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Idle hubs is an issue on Hubpages and one writer tells his tale - Bard of Ely

Updated on November 21, 2012

This is Bard's hub he wrote, and it was thought provoking indeed

What not to write about at HubPages if you don’t want your hubs to be Idle
What not to write about at HubPages if you don’t want your hubs to be Idle | Source

It hard working dedication to be successful at hub writing today


Hub Response to Bard of Ely

This was an exceptionally useful hub here Bard of Ely as you pointed out both sides of the equation to Idle hubs, and how folks have reacted. His hub is titled "What not to write about at HubPages if you don’t want your hubs to be Idle".

I like your perspective on it all, one thing though for me is I like the Idle hubs thingy, because I have noticed much of my hubs simply had halted in traffic views which most of them do and long before the new updates to hubpages had arrived or that of Google's search engine updates. This is especially so for that of my poems here on hubpages, because they have the worst traffic views, so I agree with you on that premise in your hub for sure.

You stated that poetry on hubpages will get idled and yes indeed all of mine are, I had originally planned on using hubpages as a launching platform to get my poems known worldwide, and then in the future after their traffic died out I would move them to Blogger (Google's blogging platform).

I never meant to keep poems here on such a professional writers platform & even though it feels cool to publish them, mainly because I see how the traffic views have swayed, and eventually I will create a social network for poets worldwide so these cool poems could flourish, and be loved for what they truly are worth.

Awesome job with this hub, you truly are a great writer bro, I wish you didn't have to move your hubs that got idled anywhere, but if you must then so be it.

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Thoughts to ponder on for fellow hubbers

Dealing with Idle hubs has motivated me to become a much better editor of my digital works, and so I have been spending a great deal of time and effort proof reading, correcting errors I didn't notice all throughout my hub writing, and even poorly positioned content, image selections and all.

This is the reason why I love this new hubpages idle hubs control system, which penalizes poorly written hubs, or poorly formatted hubs, or hubs that haven't been performing well at all. I propose that if anyone chooses to publish a hub, and any specific type of hub for that matter in whatever given subject. First make sure that it will be written in such a way to comply with all of the hubpages terms of use.

Second think about creating a powerful web resource of a hub page (Look at how major news websites configure their web page content, imagery, and text, also learn from the higher scoring hubs and veteran hubbers here), because this is what is truly valuable on the web today. Make sure that it features a video of true relevance to that of the subject matter in the title of the hub, think about what your viewers are searching for daily, and what may excite them to try watching the video, and or visualize via the images you've selected.

Give your hub articles some true purpose, meaning don't just fill up the text space so to satisfy the amount of words to publish a hub. Make sure you have clearly defined what it is your hub is about, show people ways to get around the hubpages network here by using internal links (links capsule) that can be navigated to other hubs, this will ensure that your hubs will be located, as well as your fellow hubbers hubs over time.

When web traffic dies down, we all can help lift each others hubs up, if we all practice this wiser method of linking hubs, using the links capsule, this is also known as "Hub Karma". Once everything is done properly, your hubs shall gain much more notoriety over time, mainly due to it now being much more resourceful, and it won't matter much if it is outdated subject matter if your hubs quality of content and relevance is overall superbly well put together.

A Southern Live Oak in winter.
A Southern Live Oak in winter. | Source

Evergreen versus Seasonal Hubs

One thing to consider is the fact of seasonal hubs, and that of evergreen hubs. Seasonal hubs will generally get the idle hub sign against them, because naturally they will not be able to pick up much web traffic until the subject matter comes back in season, and during per say the Christmas Holiday time.

However if such hubs are placed asleep, which was once symbolized by the three Z's icon on your hubpages my account area, but was recently changed to a blank space. Those hubs with a H symbol are the only one's that are getting featured and search engine traffic now. Now, once your hub dies down with traffic, the benefit becomes in favor of the hubpages sub-domain owner, where in fact if such low web traffic isn't being indexed by the search engine during unseasonal times it shall not affect the users overall web statistics for those particular hubs.

This is a definite benefit, and all they will need to do is tweak such a hub like a 1-2 month period or so prior; by maybe changing an image, adding a more up to date video, and by hitting that infamous publish button, and walla its back in action if everything else has already met the hubpages standards of excellence, and high quality hubs.

Evergreen hubs actually are those hubs that are written in such a way, and using the keywords in the titling of such a hub, which deems it a universal use for those online seeking such relevant information.

This type of article shall pore in the views, with subjects such as food recipes, review articles, DIY, useful tutorials on anything, arts and crafts, and loads more subjects of usefulness to that of global viewers.

Once your high quality content is put together properly, and to that of the "Stellar Hub" levels of acceptance here at hubpages. Your article shall be off to the online races of potentially gaining higher and higher web traffic all year round, and for some hub authors even when the search engines are getting updated, like what happened recently with the Google Panda 3.0 update.

Learning about Hub Karma will make or break a hub article

Using relevant images and up to date ones works wonders

Happy Holidays folks, make sure to get those Christmas hubs out ASAP, before December comes, as well as update them old ones that are idle right now more then likely, oh and get back into sharing them once after re-publishing
Happy Holidays folks, make sure to get those Christmas hubs out ASAP, before December comes, as well as update them old ones that are idle right now more then likely, oh and get back into sharing them once after re-publishing | Source

Things to take notice of that can and will help hubbers

Grouping your hubs works wonders, writing an effective hub summary does as well, and last but not least, sharing your hubs with others, commenting on peoples hubs, answering and asking questions, and participating in the forums makes all the difference for many hubbers here.

Everything you do must be sincere though, or the hubpages systems of automated detections will instantly render your account here a much lower hubber score. The hubpages algorithm is designed to counter any malicious activity, and anomalies that exist, plus your fellow hubbers can tell when a hubber is out of line, and performing the wrong things here.

We all are highly trained hubbing experts to tell such things, as many of us are responsive by using flagging buttons, and thumbs down arrows to help weed out malicious and inappropraite activities here.

So be advised if your here to do the wrong thing, it isn't advisable, and it will render your hub traffic to the lowest possible levels, or worse your account here may be deleted by the hubpages staff if any hub violations of any kind is to show up uncorrected. Note: (Learn about moderation help topics in the HP learning center - link provided below)

On the positive note, if you learn to master the hub hoppers suggestive details as to how a hub should appear to that of the online viewers to hubpages, well your definitely on your way to the top of hubpages, plus make sure not to bypass the tips in the Hubpages Learning center, and much of it all is required reading as well, if you are to expect to get your hub traffic moving at all. Good luck! and keep hubbing folks!!

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    • CloudExplorer profile imageAUTHOR

      Mike Pugh 

      6 years ago from New York City

      @mary615, yes indeed a huge investment in time, that many people cannot do, but thanks to my lovely wife and my family whom are helping me making through things and all, this has been possible since I am able to work from home and have no children of my own.

      Thanks again for the inquiry into it all and for sharing with me.

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      Mary Hyatt 

      6 years ago from Florida

      I'm happy to learn your Hubs are no longer idled. Sounds like it took a lot of time and effort on your part, but it is paying off!

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      Mike Pugh 

      6 years ago from New York City

      Hey here @mary615, well I have managed to figure out ways to get around the whole idling issues, and all it takes is some good high maintenance as well as intense editing of your articles, and any article that gets upgraded in terms of content, Google likes pretty much.

      So all of my 100+ hubpages community articles are doing well today, even if the traffic is slow with them, they aren't getting idled any longer though.

      Thanks for the inquiry, but it has been also a self sacrifice to help all of my fellow hubbers in this way, and earning massive traffic or monies wasn't the only goal I decided to achieve you know. Also thanks for the cool insightful comment and for sharing.

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      Mary Hyatt 

      6 years ago from Florida

      I have NO problem with the idle thing. I only had one and it as my silly little poem to my fellow Hubbers. I can see why it is idled. Google won't search for Hubs about Hubbers. I just wonder if this Hub will be idled???

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      Mike Pugh 

      6 years ago from New York City

      Thanks @Millionaire Tips, thanks for rating my hub and all it is tough for us writers to see what is needed to be done and all to improve our online success, and so I try my best to share much of the research I do on it all.

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      Shasta Matova 

      6 years ago from USA

      This is great information on how to write a hub that will avoid getting idled. Writing about popular topics that will be evergreen is the key. Voted up.

    • CloudExplorer profile imageAUTHOR

      Mike Pugh 

      6 years ago from New York City

      @suziecat7, thank you so much for that kind comment up there, Yeah I think Bard is a cool dude too for writing his hub that inspired this one, I don't totally enjoy the Idle thingy, but am doing my best to use it to my benefit for sure.

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      6 years ago from Asheville, NC

      The "idle Hub" practice has made me take the time to really look at my work and revitalize. Still, there is one Hub that remains asleep even though I have worked at it several times and it frustrates me. Great Hub by you and the Bard.

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      Mike Pugh 

      6 years ago from New York City

      Your very much welcome MsDora, I did my best to respond clearly, and fairly to our fellow hubber Bard of Ely.

      Idle hubs are a tough thing indeed to swallow either way we look at it, but it definitely helps us hubbers to detect what we haven't done correctly here as a writer for sure, and no matter whom we may believe we are, nor that of what we think ourselves of the overall quality of a single article or multiples.

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      Dora Weithers 

      6 years ago from The Caribbean

      Thanks for sharing your perspective and that of the Bard on Idle Hubs. The zzzs help and so do your ideas.

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      Mike Pugh 

      6 years ago from New York City

      @billybuc, Hey Bill thank bro you get to my hubs super fast, Hehe, I should have known you would of made it here already, yikes your fast.

      Yeah this idle hubs thingy is tough for many veteran hubbers, but for us newbies it seems quite alright I guess, since we got owned into the newer updates as time progressed for us all you know, and I actually love the ideas that the hubpages staff are coming up with, and its quite impressive to me actually.

      I'm so happy they are helping us, by putting the pressure on, it has made me a much better web editor for sure, and I believe I shall succeed in the end, and will take all those with me whom are ready to succeed as well, just as both of us are doing as good friends and digi-pals.

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      Mike Pugh 

      6 years ago from New York City

      Hey there @xstatic, thanks bro for stopping by, yeah that Bard is a cool dude for sure, and ever since I located him on hubpages I noticed his activity on the Forum area, and now his recent idle hub rant of sorts, but it was truly informative for such, and a must for newbies to learn from, and so the inspiration for me to spread the word for him.

      I figured as well, I might add a tad bit of the methods I learned to follow here as a newer hubber myself, and why not help everyone much more in the process right!

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      Bill Holland 

      6 years ago from Olympia, WA

      As usual very informative and helpful. Honestly, almost all of my idle hubs are the ones I write for Hubbers Who Have Supported Me...not much I can do about them, and that's fine with me. I wrote them as a thank you to Hubbers and not to make money off of. Besides, I think the little zzzz symbol is cool. :)

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      Jim Higgins 

      6 years ago from Eugene, Oregon

      I read it and it is good to know that fantasy is alive and well. This is an interesting take on the "idle" controversy however. I had several idled hubs, took some advice and changed some images and things and they came to life again, even poetry.


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