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Hubpages: How Do We Get Traffic Back? Here's How!

Updated on August 5, 2013
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How do we get back the traffic to Hubpages? That's the question on everybody's lips. Over the last few weeks Google has been once again dropping our Hubpage traffic. For some reason Hubpages seems to have dropped off the map. so why?

I did a bit of investigating.


First of all I took a look at a few video clips from Google + about how Google works.

Long story short, one of them stated that Google will only put two of each site on Google's front page. For example two Squidoo, two Hubpages and so on, so as not to overwhelm page one with a single site.

So on this assumption I took a look. And after throwing out some random titles that I made up on the spot, I found that none of the Hubs came up at all. Try it, you may not know the name of a certain hub but you can bet your doodahs that Hubpages is usually on page one or two.

Not any more. I searched and searched right down to about page 5 before I got a random Hub.

So, whats it all about?

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Is Google Being Picky?

Well that's my opinion. Like anything else in life and especially on the Internet, things change. And the new kids on the block are starting to take over.

Like a sinking ship we Hubbers and many more from other sites seem to be jumping ship. Okay we may not be leaving here, but we are all on the Bubblews band wagon.

And who can blame us? We all want to earn money, and Bubblews is a great way to get quick cash in an honest way.

But there's only one thing that leaves a sour taste for me.

I love Hubpages, and the people, and the crew, and the....well you get my point.

So, come on guys lets get this site back to the top. It's the best one out there.

I understand that we have always had the ups and downs when writing for the Internet. And Hubpages has always been one of the best sites on here.

I still believe that writing evergreen hubs is the way to go. Surely Google will realise that the short spammy sites are going to fade into oblivion pretty soon.

So the best way to write is to keep doing what we do. But maybe with a little tweak here and there it can recover much more quickly.


Check out 5.26mins. 'No more than a couple of pages of each site'

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First of all Adverts.

I have noticed a down slide ever since Hubpages have taken away our Ads.

Okay within 24 hours they are up and running, but I get the funny feeling that somewhere in hyperspace, behind the scenes or Google just having a grumble, this is messing the whole thing up.

Okay, it takes a few days for a hub to get 'placed' by Google. So why is it that since our Ads have to wait, our readers have slumped?

Apart from the fact it looks a darn mess without the Ads. Surely Hubpages knows by now who are the good writers and who are the scammers? We have been on here long enough.

In plain English, give us our Ads back. Please?


Tags and Keywords.

Doing my Sherlock Holmes bit around the site, I noticed that when my screen didn't download properly I could see behind the photos and articles. And guess what? yes.

Millions of Tags and keywords! Each and every article or photo had so many tags, (words that define the article) that in fact some of the articles were shorter than the hidden tags!

So why can't we have our tag boxes back? I know you told us that you do the tags, and now Google only goes by the keywords in the actual article, but if that's true,

WHY DOES ALL THE TOP ARTICLES HAVE HIDDEN TAGS BEHIND THEM?

One rule for them and one rule for us.

Layout.

If you look at another Site's layout, its totally different to ours. Yes they do sometimes have photos, and yes they do have lots of writing. But.....

It really all depends on what they are writing about.

I took a look at quite a few different Articles. Many of them just had writing, with a few links or Ads in between.

Obviously the Celeb Sites had loads of photos. This I believe is purely because the people who read about the celebs only want to read a little bit then look at the pictures.

The serious ones however, just had the facts. And that was all.

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How Many Words?

And last but not least, these days many people want a quick fix. Literally. They want the facts and that's it.

I think the days of very long articles are at an end. Don't get me wrong, I don't think we should just write a few paragraphs and that's it. But surely 500 to 700 hundred words will do it.

Hopefully our readers will come back. And even more to the point Google will stop pushing and pulling us all over the place.

Hubpages is worth the effort.

But maybe its time for a change of style.

(c) copyright Nell Rose

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      Nell Rose 2 years ago from England

      Thanks lets, I am still learning too! lol!

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      McKenna Meyers 2 years ago from Bend, OR

      Thanks for sharing what you discovered. There's a lot more to hubpages than I ever realized.

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      Nell Rose 2 years ago from England

      Thanks Vellur, glad you liked it, have a wonderful weekend!

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      Nithya Venkat 2 years ago from Dubai

      Great analysis and observations, you are so right long articles do not catch the attention of readers, they just do not have the patience to read it. As you say 400 -700 words are just enough. Getting tags back is a great idea!

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      Nell Rose 2 years ago from England

      Thanks pocono, lol! love your last idea! and yes you are totally right! thanks for the added info and help, have a great weekend.

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      John Fisher 2 years ago from Easton, Pennsylvania

      @Neil Rose et al: One way of getting some extra traffic is that when you write an article on HubPages, write another releveant article on EZine Articles and backlink it to your HubPage article in the resource box and always make sure when you write an article either place, you promote it on your social networks. Another way that seems to get some good response is to write an article that is contrary to most people's opinions and beliefs, because if you piss people off they will read your articles and comment on them.

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      Nell Rose 2 years ago from England

      Hi Peg, you maybe right there, mind you, fingers crossed mine has gone up, for how long is anybodies guess! lol! thanks for reading, nell

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      Gypsywillow 2 years ago

      I think you are correct Peg. No one has much spare time these days.

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      Peg Cole 2 years ago from Dallas, Texas

      Hi Nell, I think you're on to something here. We have lost traffic for sure. I remember when at the side of the page there was a boast of 50 million views daily. The staff has said they believe that even if it's not broken, they want to fix it. (In the recent blog on the new editing feature). That is a strange philosophy to me. It was working, now it's not. Perhaps it's that most readers want to read something quick and informative rather than lengthy and full of media clips and polls. Maybe not.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi Audrey, thanks so much, mind you its not helping me much at the moment, it must be the summer thing! lol!

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      Audrey Selig 3 years ago from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

      Hi Nell Once again you come through with an article filled with great ideas. Thanks for taking the time to research the material to share with us. We must get more articles on the first page once again. I know the summer is slow, but maybe we can make it better. Thanks for sharing. Pinning. Blessings, Audrey

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks DDE glad you liked it, nell

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      Devika Primić 3 years ago from Dubrovnik, Croatia

      You did a great job here in researching and letting us know the facts about Google and and about traffic at HP thank you

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi Shelley, thanks so much for reading, yes Google keep changing the posts so to speak! lol!

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      Shelley Watson 3 years ago

      Hi Nell, I have been told recently by someone who creates websites and writes professionally that Google no longer looks at keywords as it used to, but it's rather content that moves a site up the Google ladder. Thanks for taking the time to help everyone here, much appreciated.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi brakel, thanks so much for reading, yes you just get the idea right and they move the goal posts so to speak! lol! we can just keep on learning, and if that doesn't work, keep our fingers crossed that we come across that amazing keyword! lol!

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      Audrey Selig 3 years ago from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma

      Hi Nell. You did a lot of work for this article. I know traffic to writing sites is not what it used to be. The ones making the money have lots of expertise I have trouble finding a good keyword tool. Thank you for all the tips and for sharing this information. It sure is helpful. Blessings. Audrey. Sharing.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks Pocono, yes its one of those hit the jackpot moments, only we don't seem to get them! lol! but a hubber did a couple of weeks ago, so its possible!

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      John Fisher 3 years ago from Easton, Pennsylvania

      @Nell Rose-Thanks for the very informative Hub. I guess all of us are really searching for that magic bullet, but I will contiue to write on Hub pages until that day comes, and maybe, like many great discoveries, I will find it by accident. Here's hoping anyway. Great Hub. Voted Up.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks for reading Pro Hubber!

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      Pro-Hubber 3 years ago from Florida

      I feel like Google give more priority on indexing blogger hosted blogs. But if well optimized every pages and blogs will be indexed. The richer the content is the higher the chance of indexing, Well, this is an interesting and informative hub, Thank you

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi LadyFiddler, yes I love Hubpages, I also like earning from it, but my friends and community are much more important to me. I do write for Bubblews, but its not the same really, and yes I really only write there for the money, but I have read lots of hubbers posts there too so its getting quite good, but give up on hubs? never! lol!

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      Joanna Chandler 3 years ago from On planet Earth

      That's so true Nell i haven't came across any site as good as hubpages when it comes to writing and presentation . I write to express my emotions etc so i don't care to make money much, not saying that i won't. I've met too many lovely people here we are like a Family "the writers" . So where am i going ? I heard about bubblew i even joined but never went back ;(

      Take care :)

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks for the update heidithorne, I will go and take a look, nell

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      Heidi Thorne 3 years ago from Chicago Area

      For those readers who are not yet aware, early this fall Google launched a game changing update to their algorithm called "Hummingbird." It is a massive technological feat since it evaluates for "context" (semantic search). While keywords are still important, it is looking for how those words are being used as well. This update is still in the early stages. So it is likely that traffic on many, many websites in the world will experience traffic fluctuations. It is not a problem exclusive to HP.

      So, please, dear hubbers, if you're stressing about Google, redirect your energies into writing or updating your quality hubs. This Hummingbird update was designed to, eventually, weed out the junk content that litters the web. And this will take time.

      Here's more reading on the update: http://searchengineland.com/google-hummingbird-172...

      Honestly, I've been having pretty good traffic on some of my hubs lately. It also mirrors the traffic volume on one of my more popular blogs. So hang in there everyone!

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks informationshelte.

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      informationshelte 3 years ago

      Article length is an important factor to rank in the eyes of Google and other search engines, provided of course that the actual content is something worth reading.

      The optimum length of a specific article depends greatly on the subject. Articles containing as low as 300-400 words (not to say less in some cases) can do astonishingly well in terms of incoming organic traffic, compared to mega-posts that are completely irrelevant to anything and can be classified as typical cases of writing complete fluff.

      With more and more information uploaded daily on the World Wide Web, it doesn’t come as a surprise the fact that it becomes increasingly difficult to find virgin and poorly researched fields where you can offer your expertise to a global audience and get rewarded by Google with top position in relevant search results.

      I think key to that is freshness of content and how you handle it.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi Dee, sorry to hear you have been ill, and welcome back! glad you found it helpful, take care, nell

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      Dee aka Nonna 3 years ago

      Really happy I found this. I have been away for awhile due to illness. Trying to find my way back has not been easy and to learn about all the changes is a little overwhelming. Thanks for the info.....

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks JP, glad you liked it, nell

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      JPSO138 3 years ago from Cebu, Philippines, International

      You are certainly right about this one. I will surely apply what you have mentioned. Too long a hub is not good and to short is likewise the same. Great hub... Voted up for this one!

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks Vincent, I totally agree with you. the idea of easy money with Bubblews is so tempting, I am there for that reason too. I won't jump ship from here though I love it too much. I think a lot of writers really left because of all the new rules and so on, it stifles them, its such a shame, thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi mary, lol! sorry to hear you have problems, don't worry we will keep your posts pumping round the internet! lol!

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks Mary, yes me too! lol! I get carried away with the amount of words, sometimes it goes to 3,000! thanks for reading, nell

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      Vincent Moore 3 years ago

      I like many other creative writers never joined Hub Pages intending to get rich or for that matter make a dime, nor cared too. Meeting fellow writers and poets was my aim when I joined back in 2009 when we had plenty of talented writers sharing and communicating with one another. They were storytellers, poets, authors. Most of them have left, a few like myself leave a few pieces of their work here to share, as well I come in to visit and leave comments on certain writers works.

      Although I find most of the articles How to do this? copy and paste type of work, it does not amuse me. People are simply flooding this site with How Too's! In order for this site to get back to its roots, it needs the creative writers and poets back. The mix has to return to Hub Pages or it will decay and it's beginning to show that right now. Your hub proved that. Yes, many are flooding the airwaves over at Bubblews for a quick financial fix and when writers like Habee can claim to have received $500 in just a short period of time it draws even more there.

      Of course people will say they earn more at Bublews than at the Hubs and they would be correct, but for how long? Until they are going somewhere else chasing the dollar. I fully understand the need for money in these very turbulent financial times, especially in the USA. However if the Hubs and members who remain here want to see more traffic, then they HAVE TO GET BACK THE QUALITY MIX OF WRITERS they have lost in hoards. By doing this, the traffic will increase. I'm just saying, in this humble poets opinion. Thank you for producing this very informative and much needed hub dear Nell.

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      Mary Craig 3 years ago from New York

      Since I am very late coming to the party, I didn't even bring a gift ;) I did however, appreciate what you had to say.

      Of late I haven't been around much due to family issues. I started at Bubblews but have been there even less. I guess I'm not going to be a millionaire no matter how you look at it.

      Thanks for all the information and here's hoping thing's get better.

      Voted up, useful, and interesting.

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      Mary McShane 3 years ago from Fort Lauderdale, Florida

      Since I'm pretty wordy, I have to practice getting down to under 1000 words. lol Great hub, voted interesting and useful :)

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks so much mathira, glad you liked it, nell

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      mathira 3 years ago from chennai

      Nell,the information was very useful for me as I wondering at the drop in traffic for my hubs. Thank you for sharing.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks so much toknowinfo, glad you liked it, nell

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      toknowinfo 3 years ago

      Hi Nell,

      This is a well done and well thought out hub. Ahhh, the fickleness of the internet. I view it like a pendulum. I am hopeful things will swing back our way again. It is frustrating and seems unfair, but I have always been loyal to Hub Pages. I thank you for giving so much thought and investigation into what is going on.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi Greenhousewife, I think thats the problem, I have a couple who constantly stay at the top, but sadly the rest seem to float around the middle or even bottom, I think the magic that we find with one hub takes a lot of doing with another, sadly, thanks nell

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      Greenhousewife 3 years ago

      Hello Nell!

      My hubs have lost a lot of traffic, which isn't a huge deal to me since I just like being able to write when I have the time. That being said, my most popular hub on how to make Hot Totties, DOES show up on the first page of a google search. This has always been the case for this particular hub, which is why I think it will always be my most successful hub. I've done several other recipes, trying to feed off the success of that one, but nothing has had the same level of success.

      Ahh well, such is life. I'm working on several new pieces now so maybe, just maybe, one of these will jump that google hurdle! :)

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks Crystal, yes I know what you mean about Bubblews, I do like it, but it can never be Hubpages. I love it here, and hope that others will stay here too, its just a case of keep writing and hoping, thanks as always, nell

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      Crystal Tatum 3 years ago from Georgia

      Very interesting Nell. I believe HubPages is the best of its kind out there and it's a shame so many quality writers on here are losing traffic. I never got much in the first place, so I haven't been hit as hard as others. I joined Bubblews, but I just don't feel there's the same level of quality (to say the least) or camaraderie, and I've never been able to really get enthused about it. I hope HubPages holds on. I wonder if the staff is concerned enough or has manpower enough to really address this topic? Voting up and sharing.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks souvikm16, glad you liked it, nell

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      Souvik Mukherjee 3 years ago from Bangalore, India

      Great info. Yes! I would love to see the 'Tags' back on hubpages.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi Writer Fox, a while ago we on hubpages could write our own tag words, for example if you wrote about cooking a chicken your tags would be, chicken, cook, cook chicken etc. Now we have to rely on hubpages to do it for us, but other sites do stll use them, okay? thanks for reading, nell

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      Writer Fox 3 years ago from the wadi near the little river

      Interesting commentary on what is happening at HubPages. I don't quite understand what you mean by "hidden tags." Where are they exactly and are they links?

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Thanks Wiccan, glad you found it helpful, nell

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      Mackenzie Sage Wright 3 years ago

      Thanks, good advice and some things to think about for a relative newbie here.

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      May Galnou 3 years ago from Melbourne, Australia

      Thanks Nell, I had a look at Billybuc's hub. Certainly explained it well. I might give it a go one day. Hubpages is so much nicer though in terms of layout and professional appearance!

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      So true cfin, sadly thats the problem with writing for the internet. I do try to write on other sites too, and as long as we can earn I will keep writing here. thanks so much for reading, nell

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      cfin 3 years ago from The World we live in

      The natural rhythm of things would indicate that as the internet grows in age, so will the number of articles on it. As this dilution occurs, and more sites come online just like hubpages, we will see less and less traffic and become less and less significant.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi Lizzy, yes it can be so darn frustrating, I only tend to write a new hub every couple of weeks now, I really should get back to writing but such a lot is going on with my house, hope your husband is okay? and thanks for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Sorry May, seems the link never took! here it is again:

      https://hubpages.com/community/Battle-Royal-Bubble...

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      Liz Elias 3 years ago from Oakley, CA

      Good article--I'm bookmarking it for future reference.....right now, I'm not even writing much anymore, as my time is occupied caring for my husband, and I just don't have any leftover brain power for trying to suss out what "the Big G" is up to...

      It is, indeed, frustrating beyond words to have to keep tweaking things....and I've about reached my frustration tolerance limit....

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      There you go MayG, here's billys's link. If you don't find what you are looking for on it, just go to google search and put in 'Bubblews Hubpages, it should bring up another one, okay? in a nutshell Bubblews is so simple, you write what you want, and as long as you read other peoples and like etc, you will earn money, simple as that okay? good luck, nell

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      May Galnou 3 years ago from Melbourne, Australia

      Thanks Nell, I thought I did a search on hubpages and came up with nothing! I'll look again!! May.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi MayG, there are loads of hubs recently about Bubblews, I think billybuc wrote one, so come and join us! lol! and thanks for reading, nell

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      May Galnou 3 years ago from Melbourne, Australia

      Thanks Nell Rose. I was happy to read this article, since now I realise that it's not just traffic to my hubs that has dropped off!! Would anyone be interested in writing a hub on Bubblews since so many people seem to be using it? Would love to understand how it works! Thanks.

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      Nell Rose 3 years ago from England

      Hi Dolores, yes I agree with you, I get quite disappointed when I am looking something up and its about three darn lines long! we need the info, and that can only come in a long article, thanks so much for reading, nell

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      Dolores Monet 3 years ago from East Coast, United States

      Nell, I agree with you that those short choppy sites seem to pop up all too often. With the question being, is that what people really want? Not me! I want to read an in depth article with information and some helpful images - just what we do here at HP.

      So many people are looking up info on those little small screen devices. So a large article may be too much. But I figure that if I like longer, magazine type articles, others will too. There is hope!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi lyric, good to see you, yes me too, it was free and easy, and I think the main problem is that we all have our own individual style of writing, but with all the new 'lock and key' style, we are losing our own personalities, and thats what I believe is making us sink, thanks as always, nell

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      Richard Ricky Hale 4 years ago from West Virginia

      Nell, well done my friend. My website has tanked and I've seen the same results. Your spot on with your investigation. I truly believe we may be better writing for our own domain. I use to rank for keywords, had over 150 first page rankings, and now they are all gone. If I'm lucky, I get a second page ranking. We see a lot of changes at Hubpages and not all of them are better. If it's not broken, why fix it? I liked the page format of years ago, about a 1 1/2 ago to be actual. It sucks, what can I say. Well done though Nell, voted up, useful, awesome, interesting, and shared.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      LOL! thanks Dream on, I will ask my cat if he is single, I am sure he will love your cat, she must be purrrrr fect! haha!

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      DREAM ON 4 years ago

      P.s. My cat Charlette thinks your cat is cute.Is he single?Great pic.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Dream On, lol! I will never be as good as our billy, but thank you! Its great to see you, and I do agree with you it does take time to write and then comment and find out things and....lol! thanks as always, nell

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      DREAM ON 4 years ago

      Between you and billybuc you both have the HubPage community following your every lead.Always searching and getting answers.Wishing you both well and seeing where the future lies.I am just enjoying the ride.Getting to know so many hubbers is all I have time for and trying to write a story is more than I can imagine.Thanx for all your comments and so proud to be another friendly hubber writing for the love of writing and that's my reward.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi skye! Aw thanks so much! its great to see you back! I just get on my sherlock holmes hat and pipe and off I go! lol! made me smile, so thank you!

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      skye2day 4 years ago from Rocky Mountains

      nell rose sister you are such a grand inspector gadget. I love that you have taken the time to investigate. You know I was wondering what the heck. Although I have not published anything in a couple of months things took a slide down on my site. My hub number went down ok I can deal with that. Get to writing. I feel so much better knowing I am not a lone ranger here. Many have come and gone but God always keeps a remnant. There is nothing that is impossible with God. He can and will help this site to get on its feet for His Glory and Good purpose.

      Nell you are a sweetie pie. Thanks for supporting us writers and investigating.

      I love you girl. Keep going nell rose. Keep going. ( Phil 4:13) God is going to smile favor on your situation. He already has you just need to believe and recieve. We cannot but HE can. He has the best for you planned. He really does. He knows what He does. I just know it in my heart. He works all things for the good for those that love Him. Your sister in Christ. Sending hugs your way, Skye

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Barbara, yes I am at Bubblews too! I am under the name nellrose, all in one word, I will see you there! lol! thanks.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi pstraubie, thanks for reading, I do earn a bit on here and yes it does help with the bills sometimes, but I love just writing and meeting people too, thanks as always, and Angels back at ya too! lol!

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      Patricia Scott 4 years ago from sunny Florida

      Interesting, Nell Rose.

      I don't really pay too much attention to the traffic. I do check it periodically but this is not my source of income (which is a good thing because I would not have a roof over my head if it were). I write mainly because I love to write and like you, I have grown fond of so many people here on HubPages and look forward to reading their writings and learning new things.

      Your article is filled with much food for thought, Nell. thank you for sharing. Angels are on the way to you this morning. ps

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      Barbara Badder 4 years ago from USA

      Take a scroll down your page to the comment section. First you see a Google ad and then related searches, and then a long list of Related Hubs. On the sidebar are still another group of Related Searches. This is just when you are finished with the hub. There are so many more ads at the top and bottom of the page. None of this can sit well with Google.

      It is almost overwhelming for the reader. There is nothing we can do. Hubpages has remove some of this junk off our pages.

      I've been doing a little writing at Bubblews too. Do you have the same user name over there? I'll connect with you.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Rose, yes me too, I think to write a long article it has to have a lot of background, history and so on, otherwise it does get written over and over again, I will have to look out for something new and fascinating I think! lol! thanks as always, nell

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      Rosemary Sadler 4 years ago from Hawkes Bay - NewZealand

      Great article, helpful to us writers and should be to HP if they will listen. Lol

      I agree with you about the length of text. Quite often the same thing (explanation or whatever) will be repeated two or three times through an article, I'm sure a lot of this is done just to stretch out the word count but I find it tedius to read.

      You have done a lot of research into this and it is appreciated. Thank you

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Carter, yes the long ones are really good but people these days do read the shorter ones, I love reading the longer ones though as I get more info, but maybe thats cos I am an oldy! lol! thanks for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Pamela, thanks for reading, yes I do think a lot of us try to keep going on here, but we really should try to write elsewhere too, especially if we want to earn some money, sadly. Thanks.

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      Carter06 4 years ago

      Great article Nell.. I agree that the length of an article should be reconsidered I personally won't read anything too long(who has the time?) & in this day & age with so much info on the net it's gotta be short & sweet to attract attention surely!! Cheers

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      Pamela Oglesby 4 years ago from United States

      I think your detective work is probably right on. I do freelance writing for some extra cash, and I have started submiting some magazine articles also. I still love the people on Hubpages and it would seem some changes could be made to pick up our traffic. Awesome hub!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks nicomp, you have some great points there. And we poor minions will never ever understand their thinking. I suppose the thing to do is just keep writing because we love it, and hopefully one of these days Google will appreciate us! lol!

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      nicomp really 4 years ago from Ohio, USA

      You must listen very critically to anything Matt Cutts says in a video. He's the ultimate politician. Almost everything that comes out of his mouth is prefaced with "usually" or "mostly" or "generally."

      Google is not going to reveal their strategy to publishers: all they have is their secrecy. Without their deep dark unpublished algorithms they are just another Bing.

      Wikipedia is a great example. Pick a popular keyword and Google it: the number one result is nauseatingly predictable. Why is that? Wikipedia is a pirate site with more copyright violations than any torrent. The writing is inconsistent and often biased. Yet somehow the site pops up all too frequently at the top of Google search results. Ask Matt to 'splain that.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks Anne, yes thank you, I hope its all cleared up now, fed up of feeling horrible this week! have a great weekend, nell

      Hi Deb, thats great news! just goes to show that if we center on something near to us in location then it definitely has value, be over in a sec to read, I love your Boomer Lake hubs, so I can see why.

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      Deb Hirt 4 years ago from Stillwater, OK

      I have to agree with the shorter hubs, too. After all, we were told how short our attenti0on span was. When I read something, though, I read from start to finish, as many will attest to, right down to spelling errors. Try this: original material that nobody has up. Life at Boomer Lake is going through the roof with views. I know that a good part of it is the pictures, which is why I think the blog is out of sight.

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      Anne 4 years ago from Spain

      Hi Nell.

      Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge yet again.

      Hope you are feeling much better now my friend. Take care :)

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi travmaj, lol! thanks, I do know what you mean, yes we keep on plodding on on here, but I still think its worth it, thanks as always, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi mamatita, thanks for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Sorry anne, not been well so stayed off here for a couple of days. The captions are easy to do and free! you can either use your own photos or go to public domain. When you found one you want to use, save it to your gallery, then go to roflbots site, and just follow the instructions, easy peasy! lol! thanks as always.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi My Mind, thanks so much for reading, nell

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      Victoria 4 years ago from Long Island N.Y

      Thanks, awesome hub and I personally definitely appreciated this!

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      Anne 4 years ago from Spain

      Hi Nell.

      I just Google´d swollen ankles heat to see if my former page 1 number 1 hub on that topic came up and it didn´t since HP pulled it for unrelated products or links ( in my view nothing was unrelated at all but there you go) Even when I put the correct title of the hub in, it still didn´t appear and I see that it was all e.how, netdoctor, wikipedia and those type of sites which did appear, so you are most definitely on to something askew here.

      I was right in my assumption that after being unpublished briefly that this top hub is now doing virtually nothing and I am lucky to get 30 views in total per day from everything I have published. Just when I thought I was at long last heading to a 3 monthly payment and hoping to make it a monthly occurrence my hopes have been dashed and its very discouraging. One can only continue flogging a dead horse for so long, and despite everyone´s efforts including yours to keep spirits up and encourage us all to keep writing and wait and see, I am less than inspired at this low point in my fledgling career I have to admit.

      I daresay I will at some point get going again when I have more time for writing, but with one disappointment after yet another change from Google or HP there´s little wonder that so many of those I follow are no longer bothering to put finger to keyboard.

      By the way Nell, as always a great hub and I do love your pictures and captions, they are always fantastic and really eye catching. Wish I could find half the sites you get them from, and want to ask do you actually pay for pics or are they all from freebie sites ?

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      manatita44 4 years ago from london

      Interesting. Good that you are doing this. I do not understand how it works. So thanks again.

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      travmaj 4 years ago from australia

      Hi Nell Rose - well done and I hope your hard work is heeded. I totally agree with Annie (Bac2basics) I'm getting nowhere fast. Admittedly, I've been away, and a little slack - but even so I can see the difference - in attitude also.

      Anyway, I'll think it over and see what transpires - thinking of the old adage 'A change is as good as a rest.' Thank you for all your investigative efforts and theories and may things turn around.I guess I'll plod on for a while. Best wishes Nell Rose...

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Thanks kitty, yep, connected too! thanks, lol! we all seem to be taking over!

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      Nicole Canfield 4 years ago from the Ether

      Hey I found you there! I "connected" with you. I haven't written anything yet but I'm working on it. Also, Yes...I was able to get in tonight (9:00 pm here on the East Coast of U.S.).

      Blessings.

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi kitty, can you get in over there? it always breaks down, so I am having trouble trying to get back in, it always happens at bubblews! lol! I am just under the same name but its together like this:

      nellrose

      okay? see you when it works alright, fingers crossed! I only wanted to check my bank at the moment over there, but no luck! lol!

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      Nicole Canfield 4 years ago from the Ether

      Nell - I have joined Bubblews...but now I am LOST...and I can't find your username anywhere. :( Help me, from one hubber friend to another!

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi Claudia, I am sorry to hear that, yes I do believe the tags really did help, maybe I am wrong but other sites do use them, thanks for reading, nell

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      Nell Rose 4 years ago from England

      Hi kitty, mine is going back up slightly, I have got two payments from Bubblews, its great for short pieces, and doesn't take five minutes. the only thing is that to earn we have to read copious amounts of others stuff to make it fair and then they read ours which brings the clicks, so far so good, most of us are over there as we speak! lol! sometimes it goes down for long periods thats the only problem, thanks as always, nell