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Why I Quit Selling On eBay!

Updated on February 11, 2013

I've Had It With eBay!

Are you an avid eBayer? Are you making any money selling on eBay? I'm not! I've had it with selling on eBay!

If you scroll down, you'll find some of my most recent sales. While they will give you one of the reasons that I'm through selling, there are more. It seems that every time I turn around, eBay is coming up with new rules that make selling more difficult.

I remember the "good ol days" with eBay. I joined shortly after they started their auctions. Before they went public and started selling shares. It was a lot of fun back then and once you started selling, you were hooked. It was really nice that you could buy and sell with people from all around the world!

Personally, I think that they have just gotten so big that they are no longer worried about keeping their members happy. That they have so many members that they could care less if they lose some of us.

I would love to see another auction site that worked like eBay and could give them some honest competition, but it won't happen because people who sell on eBay are not willing to give another auction site a real chance. While some will list a few items on another site, they put such high starting bids on them that no-one will bid.

Yes, I know! This is because they don't feel that the new site has enough bidders to get the prices as high as they would like. Apparently they forget that eBay didn't have all that many bidders in the beginning either. But then, if people keep having sales like the ones that I have listed below, maybe the other auction sites will finally get their chance.

PayPal Advice?

As we all know, PayPal is just another part of eBay. When PayPal was first introduced, it appeared to be a good way of buying and getting paid for items sold on eBay and it grew to the point that it is now the best way to buy or sell anything on the internet.

Now, like eBay, they seem to want complete control over our finances! If you don't know what I mean, I'll explain.

Like most of you, I joined PayPal several years ago as I bought and sold quite a bit on eBay. Now I buy but sell very little. At first I thought that it was great. Then I started getting notifications that I needed to get my address(or account) verified.

To do this, I either needed to connect my PayPal account to my bank account or get a PayPal credit card. As I do not use my bank account for anything connected to the internet, I opted to get a PayPal credit card and my PayPal account got the "verified" seal of approval.

This went just fine for a little over a year, then I started getting notifications from PayPal once more saying that I only had xxxx amount of dollars that I could buy through my PayPal account unless I got my account "verified"! That if my account was not verified, there was a limit of $2000 that I could use to buy through PayPal and I only had another $35 before I reached that $2000 limit.

Naturaly, I called PayPal to see what was going on as I had a few hundred dollars in my account. Not $35! I was told that it did not matter how much money I had in my account. If my account was not varified, I could not pass the $2000 dollar spending limit.

They said that I needed to connect my PayPal account to my bank account or get a PayPal credit card. I told them that my account had been verified before and that I had a PayPal credit card! The lady on the phone said that it did not show that I had a PayPal credit card so she would connect me with that department and they could get the whole thing cleared up.

The people controlling the credit card told me that I had not used the credit card so they had cancelled it. I had not been notified of any cancellation and we all know that any time a credit card gets cancelled, it messes with your credit rating so I was a little upset. When I asked to get the credit card re-instated, I was told that they could not do that. That the only way to get the credit card back was to change my PayPal account to a different email and re-apply.

While I'm not sure how I will get this handled, I know that I'm not going to trust an outfit that works in this manner with my bank account! I still do not have the answer to the question of what happens with the money in my account if I'm only allowed to spend another $35?

It is as if PayPal or eBay is demanding that you get their credit card and use it or else! Wish I knew a good lawyer as this can not be legal. Has this happened to any of you? Any good lawyers looking to take on a class action lawsuit?


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Latest News Flash!

Pretty soon there won't be any reason to visit eBay! Their latest "revision" says that if you charge shipping fees, they will add the cost of the shipping to your fees.

Does that mean that the buyer will still be paying for shipping and eBay will be charging you for shipping also? Since when is eBay delivering mail??? How can they charge for a service that they are not providing???

I feel a lawsuit coming on!

I left the following comment but it hasn't appeared on the site as of this time:

It's crazy! Look at all of the items that sell for a couple of bucks on eBay. If your item sells for a buck or two, how can you pay eBay fees plus four or five bucks for postage?

I think eBay is trying to get only high priced items listed. Less hassle for them and larger fees.

Time for everyone to look for new auction sites. Give eBay what they are looking for. If everyone who lists and buys lower priced items leave eBay, they won't have people looking at the higher priced items either.

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How Can You Make Anything?

It's a little hard to make anything selling on eBay when your fees add up to more then the price that you sell an item for.

I received the eMail from eBay saying that listing fees were free for a short period, so I decided to give it one more try. Here is an example of my sales with "free listings":

Vintage Compact w/mirrors! Bakelight??

Final price: $0.49 --- (Auction) 190497096418 --- Feb-05-11 07:00:18 PST --- Final Value fee US $0.04 --- PayPal fee $0.39

Total fees --- $0.43, Sale Price --- $049, --- What I Made On Item --- $0.06!

Authentic Vintage Native American Scraper! Arkansas

Final price: $0.49 --- (Auction) 190497093986 --- Feb-05-11 06:47:50 PST --- Final Value fee US $0.04 --- PayPal fee

Authentic Vintage Arrowhead! Arkansas

Final price: $1.50 --- (Auction) 190497092500 --- Feb-05-11 06:40:22 PST ---Final Value fee US $0.14 --- PayPal fee $0.40

Total fees --- $0.54, Sale Price --- $1.50, --- What I Made On Item --- $0.96!

Iowa Republican Caucus Button! 2008

Final price: $0.49 --- (Auction) 190497088223 --- Feb-05-11 06:21:35 PST --- Final Value fee US $0.04 --- PayPal fee

If there would have been "listing fees", I would have ended up paying to sell a few of these items!

Why were my fees so high on an item like the first one that sold for $0.49? Because PayPal charges were not only for price I received for the item, but also on the price that was paid for shipping! Yes! PayPal (eBay) also gets a percentage of the shipping costs!

Be Cautious When Buying From China

If you plan on bidding on items from China, be aware of the pit-falls!

While there are many honest sellers in China, there are also a lot of sellers who are just out to take you. my apologies to the honest sellers because there is really no way of distinguishing the honest sellers from the frauds.

Feedback? Don't count on it! The dishonest sellers will keep stinging you along with stories of how it must be held up in the mail until your time for filing against them has past. They'll even give you fake tracking numbers. Or, you'll get emails that beg you to "Please don't give negative feedback because it's the fault of the mail services." Of course, there are eBayers that won't give anyone a negative feedback just because they are afraid of retaliation in the form of getting negative feedback themselves.

Never receiving your items is only one of several problems with buying from China. Another is that if you are the only bidder or the winning bid is less then what the seller wants for the item, they will just ignore the sale. When and if you complain, they will quickly blame it on the mail and refund your money so that you won't give them a negative feedback. In this way, they will not have to sell their items for the low sale price and still not get a negative feedback or complaint filed against them. These people deserve a negative feedback! They have just found a way to get around eBays "safeguards". If you list an item for sale, you have to realize that it may sell for less than you want for it. You are still obligated to sell to the high bidder!

When buying from China, you also need to be aware of the fact that when an item from China is said to be silver, gold, jade or bone, it is not necessarily true! Here are a few things to watch for:

Silver: Items from China that are said to be silver are probably what is really Tibet Silver! Tibet Silver has less then 30% real silver. Even items marked 925 may just be only plated with silver.

Gold: Item that are said to be gold are usually only gold plated or gold in color.

Jade: Jade from China could be made from many different ornamental non-jade rocks and it is widely understood by native speakers that such stones are not, in fact, true precious nephrite or jadeite but this is not made apparent in the eBay listings.

Bone: Many items listed on eBay are said to be made from "hand-crafted ox-bone". All this usually means is that some ground-up ox-bone is mixed with a resin and hand-poured into a mold by someone. Don't be fooled into thinking that you will be getting a valuable, hand-carved piece of Chinese history. The item was probably only made a few days or months ago and are only good for tourist souvenirs.

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I'll Still Buy On eBay!

Even though I can't justify trying to sell anything on eBay, I must admit that I still find some good buys. Here are a few catagories that I like.

eBay For Dummies
eBay For Dummies

The bestsellng guide to successfully buying and selling on eBay, fully revised and updated

eBay is the world's #1 shopping and selling site, where millions find bargains and make money with their own sales. Marsha Collier is the #1 eBay expert and bestselling author, with more than a million copies of her books in print. And eBay For Dummies has been the bestselling book on eBay since the original edition in 1999.

Thoroughly updated to cover all the changes in the eBay site, eBay For Dummies, 6th Edition gets you started with information about signing up and navigating the site. It shows you how to find the best bargains, bid to win, and complete your purchase securely. Then it guides you into become a successful eBay seller, showing you how you can pick up extra money in a tight economy with eBay sales.

Covers how to find bargains on eBay, bid successfully, and pay for your purchases safely

Helps new users become comfortable with the site and shop with confidence

Shows you how to set up a seller account, list items, offer customer service, ship merchandise, and receive payment securely

Prepares you for other issues that may arise

Explores eBay's special features, showing you how to work within the rules, use the community, and even set up a charity auction

Includes insider tips on becoming a better buyer and seller

eBay For Dummies, 6th Edition prepares you to save money on your purchases and make money on your sales, all from the comfort of your home.

From the Back Cover

Cash in on the eBay phenomenon! Bag big bargains, sell like a pro, and make a profit

What's better than saving money and making money, all without leaving home? That's what eBay is all about, and this bestselling, fully updated guide covers all its newest features. eBay expert Marsha Collier shows you how to use My eBay, make smart bids, conduct your own auctions, market and ship your stuff, handle privacy issues, and keep everything safe and legal.

Feel at home — get registered, find your way around the site, and customize your My eBay page

Be a savvy collector — find out how to identify real deals on collectibles and learn what people are buying

Join the community — share ideas in discussion groups and use the Trust & Safety resource

Become a stellar seller — learn to determine what your stuff is worth, when to list it, and how to make it irresistible

Picture perfection — get tips for photographing your items and showing them to best advantage

Mind your business — keep track of items you're bidding on, items you've won, and items you're selling

It's a wrap — complete your auction, accept payment, ship your items, and manage feedback

Keep the tax man happy — maintain the proper records and keep yourself out of trouble

Open the book and find:

How and why to give feedback

Secrets for great item listings

When to bid for the best deals

Cool sites and software to make using eBay more fun

Ways to keep yourself safe when selling or buying

How to communicate effectively with buyers and sellers

Tips for finding eBay's most trustworthy sellers

Why you should check out charity auctions

 

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      undecided 15 months ago

      I always want to start selling on ebay but them I read articles like this one and then I chicken out haha

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      Auction Essistance 2 years ago

      The restriction on selling limits has greatly reduced sellers ability to really profit like they used to. One way around the selling limits is to utilize one or more accounts attached to the same PayPal account.

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      Ade 2 years ago from South Wales

      I'm going to be in the minority here. I do really well from eBay and really enjoy it. I still work full time and use it to supplement my income. My wife doesn't have to work any more and brings up our kids. I do get some problems from time to time with buyers but I just deal with them and move on. Would I consider selling full time on eBay? possibly, but I would never just use eBay to sell on. You need a few ways to get your items in front of potential buyers whether its a bricks and mortar shop, market stall, website or Amazon never put all your eggs in one basket. If eBay went belly up tomorrow how would you continue to put food on the table?

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      Heather Walton 2 years ago from Charlotte, NC

      I too am an Ebay seller who remembers the "glory days" of making sales of over $1000 each month without Ebay restricting the number of items I can list each month. I have repeatedly submitted the required Paypal bank account documents trying to show that my bank account is my own. I have gotten unhelpful responses saying the documents are not acceptable, etc. Its very frustrating and I feel the sellers' rights are not protected. Everyone is fearful of negative feedback. Please bring back the old Ebay so we can once again support our families with our Ebay sales. Did we not help build the empire??

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      My Experience of Ebay 2 years ago

      Great article. I've used Ebay for years as a buyer and a seller and I've started slowing down the selling part and only use it to sell expensive things and post everything out with tracking information.

      I've been scammed by Chinese sellers selling fake gold and silver too but what annoys me are for every five buyers I'd say one will be a 'problem buyer'. I'd class a 'problem buyer' as someone who will bid on items and win them and then and then demand discount, I say no so and the buyer tries to blackmail me with the threat of leaving me negative feedback otherwise. I write this in their feedback and they get Ebay to remove it and then leave me bad feedback as revenge. Another thing buyers sometimes do is wear clothes they've bought and trash them and lie and say they arrived in that state. I had one lady buy some designer jeans from me and open a case and say they had blood all over the bum. I have PCOS and never have periods for a start, so this was impossible and a complete lie designed to embarrass me into just issuing a refund and saying no more about it but I knew it wasn't true. She wouldn't put photos on and sent them back and there wasn't a mark on them. It gets to the point where I feel too old to be doing all this messing about for small amounts of money. I'm a student so haven't minded all this faffing about but if I had a full time job I would never bother with this. I feel like I could earn £7 an hour, so why spend a few hours putting something on Ebay to only make £5 profit, have to wrap it, post it, track it, photograph it and deal with these bottom feeders? I sometimes find Ebay good for buying brand new clothes and box sets for people as gifts but it takes up so much time faffing about, plus the fees Ebay takes, I'm thinking of calling it a day soon. Got a couple more expensive things I need to clear out and then I'm closing my account no matter how difficult they make it to do this.

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      peachy 3 years ago from Home Sweet Home

      i am still new here. I think ebay is not a good option with many rules. WIll try etsy

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      anonymous 4 years ago

      I too have been on Ebay since the very beginning, and wish it was like before. I wish somebody had to marketing power to start a "new" Ebay like it was before.

      As a US importer and seller, the direct from China sellers are killing me and killing our economy. All my thoughts can be found my petition on change.org. Go there and search "stop china selling direct on Ebay:.

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      Takkhis 4 years ago

      Good informative lens! Thanks for sharing :)

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      ChimpWithKeyboard 4 years ago from East coast of England in the county of Suffolk

      I still sell on eBay, but I agree that that site seems to get more annoying day by day. The constant, seeming random changes they make are usually either pointless or they break something that previously worked. I always notice a huge drop in sales, whenever eBay changes too much of their site design at once, causing buyers to give up in frustration, when trying to navigate around the new quirks and bug introduced.

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      CanadaREVIEW 5 years ago

      Well I can see that Ebay has gone to the dogs and is not worth tickety-boo for selling on. Thanks for sharing!

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      Brewsterboy 5 years ago

      @anonymous: Know what you mean. Been with eBay since the beginning and never had a negative. Then, just recently had a disagreement with a buyer and got my first negatve. EBay wouldn't let me leave a negative for buyer. Only choices was a "positive" feedback or a"leave feedback later"! A real fair option.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      I feel the same way. I just can't make any money, and then when you work hard to maintain perfect feedback some person with a feed back will give you a negative because she didn't get her package fast enough on a holiday weekend.

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      HeartBroken62 5 years ago

      I am an Ebay seller...sold for several years, had family issues that caused me to close down, then came back to try again a couple of years ago...wow! The changes kept me from reopening with the products I used to sell because I would have gone in the hole...started bundling them together to get rid of the surplus and found a new product that has a really good markup so their fees and such don't bother me now (as much...I just pass the cost on to the buyer). Not sure about the new changes coming though.

      As far a feedback goes...when they stopped allowing sellers to be truthful about their buyers, it has been a real pain in the (you know what) and completely unfair to the sellers. What I find really funny in their new system is I have a 4.9 rating (out of 5) for shipping charges...I ship for FREE! (well sort of...it is included in my pricing.)

      Ebay does have some really "dumb" selling rules and they just seem to be getting worse. I am working hard on building things up so I can sell elsewhere...Hate that they shortened the time you can request fees back for unpaid items...really makes it hard to work with the buyers when life issues come up...I honestly don't think Ebay should be so involved in the customer service part of the sales...that is up to the seller to create a positive atmosphere for their customers. I don't generally have many problems in this area and when I do...I just block the person from being able to bid/buy from me again.

      Really like your work here...very honest and has great information. You are so right that the small ticket items (I used to sell many) are of no real value to the seller on Ebay anymore...funny though, I still see so many of them and wonder if those people even realize they are losing money on those items (they have to be!)

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      Brewsterboy 5 years ago

      Nick, I agree with you. The big problem that I see at some of the other auction sites is that the sellers are starting their items out at too high a price to get people bidding. When buyers see this, they head back to eBay and the other sites never get a chance to grow.

      Maybe if enough of us start listing on these other sites and at reasonable prices, they'll start being a little competition for eBay.

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      anonymous 5 years ago

      Ebay does not understand the most important part of an auction is the items for sale. Live auctions spend all their time trying to get good items for their next auction. If the items are there for auction, the buyers will come. If the auction is full of junk, buyer's won't come. Ebay should be focused on keeping sellers happy, so they list the best possible items on the site. If great items are listed, the buyers will come.

      Instead, Ebay is using a retail model, focusing on pleasing the buyer, at the seller's expense. Ebay is making it easier and easier for crooked buyers to steal from honest sellers. Ebay is also making it harder and harder for sellers to sell - by increasing fees, increasing fraudulent charge backs, and reducing search engine visibility. This causes the top sellers to look elsewhere - to build their own web sites, and to sell in other places.

      At some point, enough ebay sellers will have left to support an ebay alternative. And that will be the end of Ebay!

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      Brewsterboy 5 years ago

      I decided to try selling again with the usual "bad luck"! Had seen a Kobe Bryant basketball card sell for over $400 and realized that I had that same card. The bid on it sat at $46 until the last few minutes, then jumped to $126. Thought that it was a decent price for the card until buyer wouldn't answer my emails. Turned it over to eBay and they gave buyer four days to pay. Received payment on forth day. Was going to leave neutral feedback to let everyone know that eBay had to intervene but found that the feedback ratings showed that I could only leave a positive feedback now. Went to check his feedback once again and it said that his feedback comments were now private. They weren't before because I had read them before I had trouble getting paid. Weird huh!!!

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      Pam Irie 5 years ago from Land of Aloha

      I used to sell quite a bit on Ebay, but very rarely sell anything now. The shipping fees charged to the SELLER?!! Good grief!!!

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      WayneDave LM 6 years ago

      It really doesn't seem worth it, I'm not surprised you quit! This is useful to me. Thanks a lot for sharing.

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      anonymous 6 years ago

      i will be trying amazon to and ebid, ebay allow to many top rated sellers to shill bid and mislead in titles of the acutal item being sold. i reported a seller for shilling he was suspended and now sells private so no one can see. He sold a hot water jug/milk jug/custard jug last night £225, my friend in Australia emailed to ask if it had a rim on to hold the lid like a teapot his reply i have one of them and a custard jug that has no rim but a lid can be added ifi the buyer asks they can choose either. So if the buyer doesn't ask. he will get a custard jug with a coffee pot lid price £40 for £225 if he does ask he will get a hot water jug with the proper lid worth £49 -£125 for £225. both items have been made for certain ways to use, the hot water jug is for that so that the lid only allows the water to flow slowly. the custard jug with a coffee pot lid on when poured will fall off and the whole water will come out and could scold someone. Emailed ebay as usual nothing done, so reported to trading standards and there investigating as this is health and safety. hope they sort this dodgy seller out. also sol a tureen £114, one still on a buy it now £79 with a top rated seller no one is interested his sold as he had 2 serving spoons with it, look great it the picture and like porcelein, but there cheap plastic ones, no mention in the listing.

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      gooddealsbooks 6 years ago

      I also will not sell on ebay due to this and I do not give them any advertising in lenses anymore. I prefer Amazon unless ebay is the only one with it. I will buy but I use alternative sites now

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      yusuff2011 6 years ago

      I'm also an ebayer. I know what you share here is TRUE...thanks for sharing!

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      MsScarlett 6 years ago

      I, too, am a former ebay seller. I used to sell on ebay full time and it supported my family of five. I think things have changed a lot and not for the better, however, I think that there is still an opportunity there to make money. You have to reconsider the types of things you are selling and to me it never made much business sense at all to mess with items under $10. I don't think ebay was ever a good place to deal in items under $5 unless you have a TON and can sell in bulk/lots/dutch auctions. Just my 2 cents!

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