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Billybuc Strikes back! on his writers workshop

Updated on March 12, 2014

Google is Boss on the web, no matter what, we help each other fight the down trends for sure

SEO or no SEO if we help one another on hubpages, our articles have a chance to take liftoff, but in the end if Google wants to place them in the back of the ranking for whatever reason it shall be done
SEO or no SEO if we help one another on hubpages, our articles have a chance to take liftoff, but in the end if Google wants to place them in the back of the ranking for whatever reason it shall be done | Source

Hub Response to Billybuc from Cloud Explorer

"Great analysis Billybuc on the difference between writing for the pure fact of trying to earn using SEO (Article about: why using keywords alone and SEO isn't good enough anymore), and for the factors of the love of writing itself."

Some folks never learn, and some of us like myself have ways of correcting our poor grammatical errors that tell the search engines that our true powers of self optimization, and of being a article writer lies also in the ability to sense errors we make. Now in the case of a more technical writer, as your article pointed out, its not easy at times to detect probable low valued content that was once relevant (Some folks may produce articles in high volume, making for a difficult detection process for sure) , and currently has lost value due to out dated content or poor SEO management. (Update, Update Update! is my motto today)

Even if we write with a flare of creative powers on the web today, one must keep in mind how we communicate, whether it is effective or not. In your case Bill you communicate to more people on hubpages then anyone I know, hence the out poring of love for your hubpages locations even more then the average hubbers here, plus when you choose to communicate on peoples hubs its genuine, and shows you cared for their article they wrote for the most part (Communicating effectively online today scores huge, by means of insightful commenting fourth and back).

His inspiring article is rated at 5 stars by me in his effort to help us all in his unofficial Hubpages Writers Shop

This is the article Bill Holland aka Billybuc wrote that inspired the writing of this very article. "Thanks Bill"
This is the article Bill Holland aka Billybuc wrote that inspired the writing of this very article. "Thanks Bill" | Source

Using social elements to communicate makes all the difference

Networking today truly does count in a huge way, and visibility is another part of the equation, but your online reputation is the key to the pro level and social sharing factors for sure
Networking today truly does count in a huge way, and visibility is another part of the equation, but your online reputation is the key to the pro level and social sharing factors for sure | Source

Usage of a great example to expand on Bill's points he made

"The example I wrote about in the paragraph up above about making effective communications is why I believe you yourself have seen much more traffic then the average writer who writes so elegantly with a style all of their own on hubpages Bill, or without regard to the more evergreen (official hubpages resource) subjects, or that of SEO as you stated some of your very first articles had been written out to be."

The communications we make online is also a huge factor in why people pore in the love to our comment areas quite often, and when we stop, it shall begin to lessen as well in potential feedback. (I saw that with my own communications as I had to readjust to make room for a Youtube emergence I was planning recently around midsummer), and so I think your content will tend to get shared more frequently once communications are correctly being made amongst the right people (Sharing equates to caring, and more potential social shares as well.)

You per say Bill also have some pretty awesome subject matter, in which your articles tend to always leaned mostly towards helping others (self help topics and all), so who wouldn't want to share your articles bro, you mean well in a vast majority of them and they all are written with great emotional content and are of high quality word powers. (You deserve what you get, when you put out real stuff my good friend, and we love you for making the conscious efforts)

Those folks who've been only trying to follow the SEO monster online do well also at times, but all the folks who have poor grammar and try their hands at it, will tend to fall, and many of my hubs have fallen due to such a reality, but it makes me even more intuitive and tenacious when I step up to the plate and optimize just a single article.

This has become a technique in itself on the web, because if you update your content regularly, it will begin to get much more traffic as long as you make the needed changes that have keep it from flourishing in the first place.

Learning to network for success is tough today, but its doable

We all write to a online global audience today so high quality scores higher views period


There's many factors besides SEO today, social elements, and sharing factors are huge

The social elements (Article about: a writers responsibility as a social networking pro) of promoting ones digital works also comes into the equation, and in a huge way, some folks have established themselves as well balanced and fair when it comes to sharing their articles, while others are very abrasive and almost expect for people to visit their locations.

You and I both know that it all takes balance, and when its done right well the skies the limit, because a single article can take off like a bat out of hell on Facebook (Learn about paid promotions of your FB posts), forget about SEO, or on Youtube (Article about: fighting low web traffic views using Youtube) if placed into the description areas, and so it is all about the strength of a persons true online reputation today that will make a huge difference, and SEO is just a basic requirement to stay within the guidelines of how the web works for us content writers, web designers, and bloggers.

Google is boss, they will put an end to any fraudulent activities one may come up with over time for sure, but if you don't fall into any of those categories then again your potential is truly unlimited over time of course for most writers, who also fulfill the good grammar (article about use of good grammar) qualifications aspects.

There will be some writers however that will sky rocket in fame, online reputation and all no matter what, because like you stated in your article Bill, it is all about that writers voice (A strong writers voice article) for them, and sometimes in how they share their online profiles or profile images as well in conjunction with such a writers style or technique to delivering worded powers to the screen.

Video works wonders, so here's some cool tips

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Epic Conclusion

If you are a writer who cares to learn to master your craft of writing, it definitely takes time to get there. Some people aren't that good at writing sentences, words, or to basically articulate themselves properly, and especially when it comes to communicating effectively with others.

Question: should such a person just throw in the towel and quit trying to learn how to write online.

Answer: No way Jose, if you wanna get better at writing, practice, read more books, and those things that are challenging to read, write more often, return to school to learn proper English, and grammar. (Most of all have fun while doing it, and realize that no one is perfect, and we all make mistakes, that's why there an edit button on most online forum spaces, portals, or what have you.)

Billybuc was right, to succeed as a writer today takes a certain working knowledge of the more effective writing elements that make these efforts have a greater potential. Good grammar is something that is basic yet mandatory for online success, and many online writers need to adhere to this basic standard for the most part, those who care not for the overall quality of their writing will see the worst results for sure.

Additional advice for commentary and if you wish to comment below-

As for those writers who care not about what others perceive of their online success, they will they tend to go with whatever they throw onto the screen here. It is a grave mistake to do such a thing, if the same person is in seek of earning anything monetarily, or reputation wise, as well as for all sharing purposes.

As for myself as a online writer at hubpages, my style is very different when it comes to everything I choose to write. When I decide to publish articles here, as soon as they are done being fully written and content SEO, arranged and all I just go with it as is. Then about a minute or so after its published I dive deep into the editing process to pressure myself to churn out nothing but the best product I can deliver to that of the online community (List of traffic building communities), and this is my techniques and overall approach today.

I also do this because a hub that usually appears perfect to the originator definitely shall have multiple errors for most authors here, and I went back several times to hubs I swore were edited for high quality viewing, yet each time I reviewed them I located more errors.


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      Mike Pugh 5 years ago from New York City

      Hey there Spy, yes indeed this hub was necessary, due to Bill's inspiration, oh Yeah baby!

      Cheers to Billybuc, and his powerful writings of encouraging and inspirational words for us all.

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      Mike Pugh 5 years ago from New York City

      Thanks Ruby,you know its tough to support one another at times, but it feels so good to do so for sure, chat with ya soon in your hubs.

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      IAmForbidden 5 years ago from Neverland - where children never grow up.

      You did it Mike! That was very great!

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      Ruby Jean Richert 5 years ago from Southern Illinois

      Another great ' how to ' hub Thank's for sharing..

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      Mike Pugh 5 years ago from New York City

      @lrc7815 , Yes that dude never fails to bring it strong with all of his efforts here, both in his writings, and in that of helping his fellow hubbers digitally.

      His words are truly inspirational as well, and so as long as he continues to inspire us all, I shall try my hardest to help him out as he is a true friend of mine for sure.

      Thanks Linda for the kind words, and for supporting me & Bill here on hubpages, and I owe you some visits to your hubs for sure, see you soon when I get to catch up and all. Enjoy your hubbing day or evening.

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      Melissa Propp 5 years ago from Minnesota

      As I think you both acknowledged in your hubs, there is more than one way to be successful at hub pages, but without good grammar and well-written articles--the success won't be long-term. I appreciate the way both you and Bill share your experiences with us "newbies".

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      Linda Crist 5 years ago from Central Virginia

      Mike, this is great. Bill is amazing and for all the reasons you have stated. I'll never love to write for SEO but I am trying to incorporate it into the things I write about for pure joy of writing. If I can't make it down the road from networking and communicating with readers, then I'll just stay poor and keep writing anyway.

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      Mike Pugh 5 years ago from New York City

      LOL @flashmakeit, yeah me too online success comes a dime a dozen or maybe like a million to one, but its all good though, I will continue to dream on and write till my eyes bleed haha!

      Nah just kidding, thanks for the cool comment, and compliment too.

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      flashmakeit 5 years ago from usa

      You look very professional in your videos. I wish my online success was rich like Keenan Cahill did

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      Mike Pugh 5 years ago from New York City

      Oh yes indeed @billybuc, many people have gotten discouraged for whatever reasons they have. Many may make it a case of unfairness, and some will call it the Google hatchet that ended their online writing careers, and some will try to make a come back after calling it quits, because maybe they see no other alternative that they have here online or elsewhere to make an honest living today.

      With all those verifiable and highly probable truths being realized today, yes indeed us writers go through the wringer sort of speak, but only those who take the initiative to go the extra yard, and mile to adapt over everything that their facing will succeed to stand out above all the rest.

      This is what I believe and I know you have found your means to making it here so that you voice can be heard, as well as many countless others. I myself care not what happens anymore because i know I have already made my mark, and once time catches up to things I've done nested here and elsewhere online its inevitable for success to have been achieved.

      As they say patience is a virtue, and perseverance counts 100% in anything we choose to do, consistency is another key element, and then their knowledgeable insight as to how things work best for the most part in terms of online everything.

      Thanks for checking in, for the inspiration to write this very hub article in response to yours, and we shall be victorious Bill over time for sure, and no matter what we all seek to gain, because we put in the work, and did our very best in the end as well. That's all one can do in the end, and God shall do all the rest!

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      Bill Holland 5 years ago from Olympia, WA

      Mike, it truly saddens me when writers throw in the towel and give it up. There are some great writers on HP who rarely get views....and then there are some not-so-great writers who almost go viral because of the subject matter but certainly not because of their writing ability. That, to me, is madness, and yet I understand it because of the internet god we call Google.

      I got a comment from a Hubber this morning who has been on HP for four years and has 1000 views....four years, Mike! Talk about a writer who writes for the love of it. And the thing is, she was good!!!

      Anyway brother, great hub...thank you as always for the mention and kind words. We'll just keep doing our thing and see if we can't shake up the world a bit. :)


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      Mike Pugh 5 years ago from New York City

      Your very much welcome Diane, I do my very best to keep up with the efforts of my online buddies such as Bill, and maybe one day I will write about one of your articles, or even more, because there's more then one way to spread the love here on hubpages for one another, you know!

      Thanks for the cool comment, and I hope to catch up to your hubs soon, I am completely bogged down by loads of other things I have yet to get to, but I shall make it there in due time for sure. Chat with you soon on FB, or elsewhere.

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      Diane Minton 5 years ago from Evansville, Indiana

      Great almost a collaboration between u and BillyBuc Great Hub, easy to understand and assimilate!!! Thank you so much for the detailed advice and videos displaying the concepts.