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Hub score - Hubris?

Updated on August 11, 2018
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Retired counselor, 341 short stories published by FSU. I have 4 sons, love sharing photography, writing, love travel, sunshine, sea & Grace.

I love writing and love to share my experiences with others. When I first found HubPages, I hadn't realized the hubs were scored, so initially I paid no heed to my number. However, when I caught on to the fact that this was a value of my work and hubtivity, then I became interested. Each time my score went up or down a little, so did my smile.

Lets face it, improving ones score is insidious and infectious. I caught the hub bug about two months ago having come back to HubPages after a few months writing elsewhere. I was surprised to find I had a score in the 80's (after months with no added stories or hubtivity) and was encouraged by kind comments on my hubs from fellow hubbers.

I was further titillated with the new accolades and so with reawakened interest I decided to find out how to affect my score without writing a new hub. After tweaking a couple of the stories by adding more links (now we also have HubKarma to worry about) I noticed my score went up 5 points, then dropped 2, up 1 etc. I noted that my hub score (and smiles) climb rapidly with a new hub and then drop after a few days; it obviously pays to keep up productivity..and to keep smiling :-)

I wondered how I could more accurately manage these score (mood) swings. I found the technical answers to this question within the many helpful hubs on 'how to improve your hub score.' But in this hub I'm more interested in discussing the hook that these "quantifiable's" emote.

I mean, why would I be bothered by a number someone ascribes to my hub, when I realize the hub score isn't based just on writing talent and hub content? I think maybe because its a form of judgment and we don't write to be judged...or do we?

Being scored reaches the roots of the need for approval, pride in ones work, competitiveness, insecurity, etc. Writers put themselves out there ~ a part of the writer's essence is etched into every hub. So maybe that part feels judged and pride comes into play. On the whole I believe most of us aren't writing on Hubpages to make money or to be judged, but because we love to share through writing. (That in itself is an emotional act ).

Having read my share of other hubs, I'm amazed at the large number of excellent and talented writers on HubPages, and I feel humbled in this esteemed company. I've also noticed that the hub score doesn't necessarily reflect the talent of the writer, or the content of the hub.

So meanwhile, I find myself content when I have fan mail, when my score has gone up and when I have comments to read, but also a little pissed off when my score drops seemingly arbitrarily. It's hard not to get caught up when it's somewhat outside of your control. (what, a control freak, moi? Never!)...

So, I would really appreciate your feedback on the emotion attached to your 'number.' Thanks for your input in the following poll:

Does your hub score bother you?

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    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      8 years ago from Florida

      Yes, ThoughtMonkey, I agree with you! Thanks for voting and I appreciate your comments :-)

    • ThoughtMonkey profile image


      8 years ago from United Kingdon

      Being new to this and not knowing what I do right when I do it or what I do wrong when I do that I find the scoring very baffling. I enjoyed reading your thoughts, thank you I voted you up! I assume that is the thing to do when you like someone writing.

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Hi tnderhrt23 ~ I love your poetry (your heart and your humor). These HubScores are really governed by productivity and content - for example, I doubt that poetry will ever get as high a score as a hub about how to make money!

      I would think those who maintain 100 score work very hard to keep it that way ~ personally, I only write when I want to and when I feel inspired in some way. Thanks for your comments and for allowing me to link onto your fun hub :-) Helen

    • tnderhrt23 profile image


      9 years ago

      brightforyou, thank you for directing me to say it with grace, honesty and class! Yes I think those numbers hook the pride a control? let's not speak of it! LOLOLOL! Hugs for a job well done here!

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Hi arthurchappell, I agree. I wish we weren't scored. It takes away from the traffic from those who are talented writer, but don't have the time or inclination to write every day or write about certain 'sell-able' topics!

      I agree the 'yo-yo' effect makes no sense!

      Thanks for stopping by and adding to the debate!

    • arthurchappell profile image


      9 years ago from Manchester, England

      it's only natural to be affected by your hub score - one of mine dropped to about 42 before going up to the mid-60's. It's very hard to predict a trend when they yo-yo like that

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Hi artlader, welcome to hubpages. Thanks for stopping by and for your kind comments. I look forward to reading your hubs! Helen :-)

    • artlader profile image


      9 years ago from Aiken, South Carolina, USA

      Hi, Brightforyou,

      I clicked on the "useful" button and voted you up.

      As for the feedback you requested, well, I guess I am too new to make an informed statement, but I am a teacher and we usually like rubrics.

      The bottom line is, I do not like not knowing how to get an "A," I guess.


      Thank you for an informative, well-written hub.



    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Thanks Leni - I think there are a lot of us hubbers who are dubious about the Hub scores!

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      Leni Sands 

      9 years ago from UK

      Really useful hub. Thanks.

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Hi antimatter, thank you for your comments; I'm glad you are enjoying the scoring challenge!

    • antimatter profile image


      9 years ago from United States

      Great article. The hub score seems a little mysterious to me. I let this account sit for two years with no hubs and my score was down to 41, starting improving it about a month ago. It's a fun challenge.

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Thanks Micky Dee - its about time I got on with writing some new hubs!

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      Micky Dee 

      9 years ago

      Sometimes I allow a hub to sit unpublished for a couple days and the score rises and my overall score isn't affected.

      Congrats on being here a year!

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      Duchess OBlunt 

      9 years ago

      Why thank you brightforyou! I will return the compliment

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Hi Duchess - thanks for the comment. From what I have observed, those talented writers who write about popular topics and publish a hub frequently (as well as contributing with comments, fan mail, questions, answers and links within text) are the ones with the highest scores... way too much work for me. I write when I want to and because I want to share something with others. I love your work Duchess and love the nom de plume!

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      Duchess OBlunt 

      9 years ago

      How the scores are tallied still has me baffled, but I have given up trying to understand it. I like the community here, so I'll stick around, but I wish there was some clear cut way to figure it out. I haven't found it yet.

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Hi 2patricias thanks for your vote and comment! Glad to hear I'm not the only one... :-) PS I love your hubs!

    • 2patricias profile image


      9 years ago from Sussex by the Sea

      I ticked the 'funny' box, but as in funny-peculiar. Why should I care about my hub score - but I do! Not a lot, but I do look at it and when it is high feel happier.

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Hi Alissa, thanks for voting on my hub - I find the scoring a distraction, especially when the scoring doesn't seem to make any sense! I'm looking forward to reading your hubs!

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      Alissa Margaret 

      9 years ago

      Really well written! I just joined HubPages myself and don't particularly enjoy the scoring either. Rated up and voted!

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      thanks Rebecca, you've got some great hubs - I look forward to reading more!

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      Rebecca E. 

      9 years ago from Canada

      as usual an very informative hub keep up the good work. Keep on writing. For my own vote it was score affects me slightly, but I am quite busy with hubpages so there you go. Rated up and useful

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida


      Not bothered about my score at all. 0

      The score affects me slightly. 63%

      The score affects me quite a bit. 25%

      I don't like being scored at all. 13%

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Nice to meet you suny51 thanks for your comments - I look forward to reading your hubs!

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Thanks for your comment green tea-cher I appreciate your continued support!

    • suny51 profile image


      9 years ago

      Please count me in,I am here just for the sake of fun of all the experience and getting to know so many intellectual and interesting people.

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      green tea-cher 

      9 years ago

      Great topic, especially for new Hubbers! Thanks for sharing your thoughts on this.

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Hi Lori

      I remember you well, we talked about how we knew the meaning of words (when we were young) before we were told their meaning. Thanks for your kind comments - I think I know what you mean about becoming the score 'becoming an amusement' but I also think it brings it's fair share of angst.

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      Laurel Rogers 

      9 years ago from Grizzly Flats, Ca

      brightforyou-what a fabulous hub! I know I used to feel so distressed at my varying scores, asking the HubGods, "What's going ON??"

      Ah, after time, it does become somewhat of an amusement.

      Great job.

    • petermdhart profile image


      9 years ago from Cornwall, UK

      Well said!

    • brightforyou profile imageAUTHOR

      Helen Lewis 

      9 years ago from Florida

      Wow, just logged on and found your comments; thanks you guys, its good to feel I'm not the only one ~ Thank you for your support!

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      Petra Vlah 

      9 years ago from Los Angeles

      The score is mostly affected by activity - witing - commenting - following others - forum participation (every time you push a button)

      The activity is being indexed by Google and we know what motivates Google; talent is not one of the factors for sure, content about specific topics, where Google can attache adds and make a Profit, is

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      Belinda Hodge 

      9 years ago from Brisbane Australia

      I admit to finding the Hub Score baffling and I've never bothered to find out what I can do to make it go up! Now you've got me interested. Great links and references - thank you.

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      words cocktail 

      9 years ago from Australia

      :) I fail totally to understand the technicalities of Hubpages. It is easy and many hubbers have made it easier with their experiences but I still can not get the hang of adsense/amazon/ebay-whatever,SEOs etc. etc.

      So, I come and write to vent and share. I like the community hubpages has and it gave me friends. I also admit that there are times when I want to write for money but I fail. Absolutely FAIL and I do not regret at all.:)

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      M Selvey, MSc 

      9 years ago from United Kingdom

      "On the whole I believe most of us aren't writing on Hubpages to make money or to be judged, but because we love to share through writing. (That in itself is an emotional act )"

      You hit it on the head there! I think you have expressed the thoughts of many with this hub - well done!

      I also think it is possible there may be some petty game-playing that goes on with scores but as long as people remember why they are here, this shouldn't matter. Just keep writing and keep enjoying what you are doing!

      Voted up and useful!

    • 2uesday profile image


      9 years ago

      I like your style of writing,thought provoking subject, thank you. it is always interesting to read what other Hubbers feel about hubscores etc. so this was well worth the read. Especially as I have seen some excellent writers hurt by scores.

      Once you know that the hubscore is not based on quality it is easier to 'detach' from being as interested or bothered by it. At one stage I found it annoying that my most popular hub was not one I would have picked.

    • hypnodude profile image


      9 years ago from Italy

      Voted up and useful, very useful. I don't like much scores, especially because, as you said, many times they do not at all reflect talent, but other things. And we all are affected when scores go down. :)


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