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Top OJT (On the Job Training) Jobs
The US Department of Labor and each of the 50 US States analyzes information from accumulated work-related databases to prepare reports that reflect employment and business trends. Many counties and some Chambers of Commerce and Economic Development entities prepare these reports on a yearly basis for their areas, and sometimes break figures down by the fiscal quarter.
Background
Since Michigan has suffered a large number of layoffs and an increasing unemployment rate across the state, I have been analyzing business and labor data from a variety of additional resources for the Wolverine State. This includes actual job listings in comparison to Top Job forecasts for the state and various metro areas.
Happily, there has actually been some correlation between the forecasts and actual jobs posted by employers.
The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 allocated Employment & Training (E & T) funds along with infrastructure money to create new jobs, and Education & Childcare funds to help the unemployed and underemployed and their children.The results indicated success.
This article will look at the Top 10 Jobs related to:
- Forecasts from available data to 2018
- Demonstrated job numbers increases
- Jobs usually in high demand and available on job search engines across the Internet
Who Will Win the Fast Growing Jobs?
Indicators point to two certainties:
- Between 2009 and 2016 and 2015 - 2025, fewer workers from ages 16 - 54 will exist.
- During the same years, larger numbers of Senior Citizen workers age 55+ will exist.
We have heard of the aging American population for decades, but what are the related implications for new jobs?
- First, by 2016 the labor pool is to have grown to 164,200,000. This is over 13 million more people, but less than the increase of 1996 – 2006, which was 17.5 million. However, we still have 13 million+ more people that need jobs by 2016. Unemployment rates in most US States were already high in early 2009.
- Second, we have more Senior Citizens (ages 55+) in the labor pool by 2016 - almost 50% more, so they are a) the fastest growing part of the labor pool and 2) the fastest growing part of the American population overall. At the same time, they are having a harder time keeping jobs and finding replacement employment when downsized.
- Working Young People ages 16 - 24 and the audience for many education and job training programs supported by tax dollars decreased from 14.8% to 12.7% of total workers during the Obama years (2009 - 2016). This suggested less competition between youth and adults for the same jobs, and that's what I saw in Ohio during those years. About 3.3 million jobs were freed up for adults.
- Working Adults ages 25 - 54 decreased in number by 3.8%, even though that age group increased by 2.8% in the US population. By 2016, there were more people in this age group, with fewer able to work.
Nursing Jobs at All Levels Are Increasing
The federal, state and local job growth projections for the occupations below were exceeded by 2016 and much further exceeded by June 2018.
Top 30 Jobs Projected Through 2016
My notes are added to explain discrepancies and developments.
- Registered Nurses (RNs): 587,000 new jobs expected. Associate degree - This is usually a 2-year degree from a nursing school or college and can lead into a BSN (Bachelor of Science in Nursing). In some schools, a students can work at the attached hospital and earn tuition reimbursement each semester and receive time-off with pay to attend nursing classes. This is the fastest growing career field in America, because of new position and turnover, and Travel Nursing, even within one's own city is even more well-paying.
- Retail Sales: 557,000 new jobs; Short OJT
- Customer Service Reps: 545,000; Moderate-term OJT
- Combined Food Prep and Service: 452,000; Short OJT
- Office clerks: 404,000; Short OJT
- Personal Aides and Home Care Aides: 389,000; Short OJT
- Home Health Aides: 384,000; Short OJT
- Post-secondary Teachers: 382,000; Doctoral degree (e.g., PhD or PsyD or EdD)
- Janitors & Cleaners: 345,000; Short OJT
- Nursing Aides, orderlies, and related: 264,000; Postsecondary Training Certificate
- Bookkeeping, Accounting, and Auditing Clerks: 264,000; Moderate OJT
- Wait Staff: 255,000; Short OJT
- Child Care Workers: 248,000; Short OJT
- Executive Secretaries and Administrative Assistants: 239,000; Work experience in a related job. Some employers are requiring a certificate from a vocational school or a bachelor's degree.
- Computer Software Applications Engineers: 226,000; Bachelor's degree (at least)
- Accountants and Auditors: 226,000; Bachelor's degree. Forensic Accounting is gaining stature and new job openings. This tracks down fraud, error, and mishandling of funds.
- Landscaping and Groundskeepers: 221,000; Short OJT
- Mainstream Elementary School Teachers: 209,000; Bachelor's degree. In Ohio, all teachers have a time limit by which they must have earned a Masters Degree to continue teaching. Some colleges have discussed not awarding an endpoint Bachelor's, but only the Master's. College dropouts generally have 10 years to return and complete their degrees in Ohio.
- Receptionists and Information clerks: 202,000; Short OJT
- Truck drivers for semis, tractor-trailers: 193,000; Moderate OJT and CDL license. The licensing may be included in the training program. ;
- Maids and Housekeepers: 186,000; Short OJT
- Security Guards: 175,000; Short OJT
- Carpenters 150,000 jobs: This is an Apprenticeship Program with 150,000 new josb forecast to 2016 (Long OJT). A Journeyman Carpenter is as qualified in his trade as a physician is in his/her own.
- Management Analysts: 149,000; Bachelor's or higher degree and Experience.
- Medical Assistants: 148,000; Moderate OJT. Many vocational schools have emerged that offer training for a Certificate in Medical Assisting. Some employers prefer Medical Assistant applicants to possess these certificates.
- Computer Systems Analysts: 146,000; Bachelor's degree (at least)
- General Maintenance and Repair jobs (does not include auto mechanics)" 140,000; Moderate OJT
- Network Systems and Data Communications Analysts: 140,000; at least a Bachelor's degree
- Food Preparation Jobs in cafeteria, hospitals, retirement centers schools, etc.: 138,000; Short OJT
- Teacher's Assistants: 139,000; Short OJT. Some school districts use volunteers such as grandparents when enough paid assistants are not available. (A few school districts I know require a Bachelor's degree for this position, but this is in a special needs classroom and may be justified.)
No Experience Required?
Many of the Top 30 list of occupations creating the most new jobs requir o experience and only short OJT.
Other jobs in this list may not require previous experience, but do require post-secondary education and a certificate or a diploma.
The advanced education may be a barrier to employment for those that cannot afford it, but training dollars may be available locally through Workforce Investment Offices in each county.
Cities With the Largest Job Listings
New York City - 
Houston - 
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Dallas - 
Atlanta - What Do the People Percentages Look Like?
Top 10 Fast Growing Jobs by Number of Jobs
Only three out of the Top 10 can be performed straight out of high school with no experience and in some Cities, only the two categories of Aides is included. Position descriptions online and in news ads often state the qualifications required for the Medical Assistant openings, so you can find out.
- Network Systems & Data Communications Analysts: 53% increase; requires at least a Bachelor’s Degree
- Personal Aides & Home Care Aides 51% increase; Short OJT
- Home Health Aides 49%; Short OJT
- Computer Software Applications Engineers 45%; Bachelor's Degree
- Veterinary Techs 41%; Associate’s Degree
- Personal Financial Advisors 41%; Bachelor's Degree
- Makeup Artists, Theatrical/Performance 40%; Post-secondary Vocational Certificate
- Medical Assistants 35% Moderate OJT; However, this job may require a training Certificate in some companies.
- Veterinarians 35%; First Professional Degree (Doctor Of Veterinary Medicine Or DVM)
- Substance Abuse And Behavioral Disorder Counselors 34%; requires at least a Bachelor's Degree
Aging and Finding a Job
Many more of the oldest of the older Americans will be in the workforce by 2016. This is likely cause for the discussions we hear about raising the standard retirement age to 75. This would free older people to work more "legitimately" perhaps, at the same time guarding against any demise of the Social Siurcity system. If not degreed or if out of the workforce for some years, the OJT jobs in the fastest growing occupations may be the right jobs for many of these individuals.
Since more Seniors Citizens will be working and looking for work, then job applications and interviewing processes may need to change with that trend. This might include eliminating some interview questions and some pre-employment testing.
For example, a question about the top five hip hop stars and some youth-oriented scenario questions in 2016 would probably not elicit a response from seniors.
Credit checks for Seniors might be inappropriate as well. Overall, Workforce Development as a discipline needs to look into this.
An interesting aspect of these changes is that adults ages 25 - 54 will be competing with older Seniors for the same jobs, instead of with the youth with whom they competed in previous years.
© 2009 Patty Inglish
Comments & Ideas
Interesting information. Thanks for writing this, pal! Voted up :)
Thanks for the information here. It's useful and well researched.
Great work..thanks for sharing.
great article. We all have to eat and pay bills. What has happened to our society,It's all bs 50 the new 40,cougars.
Fact we let to many people in our county. Now we are over crowded not enough jobs for every one and employers are milking it salaries are getting lower and lower due to more people applying for the same job and employers are taking advantage by lower salaries higher kids living at home is just cheaper for employers has nothing to do with age. President Obama needs to make a law emploers must have equal amount of young and older workers in the work place, just like we did to stop racism. We did to enforce a law if an employer has 4 employees to must be younger and to must be older or they will be fined then this bs will stop.
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great article indeed it helped me with ma school work am doing retail business management and i must admit... .it is an interesting field am very passionate about it.hope ma passion will take me places.thank you for such an outstanding work.
Great article. I will try to apply for some of these jobs.
You've compiled some good information here. Thanks.
Great Article. Tremendous amount of information and stats. Thanks for sharing this is why I love Hubpages.
Interesting info & comments. When I did the hiring for my own company, I would rather hire someone with a good attitude & curiosity & willingness to learn than any experience. Then I taught them how to make over $100k a year and finally sold the company to one the brightest.
I really enjoyed this hub Patty, very well done, accurately depicting several changes that will no doubt take place in the next few years!
Very detailed and helpful information. Thank you for sharing!
I saw some information on home health aide stuff
interesting information about hub pages thanks for sharing
Thanks for inspiring article. Starting OJT (for college students) could be challenging but it's really worth it.
Great hub Patty! I'll be forwarding it on to several friends who have come to find that their chosen college degrees have left them horribly unprepared for what the real job market is demanding.
This is a very encouraging hub. I wish we could see some of these jobs coming available in our part of the country.
A lot of great information.
"30.Teachers' Assistants - 139,000 Short OJT. Some school districts use volunteers such as grandparents when enough paid assistants are not available." - Hopefully, the volunteers will be paid, if it doesn't interfere with their own source of income?
Informative and interesting hub. The job situation is truly a concern for many of us. I am almost 63 and I want to work for a while longer. Fortunately, I have been able to find work in several venues since I retired at 55 and now have an awesome job that is perfect for me. I must admit that I am not working solely for the salary. I do have some comments to make, but I should keep them to myself except this one: welfare recipients are not in any way better off than hard working career people. There, I said it.
awesome hub!
very informative hub. I was following your work for some time. Nice job
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Pretty fresh - federal, state and many counties. Just a couple of states have come out with data to project into 2017; just 2-3 have it to 2018.
How current is that BLS data? Was compiled in the last year or at another time? I would guess that the labor force participation rate is going to hit a boom as more people are racing to save for retirement, pay down credit card debt, and build up savings to get along in the new cash economy.
Excellent article!
Intersting news on my area, Ohio
Honestly everyone...I am a 35 year old female who has been self-employed since the age of 16 on the same job as a newspaper distributor for one of this countrys leading newspapers. I love my job and my pay is good, however i have scene a 72% decrease in pay since i started in 1990. I never received any help from government agencies what so ever and I must say....Those whom are on welfare and live of the"SYSTEM" are doing better than the majority of us that work to pay the bills. NO EDUCATION REQUIRED!
nice (and scary) hub!
Such a great work . impressive and its true i come here on hubpages only for your Articles much informative
Thanks carry on dear
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Thanks SO MUCH for all the kind remarks.
I do have a passion for loooking at job trends and then finding what jobs are really out there. Hope it helps. :)
Such great information, Patty. You have a passion for this and it shows through your work.
Hey Lady, once again, another superb hub. So thorough and in depth. I'm currently unemployed, but I've been making a little money online, and by the time the New Year rolls around, I plan to be earning a livable wage via writing and online endeavors. The closer I get to my self-imposed deadline of attaining writing success or "back to the trenches", the more anxious I get. The last thing I want to do is go back to conventional work. But just in case, it's good to know it's not totally hopeless out there. Thanks
Useful info.. in your Hub..
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wow, what a detailed hub!
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Thanks jonty!
Very well written hub .....
very much informative ....
Thanks for sharing this wonderful information ....
Keep up the good work ....
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Great Hub... very well researched and laid out... I believe just as technology is advancing at an alarming rate so too the job types will be ever expanding creating an ever increasing demand for people to facilitate the work to be done.
There is an endless opportunity to make money online and I am not just talking about selling products I am talking about as support people to the millions of self employed people who do make their living online...
Look at what these people do and think of how you could assist them in making their job easier and voila you just created a job for yourself...
Be creative... have fun with it...
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Depending on the school and state, RNs can start with a 2-year AA degree or a 3-year certificate or a 4-year BSN. Some people begin with a 9-month or 2-year LPN Certificate or AA and work up.
I wonder if most RNs really now require a 4yr degree. My one son couldn't get into nursing school at the univ he's attending because he couldn't quite get the required 3.0 gpa . . .
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Thanks for the comments and the link, Lynn.
Great article! Just goes to show the huge need for people to consider going for and embracing telecommute, telework, WAH work at home jobs, and for companies to offer work from home opportunities to its employees. To read more about this go to: http://www.telecommutingrealjobs.com/blog
Also if you are looking for work from home job opportunities, consider visiting this site:
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Indeed, maverickmonk, these figures vary year by year, at least. 2010 should be interesting. Thanks for commenting!
this is very nice information but then the stats can change any time so its not reliable to depend on these stats for a long time.. but for now i think it does hold it
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Thank to everyone for all the comments! The job market is a priority subject these days and will continue to be one for several years.
jayorban - I was just in Detroit recently and thought the GM Ren. Center car room looked more like a museum than a show room - and the layout inside the total building was pretty confusing for me, whicle a large convention seemed to be everywhere. There seemed to be a lot of closed-down shops. I saw a lot of construction going on in the downtown area, though, and lines were pretty long at lunch time at several places; so I hope all that means an economic upswing in the near future.
Nice post...
How come I can never get any comments on any of my hubs it drives me crazy. =(
Wow, more reasons why people need to learn to work from home right here, on their computers!
My, some disturbing facts there. Thanks for the stats.
Great hub! It is scray just looking at the stats here You did your homwork that is for sure!
Another one of your outstanding hubs, well done. Im crazy enough to take the thirty day challenge too ! Drop around when you get a minute...
Nice and big hub.
Good to read.
Most of all i liked the cild care workers. That's because it is an opportunity to contribute to society, to imlement one's experience, and feel a lot of stisfaction.
Thanks.
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lilmom0413 - Doesn't it seem like a waste of time? Before I found what I really wanted to do, I used to tell people when they asked that 'Since we work so hard in order to retire and do nothing, I wanted to simply do nothing now.' Then I found things that will interest me my whole life. I think that is what work should be about, and certainly not punishment.
People in America particularly live longer and longer with, often , less to do and less health status. Where's the fun and logic in that? It need not be so.
Thanks for the comments, everyone!
It is scary to think we work our whole lives to be out of a job and broke when we are old.
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Thanks for reading and leaving your comments, hubpageswriter and medarj!
When we become those older workers, we have the responsibility at least 1) to maintain our health as much as possible, 2) to stay alert and mentally flexible and reasonable to absorb new information and facts, and 3) to be willing and able to apply our experiences to better our employer's company. I think some older people try to hard to "be and look youn" and that's not necessary and others succumb to pain and the diseases of old age and get pretty sour.
I like the 95-year-old women in the midwest that wprked as a waitress and phoned in a 15-minute daily radio talk show as well. Everyone cannot do that, but everyone has value.
Cheers!
very nice informations, thank you !!!!!!!!!!!!
This is a very good article. Many employers have the belief that as one ages, one is not good for employment. I think that is just a big misconception. There are many good and responsible elder workers out there definitely.
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That's true ecoggins - if we like and can do the work, we should be able to keep on working. Sometimes senior citizens find work they like much better than their first or second careers earlier.
Thank you for sharing this hub. It is well researched and high quality. No doubt the job market is going to get overrun soon. My dad is nearly 73 and doesn't seem much closer to retirement. He loves his job and still does it well, so why quit?
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Community Service can be overdone, I agree. I performed way too many volunteer hours while working a fulltime job as well for 15 years. Sure, we got people up out of wheelchairs permanently and got kids through high school who otherwise would not have graduated, but none of my hours would count toward a nationalized volunteer database record now. I'm talking over 10,000 hours and I got pretty tired. Stuck in the flow of things, it accumulated before I even counted hours...
And 3 months Community Service gone out-of-control can lead into a year can lead in to permanent work for no pay, ao how will the volunteers eat & live, long-term? Sounds like, if thigns go wrong, North Korea, no joke. Read The Ginseng Hunter for the real-life events of today there. I think it's pretty much army, re-education camp, or starve.
camping Dan, If I were you I think camping is what many of us will be doing more of in the future if things don't turn around fairly soon.Especialy if President Obama requires all 18-42 year olds to give three months of community service instead of a regular job.
Great information. Thanks.
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Hi Erick - The projected demands meet actual job listings cross the country fomr time to time, so some projections are more legitimate than a few others on the list. Animal and human healthcare are always in need in many states. Check out any US State at http://www.indeed.com
The Stimulus Package is putting more money into some states for contruction, education, healthcare and child care.
Have a great weekend!
In many areas trained health care workers are lacking, but I was not expecting some of these other careers to be in such high demand.
Wow!!! Great stuff.
nice post
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Thanks for all the comments, Everyone! Phyiscal Therapist Assisrtant is a fast growing job right now (June, 2009) and does not require experience or a degree in many US states. Good pay, too. See the information at https://hubpages.com/business/Top-Stimulus-Package...
As always you hubs are very informative and its always great to find a great deal of what im looking for in 1 place. Keep up the good work.
very informative and helpful.
good hub for bad times
Thanks for the information you can see you have put a lot of work into this and I just like to say, job well done. Thanks
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Thanks for all the comments.
Camping Dan - good for her! Best wishes to your daughter.
MakinBacon - Adaptability is important, as you say and I think we should always be looking at job opportunities, even the day before retirement - one never knows what may occur.
PeggyE - Yes, the rush for higher education may not result in employment for some people. I know a lot of folks with masters degrees that are out of work.
One thing I found interesting among the lists was the variety. I seems those who are generally considered unskilled, and those with skills, both have ample opportunities going forward if they're willing to adapt and adjust to the realities facing them.
That's a helpful list for sure. You've presented a lot of solid, useful information that has not only helped me, but I'm sure others as well. I had no idea that some of the jobs listed were among the fastest growing ones.
We did look into Work Study. She ended up just creating her own job in the end. She took a talent that she had and is now selling that instead of looking for jobs that really do not seem to be there.
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lrowley - I went to a picnic at a retirement & nursing center today, and it was so dreadfully understaffed that it was not fun. There certainly is a need, as you testify.
Camping Dan - A fast food chain in my city did the same hiring practices, requiring 24/7 availability, even when their open hours were only about 12 per day. They cut out students and single parents, is what happened. I too want things to change for the students of today. At the same time - and this is NOT about your daughter, but about a stereotype - some college students are notorious in some cities for not showing up to work at McDonalds when they have an exam coming up or have been out too late at night; or for having few hours available to work, so all students suffer the bad image. How about the Work-Study program for your daughter?
My daughter is starting college this fall and for her and her classmates things have definitly been different. Many want to work but employers are not hiring them. They are being told that since they want to go to school even McDonalds is only hiring those with the most flexible schedules (unemployed adults). I hope things get better for these kids and everyone.
An amazing wealth of info here... it's great to see that, even in this economy, there are still plenty of opportunities that don't involve a traditional 4 year degree. My wife is in nursing, and the shortage of competent nurses is appalling, especially in nursing homes and assisted living facilities.
Thanks for taking so much time to put together this comprehensive and informative hub!
Thanks for the resources. You can find more jobs here on a regional web directory - http://www.ezilon.com/business/jobs/index.shtml .
It is a popular web directory that provides all valuable links.
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I don't understand your statement. Are you a teacher or not? Where were you looking? The City, State, and Federal labor materials are reasonable projections for 10 years' time, although yearly percentage increases are also available in some states and cities. They don't always match what is available in job listings on a given day.
Lots of variables -- In different places, there are many jobs, but no one is trained to do them. Most jobs are also not listed on the Internet. In fact the "hidden job market" contains too many jobs that no one (job seeker) knows about and is a market hard to crack. In addition, some locales don't have many jobs and workers simply have to move in order to work - something like The Great Depression, isn't it?
I have, however, begun comparing Federal and State labor department projections (made for 10 years' time) with actual job listings on major job search engines and do find a differences in most metro areas. What is the SAME in numerous job markets, between projections and actual listings are: healthcare jobs, particularly in Registered Nurses - and Retail Sales.
I used to be an elementary school teacher, and I kept hearing about all the jobs out there. Where? I was applying in three states and it took me 5 years to get a job. These DOL statistics are extremely misleading!
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Some individuals get bogged down in the paperwork of starting a business, whether its a one-owner self employed, partnership, a C- or S- corporation or any other entity. Quarterly taxes, self-employment tax, business permits, vendor's licenses and semi-annual taxes for the state from them, etc. etc. Then sometimes a person's taxes and other forms are all misplaced by local govts...headaches and nightmares...
One of our older patients rec'd a letter while she was in a full body-cast and all 4 limbs in traction in hospital, from Pres. Reagan, that stated her disability was terminated and she should start her own business. She had no income, no savings because of medical bills, and quickly became destitute. That's what started me questioning the business ownership model for older adults.
It's not just 'work, get money, put it in a bank/your pocket' for many self-employed or one-owner businesses; some people cannot handle the paperwork complexities and deadlines stress. Some states make it worse than others.
But at-will employment is just as you say - fired anytime for any reason or no reason. Hard to prove unjustified firing.
Thanks for the comments!
really that was a nice post.thanks for it.
It is pretty interesting that people think it is riskier to have your own business. People don't think about how risky it is to work for someone else. That person can fire them anytime they like. But I do understand that for older people it can be more risky because they have less options.
I also agree with urbanphoto. I think it's weird that 100 years ago, the only people who didn't work for themselves were the drifters and the losers. The hired men. Everyone either owned their own business or their own farm, or something like it. There was no concept of unemployment measured by the government, and most people had no fear of losing their income.
Back then, it was less risky to open your own business than to work for someone else. Today, it's viewed as the opposite.
Great hubs! Keep up the good work. Great info on job search.
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Thank for all the useful and kind comments!
raghu - go to http:www.indeed.com and search for "photographer" and then "videographer" by each state. You will see those jobs in the USA that way.
wat about photo and vedio grapher's. is there any such gud job for them to work......
Nice HUB Patty!
And some serious content!
This is a well written and informative hub, much of what is on peoples minds right now is answered here, it helps those who are in to planning their future and it helps with making the right decision, because like what was mentioned this generation is living a longer, healthier life and it puts challenges on employers who are still looking at age when they should be looking at what the person can contribute. Also it is important to note that even with the opportunities to start a business, a large percentage of senior workers may not want to be a business owner or entrepreneur, so it leaves them with taking what is available which may not be the best if the pay is low and the work is labor intensive.
urbanphoto has a great point! Thanks for the hub and for the comments!
wow nice piece of work.
I think society, the media and government are all too focused on creating jobs and being hired for jobs while there should be more attention given to the concept of creating your own job. Think about it - you can be hired as a janitor for $10 an hour while the company you're working for is charging $25 per hour for your work; or you can be your own janitorial company and compete with your would-be employer by charging $20 and keeping it all. Minus taxes, of course, but your $10 per hour would be taxed also. It's not difficult or expensive to start your own business as an independent contractor. There are hundreds of sites like HubPages where you can put up free web pages; dozens of free ad posting sites like Craigslist; and buying a domain name with a year of web hosting is under $100 if you comparison shop web hosting companies enough. Cold calling for clients by telephone and in person is also free. Just about any hobby or skill can be converted into a revenue generating business.
This is really good information.
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Thanks for the new comments - hope the information proves to be practical for getting people to work if they need it.
This was very helpful to me. I have so much to learn, but it is fun stuff. Please keep writing more good articles. Thanks.
I have been searching for this information for months and here it is in one place. Thankyou for the information, it's very helpful.
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Woodson - Yes, jobs will be invented and developed with new industries. Have to keep an eye on all this. Five years from now we should see work we never thought of before.
Great list. It's so important to keep an eye on the trends mentioned here. The future will hold a very different job market.
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Good comments! Attitude accounts for a lot in my opinion as well.
Thanks Princess Kari!
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