentation or there sales force do. Also you the reader what do you do? At one time or another we all may be guilty of these offenses. So it's not so much the presentation but the overall attitude and conduct of either the business or individual. Do they stand behind there products or not?
Well let's investigate this campaign on Google Annihilation, then you the read judge.
The Google Annihilation Campaign
First when I usually want to check on something being suspicious, it's pull up a search engine - type in '<business, product, name> scam'. Then read a few articles. If it is a legit business, you won't find much. Yes there will be results, and most companies will have problems. Well the results where dismal for "Google Annihilation".
Why? The affiliates and associates with "Google Annihilation" are coy. They had sites, and blogs out their titled "Google Annihilation Scam". Which were just reviews, and promos, and rehash of promotional literature. Some would proclaim "Google Annihilation Reviewed" - these were shameless promotions, NOT REVIEWS. Both of these were designed to mislead the consumer. One site was setup like this "Ripoff Report: Google Annihilation" - again another promo site, designed to keep traffic away from the real "Ripoff Report Site" ( www.ripoffreport.com a good site for check companies).
OK maybe just overzealous affiliate promotions. Possible, but doubt it. These speak of cover ups, and only brought more suspicion.
Next in the video,there is a claim that in one year Rob Benwell's site generated over 2 million visitors, in a year. According to the video, you are kind of lead to believe this site was about a year old. Well question why does Rob have the site blurred out if it so successful? Out front after the test period it wouldn't matter. Sorry careful examination of the site he refers to points it to nothing but bloggingtothebank.com and according to the Way Back Machine he had this site up since 2006.(according to Alexa it was up Jan 24/2006 and has 129 sites linked to it) With all his associates and avid affiliates it no wonder he has over 2 million hits.
He than claims another site setup generated over 38,000 visitors per month. The question is how? He states by his tool Google Annihilation. Well how much where his affiliates involved? The same for his click-bank earnings, - how much is generated by his affiliates through clickbank or by his own independent site. Sorry without an independent (reputable) auditor to verify these statements, and considering the coverup for the first video, these are also statement without all the truth up front. He doesn't disclose what site it is that generates the 38,000 visitors, nor clearly shows this on his click-bank statement.
Why hide your successful site? Because it will expose the real strategy, ploy, or con. It will open it up, for a thorough examination and expose it to some thorough cross examination. Of which it would probably fail or could pass.
A man with "The man that's got good gold don't mind going to the testing stone".
Further problems with Benwell's information.
The following pictures show also information taken from his sites of quit-smoking-expert.com and nicheannihilationmethod.com. Again, these are sites with a heavy base of affiliates, not just a new site erected with new products or services. He is making money by two ways the sales of his methods and books plus those sales done by his affiliates through click-bank. He may have a had small start, and in examining his first blogingtothebank site from the Wayback Machine. But what he has done is built on promoting his products, repeatedly in his blooggingtothebank site.
It's the sales of those products that are generating his income not blogging about things of substance, or products, or services.
A common trademark of scammers is the often used word "honest", or true. As put before if you have real gold you aren't afraid of the tests. Your products and services will speak for themselves.
What is being said about Rob Benwell's products.
Let's see how some of his customers and those who supposed really looked at his products.
- First Google Annihilation:Costs 37.00 per month for up to 30 websites being allowed into network.
- Uses NO relevant website matching methods, only manual categories at present.
- ONLY 3 anchor keywords allowed per site.
- NO article marketing built in.
- NO social bookmarking built in.
- NO user options for selecting relevance of your anchor text links.
- NO ability to reject any inbound or outbound links.
- NO tutorials or instructions at present.
- NO forum.
Competing sites have forums (great places to get help and advice), For every NO above the competition has a YES, they can cost $27 -47 per month. But a word of caution with Link farms, they could get you delisted on search engines (there has been reports in forums)1
From a commenter at a review site
- "You are absolutely correct. This product does not work. No support. No answering emails. etc. etc. etc. I wish I had found this review before I was suckered into the hype"1
- Just a note..seems like there is quite a few people in the same boat.. The refund rate is close to 40%!2
Also can you control the links you get and are linked to. Some of us do like to maintain professional and ethical looking sites and content. From a Ripoff Report.3 : it's been reported the links are pornographic sites, and again a complainant about support.
So what about his other products:
Niche Annihilation Method
- No Step-by-step tutorial in this e-book.
- It is assumed that you have certain level of knowledge and experience online. (which in one Ripoff Report this is tossed out in response to one email) So for the uninitiated out there you will be left floundering. Without a software program or some sort of setup how would you manage your email list, and contacts you are allowed to mass mail. There are companies out there that help you with those things, and your domain provider might have the tools for you. But do you know how to use these tools and their power in the market place.
- He promotes advertising your product on an online magazine and then claim “as featured on…” (not very ethical in any ways)
- poorly written and full of spelling mistakes (sorry that plain poor - we've had spell checker for a long time - no excuse). That spells hastily put together, not always but usually.
- From Ripoff Report this soul lost $750.00 and no refunds. According to the latest updatee. *UPDATE *UPDATE ..Niche domination system - Blogging To The Bank is a Ripoff, scam, and the refund policy was not honored; Video Tutorials and downloads did not work4
Finally if one wants to follow some of the people who dealt with Rob's products and affiliates. Just follow this forum robertbenwellexposed .
- From this you find several people complaining about being taken or having problems getting their monies back. One fellow supposedly lost $4000.005. He has also filed a Ripoff Report to be read in detail. (http://ripoffreport.com/reports/0/315/RipOff0315404.htm)
The reports of negative feedback is mounting. True there are those who don't like successful people. But if it is an attempt to be honest in the presentation, the customer service skills are very short, and needs to drastically improve. Also making suggestions that are misleading must be dropped, this will increase the honesty level. If you start fresh, it's a real fresh start.
The latest venture is bloggingtothebank 3.0. Just his regular bloggingtothebank site renamed within. And as with all other companies with a lot of fluff, with offers of of extras that are worth thousands, to entice you to buy and that it is a bargain. A lot of stuff being offered are already available on the internet for free. Are the extras worth it, if when puts it to practice, unless deceptive.
My recommendations "Don't buy". Check out the products thoroughly, if you are even thinking about biting. To get the results claimed you must duplicate what is being done, which is just selling a program. It's like this: Joe Someone makes a $100 in a week and sells his methods to every one (with a lot of claims) and makes $10,000 for the month (from selling the program). So guess what now he can say I"ve made $10,000 a month, and sells the program with a different twist, and makes now $20,000 a month from you. In one sense yes he made money from a blog, but it's really from selling the program.
Blogging to the Bank and it's sister products, all need:
- Better customer support.
- Reliable refunds
- Durability: The sites sold or services, must last and continue
- Honesty: Show your startup sites with a full disclosure (no need to black out)
- When claiming 300 packages for sale -- do exactly that, and that includes affiliates buying the products too.
If one wants to Blog and make money at it. Find your expertise, and hone your writing skills and style. Write about your passions, if you love Gardening/autos/etc, or better still within those, a specialized site or articles ie: growing a particular squash, or polishing a bumper, etc. If you want to be number one on a search engine, pick a good name, and interact with your commenters. In other words it is going to take effort. Or design your own system, and if it works promote it.
It should be noted that the vast majority of the comments below are negative about, and quite a few have tried Rob's products with very dismal results and expectations. The spelling mistakes, and deceptive practices he supports. Additionally there seems to be no real customer support. All speaking of a SCAM.
Latest Rob Benwell products
If anyone knows of any more products he is putting on the market or his brother. I will gladly list them here. It is also well known that Rob Benwell works with Chris X. Also in comment on other products please leave a note about their service to the product or if the product worth the monies.
Update: Oct. 2010
Well from the input of my commenters here are a few more products of Rob Benwell's to avoid.
Blogging Espionage: (gleaned from comments)
This involves a deceptive practice of getting a domain that was once out there, and then creating lies on backdating to it, as if this has some credibility to it.
Auto Blog System X. (gleaned from comments)
This is a system of generating a bunch of blogs automatically. And however it is done feeding them in a RSS feed. For us who blog, a lot this RSS feed is available. However he goes on discussing avoiding Google's banning, which sounds like suspicion to me, Google bans for reasons to provide quality content.
References - Available on other sites
- 1. Review of Google Annihilation | Rob Benwells\' Scam Review | Review Boss
1.Google Annihilation Review It's been a long time since I've written an Internet marketing product review. Though there are plenty of next BIG
- 2. Google Annihilation is a scam! | Internet Income Review
Hey people dont waste your money! I already did that for you. I bought this so called 'software' and it doesn't do a thing, much like the support Original link down. http://internetincomereview.com/google-annihilation/google-annihilation-is-a-scam.
- 3. Rip-off Report: Google Annihilation Google Annihilation is not as Promised. UK Internet
Google Annihilation Google Annihilation is not as Promised. UK Internet
- 4. Report: Nichedominationsystem.com,Rob Benwell
Nichedominationsystem.com; nicheannihilationmethod.com Blogging To The Bank is a Ripoff, scam, and the refund policy not honored; Video Tutorials and downloads did not work; United Kingdom Internet
- 5. Scammed by Robert Benwell
I have been scammed by someone called Robert Benwell, I am posting this warning so nobody else gets ripped off! He scammed me for $4000 in December 2006
- 7. Nche Annihilation Method Review | Rob Benwells New Stupid Freaking eBook! | Review Boss
Niche Annihilation Method fails!
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Comments are welcomed.
Your comments add content, and tell what is currently happening. Whether the product support is improving or not. So they are welcomed but attacks against Rob Benwell are not endorsed or supported. The interest is whether there are improvements in the products being sold. Or are deceptive practices still being employed.
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