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The Case Against Boeing

Updated on May 5, 2011

Frivolous?

Actually I don't believe that the National Labor Relations Board (NLRB) has a leg to stand on regarding the action they initiated regarding Boeing's decision to open a second 787 Dreamliner production facility in my home state of South Carolina. Their leg to stand on might be the political stump of the peg-legged pirate who navigates the USS Obama but beyond that it gets more than a bit shaky.

I first reported on this fiasco a couple of weeks ago when it broke.. I continue to follow this story as it involves 1,000 jobs in South Carolina that just came on line. Boeing plans to beef up that work force to the 5K range as production is brought on line. You can read my first account here:

http://hubpages.com/hub/The-Right-To-Work-And-Boeing

Here in Carolina we value the right to work and advocate anyone's right to work without any coercion being brought to bear upon the workers by union influence. That's the way it is here in the Palmetto State. It's a business friendly environment. Evidently the NLRB, under Obama, has decided that it isn't. That is in direct conflict with the charter granted it by Congress when the agency was started. It was created to be a "neutral" arbiter in solving labor disputes, not as a tool for union goons to try to get their way. In other words, it has now been totally politicized.

Boeing is now firing back at the NLRB as should be expected. I think I'd be firing away myself if the use of misquotes and innuendo were coming my direction over an economic decision that my company made regarding where I could, or couldn't, open a facility. The strike by the union back in 2008 hit the company in the pocketbook for around $6 billion. That's a whole lot of "change" as Obama would term it. The gist of the complaint is that Boeing retaliated against the union by transferring work away from Washington state. Does that mean that Boeing is required to operate their facilities only in that state? By all appearances that is the impression I get. But get this. Boeing did not close down any facility in that state in order to open up its plant in South Carolina.

Most people are smart enough to realize that if you didn't retaliate then you didn't violate the law in question. They didn't fire any of the union members, move a plant away from where it operated and not one penny was lost by union workers. Unless they are counting the money that the plant in Charleston will generate for the workers, their families, the city of Charleston and the state of South Carolina. Many of the things I find abhorrent about unions in general is their crybaby attitude. Put your big boy panties on union members.

It is also ironic that the decision was made in 2009 and here 2011 is well underway. Yeah I know, these things take time and none of this has anything to do with the Obama administration attempting to throw a bone the union's way. Of course not. That would never happen. Neil Cavuto interviewed a union talking head concerning the issue and the actual way the law reads. He pinned her ears back on the issue and she stuck to her "they broke the law" spiel. At times he gets a bit testy about the woman talking in circles. Take a look.

http://video.foxbusiness.com/v/4657077/nlrb-files-complaint-against-boeing-over-non-union-plant/

I think my Senator, Jim DeMint, has hit the nail on the head. This whole nonsense is centered around a political favor extended by Obama for the union support he got during the 2008 election. It smacks of politics, it totally outside the charter of the NLRB in being a "neutral" party and is a disservice to a corporation that has a work force totaling 160,000 workers. Boeing has done nothing more than deciding to protect its economic interests. They fired no one. In fact, they have hired 1,000 South Carolinians and plan to add 4,000 more. They closed no plants in Washington state and, in fact, have added an additional 2,000 workers in that state since the decision was made in 2009.

I am tired of listening to union crybabies. Look what they have done to the US auto industry and the US steel industry. There is a reason they call certain areas of this nation "The Rust Belt." One of the primary reasons that many corporations have moved their operations off shore lies squarely in the laps of the unions and their excessive demands about pay and benefits. It is always better to have a job than to have no job. That is unless you have that entitlement mentality.

I watch with interest as this plays out. Is the Obama administration anti-business? I'll let you answer that. I believe you know what I think.

Have a great day.

The Frog Prince



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      breakfastpop 6 years ago

      Great piece of writing Frog Prince and and an infuriating situation. Let me solve the mystery...Obama is anti-business! As for the unions, now more than ever they are bearing an uncomfortable likeness to the Gestapo by inserting themselves into everything. Awesome!

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      partisan patriot 6 years ago

      Another Goodie Froggy

      Can you say Adios as the plant heads south of the border to celebrate cinco de mayo próximo año!

      Barrackie Boo and his boys won't stop until they allow their Union Thugs to run every last American Company out of this country!

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      Alastar Packer 6 years ago from North Carolina

      Read the article earlier then clicked on the link for the first one and that useless 'my freeze' page showed up. Thanks Frog for the Boeing situation, your becoming my front page paper read on these type stories.

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      Old Poolman 6 years ago

      FP - I suspect a letter was sent by the Unions to our Politicians with this warning:

      Unless you want to see a serious decrease in campaign contributions from the Unions, you will put a stop to this Boeing plan.

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      rkhyclak 6 years ago from Ohio

      "smacks of politics" what on Earth doesn't anymore? Great, informative piece. Looking forward to more as it becomes available. Thanks Frog!

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      The Frog Princess 6 years ago from Florence area of the Great Pee Dee of South Carolina

      North Charleston needs Boeing. South Carolina needs Boeing as many other high unemployment states do and if and only IF the poly's stay out of Corp business will the US become a industrial country again. Service country does us all no good.

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      WillStarr 6 years ago from Phoenix, Arizona

      As we can see by the odious actions of the NLRB, there is an incestuous relationship between Democrats like Obama and the various unions.

      A peek under the union/Democrat rock reveals the close relationships like Acorn and SEIU (both founded by the same man!) with people like Barack Obama, not to mention other key Democrats.

      The left demonizes business while glorifying union thuggery. (Karl Marx was a big fan of unions!)

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      Stu From VT 6 years ago

      Bingo Frog. This is pure "corporatism;" the NLRB is taking on socialist dictatorial powers reminiscent of the controls the Nazi Party imposed on businesses, trade groups, private clubs, etc. The Obama administration just doesn't get it that in a free market society, private groups such as businesses exist to serve their own ends, not those of the central government. Boeing has a right to construct a plant in any locale that grants a building permit, end of story.

      Stu

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      Old Poolman 6 years ago

      Stu, great summary of what is going on. You think the Unions may be applying pressure to the present administration?

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      CHRIS57 6 years ago from Northern Germany

      There has to be significant migration from other Boeing facilities to SC. A lot of qualified aircraft buiders have to move to South Carolina or do you think you can hire people off main street and let them assembly aircraft? A lot of training and learning will be necessary.

      I follow the Boeing moves from a more professional viewpoint, working in the aerospace business. If Boeing really wants to be successful with the 787 (some call it 7late7), they will have to do a lot more than setting up an additional location for final assembly.

      So nobody should be too nervous, there is plenty of work ahead, in Seattle, in SC and in more places to come. And yes - the 787 will be a success.

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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      Chris - Point one. There are machinists, former aircraft mechanics and servicers, and skilled labor in South Carolina. We don't just pick cotton ya'll.

      I follow what is going on because the NLRB has overstepped its bounds. The only reason the imbecile who heads it is sitting there is because Obama slid him in as a recess appointment. Congress wouldn't ever approve that appointment and Obama knew it.

      The real point here is that the NLRB has overstepped it bounds now and become a union puppet. Have a nice day.

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      Ghost32 6 years ago

      "...the political stump of the peg-legged pirate who navigates the USS Obama...."

      Jim, that's one of the best lines ever penned. Or pecked, whatever.

      Of course the NLRB has no case. But then, if the Pirate in Chief can presume to tell the Supreme Court what is and what is not Constitutional, hey....

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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      Fred - I'm a pecker but not a pecker checker. That's a stone cold fact. LMAO

      I had visions when I wrote that!

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      Ken R. Abell 6 years ago from ON THE ROAD

      Great Hub. Well said--stuff that needs to be repeated because evidently politicians are deaf.

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      The Frog Prince 6 years ago from Arlington, TX

      Ken - I know they're deaf. There is no doubt in my military mind. This past November we sent them a message and many of them didn't get it. We don't want business as usual anymore. Then I read about this and sure as doo-doo stinks they didn't hear a damned word we said.

      https://hubpages.com/politics/Beware-Of-Proposals-...

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      Dave Mathews 6 years ago from NORTH YORK,ONTARIO,CANADA

      I see nothing wrong with creating another 5000 jobs in a state where Jobs are desperately needed.

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      Old Poolman 6 years ago

      Common sense would tell us the Government would be thrilled to have a large Corporation willing to expand their operations on US soil. Key word being expand, not replace. New jobs, increased tax base, and so many more positives.

      I'm trying like heck to think of the negatives this expansion would bring to our economy and our country. Nope, I just can't think of any. If anyone reading this hub knows of any negatives, please share them with the rest of us.

      I suspect this resistance has much to do with the Labor Unions and their oh-so close relationship with our government leaders. Feel free to challenge this thinking on my part, but tell my why this expansion by Boeing would be bad for our country.

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      Stu From VT 6 years ago

      Old Poolman,

      Thank you so much. I'm certain the unions are applying ALOT of pressure here. They contributed enormous amounts to the Obama campaign and Democratic Congressional candidates. That money comes with alot of strings attached. In the end, I think Boeing will get what it wants, because no legal theory can support the NLRB's position. But Obama has to "keep up appearances" if he wants that union money to keep flowing to him and his cronies in Congress.

      Stu

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      Stu From VT 6 years ago

      Frog, regarding your visions, did you have them exactly three times? :)

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      Stu From VT 6 years ago

      Old Poolman,

      You are so right. Would Uncle Sam rather have 5,000 new jobs in SC, or China? Offshoring is not a simple matter of paying lower wages. Part of the problem is driven by high taxes and overregulation.

      The feds ought to get out of everything except running the military and maintaining the interstate highway system. We can do everything else ourselves.

      Stu

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      James A Watkins 6 years ago from Chicago

      Truly a wonderful article. You made many great points. As you so wisely pointed out: "That is in direct conflict with the charter granted it [NRLB] by Congress when the agency was started. It was created to be a "neutral" arbiter in solving labor disputes, not as a tool for union goons to try to get their way."

      Amen!

      And this is very important: "The strike by the union back in 2008 hit the company in the pocketbook for around $6 billion."

      This sort of fact is always skipped over by socialist zaelots.

      You asked an excellent question: "Does that mean that Boeing is required to operate their facilities only in that state?"

      Apparently to President Obama and his ilk the answer is yes.

      Well done!

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      Stu From VT 6 years ago

      James,

      Exactly. The NLRB has no constitutional power to dictate where a company sets up shop. Such control is called "corporatism" (forcing businesses to comport their activities to further the attainment of government goals), a feature of socialist, not democratic nations.

      Stu

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